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Banzee
Targeted Aggression
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Posted - 2011.08.12 06:07:00 -
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Hi guys!
Just looking for some form of additional income as my Hurricane naughtily shot a pod so I've locked myself out of High sec
How "safe" - yeah, odd word in this galaxy - can you be if you probe out wh's up to class 3 and run them in something like a Tengu?
Obviously I'm going to be clicking that D-scan button until my fingers are sore, and checking the WH for other people before I go in, and possibly watching the entrance I came in from. But what other tactics can I use to try and ensure my investment does not go *poof* when running sites?
Just looking for some advice and possible fittings! I haven't the isk for trial and error.
Also note that I have had experience raiding some class 1's in a drake, will it be much different from that?
Thanks in advance!
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Yosarian Lives
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Posted - 2011.08.12 06:39:00 -
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Edited by: Yosarian Lives on 12/08/2011 06:41:41 Edited by: Yosarian Lives on 12/08/2011 06:41:11
Clicking D-scan doesn't keep you very safe if you plan to run anoms. You can perform a on-board ship scan that is effective out to 14 au while cloaked. So if you're running anoms, 30 people can drop on you without having a single probe out or uncloaking. If you're ruinning signatures than you are much safer as they cannot find you without probes, so just keep d-scan up for probes if your doing such.
Before you run a site you need:
1.) have all signatures scanned out to ensure you have every possible entrance/exit logged (to know what you need to watch). 2.) have an alt 100 km off this wh with "look to/at" on the wormhole. Preferably have this on a monitor dedicated to your alt so you can see easily if there is a wormhole activation (it makes a funny noise/sound). 3.) on said alt, have probe(s) out that cover the entire system (au wise) rescaning for a new signature if it pops up to ensure you don't get dropped on by a wormhole that is newly opened. If you pick up a new sig, warp to a safe untikl you get it sorted.
As far as fittings go:
I am not sure if you can solo c3 wormholes anymore with a tradition active or passive tank. The sleepers neut HARD now and you will run out of cap relatively fast. When my corp does it, we have spider tanking tengus because the sleepers only neut who is primary target.
With wormholes that have a static connection: you can close this wormhole and another will immediately spawn, BUT it doesnt actually open an exit to whatever system until it is warped to. This is why you need to be vigilant in scaning for new signatures as it wil likely be a new wh with someone poking around.
Do this and you will be relatively safe. And yes, keep hitting the d-scan just in case. Good luck.
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Banzee
Targeted Aggression
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Posted - 2011.08.12 10:49:00 -
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It didn't occur to me the danger due to increased on board scanner range of running an anomaly like that, will bear that in mind if I can't find many sigs to run.
I have taken note of the tactics and will make sure to follow them, I'm assuming keep aligned to a safe as well due to advantage missiles give me in range.
I need to find an efficient way of bringing some salvaging boat in as well, the alt may have that job.
Okay if the neuting is a bit mad in C3's, would 2x spider tanking Tengus be able to deal with that? Or stick to C1 + C2 wormholes. Orrrr a passive Nighthawk?
That's about all I need to know after these questions, cheers for the ace reply.
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Yosarian Lives
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Posted - 2011.08.12 11:09:00 -
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Edited by: Yosarian Lives on 12/08/2011 11:09:32 Two spider tanking tengu's will definately work as long as both tengues are cap stable as the battleships only neut the primary target so 1 person is morethan likely not going to be neuted (in anoms). As for solo fit:
[Tengu, Solo c3] Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Gravitational Capacitor Tengu Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
6x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)
2x Cap Recharger II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Photon Scattering Field Gist X-Type Large Shield Booster Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Ballistic Control System II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I 2x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
This is supposedly sufficient for solo anoms but I have not personally tested it.
OR cheaper fit (150 less dps, more tank):
[Tengu, solo c3 ()cheaper(] Tengu Defensive - Amplification Node Tengu Electronics - CPU Efficiency Gate Tengu Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Tengu Offensive - Accelerated Ejection Bay Tengu Propulsion - Intercalated Nanofibers
5x Heavy Missile Launcher II (Scourge Fury Heavy Missile)
2x Invulnerability Field II 2x Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier Magnetic Scattering Amplifier II Gist B-Type Large Shield Booster
4x Ballistic Control System II Capacitor Flux Coil II
3x Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Arazel Chainfire
The Awakened Armada Apex United
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:25:00 -
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A tengu with the cap regen matrix subsystem, and 2 cap flux coils, and 3 CCC 1's has enough cap to run a large shield booster, 1 photon hardener, and 2 invulns, and with a full t2 fit provides enough tank and cap to run any c3 anomaly. The only thing I haven't tested it under is the duel neuting on some of the radar sites.
Another ship that can manage it is a fully passive nighthawk, with 2 passive EM and 1 passive explosive hardeners, with 2 large shield extenders, 2 rigs, and 4 shield power relays. It could probably do it with 3, maybe even 2 SPR's, but I haven't tried it with those setups yet.
As for safe... your only safety is no one else being there, and it is very easy to close in on someone running anoms with a cloaky gank ship like a pilgrim or a proteus. However, due to how few people are in WH's, you do still have a really good chance of finding some empty ones to clear out.
-Arazel
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Yosarian Lives
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Posted - 2011.08.12 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Arazel Chainfire A tengu with the cap regen matrix subsystem, and 2 cap flux coils, and 3 CCC 1's has enough cap to run a large shield booster, 1 photon hardener, and 2 invulns, and with a full t2 fit provides enough tank and cap to run any c3 anomaly. The only thing I haven't tested it under is the duel neuting on some of the radar sites.
Another ship that can manage it is a fully passive nighthawk, with 2 passive EM and 1 passive explosive hardeners, with 2 large shield extenders, 2 rigs, and 4 shield power relays. It could probably do it with 3, maybe even 2 SPR's, but I haven't tried it with those setups yet.
As for safe... your only safety is no one else being there, and it is very easy to close in on someone running anoms with a cloaky gank ship like a pilgrim or a proteus. However, due to how few people are in WH's, you do still have a really good chance of finding some empty ones to clear out.
-Arazel
what about 1 capacitor flux coil and instead of a active em hardener, a passive one.
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Banzee
Targeted Aggression
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Posted - 2011.08.12 18:14:00 -
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I bet very heavily on wormholes being empty!
Okay so I have 3 main setups to try, the solo heavy cap regen Tengu, 2x RR Tengus and a Nighthawk for class 3's. Sounds good to me. After I move to my new home in lowsec I'll give them all a go, can't wait
I think I may have to try some roams in a wormhole myself to properly understand mechanics / the abilities of platypus attacks etc.
If I like it that much may even put a pos there, who knows...
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Garak Jakobs
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Posted - 2011.08.14 23:03:00 -
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Tengu will solo all c3s apart from 1 of the 2 radars. The very last spawn with 2 nueting BS 2 neuting cruisers and 2 nueting frigates is a little crazy.
However I am in a wolf rayet so....maybe a different hole would be easier :)
Magnos are do-able with ease.
However use heavys and not hams, T2 missiles is a must for good dps.
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Arazel Chainfire
The Awakened Armada Apex United
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Posted - 2011.08.15 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Yosarian Lives
Originally by: Arazel Chainfire
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what about 1 capacitor flux coil and instead of a active em hardener, a passive one.
You could actually drop the cap flux coil and still be cap stable. However, then you have some worries about cap under heavy neuting in the radar sites. I have a character who has 4/4 cap skills with that fit who can survive 2 BS's ok but under one of the radar's (don't remember which one) can cap it out, but we had 3 tengu's and a nighthawk in site and it wasn't really a problem with that group, but could prove to be one if you are solo.
-Arazel
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Malkev
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Posted - 2011.08.15 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Yosarian Lives You can perform a on-board ship scan that is effective out to 14 au while cloaked.
On-board scanner is effective to 64au.
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Kro0k
Gallente EVE Evacuation
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Posted - 2011.08.15 14:21:00 -
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I would just stick to radar sites in C1 and C2s. Pleeeenty of sleepers in those |
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