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morrosis
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Posted - 2011.09.02 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: morrosis on 02/09/2011 11:19:00 The story I have just started in ship construction making Apoc's, I have a 50-20 Apoc bpo that is worth 1.2 billion. I already have 1 in the ship yard and another one in my assets I can knock them out in 3 hours 4 minutes. You may have noticed some of my threads around looking for ore and I already have ore coming in from different people enough to make 10 Apocs.
How am I building these ships? Pos with 3 different size ship yards, 3 different ammo yards among other things, I've only just started in ships thus never needed a larger hauler then my Itty V to make the trips.
Only getting ore from other people ? No, my <insert what ever holy persons name here> no, I was and still am a full time miner (When the wife is off my back), I mine in a Hulk with tech 2 strip, tech 2 crystals, tech 2 drones.
What's it for? I need a ship big enough to haul the apoc's to market and still take the family to the pub on a weekend, without buying two ships, I need the Obelisk! The standard price for a Obelisk is around 800 mil, thus the loan.
What's in return 800mil + 20% in 1 month
How many people? I would like a single person for the loan to send the isk to Morrosis, I do understand that this is not always possible and I will loan smaller amount from other people, no less then 200mil.
tldr; You send me 800mil, I send you 800mil +20% in 30 day's, this maybe even less it may only take me 20 days to pay you back maybe even less.
If you would like more info please ask.
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Junnichi Asakura
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Posted - 2011.09.02 11:19:00 -
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Fire me a mail in game and i'll send the 800m back once i'm online this evening.
Cheers JA
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Gatan Hahran
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Posted - 2011.09.02 13:02:00 -
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Hello morrosis.
As someone who thought about getting into the ship building business himself but got away from it before it started, i was really interested to see if things have changed. So i just checked the Jita average for both materials and Apoc hull, set the ME to 50, PE to 20 and noticed that you will lose 614.975 ISK per ship, not counting in POS costs or any "What i mine/buy cheap/negotiate is for free" logics. So even if you make 1 million isk profit per ship with some miracle price change, you would still need to build 960 Apocalypse in 30 days, which i think is not possible with 1 Blueprint. Not to mention the price drop this would cause. Since one person is already willing to send you isk you dont need to respond of course, but i was just curious about your business plan.
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morrosis
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Posted - 2011.09.02 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: morrosis on 02/09/2011 13:15:06
Originally by: Gatan Hahran Hello morrosis.
As someone who thought about getting into the ship building business himself but got away from it before it started, i was really interested to see if things have changed. So i just checked the Jita average for both materials and Apoc hull, set the ME to 50, PE to 20 and noticed that you will lose 614.975 ISK per ship, not counting in POS costs or any "What i mine/buy cheap/negotiate is for free" logics. So even if you make 1 million isk profit per ship with some miracle price change, you would still need to build 960 Apocalypse in 30 days, which i think is not possible with 1 Blueprint. Not to mention the price drop this would cause. Since one person is already willing to send you isk you dont need to respond of course, but i was just curious about your business plan.
1. The bpo was free 2. I do not need to pay for the pos ( alliance access) 3. I already make other ammo types wanna make money slowly sell ammo 38 isk each V.V and the bpos are 4 mil isk you do the math on that one makes you wanna cry 4. as I stated above I have enough ore to make 10 apocs already( though this is down to 8 now as I have finished more) the total cost for a single apoc for my self so far has run in at 69,707,899 isk, I am currently selling them at 86 mil isk flat 5. I do not sell on market I sell direct to the buyers I contact corps or allainces and offer them directly for a long term contract. 6. I will no be using just the cash from the apoc's to pay back this loan, it's just as I have up sized I needed to increase my companies needs.
Hope that has covered any concerns you may have had with this.
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Junnichi Asakura
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Posted - 2011.09.02 17:25:00 -
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800m investment funds sent. Glad to be doing business with you, good luck.
JA
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Gatan Hahran
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Posted - 2011.09.02 17:52:00 -
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hmm yeah, as i thought this is "what i mine for free"Ö logic applied to trading. When you buy minerals this low and can sell Apocs this high you would still profit 614.975 isk more per ship by simpy selling the minerals in Jita and buying the apocs in Jita for resell than producing the Apocs yourself. As a bonus you free 1.2 billion isk that you can make extra profit with. Good luck. |
Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.09.02 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Gatan Hahran hmm yeah, as i thought this is "what i mine for free"Ö logic applied to trading. When you buy minerals this low and can sell Apocs this high you would still profit 614.975 isk more per ship by simpy selling the minerals in Jita and buying the apocs in Jita for resell than producing the Apocs yourself. As a bonus you free 1.2 billion isk that you can make extra profit with. Good luck.
Thats something Candy Oshea taught me when i started SH4U manufacturing IPO months ago....the value of Opportunity Costs.
SH
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Junnichi Asakura
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Posted - 2011.09.05 06:36:00 -
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Probably not a suprise but this is was a scam.
800m given to Morosis, who has now deleted the post details and blocked me in game. Fortunately it was only 800m i guess and not any more!
Future investors beware!
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Johann King
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Posted - 2011.09.05 07:20:00 -
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I HAVE A 800M PROPOSAL FOR YOU SIR
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Junnichi Asakura
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Posted - 2011.09.05 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Johann King I HAVE A 800M PROPOSAL FOR YOU SIR
Sorry matey, my 'i won't miss this money small investment so worth a punt fund' is undergoing a short refinancing excerise.
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Thoraemond
Minmatar Far Ranger
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Posted - 2011.09.05 15:02:00 -
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Here's this thread on eve-search.com, for convenience.
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Karashur Tahazzar
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Posted - 2011.09.06 05:31:00 -
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I know Morrosis in RL and i knew about his little Apoc thing he wanted to get into but i dident know it was a scam, good work i guess but i think it would have been better long term if it was legit.
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Junnichi Asakura
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Posted - 2011.09.06 08:01:00 -
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Scam? Failed business idea? doesn't really matter at the end of the day. I'm 800m in internetspaceshipcredits down... which fortunately is but a drop in the ocean.
nay mind, on to the next investment opportunity!
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