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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:28:00 -
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CCP isnt gonna listen to them OR us. Hilmar made THAT clear
Quote: Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say
Mittens is trying to declare war on CCP.
Hell were I CCP an a group of players made by my company started getting uppity, ID sure as hell disband them, especially as they have no real power anyways
CCP has in the past dropped changed into the game without discussing it with them first (to which they qqed and whined just as loudly as anyone here at any time) and it shows how little they really respect the group.
The ONLY reason CCP hasnt dropped the CSM minutes regardless of how the CSM feels I think is cause they realize that regardless of the "tone" the minutes will paint them in a bad way. I fully dont expect to see the minutes until either everyone has forgotten about them or until everyone that remembers then is gone (if ever).
So why do we still have this useless group of people flying to Iceland to drink beer and buddy-buddy up with CCP? ------------------------- "The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online" Petur Oskarsson - naivety of youth or is he no longer with "us"? |
Cedar Locus
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:34:00 -
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good point
obviously it's just a ploy to give players the illusion of having a voice.
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Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:35:00 -
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Quote: Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say
Can you blame them? Who cares what people say? People always say one thing and do another. Words mean crap unless there is action behind them.
Besides, CCP is a business. If what they do keeps the player base the same size or growing then as far as they're concerned they made the right business decision.
So if you say you're going to quit and then you subscribe for another month anyway, well... Then obviously there's good reason not to listen to what you say.
Say what you mean, mean what you say, and don't be a hypocrite. If you say that you're going to quit, then quit. Go join the rest of the New Eden Exiles in PO (which is quite fun) or something else entirely.
Hell. Read a book.
- "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:38:00 -
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So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm? Greetings and salutations all who reside here. May your flames be warm and your trolls tasty. |
Cedar Locus
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:41:00 -
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Edited by: Cedar Locus on 05/09/2011 17:41:12 @andrea
QQ the player base isn't growing...
by far the most players in eve are alts.
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AlleyKat
Gallente The Unwanted.
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod So why do we still have this useless group of people flying to Iceland to drink beer and buddy-buddy up with CCP?
It's one thing to be vocal about something, it's another to actually put your face out there and stand up for something you believe in.
At least they are actually trying to stand for something, whether or not it has the desired effect is another matter.
in b4 the move to csm forum? |
Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:50:00 -
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Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 05/09/2011 17:52:27 Edited by: Elyssa MacLeod on 05/09/2011 17:51:26
Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?
Just a PR scam from everything Ive seen of them as soon as they get ****y about something theyve been shown they get slapped with the NDA so they cant rage about it.
Originally by: AlleyKat
Originally by: Elyssa MacLeod So why do we still have this useless group of people flying to Iceland to drink beer and buddy-buddy up with CCP?
It's one thing to be vocal about something, it's another to actually put your face out there and stand up for something you believe in.
Yeah cause Mittens does exactly that.... wheres that "in defense of icarna" thread
------------------------- "The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online" Petur Oskarsson - naivety of youth or is he no longer with "us"? |
Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:55:00 -
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u mad
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Takamori Maruyama
Amarr Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.05 17:56:00 -
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Mother of God people vomiting **** everywhere.
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.09.05 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Takamori Maruyama Mother of God people vomiting **** everywhere.
a good example of this is quoted -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. |
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.05 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?
Originated as a scape goat for CCP PR after being caught cheating. What it evolved into after that is questionable. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Kengutsi Akira
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Posted - 2011.09.05 18:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?
Originated as a scape goat for CCP PR after being caught cheating. What it evolved into after that is questionable.
lol such a lofty goal, anything forming from such a pure hearted ideal must be good right?
(yeah thats sarcasm) ------------------------------------ "You know, my foot oughta vandilize your ass" |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.09.05 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Kengutsi Akira
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Jenshae Chiroptera So is CSM just a scape goat or a soothing balm?
Originated as a scape goat for CCP PR after being caught cheating. What it evolved into after that is questionable.
lol such a lofty goal, anything forming from such a pure hearted ideal must be good right?
(yeah thats sarcasm)
I was going to post a real world analogy, but it would invariably evolve into religion/politics. I cant deal with that right now.
Im just saying its possible to bring something positive out of it. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Elyssa MacLeod
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Posted - 2011.09.05 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Cipher Jones [
Im just saying its possible to bring something positive out of it.
Im saying it WOULD have been possible, had they not elected ppl to it who blantantlt want to destroy the (your) game ------------------------- "The voice of the player has always been an integral and driving force in the maturation of EVE Online" Petur Oskarsson - naivety of youth or is he no longer with "us"? |
Andrea Griffin
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Posted - 2011.09.05 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: Cedar Locus Edited by: Cedar Locus on 05/09/2011 17:41:12 @andrea
QQ the player base isn't growing...
I never said that it was; I said if. I know, as well as you do, that a small but significant chunk of players have left in the past few months.
- "When I nerf something, it takes 2-3 months for your dreams to be crushed." - CCP Big Dumb Object |
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