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Lucious Pain
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Posted - 2011.08.17 06:38:00 -
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Tell me something dorklords , whats a good setup (that can stand on its own feet when AFK) against supercaps and fighter bombers. I have a Gallente large. Basically heaps of ECM, sensor damps, mixed medium and small gun batteries, medium and small blasters guarding each battery group, obviously scram and disrupt. This is complimented with ball loads of torp and missile batteries. 3 super caps decimated the entire thing in what seemed like 30 mins. I thought of putting out more smalls, but I am not always on to defend it. Obviously they have a RR / energy chain and are immune to ECM.... Any advice?
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dontkillme Taron
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Posted - 2011.08.17 06:57:00 -
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i got some advice....
stop being a **** eyes
end of advice
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Lucious Pain
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Posted - 2011.08.17 07:04:00 -
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Edited by: Lucious Pain on 17/08/2011 07:04:51 dont lose an eye when you speak to someone that has **** eyes, like this guy did. Argg matey!
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ChromeStriker
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Posted - 2011.08.17 07:18:00 -
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i call troll - Nulla Curas |
Smodab Ongalot
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.18 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Smodab Ongalot on 18/08/2011 17:51:25 There is nothing you can do to defend a POS against supers without having gunners.
Even with gunners, it can be a crap shoot, depending on the number of supers.
With no gunners, the pos will cycle targets and never shoot one thing long enough to do any good.
With gunners, the best you could hope for is to try to neut out the reps while applying DPS. This used to work with a sieged dread, because it can't be remote rep'd while in cycle, but with supers this isn't true. If the attacker has more capacitor support than you have neutage, you will never break them.
As is so often the case with supers, the counter is more supers.
edit: just occured to me.. Can POS disrupters even point a super? I would guess not, in which case even if you did manage to start hurting one, they could just warp off.
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Feligast on 18/08/2011 18:33:45
Originally by: Smodab Ongalot edit: just occured to me.. Can POS disrupters even point a super? I would guess not, in which case even if you did manage to start hurting one, they could just warp off.
Nope, they can't. The only way to defend a POS from supers is to unanchor it, dock up, and leave it in your hangar. Or drop 2x more supercaps on them. But trying to defend with mods? There is seriously nothing you can do, even against one.
Oh, and just to add.. you're not going to break a super's tank with POS mods, no matter how much neuting you do. Even just one there, you won't break it. The thing has millions of EHP, you can't put out enough damage.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.18 18:59:00 -
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Someone trying to take your lowsec moon bro?
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.18 19:27:00 -
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If somebody with supers wants your moon goo there isn't a whole lot you can do unless you have more supers than they do.
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Darirol
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Posted - 2011.08.18 22:16:00 -
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Edited by: Darirol on 18/08/2011 22:24:18 there is a way how to defend a pos vs supers.
use a caldari pos (has the most shield hp) and put 17 shield hardner online.
that makes 50 mio shield hp with 77% resis on everything. that makes about 220 mio shield ehp which means 150 mio dmg have to be done to reinforce this pos.
doing this with lets say 50 supercarriers it would take a hour. that is a real pain in the ass and i can promiss you the will never ever atack such a pos again with supers only.
you need a full close range battleship fleet or titans/dreads to kill such a pos
ps and you still have cpu/powergrid for moonharvester and silos |
steave435
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.08.19 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Darirol Edited by: Darirol on 18/08/2011 22:24:18 there is a way how to defend a pos vs supers.
use a caldari pos (has the most shield hp) and put 17 shield hardner online.
that makes 50 mio shield hp with 77% resis on everything. that makes about 220 mio shield ehp which means 150 mio dmg have to be done to reinforce this pos.
doing this with lets say 50 supercarriers it would take a hour. that is a real pain in the ass and i can promiss you the will never ever atack such a pos again with supers only.
you need a full close range battleship fleet or titans/dreads to kill such a pos
ps and you still have cpu/powergrid for moonharvester and silos
Supers can only use sentries on a POS due to the forcefield, doing about the damage of a BS.
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Lucious Pain
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Posted - 2011.08.19 12:39:00 -
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Thanks all, I pretty much was under that impression, but had never been attacked by all super caps before. I got attacked setting up the POS and was alone manning guns, which was pointless, as the fight bomber swarm was killing them in 30 seconds each. First thing I did when all guns were dead was anchor crap tons of shield arrays, and after 10 hours the BS / dread squad got sick of shooting it and left. P.S - healing truck loads of incapacitated guns is a royal pain in the armpit, never had this problem in my cozy C3 wormhole. LOL. I am a pirate, shed no tears for me
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Theodoric Darkwind
Gallente PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.19 20:08:00 -
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Good to hear you were able to defend it.
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Darirol
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Posted - 2011.08.21 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: Darirol on 21/08/2011 21:20:51
Originally by: steave435
Originally by: Darirol Edited by: Darirol on 18/08/2011 22:24:18 there is a way how to defend a pos vs supers.
Supers can only use sentries on a POS due to the forcefield, doing about the damage of a BS.
i know, but still ...
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10471575
people roam around with supers and engage large pos. but they will never do this against a pos with shield hardners, because it is just stupid.
edit: ok they had some titans which adds good dmg to the tower, but 150 mio ehp would still take more then a half hour
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Soldarius
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.08.22 06:31:00 -
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Resistance is futile.
"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage missiles." - The Scriptures, Book II, Apocalypse 10:1 amended
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steave435
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.08.22 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Darirol Edited by: Darirol on 21/08/2011 21:20:51
Originally by: steave435
Originally by: Darirol Edited by: Darirol on 18/08/2011 22:24:18 there is a way how to defend a pos vs supers.
Supers can only use sentries on a POS due to the forcefield, doing about the damage of a BS.
i know, but still ...
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10471575
people roam around with supers and engage large pos. but they will never do this against a pos with shield hardners, because it is just stupid.
edit: ok they had some titans which adds good dmg to the tower, but 150 mio ehp would still take more then a half hour
The SCs were using fighter bombers, which means the tower was not online, either due to going offline after running out of fuel or they killed it while it was onlining. Either way, it would be impossible to have any hardeners (or any other mod for that matter) online during that time. SCs can help incap mods when attacking a tower, but except for that, they're pretty useless if it's online.
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