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Tyears
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:15:00 -
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Seriously, in the real world can you go up to your government and give them some money for them to allow you to kill other people RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE? How does that make sense? This is basically bribing the police to break the law, how does that make sense in a society far advanced than ours?
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OMGWTFResearch
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:19:00 -
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You do understand the point of the wardec system no? |
Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears Seriously, in the real world
Who cares about the real world? This is EVE ù not the same thing.
And no, attacking targets in highsec is one of the main points of having wardecs to begin with. Moreover, it would make highsec corp assets completely untouchable without that ability. It's a good thing. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Ai Mei
Starfish Operating Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:21:00 -
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See Reference
The Kennedy family, Marilyn Monroe affair, ted Kennedy, etc.
See also
O.J. Simpson Casey Anthony Joan Benet Ramsey family Al Capone Bugsy Malone Congressman Gary Condit and Chandra Levy KGB
Ok not going to go on but you get the idea.
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Ryhss
Caldari The Excecutorans
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears Seriously, in the real world can you go up to your government and give them some money for them to allow you to kill other people RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE? How does that make sense? This is basically bribing the police to break the law, how does that make sense in a society far advanced than ours?
The whole point of war decs is so you can fight in hi sec.
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Tyears
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:22:00 -
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Originally by: OMGWTFResearch You do understand the point of the wardec system no?
To let people gank others? If they want to do that, they can go to nullsec or lowsec.
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Tyears
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ryhss
Originally by: Tyears Seriously, in the real world can you go up to your government and give them some money for them to allow you to kill other people RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE? How does that make sense? This is basically bribing the police to break the law, how does that make sense in a society far advanced than ours?
The whole point of war decs is so you can fight in hi sec.
Not really, it just forces people to stay in NPC corps or switch corps, which just destroys community building, damaging the game in the long run.
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Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears
Originally by: OMGWTFResearch You do understand the point of the wardec system no?
To let people gank others? If they want to do that, they can go to nullsec or lowsec.
You clearly do not understand the system or you are a troll. Consideing your name, I will go with troll and give you a 0/10 score.
Slade
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears
Originally by: OMGWTFResearch You do understand the point of the wardec system no?
To let people gank others?
No. You can do that without wardecs. It's there to let you go after targets en masse or to disrupt activities that would otherwise be completely safe under the protection of CONCORD, and that level of safety would be bad forà well, almost everyone.
Quote: If they want to do that, they can go to nullsec or lowsec.
No, because highsec is in no way meant to be free of combat ù it's just a place where combat comes at a cost, and wardecs is one method of paying those costs.
ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Rikeka
Eye of God
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Rikeka on 15/08/2011 22:28:06 To OP.
True, so... CCP, make it that after 30 days of registering, you are assigned to a corp, or make it that factions can be wardecced!
The problem would be then be solved. Thx OP for bringing this up.
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Trax Rabbit
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears Seriously, in the real world can you go up to your government and give them some money for them to allow you to kill other people RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE? How does that make sense? This is basically bribing the police to break the law, how does that make sense in a society far advanced than ours?
Yes in many countries this is normal.
the good news is, Eve is just a video game so who cares. Makes it more exciting.
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:41:00 -
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Look, this thread again!
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Alina Wize
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears
Originally by: Ryhss
Originally by: Tyears Seriously, in the real world can you go up to your government and give them some money for them to allow you to kill other people RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE? How does that make sense? This is basically bribing the police to break the law, how does that make sense in a society far advanced than ours?
The whole point of war decs is so you can fight in hi sec.
Not really, it just forces people to stay in NPC corps or switch corps, which just destroys community building, damaging the game in the long run.
It doesn't damage the game. Harden the **** up pubbie.
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Monstress
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears
Originally by: Ryhss
Originally by: Tyears Seriously, in the real world can you go up to your government and give them some money for them to allow you to kill other people RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE? How does that make sense? This is basically bribing the police to break the law, how does that make sense in a society far advanced than ours?
The whole point of war decs is so you can fight in hi sec.
Not really, it just forces people to stay in NPC corps or switch corps, which just destroys community building, damaging the game in the long run.
Not really, you and/or your corp mates are just too dumb to do anything about it.
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Iron Breaker
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Posted - 2011.08.15 22:49:00 -
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I don't understand why one side can pay to start a war, but the other side cant pay to end it.
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Summer Tame
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Posted - 2011.08.15 23:12:00 -
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Trololololo ppl, don't feed the troll...
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Lithalnas
Amarr Privateers Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2011.08.15 23:24:00 -
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Originally by: Iron Breaker I don't understand why one side can pay to start a war, but the other side cant pay to end it.
pay the man -------------
Mictro-Transactions can bite my shinny metal exhaust port. |
Hydraka
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Posted - 2011.08.15 23:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears My hulk just got blown up while I was mining in Abudban
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Dub Step
Minmatar Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.15 23:53:00 -
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These threads never get old.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.08.16 00:00:00 -
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Originally by: Dub Step These threads never get old.
*munch* *munch*
Popcorn? _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
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Zendi Hoffstra Okaski
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Posted - 2011.08.16 00:06:00 -
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lol
You haven't met many real life cops have you?
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Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2011.08.16 00:18:00 -
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And on top of everything else that's wrong with this thread, in some countries people can and do kill others in public while authorities look the other way. Of course, the "authorities" in question are not typically measuring up to any sort of reasonable standard in their application of the law. So when the police force responsible for punishing the actions of immortal pod pilots deals with things in a way that you may find unusual, well you shouldn't be surprised. Different places, different systems. I really can't believe I actually just typed this post. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.08.16 00:37:00 -
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I have seen better, and more eloquent posts on somethingawful and 4chan.
♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/ |
Mashie Saldana
Minmatar Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.08.16 00:49:00 -
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Successful trolling is successful. I'm amazed no one seemed to even look at the name of the op.
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Ladie Scarlet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.16 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ai Mei See Reference
The Kennedy family, Marilyn Monroe affair, ted Kennedy, etc.
See also
O.J. Simpson Casey Anthony Joan Benet Ramsey family Al Capone Bugsy Malone Congressman Gary Condit and Chandra Levy KGB
Ok not going to go on but you get the idea.
Fox News viewer spotted!
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2011.08.16 02:17:00 -
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Not as good as this.
Try again please.
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JC LoveLust
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Posted - 2011.08.16 03:15:00 -
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This is obviously a troll thread as his name is Tyears and he wants to see them about how internet spaceships is run.
Wardec system is to: 1) keep kids in WOW not EVE 2) keep destruction of isk up so the market dosn't flood and the game does not collapse. 3) provide fun in high sec 4) provide Tyears
if anything they should up the cost to create a corp to stop macros from hopping corp every time I dec them. (like 20m instead of 1m)
thanks all, hope more tyears are posted, nom nom nom nom.
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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.08.16 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Simetraz on 16/08/2011 03:30:01
Originally by: Tyears Seriously, in the real world can you go up to your government and give them some money for them to allow you to kill other people RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE? How does that make sense? This is basically bribing the police to break the law, how does that make sense in a society far advanced than ours?
Advanced civilization can have many meanings and has been debated for a long time. The undisputed bit is that one form of an advanced race means there technology is just that, advanced beyond current levels. CHECK
Now the second bit the bit that has lots of discussion. Does technology and social development come hand in hand. And by being a advanced race does that mean they are void of all wars.
Think Klingons and Vulcans.
Now based on the fact that the human race went back to the dark ages in EVE and is basically in a constant state of war. That Concord was made to protect the masses but does not enforce peace. Therefore personal disputes are just that personal, and one pays Concord to ignore the parties involved. As long as it doesn't spill over so to speak, there really is no issue.
Keep in mind, Concord is NOT there to enforce the peace, only to keep a semblance of order. |
Guillame Herschel
Gallente NME1
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Posted - 2011.08.16 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tyears Seriously, in the real world can you go up to your government and give them some money for them to allow you to kill other people RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE?
Yes. You can also get the police to kill them for you for the right price. Alas, that is not possible in EVE.
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Jada Maroo
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Posted - 2011.08.16 07:29:00 -
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Edited by: Jada Maroo on 16/08/2011 07:32:08 Paying off CONCORD to allow killing is something that's always struck me as odd and I wish, at least, the lore in this respect would be changed.
I wouldn't mind seeing the definitions and boundaries of high/low/null being changed. For example:
1.0 to .8 sec: Empire governments and CONCORD assumed to be in total control, no war allowed. The number of these systems would be greatly reduced from the current amount.
.5 to .7: Mega corporations assumed local control and systems are run by corporate law. CONCORD not alerted so long as the proper fees/bribes are paid to controlling corps (mechanically it works like it does now, but CONCORD isn't the one charging the fees). "Smart" interdiction ambush points for war targets only allowed if fees paid (see lowsec below for description of how it would work).
.1 to .4: Currently low sec is only more secure because of gate guns and not allowing bubbles and bombs. I think it's silly that these structures (gates) which are armed and obviously intended to provide some level of protection are dumb enough to allow obvious gate camping. Same with station camps. Doesn't make much sense to me. I'd prefer to see:
* Loitering timer for gate gun aggro. Stick around too long, you're assumed to be camping. * Same for stations.
"But how do you gank and PvP in low sec???"
Allow people to set up actual ambush points on jump routes away from the guns and stations. Allow for some strategy in navigating and catching prey in low sec. Allow interdiction away from gates and stations. Introduce a new feature to heavy dictors that allows them to interfere with navigation computers and draw near-by prey in mid-warp to their location. Have a countermeasure for this too of course.
To me this would make more sense and keep low sec dangerous without the station games.
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