Pages: [1] :: one page |
|
Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |
Koujjo Dian
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.09.01 22:02:00 -
[1]
As I keep stating in all my posts my eventual plan is to PvP but atm my skills are really low and I'm currently training PI skills to someday finance my massive failures. So everyday I log on, fine tune my planets, adjust my skill que and the log off again :(. Needless to say I'm getting bored and not really learning anything.
So I got this idea that I could take a CHEAP ship such as an executioner and practice traveling through low sec and learning how to make safe spots and how to avoid gate camps ect ect. Any recommendations on how to fit this ship? Do I need a cloaking device? Do I need a warp core stabilizer? or two? Understand I have no intention in actually attacking anything so keep that in mind. Thanks.
|
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
|
Posted - 2011.09.01 22:06:00 -
[2]
Fit two nanofibers in the low-slots and a Microwarpdrive in the mid.
The nanos will allow you to align so fast that [almost] nothing can catch you in low-sec. The MWD is there for burning around different areas quickly and making safespots (remember, you have to be more than 150km from a safespot to warp to it). _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Koujjo Dian
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.09.01 22:17:00 -
[3]
What happens if I jump through a gate and there's a warp bubble on the other side? Do I crawl back to the gate? Will I be fast enough?
|
gfldex
|
Posted - 2011.09.01 22:26:00 -
[4]
There are no bubbles in lowsec. -- IF YOU PLAY WITH SONY YOU PLAY WITH ******! |
Imustbecomfused
Close Proximity
|
Posted - 2011.09.01 23:19:00 -
[5]
Originally by: ShahFluffers Fit two nanofibers in the low-slots and a Microwarpdrive in the mid.
The nanos will allow you to align so fast that [almost] nothing can catch you in low-sec. The MWD is there for burning around different areas quickly and making safespots (remember, you have to be more than 150km from a safespot to warp to it).
I second this...
|
Koujjo Dian
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 00:17:00 -
[6]
Originally by: gfldex There are no bubbles in lowsec.
Ah ok thanks.
|
Toshiro GreyHawk
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 05:12:00 -
[7]
Here's some previous threads on Lo Sec. The first is a guide, the rest are just discussions but there's some good information in them.
Kessiaan's Lowsec Survival Guide for Rookies
Why Lo Sec
Lo Sec
Low sec mission running and deadspace
. Orbiting vs. Kiting Career Agents
|
Tuscor
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 05:27:00 -
[8]
Seriously - buy a cheap rifter or punisher, fit it out with T1 mods, make sure your clone is up to date and go and practice some pvp!
Its great fun - assume you will die a lot, and just do it! The ships cost next to nothing (maybe 500,000 ISK each) and you learn a lot.
I'm a noob myself, just clicked over 5 mil SP, - one of my most fun and memorable fights was where I was chased to a planet by two other noobs (2 mil SP each) in a punisher and incusus (I think). We tore into eachother, and the fight ended in my favour, with me in deep structure. It was awesome.
I dont understand why you would log on just to update skills when you can have fun and learn at the same time, even with low skills.
|
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 05:57:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Koujjo Dian What happens if I jump through a gate and there's a warp bubble on the other side? Do I crawl back to the gate? Will I be fast enough?
Bubbles only exist out in 0.0 to -1.0 space. And yes, if you do find that you have jumped into a bubble camp, that is EXACTLY what you do using your MWD (Microwarpdrive). _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Koujjo Dian
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 13:16:00 -
[10]
Originally by: ShahFluffers
Originally by: Koujjo Dian What happens if I jump through a gate and there's a warp bubble on the other side? Do I crawl back to the gate? Will I be fast enough?
Bubbles only exist out in 0.0 to -1.0 space. And yes, if you do find that you have jumped into a bubble camp, that is EXACTLY what you do using your MWD (Microwarpdrive).
I thought MWDs didn't work when warp scrambled and bubbles warp scramble don't they?
|
|
Koujjo Dian
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 13:22:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Tuscor
I'm a noob myself, just clicked over 5 mil SP, - one of my most fun and memorable fights was where I was chased to a planet by two other noobs (2 mil SP each) in a punisher and incusus (I think). We tore into eachother, and the fight ended in my favour, with me in deep structure. It was awesome.
I dont understand why you would log on just to update skills when you can have fun and learn at the same time, even with low skills.
Well I just have over 1 mil SP. I'd like to get a few more skills under my belt first. Plus my PI is just now starting to make a profit so I want to build up some war funds first.
|
foksieloy
Minmatar Rockets ponies and rainbows
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 13:23:00 -
[12]
Edited by: foksieloy on 02/09/2011 13:25:33
Originally by: Koujjo Dian I thought MWDs didn't work when warp scrambled and bubbles warp scramble don't they?
There is a conflict of terms here.
There are 3 modules that can do interdiction: warp disruptors (so called disrupts), warp scramblers (so called scrams), warp field generators (so called bubbles).
Now, warp disruptors and warp scramblers require you to be targeted and in range (24km non overheated for T2 disrupt, and 10km non overheated for t2 scram). Warp field generators (either deployable in the form of disrupt probes by interdictors, moving with the ship (HIC) or anchored in space as mobile warp disruptors) stop anyone, friend of foe, within their radius.
Disrupts have a "warp disruptions strength" of 1. Meaning that a single warp core stab, stops a single disruptor. Scrams have a "warp disruptions strength" of 2. Additionally they stop your MWD from working. They will stop it from working even if your warp core strength is higher than 2 (aka, you can warp off but you still cannot MWD). Bubbles have an infinitive "warp disruption strength", meaning you are stuck, unless you have a interdiction nullifier T3 subsystem. That subsystem does not help against disruptors and scrams.
Does this help?
EDIT: additionally the disrupts and scrams can be referred to as "points". So "having a point on someone" means you are warp disrupting him. This terminology is much more often used for warp disruptors than for scrams. _______________________ The best thing in EvE is Barrage M. |
Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 14:33:00 -
[13]
Low security space is not nearly as scary and mysterious once you have zipped around in it for while in ships that cannot easily be caught.
Grab a shuttle, go to DOTLAN and find some low security in your area that looks relatively calm, such as less than a dozen kills in a twenty four hour period.
Hop back into game, check the starmap to verify there are no active gangs operating there in the past hour or so; use the statistics tab to check said information for a particular solar system or in this case possibly even the entire pipe or constellation.
Anyways, even most of this is going to be unncessary to a degree if all you want to do is pass through low security and get a feel for what is out there, i.e. seeing hostiles at a gate fighting, or seeing wrecks of various ship types, or seeing local counts, and learning how to use your directional while inbound, or setting up tactical bookmarks off gates that are not in line with other celestial bodies, etc. etc. list goes on.
Hop in that shuttle, making sure you have an update to date clone and are not using implants you can't do without (just in case!), and go zip around in low security!
Don't linger at gates if you don't want to, dock up if you just wanna sit around and absorb it all, or just have some fun. What's the worst that could happen, you lose a 10k shuttle, an empty clone, and have to pay to upgrade a new one? If you are a newer player this will be a few million ISK at best, chump change in the grand scheme of things, trust me...
__________________________________________________ ...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the apocalypse, i.e. The Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 20:10:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Koujjo Dian
Originally by: ShahFluffers
Originally by: Koujjo Dian What happens if I jump through a gate and there's a warp bubble on the other side? Do I crawl back to the gate? Will I be fast enough?
Bubbles only exist out in 0.0 to -1.0 space. And yes, if you do find that you have jumped into a bubble camp, that is EXACTLY what you do using your MWD (Microwarpdrive).
I thought MWDs didn't work when warp scrambled and bubbles warp scramble don't they?
Think of Warp bubbles as an Area of Effect Warp Disruptor that cannot be countered with Warp Core Stabs.
The only thing that can shut down your MWD is a Warp Scrambler... and that requires someone to have both locked you and be <10km of your ship (the exceptions to that last part are the Proteus, Lachesis, and Arazu). _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Koujjo Dian
Amarr
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 21:23:00 -
[15]
Thanks for all the info. After going back through and redoing my overview settings and re-familiarizing myself with D-scan I took my little executioner to a nearby 0.4 system. Really anti climatic however but I did cruise around the system making safe spots near every gate and one in the middle of the system just in case. Really all I wanted to do anyway I guess.
One thing did happen however that kinda strikes me as odd now that I think about it. Upon entering the system I immediately saw a Vengence on my scanner. I thought "oh he's waiting to prey upon someone just like me" and so I wasted no time warping out of there. But now thinking back about it, wouldn't he have been killed by the gate guns if he attacked anyone by the gate? Can a T2 frigate tank gate guns?
|
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
|
Posted - 2011.09.02 22:28:00 -
[16]
Edited by: ShahFluffers on 02/09/2011 22:31:13
Originally by: Koujjo Dian Can a T2 frigate tank gate guns?
Assault frigs might be able to hold out for a small bit (provided they have SOME buffer)... but generally won't last longer than 20 seconds without a logistics ship nearby (and that's being generous). Anything other frigate will find itself one or two-shotted.
Also... here's a good rule of thumb to follow when dealing with people in low-sec; "if it takes too much effort to kill you and you are not a smacktalking prick or flying something expensive, you're pretty safe."
So to go down the list: - Your Executioner is fast and mobile. Unless you make a mistake they are going to need interceptors (which can't tank gate-guns) or ships with interceptor-like targeting speed (which requires refitting a ship or two and sacrificing some "utility"). - You are in a T1 frig... which is cheap and doesn't make for good bragging rights. Ergo, it's not worth perusing across systems. - If you "stand still" long enough people WILL take a pot-shot "just to see what happens." _______________________
"Just because I seem like an idiot doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
|
|
|
Pages: [1] :: one page |
First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |