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Martin Skorn
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Posted - 2011.09.05 02:26:00 -
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EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off, and they could keep MT's without much complaint. Then they can make a complete and finished expansion or two each year and charge for those individually. For example, if someone wants to opt out of Incarna they simply don't have to purchase it.
It makes sense to me, although they would need to work out the unlimited alts situation that would inevitably arise...
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Nemesis Factor
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.05 02:28:00 -
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Do we really want an inbred ****** post like this to be archived on the front page forever when these forums get frozen in carbonite? Do everyone a favor and keep your stupid mouth shut until the new forums come out. Your opinions are WRONG.
~love Nemesis ==================== ~/~ Sultan of Buruni |
Sarmatiko
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Posted - 2011.09.05 02:31:00 -
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Jumping in Jita system... Error You dont have enough Aurum on your character Peace off hobo without premium
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.09.05 02:52:00 -
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[tinfoil] Kinda wondering if the NeX store and them not giving a real **** if ppl leave wasnt their way of softening up the player base of the people that would ***** if the game DID to F2P [/tinfoil] -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |
Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr Iure Divino
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Posted - 2011.09.05 02:55:00 -
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Troll?
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.09.05 03:16:00 -
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Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor Troll?
joke? Hence the /tilfoil thing?
-------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |
Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Amarr Iure Divino
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Posted - 2011.09.05 03:27:00 -
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Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor Troll?
joke? Hence the /tilfoil thing?
Not you, the OP
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Simetraz
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Posted - 2011.09.05 04:57:00 -
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You want F2P
Buy a Plex, there you go, it won't cost you another penny.
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.09.05 05:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
Originally by: Mehrdad Kor-Azor Troll?
joke? Hence the /tilfoil thing?
Not you, the OP
oops lol my bad -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |
TharOkha
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Posted - 2011.09.05 07:26:00 -
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There should be f2p. And its already prepared. Trial account. There is only need to remove 14 day limitation and its done. f2p would have limitation in skill books, just like trial today.
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.09.05 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: TharOkha There should be f2p. And its already prepared. Trial account. There is only need to remove 14 day limitation and its done. f2p would have limitation in skill books, just like trial today.
an you pay real money to get non trial nooks... what? They do something like that in DDO and the quest buy system
and in case youre gonna accuse me of the tinfoil thing, I heard of this idea first in the "greed is good" memo ------------------------- "The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online" Petur Oskarsson - naivety of youth or is he no longer with "us"? |
TharOkha
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Posted - 2011.09.05 07:57:00 -
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Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod
Originally by: TharOkha There should be f2p. And its already prepared. Trial account. There is only need to remove 14 day limitation and its done. f2p would have limitation in skill books, just like trial today.
an you pay real money to get non trial nooks... what? They do something like that in DDO and the quest buy system
and in case youre gonna accuse me of the tinfoil thing, I heard of this idea first in the "greed is good" memo
Obviously you dont understand this whole "f2p mania". look at the WOW. They presenting F2P as "free". But its not free. Its just demoversion/trial, without time limitation. They just gave players a good feeling that they can play "for free". But its still only a demo full of limits. So i dont see a problem if CCP give us this "f2p" by the removing 14 day limit.
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.09.05 08:04:00 -
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Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 05/09/2011 08:05:31
Originally by: TharOkha
Obviously you dont understand this whole "f2p mania". look at the WOW. They presenting F2P as "free". But its not free.
when the hell did WoW say they were free to play??
-------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |
Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.09.05 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: TharOkha
Obviously you dont understand this whole "f2p mania". look at the WOW. They presenting F2P as "free". But its not free. Its just demoversion/trial, without time limitation. They just gave players a good feeling that they can play "for free". But its still only a demo full of limits. So i dont see a problem if CCP give us this "f2p" by the removing 14 day limit.
Quote: Merit driven items are locked from purchase until a player achieves a certain criteria [in game] hence having to earn the item/power and then having to pay real money to obtain it
As you either dont remember that bit from the memo or you "obviously didnt understand it", I figured Id help YOU out ------------------------- "The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online" Petur Oskarsson - naivety of youth or is he no longer with "us"? |
Igor Radmilovich
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Posted - 2011.09.05 08:45:00 -
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Because $15 a month is obviously too expensive.... Or buy a PLEX, EVE probably has one of the best subscription systems ive seen in any MMO so gtfo with F2P bull.
Right now someone can PLEX their whole way through EVE, not pay for anything ever, not even expansions. Your suggestion is sub par, and im sure would make NO sense to the rest of the community, kthx.
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Dagon Sirius
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Posted - 2011.09.05 08:57:00 -
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EVE is already a disguised F2P. Everyone with any economic understanding can make 300m+ a day without any problems to get PLEX.
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shady alt
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Posted - 2011.09.05 09:01:00 -
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hmmm F2P? I could do with 32 mining accounts and being griefed by 10 year olds. I can see it now....
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Dane El
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Posted - 2011.09.05 11:53:00 -
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FTP would kill the PLEX market for CCP. The NEX store cannot replace the demand of all the accounts running on PLEX.
I suspect you won't see it for those reasons. CCP wants it to be viable to purchase PLEX from them and then resell to other players for ISK.
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Holy One
SniggWaffe
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Posted - 2011.09.05 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Skorn EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off, and they could keep MT's without much complaint. Then they can make a complete and finished expansion or two each year and charge for those individually. For example, if someone wants to opt out of Incarna they simply don't have to purchase it.
It makes sense to me, although they would need to work out the unlimited alts situation that would inevitably arise...
Eve is free to play. You pay the first six months only. Or you're doing it wrong. BBQ makes me hungry for more... |
Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
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Posted - 2011.09.05 11:57:00 -
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I agree with everyone else - OP's suggestion is a bad idea.
We want a steady income stream for CCP so that thay can further improve Eve.
An excessive item store means an unbalenced game.
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.09.05 11:58:00 -
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Originally by: TharOkha There should be f2p. And its already prepared. Trial account. There is only need to remove 14 day limitation and its done. f2p would have limitation in skill books, just like trial today.
no cos eve would be swamped in trial hauler bots using primaes or pre rigged cargo exequrors (1800m3) fully cargo rigged/fitted
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TheReverend
Most Wanted INC White Noise.
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Posted - 2011.09.05 11:59:00 -
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EVE should be F2P. For example in game there are skils that canot be trained on trial accounts.CCP should put something like neverending trial, where you will for better skils pay with ARUM or something like that ------------------------------------------------ Plocasti materijali |
Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.09.05 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Skorn EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off
What is a lot of companies?
What is successful?
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Thornat
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Posted - 2011.09.05 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Thornat on 05/09/2011 12:50:26
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Martin Skorn EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off
What is a lot of companies?
What is successful?
DING DING DING.. Give the guy with the big lips a donut!
Ya generally speaking games that have failed miserably bail themsleves out by going free to play and hoping it will attract enough new cheap sk.. I mean players to play their game and sign up(pay) for the "extra stuff". Oddly enough this works, which is often quite confusing to me that a person is unwilling to pay 15 bucks a month for all the content the game has to offer but is happy paying 20 bucks a few times a month to get bits and pieces of the same game. Everquest 2 is one of the silliest examples. Free to play yet after you get done upgrading the game to the "full game" you get when you pay 15 bucks a month you end up spending hundreds of dollars for it. Yet its wildly popular and has literly revitalized the game to the point that the free to play servers are way more fun to play on than the subscription fee servers.
Never understood it, but it is a fact that it works.
Some examples
Dungeons and Dragons Online Everquest 2 Guild Wars Lord of The Rings
just to name a few that have been saved from definitive deaths and revitalized by free to play.
Wether these games can claim to be successful however is another story, since their is like zero information about figuires (except for EQ2 which I have experianced first hand) for all we know they are wildly successful, or horrific failures. Who knows... but if the trend is an indication than I would say, ya it seems to be very successful, otherwise no one would be doing it.
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Richard Hammond II
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Posted - 2011.09.05 12:51:00 -
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Edited by: Richard Hammond II on 05/09/2011 12:54:07
Originally by: Mr Kidd
Originally by: Martin Skorn EVE should go free to play... A lot of companies have successfully pulled it off
What is a lot of companies?
What is successful?
See DDO if you werent just trolling. It was dying, no doubt, then they went F2P, and now the DDO model is turbine's basic f2p strategy
Originally by: Thornat
Wether these games can claim to be successful however is another story, since their is like zero information about figuires
Figures --------- Fear the Hamster Long live Top Gear |
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CCP Navigator
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.05 12:56:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion.
Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online
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Prince Kobol
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Posted - 2011.09.05 13:00:00 -
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It all depends on what you consider to be successful.
As a founder of Lotro I can tell you that yes, maybe financially in the short term it has been a success for Warner Brothers.
In regards to the game itself it has been a total failure.
Since Lotro went to F2P a massive amount of "I win items" have been introduced, content releases have been poor to say in the least.
At the moment a small number of players are now demanding refunds for the up and coming Isengaurd expansion as more and more features seem to be disspearing and that number is growing, especially since WB have to refund EU players by law.
A number of there servers are damn near enough empty as most people expect a number of server merges in the coming 12 months.
So yes, whilst in the short term WB might of made a some extra money, very little littel of it has gone back into the game and players are still leaving.
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Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2011.09.05 13:22:00 -
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Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:24:22 Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:22:12 Umm, if you get 400 mil ISK a month per account, the game IS free to play already (I am aware it doesn't work like that entirely, but in effect, that's what it's achieving)
Also,
Quote: Guild Wars
has been 'free 2 play' from the creation of the game, and is simply using a different profit model. It's success had NOTHING to do with it GOING free 2 play, as it never WAS pay 2 play to begin with. ---
Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser/Assembler: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ http://gemblog.nl/assembler/
Originally by: De'Veldrin Welcome to the ****ing sandbox
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.05 13:27:00 -
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Originally by: Gemberslaafje Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:24:22 Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:22:12 Umm, if you get 400 mil ISK a month per account, the game IS free to play already (I am aware it doesn't work like that entirely, but in effect, that's what it's achieving)
Nope.
If it requires 400m isk per month, its not free to play. If the big coalitions curbstomping pretty much everyone in the search for more vital space has taugh us anything, is that ISK has real life value. ____________
Originally by: CCP Guard Nobody gets to ruin EVE but us!
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Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2011.09.05 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Renan Ruivo
Originally by: Gemberslaafje Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:24:22 Edited by: Gemberslaafje on 05/09/2011 13:22:12 Umm, if you get 400 mil ISK a month per account, the game IS free to play already (I am aware it doesn't work like that entirely, but in effect, that's what it's achieving)
Nope.
If it requires 400m isk per month, its not free to play. If the big coalitions curbstomping pretty much everyone in the search for more vital space has taugh us anything, is that ISK has real life value.
Very well. BUT, my point still stands that you don't strictly need Euro's/Dollars/Pounds/Crones to play the game. ---
Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser/Assembler: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ http://gemblog.nl/assembler/
Originally by: De'Veldrin Welcome to the ****ing sandbox
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.05 14:17:00 -
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Eve is free to play, people just refuse to acknowledge it because it doesn't meet their definition. Just like Guild wars didn't meet the perceived definition of MMO, but had well over a million players, and 5 million copies sold. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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AdZc
Caldari Legio Prima Victrix Imperius Legio Victrix
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Posted - 2011.09.05 18:10:00 -
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Confirming i have not had to pay for eve for almost 2 years now. (8 month with 2 accounts)
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.06 08:12:00 -
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After the CCP failscascade ends it will become F2P. Like any failed MMO who wants to survive. -
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steave435
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.06 08:34:00 -
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People keep claiming that CCP and EVE is failing and going to die due to loosing subscribers, and yet, at the same time, they complain about solo PVP being dead because of ever increasing blob sizes caused by the increased number of players.
It doesn't add up.
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2011.09.06 10:00:00 -
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As it was said Eve can be F2P because if you cant easily make 300 mil in a month playing casually your doing it wrong. I can casually run level 4s and make this in a few days. i can make it in a couple of days in 0.0, if im uninterupted( and can pay attention that long).
I have played F2P games from Big Point , Aeria, LOTRO, ETC. It actually cost you more money and you get less quality of a game....wait...but...its F2P!!!!!!!!! NO, they want you to think its F2P but you end up with a dev team that couldnt set the clock on a microwave, terrible customer service( If you think CCPs CS is bad , which it isnt, try a F2P game.), a game that is full of bugs( like if i wrote down all the bugs some of these games have i found casually playing it would take an 8 hr day to read them.), and a game designed so it either takes you an enormous amount of time ( IE: last chaos from aeria) to level or you have to buy into the game to get anywhere. And on these game you cannot compete with those who buy in. On top of this you have a restriction of freedom on the forums. Just mentioning any other game on aeria forums gets your post locked. On big point it can get you banned from posting if you mention other games. And neither of those publishers take criticism very well of them or their idiotic devs that cant even get a spell description right( i mean they dont even get it close, we arent talking a couple of typos. It could increase attack and the description will say it increases hit rate). You have to sugar coat everything or you get banned.
As the saying goes on F2P, "Free to play, pay to win". On top of all this you have to deal with some of the most moronic people ever to get online. Not to mention you also have (usually teenagers and college kids) guys chasing everything that remotely resembles a female. And 6 billion teens and preteens. And you tend to get the young ones that still act....5 yrs old.
F2P with MT would completely ruin this game. Eve is the best game in the MMO market right now. No one can offer what Eve does for the price Eve does and still upgrade and update the game. I mean seriously, they give us a free xpack every 6 months.. they dont have to keep expanding the game. And i know its a way to keep the player base here(Eve is a very top heavy game full of players that have played for years) but seriously they just keep adding to it all for the same $15 a month that you dont even have to pay if you can make 300 mil in a month which isnt hard.
You will not find a game with this kind of content for this price. Not even 1/2 the content. Not even the infamous WOW is in the same league as EVE. And you want to ruin it all with F2P? Are you ****ing insane,son?
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Gemberslaafje
Vivicide
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Posted - 2011.09.06 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn As it was said Eve can be F2P because if you cant easily make 300 mil in a month playing casually your doing it wrong. I can casually run level 4s and make this in a few days. i can make it in a couple of days in 0.0, if im uninterupted( and can pay attention that long).
I have played F2P games from Big Point , Aeria, LOTRO, ETC. It actually cost you more money and you get less quality of a game....wait...but...its F2P!!!!!!!!! NO, they want you to think its F2P but you end up with a dev team that couldnt set the clock on a microwave, terrible customer service( If you think CCPs CS is bad , which it isnt, try a F2P game.), a game that is full of bugs( like if i wrote down all the bugs some of these games have i found casually playing it would take an 8 hr day to read them.), and a game designed so it either takes you an enormous amount of time ( IE: last chaos from aeria) to level or you have to buy into the game to get anywhere. And on these game you cannot compete with those who buy in. On top of this you have a restriction of freedom on the forums. Just mentioning any other game on aeria forums gets your post locked. On big point it can get you banned from posting if you mention other games. And neither of those publishers take criticism very well of them or their idiotic devs that cant even get a spell description right( i mean they dont even get it close, we arent talking a couple of typos. It could increase attack and the description will say it increases hit rate). You have to sugar coat everything or you get banned.
As the saying goes on F2P, "Free to play, pay to win". On top of all this you have to deal with some of the most moronic people ever to get online. Not to mention you also have (usually teenagers and college kids) guys chasing everything that remotely resembles a female. And 6 billion teens and preteens. And you tend to get the young ones that still act....5 yrs old.
F2P with MT would completely ruin this game. Eve is the best game in the MMO market right now. No one can offer what Eve does for the price Eve does and still upgrade and update the game. I mean seriously, they give us a free xpack every 6 months.. they dont have to keep expanding the game. And i know its a way to keep the player base here(Eve is a very top heavy game full of players that have played for years) but seriously they just keep adding to it all for the same $15 a month that you dont even have to pay if you can make 300 mil in a month which isnt hard.
You will not find a game with this kind of content for this price. Not even 1/2 the content. Not even the infamous WOW is in the same league as EVE. And you want to ruin it all with F2P? Are you ****ing insane,son?
QFT. ---
Creator of the Eve Character Appraiser/Assembler: http://gemblog.nl/skill/ http://gemblog.nl/assembler/
Originally by: De'Veldrin Welcome to the ****ing sandbox
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2011.09.06 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: steave435 People keep claiming that CCP and EVE is failing and going to die due to loosing subscribers, and yet, at the same time, they complain about solo PVP being dead because of ever increasing blob sizes caused by the increased number of players.
It doesn't add up.
When i started eve 3-4 years ago the peak population i would see was about 28k online. Last year the peak population i would see online was 67k. The highest population i have seen since being back from a 6 month break(been back about 2 weeks now) is 45k. But to be fair i have been logging on at the tail end of peak or right after so it may hit 50-55k. Still i think they are starting to lose a few now because of the blobbling.
Also i dont think people where happy with the last patch. Most of the player base seems not to care about walking in stations, especially when their are other things to fix like sov warfare, lag issues,ship rebalancing,race rebalancing( Read:"Gallente need a desperate overhaul"), and the fact that EVE is starting to feel like the ghetto instead of space. In 4 years they have added 2500?? WH systems but the online population has more than doubled and a majority of eves players almost never or never goes into WH space.
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steave435
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.06 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: steave435 People keep claiming that CCP and EVE is failing and going to die due to loosing subscribers, and yet, at the same time, they complain about solo PVP being dead because of ever increasing blob sizes caused by the increased number of players.
It doesn't add up.
When i started eve 3-4 years ago the peak population i would see was about 28k online. Last year the peak population i would see online was 67k. The highest population i have seen since being back from a 6 month break(been back about 2 weeks now) is 45k. But to be fair i have been logging on at the tail end of peak or right after so it may hit 50-55k. Still i think they are starting to lose a few now because of the blobbling.
Also i dont think people where happy with the last patch. Most of the player base seems not to care about walking in stations, especially when their are other things to fix like sov warfare, lag issues,ship rebalancing,race rebalancing( Read:"Gallente need a desperate overhaul"), and the fact that EVE is starting to feel like the ghetto instead of space. In 4 years they have added 2500?? WH systems but the online population has more than doubled and a majority of eves players almost never or never goes into WH space.
Calling bull**** on that 67k.
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Velicitia
Gallente Open Designs
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Posted - 2011.09.06 10:40:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Skorn EVE should go free to play... (more stuff)
counter proposal: drink bleach =========================
Originally by: CCP Games, 2010 Creation is so precious; and greed, so destructive. Your choices can make a diference
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Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2011.09.06 17:32:00 -
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Originally by: steave435
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: steave435 People keep claiming that CCP and EVE is failing and going to die due to loosing subscribers, and yet, at the same time, they complain about solo PVP being dead because of ever increasing blob sizes caused by the increased number of players.
It doesn't add up.
When i started eve 3-4 years ago the peak population i would see was about 28k online. Last year the peak population i would see online was 67k. The highest population i have seen since being back from a 6 month break(been back about 2 weeks now) is 45k. But to be fair i have been logging on at the tail end of peak or right after so it may hit 50-55k. Still i think they are starting to lose a few now because of the blobbling.
Also i dont think people where happy with the last patch. Most of the player base seems not to care about walking in stations, especially when their are other things to fix like sov warfare, lag issues,ship rebalancing,race rebalancing( Read:"Gallente need a desperate overhaul"), and the fact that EVE is starting to feel like the ghetto instead of space. In 4 years they have added 2500?? WH systems but the online population has more than doubled and a majority of eves players almost never or never goes into WH space.
Calling bull**** on that 67k.
LOl I have seen it past 60k late last year. That was in the middle of summer. People play more in fall/ winter.I doubt know CCP doesnt announce it every time they break a record( IE: "we hit 60,142"...... 3 days later "We hit 60,205", a week later "we hit 60,371" ...etc. ).
So im calling BS on your BS.
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Joe Risalo
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Posted - 2011.09.06 21:51:00 -
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Screw f2p, however, I'd like to have my own little server with my friends....
Less systems, less ppl, less gate camps, less baiters, less ninjas = better time for me.
Yes, I'm a carebear... Just sayin'.... It'd be nice to have that option
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Nezumiiro Noneko
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Posted - 2011.09.07 02:02:00 -
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is there something to f2p that I am missing....everyone I tried I hated. yeah its free....then force fed 200 ways to nickel and dime you to death. Usually leave them going jsut charge me the 15 and get me a fully functional game ffs.
GW only exception...liked that a bit. But thats not even f2p, you pay the 1 time fee for the game and any expansions you get. Thinks its waht $45 all said and done....wasn't a bad deal imo. They then nickel and dime you for crap which is not game enhancing which is fine.
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Azhpol
Gallente Casa Del Wombat
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Posted - 2011.09.07 02:46:00 -
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Originally by: steave435
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: steave435 People keep claiming that CCP and EVE is failing and going to die due to loosing subscribers, and yet, at the same time, they complain about solo PVP being dead because of ever increasing blob sizes caused by the increased number of players.
It doesn't add up.
When i started eve 3-4 years ago the peak population i would see was about 28k online. Last year the peak population i would see online was 67k. The highest population i have seen since being back from a 6 month break(been back about 2 weeks now) is 45k. But to be fair i have been logging on at the tail end of peak or right after so it may hit 50-55k. Still i think they are starting to lose a few now because of the blobbling.
Also i dont think people where happy with the last patch. Most of the player base seems not to care about walking in stations, especially when their are other things to fix like sov warfare, lag issues,ship rebalancing,race rebalancing( Read:"Gallente need a desperate overhaul"), and the fact that EVE is starting to feel like the ghetto instead of space. In 4 years they have added 2500?? WH systems but the online population has more than doubled and a majority of eves players almost never or never goes into WH space.
Calling bull**** on that 67k.
All time high is 63k
Also, I find these thread amusing in light of the fact that EvE STARTED as a F2P game, and then they started charging subs after a year or 2. Pay2Play is a more stable income model that F2P, so CCP isn't gonna go back while they need the money to fund TargetsOnConsoles and GlitterVamp2000 development. ----------------------------------------------- I don't post on an alt, I post on my forum main! |
Thorian Baalnorn
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Posted - 2011.09.07 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: Azhpol stuff
I stand corrected, could of swore it was 67k but knew it was at least 62k. It looks like we are near mid 2009 maybe a bit earlier levels on users. Superblob Naptrain and stupid xpacks are ruining this game.
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Van Derka
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Posted - 2011.09.07 05:28:00 -
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looking at the stats on http://eve-offline.net you can see that this year has seen a flat and somewhat downward trend in total concurrent players.
I believe that some of the player base has got patch fatigue, will the come back though?...
Also of note is the prices and number of characters in the character bazaar, over the last 6 months, I've seen the number of WTB listings drop...
Havind said that, I dont think EVE should go free to play, that would mean less money for CCP and a lower quality game, and more random players who mite be good fodder but dont make for good corpies... nothing invested nothing lost...
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steave435
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.07 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: steave435
Originally by: Thorian Baalnorn
Originally by: steave435 People keep claiming that CCP and EVE is failing and going to die due to loosing subscribers, and yet, at the same time, they complain about solo PVP being dead because of ever increasing blob sizes caused by the increased number of players.
It doesn't add up.
When i started eve 3-4 years ago the peak population i would see was about 28k online. Last year the peak population i would see online was 67k. The highest population i have seen since being back from a 6 month break(been back about 2 weeks now) is 45k. But to be fair i have been logging on at the tail end of peak or right after so it may hit 50-55k. Still i think they are starting to lose a few now because of the blobbling.
Also i dont think people where happy with the last patch. Most of the player base seems not to care about walking in stations, especially when their are other things to fix like sov warfare, lag issues,ship rebalancing,race rebalancing( Read:"Gallente need a desperate overhaul"), and the fact that EVE is starting to feel like the ghetto instead of space. In 4 years they have added 2500?? WH systems but the online population has more than doubled and a majority of eves players almost never or never goes into WH space.
Calling bull**** on that 67k.
LOl I have seen it past 60k late last year. That was in the middle of summer. People play more in fall/ winter.I doubt know CCP doesnt announce it every time they break a record( IE: "we hit 60,142"...... 3 days later "We hit 60,205", a week later "we hit 60,371" ...etc. ).
So im calling BS on your BS.
They make a pretty big deal of it every AT actually. The 63k is probably from AT9.
Looking at the eve offline data, you'll see a spike every 6 months (basically every major patch) followed by a drop for a while. Comparing it to this month during the previous years you'll see that Incarna just failed to increase the population (despite bringing nothing new to the game) rather then decrease it..."EVE is dying" would require a pretty big drop, epsecially when any loss of subscriptions is countered by whatever they sell in the NEX store.
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Robert Caldera
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Posted - 2011.09.07 11:32:00 -
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Originally by: Joe Risalo Screw f2p, however, I'd like to have my own little server with my friends....
Less systems, less ppl, less gate camps, less baiters, less ninjas = better time for me.
Yes, I'm a carebear... Just sayin'.... It'd be nice to have that option
rofl... what a silly guy. You would grind ISK by shooting stupid red crosses for what exactly??? For a nice amount of ISK you can show your friend sitting just next to you? Eve is eve BECAUSE of the single universe, your isk are useless if you cant spend them on the market, which only exists because of people running it.
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Joe Risalo
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Posted - 2011.09.07 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Robert Caldera
Originally by: Joe Risalo Screw f2p, however, I'd like to have my own little server with my friends....
Less systems, less ppl, less gate camps, less baiters, less ninjas = better time for me.
Yes, I'm a carebear... Just sayin'.... It'd be nice to have that option
rofl... what a silly guy. You would grind ISK by shooting stupid red crosses for what exactly??? For a nice amount of ISK you can show your friend sitting just next to you? Eve is eve BECAUSE of the single universe, your isk are useless if you cant spend them on the market, which only exists because of people running it.
You're correct. However, if I could have my own little server that had stuff for sale, or I could at least make it myself.
However, I am addicted to Eve for the progression. I enjoy getting into that next ship that I want. I grind missions to afford those ships and the fittings I want for them. I'm not much into the combat pvp even though I do have trained skills and know how to pvp. I just prefer not to.
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DuKackBoon
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Posted - 2011.09.08 09:34:00 -
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Originally by: Martin Skorn EVE should go free to play...
You should leave EVE...
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