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Blake Razgriz
VF University Tranquillian Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.23 02:35:00 -
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Well im just gonna ask why does singularity have sped up training and buckingham doesnt? is this some change you guys made or did you guys forget, i miss the sped up training lolz, can you guys add sped up training to buckingham plz? =D |
Blake Razgriz
VF University Tranquillian Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.23 03:33:00 -
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Do you guys think we should have training sped up in buckingham? =D |
Matthew97
Pro Synergy ARK.
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Posted - 2012.09.23 09:01:00 -
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None of the servers have ever had sped up training I agree that we should have some sped up training because it could help us but I doubt they would actually put it in |
Blake Razgriz
VF University Tranquillian Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.23 15:40:00 -
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hmm i think ive had some people lie to me =D time to blow them up in buckingham =D they should ad sped up training =D |
Oberine Noriepa
925
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Posted - 2012.09.24 02:04:00 -
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Buy +5 implants and participate in mass tests. That's as much of a boost to training time as you're going to get. Resources spent on adding a feature like this are better spent on something meaningful to EVE's development. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
963
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Posted - 2012.09.25 10:20:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Buy +5 implants and participate in mass tests. That's as much of a boost to training time as you're going to get. Resources spent on adding a feature like this are better spent on something meaningful to EVE's development.
Pretty much this. There are no plans whatsoever to change training times on test servers. If you want skillpoints, participate in mass tests. CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
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Posted - 2012.09.25 11:32:00 -
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To be fair since it is a test server, you could simply give everyone say a hundred million allocatable SP at mirrors, and since the code for allocatable SP already exists, it seems like it would be a fairly simple thing to do. It's sometimes hard to test things if you can't fly a ship. For example i would love to test the upcoming NPC AI changes, but that would take more than one capable character when at the moment i only have one. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
314
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Posted - 2012.09.25 13:27:00 -
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Witchking Angmar wrote:To be fair since it is a test server, you could simply give everyone say a hundred million allocatable SP at mirrors, and since the code for allocatable SP already exists, it seems like it would be a fairly simple thing to do. It's sometimes hard to test things if you can't fly a ship. For example i would love to test the upcoming NPC AI changes, but that would take more than one capable character when at the moment i only have one.
who would test the frigs and cruisers then..... everyone would simply use the TEST server to fly cap ships.
Also what meaningful testing can someone really do if they have had no experience on tranquility with whatever they are 'testing''
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
Arline Kley
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2012.09.25 15:00:00 -
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They gave everyone (a few back) ALL the skills at Level V on SiSi
Nearly everyone flew supercaps that day and it broke the server because of all the Doomsdays - prior to the Death-Starequse FreemBeam
Also, anything that goes on at The Palace (hey its called Buckingham) and SiSi is meant for actual bug-hunting and testing of game mechanics, NOT your personal T2 fitted Damnation with Yes EHP.
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Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:08:00 -
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I understand it would lead to misuse. But that's a whole different problem, isn't it?
Arline Kley wrote:Also, anything that goes on at The Palace (hey its called Buckingham) and SiSi is meant for actual bug-hunting and testing of game mechanics, NOT your personal T2 fitted Damnation with Yes EHP.
You know, i completely agree with this. Personally i don't use the test server because we're not given the proper tools for testing. |
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Valeo Galaem
New Eden Advanced Reconnaissance Unit Sentient World Observation and Response Directive
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Posted - 2012.09.27 18:51:00 -
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I used to make argument for this but I think giving away SP rewards for mass-testing is a good compromise and nice incentive to actually get involved with the testing effort.
Doesn't need to change. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
968
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Posted - 2012.10.02 00:12:00 -
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Witchking Angmar wrote:I understand it would lead to misuse. But that's a whole different problem, isn't it? Arline Kley wrote:Also, anything that goes on at The Palace (hey its called Buckingham) and SiSi is meant for actual bug-hunting and testing of game mechanics, NOT your personal T2 fitted Damnation with Yes EHP. You know, i completely agree with this. Personally i don't use the test server because we're not given the proper tools for testing.
What is it you want to test but can't? Frigates and destroyers can run level 1 missions easily, or go to belts and fight rats. That would test the new AI and ship balancing changes just fine! CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
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Posted - 2012.10.02 03:15:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Buy +5 implants and participate in mass tests. That's as much of a boost to training time as you're going to get. Resources spent on adding a feature like this are better spent on something meaningful to EVE's development. Pretty much this. There are no plans whatsoever to change training times on test servers. If you want skillpoints, participate in mass tests.
Awesome news for those of us who CAN'T participate in Mass Tests....and no, we will not take a day off of work just to attend a mass test.
And i made a real effort this last one, landed in the test system a mere 15 minutes after the test 'started' only to find it almost empty and nobody in the "mass test" chat channel...and got zero skill points. http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
Evelyn Meiyi
Meiyi Family Holdings
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Posted - 2012.10.02 07:41:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Witchking Angmar wrote:I understand it would lead to misuse. But that's a whole different problem, isn't it? Arline Kley wrote:Also, anything that goes on at The Palace (hey its called Buckingham) and SiSi is meant for actual bug-hunting and testing of game mechanics, NOT your personal T2 fitted Damnation with Yes EHP. You know, i completely agree with this. Personally i don't use the test server because we're not given the proper tools for testing. What is it you want to test but can't? Frigates and destroyers can run level 1 missions easily, or go to belts and fight rats. That would test the new AI and ship balancing changes just fine!
Your 'proper tools' are there -- on the ends of your arms and in your head. Granted, I would love to have a specific list of things to test -- but we've got the test server, we know what's going up for bug-hunting, and we're all capable gamers. |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction Against ALL Anomalies
285
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Posted - 2012.10.02 13:35:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Buy +5 implants and participate in mass tests. That's as much of a boost to training time as you're going to get. Resources spent on adding a feature like this are better spent on something meaningful to EVE's development. Pretty much this. There are no plans whatsoever to change training times on test servers. If you want skillpoints, participate in mass tests. Awesome news for those of us who CAN'T participate in Mass Tests....and no, we will not take a day off of work just to attend a mass test. And i made a real effort this last one, landed in the test system a mere 15 minutes after the test 'started' only to find it almost empty and nobody in the "mass test" chat channel...and got zero skill points.
I feels ya bro...
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
972
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Posted - 2012.10.03 09:48:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:Panhead4411 wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Buy +5 implants and participate in mass tests. That's as much of a boost to training time as you're going to get. Resources spent on adding a feature like this are better spent on something meaningful to EVE's development. Pretty much this. There are no plans whatsoever to change training times on test servers. If you want skillpoints, participate in mass tests. Awesome news for those of us who CAN'T participate in Mass Tests....and no, we will not take a day off of work just to attend a mass test. And i made a real effort this last one, landed in the test system a mere 15 minutes after the test 'started' only to find it almost empty and nobody in the "mass test" chat channel...and got zero skill points. I feels ya bro... *space hug*
Which date was this and which test server were you on? CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
972
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Posted - 2012.10.03 09:50:00 -
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Evelyn Meiyi wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Witchking Angmar wrote:I understand it would lead to misuse. But that's a whole different problem, isn't it? Arline Kley wrote:Also, anything that goes on at The Palace (hey its called Buckingham) and SiSi is meant for actual bug-hunting and testing of game mechanics, NOT your personal T2 fitted Damnation with Yes EHP. You know, i completely agree with this. Personally i don't use the test server because we're not given the proper tools for testing. What is it you want to test but can't? Frigates and destroyers can run level 1 missions easily, or go to belts and fight rats. That would test the new AI and ship balancing changes just fine! Your 'proper tools' are there -- on the ends of your arms and in your head. Granted, I would love to have a specific list of things to test -- but we've got the test server, we know what's going up for bug-hunting, and we're all capable gamers.
When Duality was up before I and Fozzie were very specific on what to test, even having a coordinated event to emphasise it. In recent expansions I have posted areas to focus on/features that the teams were working on, but that doesn't really apply to what is currently on Buckingham as most of the changes will be tested simply by normal play occurring (they are largely technical in nature) CCP Goliath | QA Director | @CCP_Goliath |
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Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
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Posted - 2012.10.11 03:52:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Panhead4411 wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Buy +5 implants and participate in mass tests. That's as much of a boost to training time as you're going to get. Resources spent on adding a feature like this are better spent on something meaningful to EVE's development. Pretty much this. There are no plans whatsoever to change training times on test servers. If you want skillpoints, participate in mass tests. Awesome news for those of us who CAN'T participate in Mass Tests....and no, we will not take a day off of work just to attend a mass test. And i made a real effort this last one, landed in the test system a mere 15 minutes after the test 'started' only to find it almost empty and nobody in the "mass test" chat channel...and got zero skill points. Which date was this and which test server were you on?
What do you mean, what date was this and what test server????
That thursday (27th?) you had the test (you know, the only mass test you've had in what seems like 9 months), and on the only test server that EVE can log into...Bucky....unless you made a single day exception for SiSi, after yall told everyone to switch our SiSi's over to Bucky since it will be the primary Eve Test for a while. Also it wasn't with this character, it was with two alts of mine. http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1061
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Posted - 2012.10.11 09:15:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Panhead4411 wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Buy +5 implants and participate in mass tests. That's as much of a boost to training time as you're going to get. Resources spent on adding a feature like this are better spent on something meaningful to EVE's development. Pretty much this. There are no plans whatsoever to change training times on test servers. If you want skillpoints, participate in mass tests. Awesome news for those of us who CAN'T participate in Mass Tests....and no, we will not take a day off of work just to attend a mass test. And i made a real effort this last one, landed in the test system a mere 15 minutes after the test 'started' only to find it almost empty and nobody in the "mass test" chat channel...and got zero skill points. Which date was this and which test server were you on? What do you mean, what date was this and what test server???? That thursday (27th?) you had the test (you know, the only mass test you've had in what seems like 9 months), and on the only test server that EVE can log into...Bucky....unless you made a single day exception for SiSi, after yall told everyone to switch our SiSi's over to Bucky since it will be the primary Eve Test for a while. Also it wasn't with this character, it was with two alts of mine.
Ugh, I meant system, not server. My apologies. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services The Possum Lodge
221
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Posted - 2012.10.11 12:36:00 -
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I flew both my alts to D2-HOS, then i went to Odamia, upon arriving there (15 minutes after "start" time), finding only 3 ppl in local, i searched for the Mass Test Channel, jumped in, found nobody in there. So i jumped around to some of the planets, looked at the districts, then AP'd back home.
Sorry for seeming slightly frustrated at your asking 'what date and server'...the frustration comes from the fact that question seems on par with CCP's general behavior this year. Not meant to offend, just being honest. http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
269
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Posted - 2012.10.11 14:21:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:I flew both my alts to D2-HOS, then i went to Odamia, upon arriving there (15 minutes after "start" time), finding only 3 ppl in local, i searched for the Mass Test Channel, jumped in, found nobody in there. So i jumped around to some of the planets, looked at the districts, then AP'd back home.
Sorry for seeming slightly frustrated at your asking 'what date and server'...the frustration comes from the fact that question seems on par with CCP's general behavior this year. Not meant to offend, just being honest.
I had a short look at server logs and it seems like you arrived with one of your alts in D2-HOS at 22:21 UTC (=eve time), when the mass test was already over. The mass test started at 20:00 and lasted until 21:00. CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock Writing bug reports | Mass tests
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Staleward Ad'mraa
Fission. JINN.
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Posted - 2012.10.12 11:15:00 -
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Why not pin the test dates with this format title, Duality Mass Test (M/D/Y) Time at (System). You could easily tell people what you are testing and let them know what they need in advance. That way everyone is on the same page and will make tests go more smoothly. If they miss the mass test, then it be their fault for not checking the Test Server Feedback Forums.
Anyways I can't access Buckingham, but I can access Duality due to mirror. I had my character since 2008, but this is a new account, so practically got to wait till the next mirror for Buckingham, while sadly Duality is closed at the moment. Can I get any information when Duality will be reactivated again? |
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CCP Habakuk
C C P C C P Alliance
269
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:02:00 -
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Staleward Ad'mraa wrote:Why not pin the test dates with this format title, Duality Mass Test (M/D/Y) Time at (System). You could easily tell people what you are testing and let them know what they need in advance. That way everyone is on the same page and will make tests go more smoothly. If they miss the mass test, then it be their fault for not checking the Test Server Feedback Forums.
Anyways I can't access Buckingham, but I can access Duality due to mirror. I had my character since 2008, but this is a new account, so practically got to wait till the next mirror for Buckingham, while sadly Duality is closed at the moment. Can I get any information when Duality will be reactivated again?
This was the title of the announcement thread: "Mass test on Buckingham on Thursday, 27th September at 20:00 UTC" Sure, the format was slightly different compared to your proposal, but the important information was included. I assume the main problem here is with time zones. Do you have any good idea on how to add the time zone information in a better way? CCP Habakuk | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Gridlock Writing bug reports | Mass tests
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Witchking Angmar
Perkele.
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Posted - 2012.10.12 12:30:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Witchking Angmar wrote:I understand it would lead to misuse. But that's a whole different problem, isn't it? Arline Kley wrote:Also, anything that goes on at The Palace (hey its called Buckingham) and SiSi is meant for actual bug-hunting and testing of game mechanics, NOT your personal T2 fitted Damnation with Yes EHP. You know, i completely agree with this. Personally i don't use the test server because we're not given the proper tools for testing. What is it you want to test but can't? Frigates and destroyers can run level 1 missions easily, or go to belts and fight rats. That would test the new AI and ship balancing changes just fine!
I've never lived in hisec, never ran missions, never will, so i really don't care about them and have no incentive to test them. As for your suggestion of running belts, i really can't tell if you're trolling. What i would however be interested in testing is the high end DED complexes, but alas running any of them requires more than one character and as i pointed out earlier, while have three accounts i only have one character with enough skills for them at the moment. On Tranquility i could easily find someone else to run them with, but on a test server there is no reward to completing a complex and therefore no incentive to do so. |
Staleward Ad'mraa
Fission. JINN.
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Posted - 2012.10.12 14:10:00 -
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CCP Habakuk wrote:Staleward Ad'mraa wrote:Why not pin the test dates with this format title, Duality Mass Test (M/D/Y) Time at (System). You could easily tell people what you are testing and let them know what they need in advance. That way everyone is on the same page and will make tests go more smoothly. If they miss the mass test, then it be their fault for not checking the Test Server Feedback Forums.
Anyways I can't access Buckingham, but I can access Duality due to mirror. I had my character since 2008, but this is a new account, so practically got to wait till the next mirror for Buckingham, while sadly Duality is closed at the moment. Can I get any information when Duality will be reactivated again? This was the title of the announcement thread: "Mass test on Buckingham on Thursday, 27th September at 20:00 UTC" Sure, the format was slightly different compared to your proposal, but the important information was included. I assume the main problem here is with time zones. Do you have any good idea on how to add the time zone information in a better way?
Well there can be three main time zones you can display. U.S. time zone, Europe time zone, and Asian time zone which are your three biggest user bases. This will allow for most of the users who play the game to actually get the time right. I usually go by the central time zone here in America. This can be displayed in the forum.
I don't think people pay much attention to the in-game time zone, because it is on the bottom left hand and very hard to notice. Why not move it to the top of the screen so people have it right next to your targeting, that way they know what time it is in the game. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1067
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Posted - 2012.10.13 12:39:00 -
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Staleward Ad'mraa wrote:CCP Habakuk wrote:Staleward Ad'mraa wrote:Why not pin the test dates with this format title, Duality Mass Test (M/D/Y) Time at (System). You could easily tell people what you are testing and let them know what they need in advance. That way everyone is on the same page and will make tests go more smoothly. If they miss the mass test, then it be their fault for not checking the Test Server Feedback Forums.
Anyways I can't access Buckingham, but I can access Duality due to mirror. I had my character since 2008, but this is a new account, so practically got to wait till the next mirror for Buckingham, while sadly Duality is closed at the moment. Can I get any information when Duality will be reactivated again? This was the title of the announcement thread: "Mass test on Buckingham on Thursday, 27th September at 20:00 UTC" Sure, the format was slightly different compared to your proposal, but the important information was included. I assume the main problem here is with time zones. Do you have any good idea on how to add the time zone information in a better way? Well there can be three main time zones you can display. U.S. time zone, Europe time zone, and Asian time zone which are your three biggest user bases. This will allow for most of the users who play the game to actually get the time right. I usually go by the central time zone here in America. This can be displayed in the forum. I don't think people pay much attention to the in-game time zone, because it is on the bottom left hand and very hard to notice. Why not move it to the top of the screen so people have it right next to your targeting, that way they know what time it is in the game.
UTC isn't an EVE time term, it's Coordinated Universal Time. Just like if we were to write PST (Pacific Standard Time). The fact that UTC is the same as EVE time is mainly coincidental, and there isn't really any such thing as "US time zone" CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Kosetzu
Avitus Lugus
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Posted - 2012.10.17 16:24:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:UTC isn't an EVE time term, it's Coordinated Universal Time. Just like if we were to write PST (Pacific Standard Time). The fact that UTC is the same as EVE time is mainly coincidental, and there isn't really any such thing as "US time zone" I think the problem with the time zones is that a lot of people don't know what the different abbreviations are, and if you add the 1 hour difference for summertime (which EVE does not). Personally I'm not really bothered as I live in UTC +1 so I know EVE-time is either 1 or 2 hours ahead, depending on the time of the year.
At least what I feel is easiest is sticking with the UTC, most people should know how many hours to subtract or add to the UTC (GMT) time
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