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Ivan VII
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Posted - 2005.03.01 17:34:00 -
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I used to live a reletively normal life in Molden Heath as a Merc Preying on players with wanted levels with my corp mates.
Then one day we attacked a bounty and we ended up in a war with an alliance, remember that we were a 70 member corp at the time and the alliance was arould 300 members, So as you can imagine we were a bit out numbered so after losing several ships we ended up coming to agree to some terms to end the war which we agreed to, which were basically we couldn't enter the low sec space of Molden Heath and attack them for their bounties, but we were able to access our agents and equiptment
Now here is the twist once the war was over and the terms were agreed we started going to molden heath to use our agents etc which was fully within the agreed terms, But usra'kahn tried to change the terms and say we cant use our agents in Molden and the whole reigion is off limits. Obvioulsy we told them to stick it where the sun dont shine and stuck to the terms that ended the war.
Recently they have been in heimitar region and are also saying that being there is breaching the terms, So as of last night they had declared war on us again so now they are making our corps playing experience a missery. if I could swear here i would.
Ushra'Kahn are a bunch of wannabe pirates that think they can control empire space and dictate who can and who cant enter.
Ivan Out
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Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2005.03.01 18:06:00 -
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Edited by: Zibun Ionic on 01/03/2005 18:09:41
Players? What players? Poker players?
But anyway, you should see who you attack.. Not all with bountys are common criminals. Furthermore, some pirates(like slavers) set bountys upon common minnies!
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BigJim Beef
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Posted - 2005.03.01 18:07:00 -
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Well, i for one would like to salute the Uhsra'Khan for making Gelfiven a more pleasant place to live these past few weeks.
As for your continued war, i am remined of the old proverb, 'if you can't live in a vaccum, get out of space'.
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Tairos Hakonnus
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Posted - 2005.03.01 18:11:00 -
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Stop crying and learn some tactics.
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KhanJohn
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Posted - 2005.03.01 18:13:00 -
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Edited by: KhanJohn on 01/03/2005 18:14:59
This will be a brief transmission of the agreed terms...
[] Leave Molden Heath
[] No pirating in minmatar space
[] No slave trading, any pilot found with slaves is required to have positive minmatar standings.
Agreement was broken many times, leniancy was given, pilot's were allowed time to remove assets, High level agents are available outside of MH...
War has been redeclared till these agreements are met, when you wish to surrender new arrangements can be agreed with the Ushrakhan council...
Prepare for war...
-End Transmission-
(All Replies here on from UK members do not represent the official UK opinion or that of the ruling council...)
(UK pilots are requested not to respond to this thread)
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.03.01 18:39:00 -
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Edited by: Hakera on 01/03/2005 23:41:10
Please, Intimidator X were caught countless times pirating within Molden Heath and attacked our bretheren on many occasions. Despite warnings which went unheeded we took action to remove the pirates from Molden Heath. A most successful campaign (we obliterated them) and they agreed to terms of surrender which Khanjohn stated above. We have full chatlogs of the terms of surrender agreement agreed by both sides at the time.
Since then, they have breached the surrender agreement by returning the Molden Heath and despite us warning them which was met with insults and and words I care not to repeat here it is with regret that we are again forced to take action to ensure the safety of our bretheren as we will do with anyone caught pirating.
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Darth Revanant
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Posted - 2005.03.01 20:32:00 -
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 Originally by: Ivan VII
I used to live a reletively normal life in Molden Heath as a Merc Preying on players with wanted levels with my corp mates.
Then one day we attacked a bounty and we ended up in a war with an alliance, remember that we were a 70 member corp at the time and the alliance was arould 300 members, So as you can imagine we were a bit out numbered so after losing several ships we ended up coming to agree to some terms to end the war which we agreed to, which were basically we couldn't enter the low sec space of Molden Heath and attack them for their bounties, but we were able to access our agents and equiptment
Now here is the twist once the war was over and the terms were agreed we started going to molden heath to use our agents etc which was fully within the agreed terms, But usra'kahn tried to change the terms and say we cant use our agents in Molden and the whole reigion is off limits. Obvioulsy we told them to stick it where the sun dont shine and stuck to the terms that ended the war.
Recently they have been in heimitar region and are also saying that being there is breaching the terms, So as of last night they had declared war on us again so now they are making our corps playing experience a missery. if I could swear here i would.
Ushra'Kahn are a bunch of wannabe pirates that think they can control empire space and dictate who can and who cant enter.
Ivan Out
I am in a less than 70 pilot corp and we're doing just fine against the terrorist scum. You are obviously a poor excuse for a pirate and the terrorists decided to clean you out of matari space. Apparently they are learning from observing the CVA. My advice would be to either stop your poor attemps at piracy or leave empire space altogether. You certainly won't have any more luck in amarr space.
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Tyrrax Thorrk
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Posted - 2005.03.01 21:12:00 -
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Why would you make a post like this ? Glutton for punishment ? 
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Nero Scuro
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Posted - 2005.03.01 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Nero Scuro on 01/03/2005 22:06:07
Originally by: Zibun Ionic
Edited by: Zibun Ionic on 01/03/2005 18:09:41
Players? What players? Poker players?
But anyway, you should see who you attack.. Not all with bountys are common criminals. Furthermore, some pirates(like slavers) set bountys upon common minnies!
You can only put bounties on pirates with a security status of -1 or lower. You get a security status of -1 or lower through piracy. Bounty hunting is a completely legitimate career, and is not piracy.
But really, citizen, what did you expect from Minmatar? They are barely civilized savages - I'd be surprised if they could read at all, nevermind follow a law-binding treaty. And that they were Ushra'Khan to boot... Well, every good citizen knows that the Ushra'Khan are nothing but common pirates and thugs. Their only redeeming feature is that they are kill Amarrians, which are an even more vile species - NO! THE most vile!
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Darius Shakor
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Posted - 2005.03.02 00:02:00 -
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You can only put bounties on pirates with a security status of -1 or lower. You get a security status of -1 or lower through piracy. Bounty hunting is a completely legitimate career, and is not piracy.
You are not privy to all the facts of the original deed. They attacked Ushra'Khan pilot, Eddie Gordo. A quick scan of his information should tell you all you need to knoe about his security status. if this man looks like a pirate then you look liek my pet Fedo.
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They are barely civilized savages - I'd be surprised if they could read at all, nevermind follow a law-binding treaty.
First of all, not all Ushra'Khan pilots are Minmatar. Ushra'Khan is a way of life, not a creed. Secondly, that law-binding treaty was not broken by us, it was broken by Int.X, as Hakera has alreayd told you.
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Their only redeeming feature is that they are kill Amarrians, which are an even more vile species - NO! THE most vile!
I guess we can agree on this this, but only just. There are also Amarr in our ranks too. The only thing more vile to me than the Amarr is the practice of slavery. That is what we are fighting against after all. But I am sure I have made this clear to you in other threads.
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2005.03.02 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ivan VII
But usra'kahn tried to change the terms and say we cant use our agents in Molden and the whole reigion is off limits.
They were the original terms you agreed too. If you wish me to post full chat logs for all to see, I am more than happy. We kept our previous war off the summit so as not to embarass you and spoil any reputation you may have, I'm not sure if you made the best move by going public
Instas??
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.03.02 01:48:00 -
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You Ivan VII and your so called corp are not mercs. You are pirates and griefers. You have been caught preying on mining convoys and transports. Your interest in Starkiller's bounty was out of pure greed and not out of justification for the better good.
Your lies and lack of honour to uphold a simple agreement sickens me. No wonder Xetric turned you away.
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Gaven Lok'ri
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Posted - 2005.03.02 02:44:00 -
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Edited by: Gaven Lok'ri on 02/03/2005 02:44:24
Gaven grins
It is impessive... your post seems to have annoyed everyone except our good Blaster Target Nero.
Thats an excellent sign as everyone knows Nero always picks the winning side.
Gaven laughs
As for the situation here... I wish you luck. The Ushra'Khan are terrorists and rotten through and through... but they know how to fight with the best of them, which I dont think your organisation quite qualifies as. And as you 'are' Pirates... in this case I dont think I feel that the old maxim 'The Enemy of my Enemy is my friend' applies at all.
From my experience you pirate types tend to not understand any combat that involves even to adverse odds. The minnies on the other hand are quite good even with the odds against them in small scale engagements... and can hold their own in large scale engagements.
I think you should surrender and agree to their terms.
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Al Haquis
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Posted - 2005.03.02 03:16:00 -
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Ushra'Kahn are a bunch of wannabe pirates that can control empire space and dictate who can and who cant enter.
Totally agree.
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.03.02 03:56:00 -
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Thank you Ivan for the compliment of how good a job we are doing in sweeping out the trash. By the way, does VII indicate your clone number?
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Hellcore
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Posted - 2005.03.02 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ivan VII
I used to live a reletively normal life in Molden Heath as a Merc Preying on players with wanted levels with my corp mates.
Mercenaries? Is that what they are calling pirates these days?
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Jaketh Ivanes
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Posted - 2005.03.02 10:08:00 -
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Jaketh laughs heartly
The old amarrian phrase 'This is a hound-eats-hound world' seems to fit this situation well.
I'm glad that God placed us Amarrians to educate you all in how to be civilized. Otherwise there would be no hounds left.
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Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2005.03.02 10:51:00 -
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Originally by: Nero Scuro
Edited by: Nero Scuro on 01/03/2005 22:06:07
Originally by: Zibun Ionic
Edited by: Zibun Ionic on 01/03/2005 18:09:41
Players? What players? Poker players?
But anyway, you should see who you attack.. Not all with bountys are common criminals. Furthermore, some pirates(like slavers) set bountys upon common minnies!
You can only put bounties on pirates with a security status of -1 or lower. You get a security status of -1 or lower through piracy. Bounty hunting is a completely legitimate career, and is not piracy.
But really, citizen, what did you expect from Minmatar? They are barely civilized savages - I'd be surprised if they could read at all, nevermind follow a law-binding treaty. And that they were Ushra'Khan to boot... Well, every good citizen knows that the Ushra'Khan are nothing but common pirates and thugs. Their only redeeming feature is that they are kill Amarrians, which are an even more vile species - NO! THE most vile!
I have redeemed myself in the eyes of concord thankyou very much...
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Sarkos
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Posted - 2005.03.02 12:15:00 -
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I believe this is a good, and validated example of how Ushra'Khan works to keep Minmatar space free of gankers and pirates. Let those who have not crossed our paths yet learn from the errors of Ivan VII's error. If you are pirates or gankers, leave Minmatar space now. We will show no mercy.
Sarkos
PS: Amamake is looking very nice for an extended outing.
Either free the slaves or we will come and get them.
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Zibun Ionic
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Posted - 2005.03.02 13:47:00 -
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Edited by: Zibun Ionic on 02/03/2005 13:51:49
Is there point in this thread? I've heard from many sources(not only UK sources) that many of Int X are pirates.
So why you trying to deny this? If you want to be in Molden Heath why you just develop some good tactics and quit whining.
Many UK members have negative sec rate, some of them may even be pirates(especially when looked from amarrian point of view).. So what? Stop whining you poor bastards.
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Kindakrof
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Posted - 2005.03.02 14:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kindakrof on 02/03/2005 14:03:41
You Ushra guys just dont get this game. Yes... We have pirated a few times and we have ganked. But its all a part of 0.4 and down. Personally i have only ganked for experience on my way to become an assasin like our corp aims to be.
Ushra'Khan didnt do so well against me in that war but some players,who lack experience or lag or whatever you wish to call it, got killed/podded quite a few times. One heron aint much for me to lose but i'm not gonna brag more about my part in that war.
I can't call you good fighters... i can't because i've only seen you 3-10 vs. one. But you might be good, you just have to show it to me 
Now for the terms you set.
We were told to stick out of Molden Heath low security systems and that we could use agents there and do trades.
Then while running missions there i get those terms stated somewhere above. And i hear suddenly that war on Ushra'Khan is beginning because we broke the terms. And then i hear about you assisting (Shield & cap boosting) Friggin' masters who are desperately losing their war agianst us.
I must say that you are a two-faced alliance.
Originally by: AsheRaven
You are pirates and griefers.
I prefer assasins in training.
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Archbishop
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Posted - 2005.03.02 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: Archbishop on 02/03/2005 14:07:00
As there appears to be some dispute regarding the orignial terms of their treaty with the UshraKhan relating to the right to use agents in the area perhaps the chatlogs could be posted for all to see. Likewise if it was allowed to use agents but further crimes if piracy occured posting those crimes would justify a "modification" of the treaty banning agent use.
Pirates are a scourge upon all the peaceful inhabitants of space. They destroy commerce, ships, peace. Perhaps the Minmatar while misguided in some affairs have found the truth in piracy in this case. Perhaps their actions here are honorable.
While I believe the terrorists of UshraKhan are treacherous in their dealings with Amarr I do believe they are an honorable enemy who will do what is right by innocent space travelers.
As it appears they aren't at the time attacking positive Amarr standing innocents I also agree with Sarkos that calling them pirates is a clear falsehood. Perhaps this is a case of the "pot calling the kettle black" (old ancient proverb). Perhaps the pirates are upset because someone decided to shoot BACK?
I call on all honest citizens to stop piracy where it stands.
Archbishop
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Carinae
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Posted - 2005.03.02 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Kindakrof
Edited by: Kindakrof on 02/03/2005 14:03:41
You Ushra guys just dont get this game. Yes... We have pirated a few times and we have ganked. But its all a part of 0.4 and down.
Perhaps it is you that does not 'get' this game, you are pirates and we do not want your within the borders which we have the right to protect.
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AsheRaven
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Posted - 2005.03.02 14:47:00 -
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Originally by: Kindakrof
Edited by: Kindakrof on 02/03/2005 14:03:41
You Ushra guys just dont get this game. Yes... We have pirated a few times and we have ganked. But its all a part of 0.4 and down. Personally i have only ganked for experience on my way to become an assasin like our corp aims to be.
Well at leastyouadmit to your crimes. There by our war on you is justified, but your own words.
I thnk the topic is now closed, thanks for confirming thatyour corp are pirates as well as poor liars
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.03.02 15:50:00 -
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As earlier stated by Khanjohn, these are the terms. They have always been the terms. Comply with the terms and you may live in peace.
[] Leave Molden Heath
[] No pirating in minmatar space
[] No slave trading, any pilot found with slaves is required to have positive minmatar standings.
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Alasse Cuthalion
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Posted - 2005.03.02 16:03:00 -
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Edited by: Alasse Cuthalion on 02/03/2005 16:41:14
Commander Cuthalion strode across the bridge of the Raven class [S.B.S] Nuuruhuine barely containg a look of both anger and confusion...
"... when? just when will 'intimidator.x' learn? We tried to teach them the error of their ways did we not?"
As the proud Deteis commander sat down in the command chair she pondered...
"Why must they complain so much? Surely they must realise it's not like they're being hunted by the entire alliance? Our continued fight for freedom, for all, must continue in the face of these pirate purging operations, at best only twenty or so of our pod-pilots are actively involved in operation "Scourge", perhaps they should at least try and live up to their name instead of bleating, have they NO honour?"
Alasse stood up intently and barked at the sub-Lieutentant at her side
"Order the station master to load more more Paradise cruise missiles in to the hold, we're going hunting!"
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MissileMan
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Posted - 2005.03.02 16:03:00 -
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Well i dont believe they are the original terms those are wat u want them to be. I also believe that some of your fellow members have said we aren't allowed in Heimitar region either. Also how can you dictate where we can and can't go its empire space not free space like curse and stain. You should go and play with a real alliance like Stain or FIX not try and be big and hard in empire. To be honest I think you are abuch of cowards that can't deal with real Pvp u have to attack single corps with owverwelming numbers so u are guaranteed victory.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.03.02 16:12:00 -
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Maggot looked up at the hologram showing the fleet size for each of the enemies in the Ushra'Khan's six existing Concord approved wars. The numbers were evenly balanced as far as he was concerned, even though Ushra'khan were outnumbered. |
Eddie Gordo
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Posted - 2005.03.02 16:14:00 -
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Edited by: Eddie Gordo on 02/03/2005 16:35:45
having odd bug atm, first section came out blank. now I cant edit it.
Basicly its a convo with iron jaw, and goes into a little more detail.
More of the same, and is prior to the official surrender.
As for accusations of only attacking small corps....
We are at war with :
An alliance of 200+
A corp of 60+
One of 40+
A corp of ten
And finally you guys. Another corp of around 50.
This thread is VERY ooc. suggest it gets moved to the coporations and alliances summit.
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"Th'Orn > yo Eddie
Th'Orn > hows it going
Eddie Gordo > not too bad.
Eddie Gordo > hung over :p
Th'Orn > lol
Th'Orn > same he
Eddie Gordo > Has Iron informed you of the terms?
Th'Orn > kind of
Th'Orn > lay it down for me an il tell u what i think
Eddie Gordo > ok, well this war was declared to move you on, not to destroy your corp. we would like you to leave molden heath.
Eddie Gordo > I understand that you need minmatar agents
Th'Orn > aye
Eddie Gordo > and its unrealistic to move you from all minmatar space
Eddie Gordo > so I sugges somewhere like amamake, as it has good lvl4 agents.
Eddie Gordo > in bullet point form :
Eddie Gordo > * leave molden heath
Eddie Gordo > * dont pirate in minmatar space
Eddie Gordo > * dont get caught carrying slaves (without high minmatar standings to prove you rescued them (we are a roleplay alliance)
Eddie Gordo > * oh and dont fire on any of our pilots....even if they have bounties or a low sec status...
Th'Orn > ok how about this, Intimidator X will forgo claim to the molden heath area, we will agree to remove ourselves from the region in any noticeble consilidatory Force, my members will refrain from patrolling the low sec systems of Atlar etc, either for pira...
Th'Orn > ..pirating or trainin purposes
Th'Orn > our members will refrain from acting hostiley to U'K members
Eddie Gordo > we do not want you in mh full stop. any kind of military force there will not be welcome.
Th'Orn > we will to all intents an purposes operate from another region
Eddie Gordo > there are rarely pirates in the atlar area now anyway
Eddie Gordo > we see to that
Th'Orn > we reserve the right for members travellin alone to visit there assets
Th'Orn > we wil not move in squads or anythin which could be construed as hostile action
Eddie Gordo > single pilots collecting assets is fine, and we expect to see the odd ships moving about for a few days after we undeclare.
[------- It has been more than a few days since the war dec now, a perfectly reasnoble amount of time to move out. ---------]
Th'Orn > agreed
Th'Orn > terms sound ok eddie
Eddie Gordo > just please, dont come to low sec mh full stop. thats the most important one.
Th'Orn > agreed
Th'Orn > so ?
Eddie Gordo > I will inform the other ceos/directors in the alliance then. and get this war undeclared. as I said to iron, its hard to get people to stop shooting when the war is still on, I will do my best to stop people comming to your new area. in an alliance of...
Eddie Gordo > this size it takes time for eveyone to know the score
Eddie Gordo > so undeclare is the only safe way to make sure you dont get shot at
Th'Orn > yeah thats fine eddie
Th'Orn > sound m8
Th'Orn >
Th'Orn > eta on undeclare
Eddie Gordo > well the ceo of the executor corp is not online, but by tuesday at the latest.
Eddie Gordo > and hopefully tomorrow
Th'Orn > ok thanks eddie
Th'Orn > il let u get bak to whatever u were doing
Th'Orn > take it easy m8" |
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Posted - 2005.03.02 17:00:00 -
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Edited by: Matt Ivresse on 02/03/2005 17:06:07
Originally by: Ivan VII
I still would like to have a definition of pirates. because i think and in the gameplay it is "those mebers with a negative security status/wanted level and bounty" so if a player wants to get himself a negative security status and a bounty on his head that it their fault and should expect to be punished for the crimes they have committed or ppl they have annoyed.
Then you are obviously as daft as a toilet brush...
I have a -1.7 sec rating, yet I am a race-organiser, not a pirate. You want to know why I got so low a sec rating?
I was taking part in a frigate battle-contest set in 0.1 space (ever heard of Eve-radio's Friday Night Fight?). Our side, which was ganged, won the contest. However, one of our so-called 'gangmates' promptly opened fire on two of the opposing team's pods, illegally and without any provocation.
Two contestants lives died that night. Did I fire on those pods? No I did not. However, as I was ganged with this idiot that podded those two pilots, Concord's 'Guilty By Association' rule struck my Security rating hard and I dropped to -1.9 security. If it wasn't for the actions of the organiser's security, I wouldn't have been able to enter my HQ ever again.
Now then, would you classify me as a pirate? I have done nothing to prove that I am. But would you kill me simply for having a negative security rating without even finding out if I was a pirate or not?
Clearly, given your overwhelming sense of arrogance and lack of strategic intelligence proven here today, you would...
Originally by: Kindakrof
I prefer assasins in training.
You're obviously not very well-trained then, from what I see here...
EDIT: whoops, wrong quote, sorry kindakrof...
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