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Rhedea
Rhedea Corp
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Posted - 2011.08.16 06:23:00 -
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Edited by: Rhedea on 16/08/2011 06:31:47 Shrink the size of low-sec by increasing the range of hi-sec 1.0 to 0.3 and have null-sec alliances sov control over 0.1 and 0.2 This would force more pvpers into playing in Null-sec.
Well sort of, because this idea makes as much sense as forcing non-pvper from hi-sec into low-sec/null-sec.
Wow what a dumb idea!
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Ryhss
Caldari The Excecutorans
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Posted - 2011.08.16 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: Ryhss on 16/08/2011 07:31:11 STOP TRYING TO MOVE US TO NULL SEC AT ALL!
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Dub Step
Minmatar Death To Everyone But Us
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Posted - 2011.08.16 08:29:00 -
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No one is forcing you to low sec.
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Thorn Galen
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.08.16 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Thorn Galen on 16/08/2011 09:11:11 Might as well ban the whole Alliance deal then. Alliances bring Corps together - they will not wardec each other, obviously. Alliances form alliances with other Alliances - this continues on and in time it all boils down to very few Alliances who actually wardec each other. Disable Alliances, that way every single Corp has to take care of itself.
bwahahahahaha. Nerf High Sec, Nerf Low sec, my word, nothing ever makes people happy in this game.
I WILL NOT PvP!! If I know that there is a human being on the other side of my BFG's, I will not fight! It is against my religion, yes, it seriously is against my religion, so don't try forcing change in game dymanics just because you are all bored of pew-pew'ing each other and need fresh "meat", which happens to be in HiSec.
Even the Wild West had its share of Sheriff's and Rangers, but no, PvP must occur unhindered, unpunished, anywhere and everywhere, at any time ? LOL!
Suicide gank a defenceless miner and you get to put stats up on a killboard ?? ROFL! No honour, no glory. Killboard stats where a player has popped dozens of Shuttles in one day ?? All obviously set-up, but it's a "kill"? LOL again.
I even LOL at this post of mine for bothering to post on these forums, in this post. LOL!
Troll along.
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Kaethe Kollwitz
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Posted - 2011.08.16 09:29:00 -
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null sec sucks dongs.
heres where its at in order of fun:
High sec Wormhole Low sec Null sec
I would literally rather go and play a crappy unfinished robot game than move to null.
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Long John Silver
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Posted - 2011.08.16 11:28:00 -
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Easiest way to move folks into nullsec is to let concord police it.
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Efraya
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.16 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz
heres where its at in order of fun:
High sec Wormhole Low sec Null sec
We live in a sandbox, fun is what you make it.
People have fun trading. They have fun mining. "Fun" is relative. Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
Eight Sinn
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Posted - 2011.08.16 21:03:00 -
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Nullsec Noob question - Is the only way to live in nullsec to be part of a corp that has someplace to doc or are there places that a solo person can dock in nullsec?
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Zyress
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Posted - 2011.08.16 21:11:00 -
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Originally by: Long John Silver Easiest way to move folks into nullsec is to let concord police it.
Now there's an idea, take all the Faction Warfare guys and send them in a new direction, send the factions out conquering Nullsec, extending their empires
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Exploited Engineer
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Posted - 2011.08.16 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: Eight Sinn Nullsec Noob question - Is the only way to live in nullsec to be part of a corp that has someplace to doc or are there places that a solo person can dock in nullsec?
There's such a thing as "NPC nullsec". That's where many of the shiny pirate faction ships come from.
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Akasha Dawn Worldbreaker
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Posted - 2011.08.16 21:54:00 -
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The reason i hate Null Sec. I log into EVE instantly someone is yelling at me in chat get in Vent/TS3/Mumble. I get in whatever. Someone i dont even really like is telling me get in X ship and go to X location and do X. I get to X and sit for 2-3 hours doing nothing but waiting. I did this for about a month then though to my self i am paying to do this? WTF. I am sure Null Sec is great but my time there sucked A**.
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Jiska Ensa
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Posted - 2011.08.16 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Jiska Ensa on 16/08/2011 22:05:03
Originally by: Akasha Dawn Worldbreaker The reason i hate Null Sec. I log into EVE instantly someone is yelling at me in chat get in Vent/TS3/Mumble. I get in whatever. Someone i dont even really like is telling me get in X ship and go to X location and do X. I get to X and sit for 2-3 hours doing nothing but waiting. I did this for about a month then though to my self i am paying to do this? WTF. I am sure Null Sec is great but my time there sucked A**.
This.
It may be a sandbox, but the sandbox is full of idiots peeing in it, then ordering you to clean it up for them. When alliances stop sucking, null-sec will stop sucking.
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Jak Silverheart
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.17 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: Jiska Ensa Edited by: Jiska Ensa on 16/08/2011 22:05:03
Originally by: Akasha Dawn Worldbreaker The reason i hate Null Sec. I log into EVE instantly someone is yelling at me in chat get in Vent/TS3/Mumble. I get in whatever. Someone i dont even really like is telling me get in X ship and go to X location and do X. I get to X and sit for 2-3 hours doing nothing but waiting. I did this for about a month then though to my self i am paying to do this? WTF. I am sure Null Sec is great but my time there sucked A**.
This.
It may be a sandbox, but the sandbox is full of idiots peeing in it, then ordering you to clean it up for them. When alliances stop sucking, null-sec will stop sucking.
Thats actually why I haven't moved out to null sec yet. I lived in low sec early in my eve carreer, than moved back up to high sec. High sec is just easier for a casual player, none of that null sec drama of trying to chip into helping the corporation/alliance stuff. And I imagine it's far more difficult to procure supplies in null.
Incarna, giving pilots a single room bachelor pad with a mirror and no beer since 6.21.2011 |
Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.08.17 01:24:00 -
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Quote: I WILL NOT PvP!! If I know that there is a human being on the other side of my BFG's, I will not fight! It is against my religion, yes, it seriously is against my religion, so don't try forcing change in game dymanics just because you are all bored of pew-pew'ing each other and need fresh "meat", which happens to be in HiSec.
It's against your religion to have a computer calculate shots fired based upon slight randomness against another person in a fact fictitious space craft? You can call it violence, but it's really not as no one is getting hurt. By this rational you can't play chess either.
What religion mentions no fake violence against virtual fake space ships? I dont mean to troll, but I really am curious.
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.08.17 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Eight Sinn Nullsec Noob question - Is the only way to live in nullsec to be part of a corp that has someplace to doc or are there places that a solo person can dock in nullsec?
there is NPC nullsec stations, but its a crowded place, and in nullsec, seeing someone is bad unless you are looking for PVP...
also chances are, they have friends near by
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Ryhss
Caldari The Excecutorans
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Posted - 2011.08.17 01:35:00 -
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Originally by: Dub Step No one is forcing you to low sec.
CCP is trying to......
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Cornullus Rage
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Posted - 2011.08.17 02:13:00 -
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Are any of you really going to undock from Jita 4-4?
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Johnny Dexter
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Posted - 2011.08.17 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ryhss
Originally by: Dub Step No one is forcing you to low sec.
CCP is trying to......
Well yes, the entire design was to have high sec as a training ground before everyone move out to 0.0 for the "end game". Yet, 80% of the playerbase decide they'd rather do PvE - an absolute ****ing chore in EVE - for money they will realistically never put into good use because they don't lose any ships.
I'm quite puzzled actually, if you're not interested in player conflict then why not play something like WoW that is a PvE game through and through, with great quest content all the way from level 1 to 85, raids etc.
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dexington
Caldari Baconoration
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Posted - 2011.08.17 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny Dexter
Originally by: Ryhss
Originally by: Dub Step No one is forcing you to low sec.
CCP is trying to......
Well yes, the entire design was to have high sec as a training ground before everyone move out to 0.0 for the "end game". Yet, 80% of the playerbase decide they'd rather do PvE - an absolute ****ing chore in EVE - for money they will realistically never put into good use because they don't lose any ships.
I'm quite puzzled actually, if you're not interested in player conflict then why not play something like WoW that is a PvE game through and through, with great quest content all the way from level 1 to 85, raids etc.
Maybe they believed CCP's BS about eve being a sandbox game, with no end game and max character level
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Tippia
Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.08.17 02:22:00 -
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/move <playername> <system>
ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
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Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
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Posted - 2011.08.17 02:33:00 -
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Simple give up on pirating like many other before you! And CCP has tried many times in the past.
Its always DEAD, Get over IT already.. RELAX and KEEP IT SIMPLE ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions. |
Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.08.17 02:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kengutsi Akira on 17/08/2011 02:47:35 How to move.... etc
remove all sec space and concord. Theres no longer anything BUT null sec
Originally by: Cornullus Rage Are any of you really going to undock from Jita 4-4?
lol I stay away from there that place is too dangerous ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.08.17 03:58:00 -
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Real answer is increase incentives, and make it less of a hassle to stay out there or get out there... Also ask why so many are so reluctant to move out there? I love pvp in most MMO's, but in eve it's a pita to find a fight or if you get exploded like; replace **** and get back out there. Fights also seem so lopsided now. Which is what caused blob warfare.
So perhaps create invective's for gang warfare somehow?
How do you achieve this, and keep eve core "values" the same? I have no idea.
Granted some people just dont like pvp, and you'll never really change their minds rather you have to give them a positive experience. Even then some will never like it.
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Judge Ment
BOOM BOOM POW
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Posted - 2011.08.17 04:27:00 -
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Remove capital ships and jump bridges. add incentive and you might be able to awake some pirate corps in low sec! who want to camp the gates. that is the only way you can bring people there..
Incentive equals = Reward Reward = ISK ------------------------------------- We judge others by actions We judge ourselves by intentions. |
Ryhss
Caldari The Excecutorans
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Posted - 2011.08.17 05:29:00 -
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Originally by: Efraya
Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz
heres where its at in order of fun:
High sec Wormhole Low sec Null sec
We live in a sandbox, fun is what you make it.
People have fun trading. They have fun mining. "Fun" is relative.
Right so let the null sec crowd play in null, lo sec fans in lo and leave us hi sec people alone! It's our sandbox too! There is no "wrong way" to play.
Originally by: Kaethe Kollwitz null sec sucks dongs.
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Aldarica
Spinal Discipline
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Posted - 2011.08.17 08:19:00 -
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One simple reason why highsec is far more popular than 0.0 is fun factor (yep, 0.0 is no fun for most of the players)... only way to move people to 0.0 is by making it more attractive and casual friendly. Which is not going to happen, I'm afraid.
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Chimera Ur
Nibado Inc
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Posted - 2011.08.17 08:23:00 -
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Originally by: Johnny Dexter
Originally by: Ryhss
Originally by: Dub Step No one is forcing you to low sec.
CCP is trying to......
Well yes, the entire design was to have high sec as a training ground before everyone move out to 0.0 for the "end game". Yet, 80% of the playerbase decide they'd rather do PvE - an absolute ****ing chore in EVE - for money they will realistically never put into good use because they don't lose any ships.
I'm quite puzzled actually, if you're not interested in player conflict then why not play something like WoW that is a PvE game through and through, with great quest content all the way from level 1 to 85, raids etc.
WoW doesn't have spaceships :) . |
Kogh Ayon
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Posted - 2011.08.17 08:27:00 -
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Get more people in the low-sec first
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Jack bubu
GK inc. Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.08.17 08:42:00 -
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Where do get ppl the idea that ccp is forcing them to nullsec?
decreasing highsec profitability surely isnt forcing anyone to move anywhere
big boys get the cookies, deal with it
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Shazi Mavox
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Posted - 2011.08.17 08:55:00 -
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By reading this thread, the answer to the OPs question is obvious. To move more players into nullsec you have to nerf alliances/corps and give solo players a shot at doing something worthwhile out there. One way to do this would be to create more versatile ships so that a solo player isn't forced to switch ships or bring an alt or friend to feel somewhat secure doing what he wants in nullsec. Alliances should be able to stop large-scaled operations in "their" space, but should have a lot more trouble stopping solo players and smaller gangs from running missions / mining / whatever
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