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TehRoot
Minmatar Intaki Armaments Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.08.12 12:28:00 -
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Well it's finally happened. The ponzi scheme that was phaser inc is finally dead. You can check it out on the website. Over 1 trillion stolen in ISK, very funny.
http://www.phaserinc.com/index.html
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minerelite
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Posted - 2011.08.12 12:37:00 -
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well thats 150mil ISK gone.
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:27:00 -
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protip they did not get 1 trillion isk .
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Miss Rabblt
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:33:00 -
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one more alt for trolling? how much you payd for it?
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Nex apparatu5
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Posted - 2011.08.12 13:49:00 -
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I'd say they got a couple billion, but 1 trillion?
I'd need to see screenshots to believe that.
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Fulbert
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.12 16:38:00 -
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5% interest per week and it's been a ponzi since the beginning? Unbelievable :) ____________________________________ Fulbert Industrialist - Casual Trader EVE Online, the best browser MMO of them all |
Belanna Jayde
Caldari Merridion Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.12 16:58:00 -
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This is a tragic loss for the EVE community...
I'm going to start up a new investment firm for the player base so they can go right on investing.
Secure Commodities and Materials (the SCaM) will open its doors as soon as I can "secure" at least 10 Billion ISK for start-up costs - not sure what I should offer as a return on the investment, so I'll just offer 50% per month, sound fair, right?
EVE mail me in game, I'll "promise" to get back to you in a timely manner...
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Gnulpie
Minmatar Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.08.12 17:30:00 -
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Big grats to Eddie and his team.
It takes quite some effort to pull this scheme through for that many months.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.08.12 18:16:00 -
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Details: (no easy linky sorry) http://www.evenews24.com/2011/08/12/one-of-the-biggest-scam-in-eve-history-ponzi-scheme-empties-over-1-trillion-isk-from-players-wallets/
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trance atlas
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Posted - 2011.08.12 20:01:00 -
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so im going to make a website that claims i scammed 5 trillion and do **** posting for a couple months and people will believe it (already got **** poasting d0wn)
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Borkers
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:47:00 -
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It took them 8 months and 2 accounts to raise 1T ISK? And now their toons are essentially persona au gratin. They would have been better off actually trading, even without investors.
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Llyandrian
Amarr Livestock Science Exchange
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Posted - 2011.08.13 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: trance atlas protip they did not get 1 trillion isk .
this++;
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Tygre Sunji
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Posted - 2011.08.13 03:15:00 -
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I invested 100mil, or rather I tried to. I created my account and sent them the 100mil, but my account wasn't created. My ISK was returned on the 11th, the day before they closed shop.
Anyone want to buy some scorched horseshoes? real cheap, they may not have any luck left in them.
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Tekota
The Freighter Factory
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Posted - 2011.08.13 03:29:00 -
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Originally by: Borkers It took them 8 months and 2 accounts to raise 1T ISK? And now their toons are essentially persona au gratin. They would have been better off actually trading, even without investors.
Covered in breadcrumbs?
Think you might mean "persona non grata" there :o)
But as for "better off actually trading" - assuming the 1T is correct, which you seem to be accepting within that statement, I personally certainly can't make 1 trillion in eight months by trading. I'm not sure I know anyone else who can either. That's over 4.1b profit per day every single day for eight months.
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I likegirls
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.13 05:59:00 -
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They could have probably easily scammed billions more just by not making payments for a couple of weeks with some bull **** excuse that they were on vacation or something. <3 |
Siigari Kitawa
Gallente Perditus Peregrinus
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Posted - 2011.08.13 06:09:00 -
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lol
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Cyaxares II
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Posted - 2011.08.13 08:08:00 -
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Edited by: Cyaxares II on 13/08/2011 08:11:19
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am Cyaxares II, Investigator in Chief of the New Eden Antifraud Agency (NEAA). We are currently running an investigation on the "Phaser Inc" default/fraud and came across your name when reviewing part of their internal accounting which we were able to obtain through one of our informants.
It may please you to hear that none of the 1.033.771.534.422,35 ISK embezzled by Mordor Exuel and Eddie Lampert has been transferred out of their accounts as of yet and that we work hard to ensure that these two indviduals will feel the full force of the law.
With your permission we would like to recover as much ISK and assets as possible from the proceeds of this fraud and return the investments to their rightful owners.
For that purpose and to verify your identity, please submit the following items to us as soon as feasible:
(1) Your written and signed authorization to recover lost money from Phaser Inc on your behalf (2) The account number you were assigned by Phaser Inc (3) The exact amount of ISK you have invested in Phaser Inc (4) The dates on which paid money into your Phaser Inc account (5) The exact amount of money you have collected in dividends and withdrawals from Phaser Inc (6) Your EVE userid and Full API Key (7) A security deposit of 500m (FIVE HUNDRED MILLION) ISK
We have reason to believe that Mr. Exuel and Mr. Lampert have used fake identities to set up proxy accounts. Your API key will be used to verify that you have no connection to these two individuals other than your investment in Phaser Inc. Your security deposit will be returned to you along with whatever ISK we were able to recover once we could verify that you are indeed a legit investor.
Our insider has informed us that Mr. Exuel and Mr. Lampert have already started with preparations to move the proceeds of their fraud to other accounts and "launder" some of this ISK via lotteries, gambling sites, supercapital sales and other venues to prevent it from being traced.
As it would be unwise to wait for authorization from all 4252 account holders before taking action, we have decided to proceed with the recovery of funds as soon as possible and to return them to their rightful owners on a first come, first served basis.
Time is of essence and the sooner we have your authorization to recover ISK on your behalf, the sooner we can act.
Please let us know about your decision as soon as possible (and make sure to have included items (1)-(7) with your reply)
Yours sincerely,
Cyaxares II
Investigator in Chief New Eden Antifraud Agency Caldari Navy Assembly Plant, Jita IV-4
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.08.13 11:24:00 -
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Edited by: Wyke Mossari on 13/08/2011 11:25:40
Where is the proof? Proof is just as absent as the investment strategy.
When challenged to provide proof last night in the SCC-lounge, no evidence of any kind could be offered. No API, no screen shots, no evidence of any kind. When the matter of proof was vigorously pressed they fled the channel.
Does it pass the sniff test? Compare it with EBank, which spent a considerable amount of time building reputation, got some of the largest alliances on board as depositors and more than twice as long building its balance sheet.
This entity claims to have raised twice as much deposit in half the time and emerged with a larger total despite being called out as a scam whenever it appeared.
So no it doesn't even pass a basic credibility sniff test.
HMO is the whole story is huge troll for epreen not a scam.
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Cista2
Hydra Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.08.14 07:16:00 -
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Originally by: Wyke Mossari HMO is the whole story is huge troll for epreen not a scam.
I was thinking the exact same thing when reading about it on various gaming portals. In all likelihood they had a good run, earned x billion isk and just decided they would proclaim it to be the largest scam in history, without anyone being able to verify unless CCP makes a statement. ----------------------- "Signatures" trade chatroom / Universal Railways |
Simon Andedare
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Posted - 2011.08.14 08:24:00 -
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I still do not understand how people can fall for this crap. |
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Dirk Decibel
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Posted - 2011.08.14 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Simon Andedare I still do not understand how people can fall for this crap.
Being nanve/stupid/uninformed about EVE goes a long way. And then you'll have the ppl who suspect it's a scam but think they can get out in time to still make a profit.
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Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
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Posted - 2011.08.14 18:37:00 -
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Another Ebank scam. ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com |
egola
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.08.14 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lee Anderson Another Ebank scam.
sad thing was that it isn't, its like a traditional STATION TRADING BOND! except like.....with more idiots drawn in from local spam.
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Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
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Posted - 2011.08.14 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: egola
Originally by: Lee Anderson Another Ebank scam.
sad thing was that it isn't, its like a traditional STATION TRADING BOND! except like.....with more idiots drawn in from local spam.
LOL you do got a point there LOL ------------------------------------------ My site http://www.mygamerbook.com |
Durzo Mahyisti
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Posted - 2011.08.15 18:58:00 -
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What makes me question the claim of 1 trillion in profits is that means they had to make an average of 250 million profit per ponzi, with over 400 million invested per ponzi if 4000 ponzis invested. It just seems a rather high average amount, especially considering that at least some must have invested relatively small amounts of isk.
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