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Safai
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2012.09.26 22:32:00 -
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I am addressing the greater capsuleer society to share the message of true faith with you all, to bear witness to His testament, and to give an overview of the activities of the Ba'atheen Aljannatal Asaakitah' [Seekers of a Silent Paradise] during recent months--in particular the ongoing cleansing of Ardishapur Prime.
Quote:Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ We of His faithful have been chosen by the Lord above in a time far before our own existence, for when the Lord made you it was with a purpose given and path laid out. The responsibility lays with us, my children, to tend to this path until the day we return to a time of grace with our Lord, and we see His mercy once again. Carry yourselves every day with this knowledge, but do not place any sense of pride in it, for this clouds the judgement and unfavors you in the eye of the Lord. Embrace the humility inherent in your place and know that One who is infinitely our greater watches from perfection. The eye of the Lord sees forever into all things that the Lord has made by the Lord's own supreme will. Yes, we who follow the teachings of His messenger, the blessed Prophet Ocillan, are truly the most cherished children of the Lord, for in our hands we hold the true Lord's direct commandments, and will see it done until the end of days. There are those who think they can follow the Path but spurn the orders given on what to do with the heathen and the heretic. They would pervert the true meaning of the Reclaiming entrusted to us. They would tell you that your actions would taint your soul, that destroying the godless heathens is not the Divine Will. That we can find a way to open the Gate to Paradise without removing the evils that infest the Garden. That through our own technological means we can bring our own selves to Heaven and leave the Garden. No, my children, we know this to be a fallacy. It is a false thing they would preach to you; that we can be with our Lord while the unfaithful claim the Garden for themselves. With the guidance of His messenger, the Prophet Ocilan, we see through the lies and know better than to heed such folly. It is their own souls who have become lost in the dark, trapped in the ever-twisting roads of their scientific inquiries and studies. We who truly believe, we who follow the commands of the holy Prophet directly, are shown the way to salvation. We know that it is only through the complete removal of the sinful that earns us our place in Paradise. What they would call mercy, we know only as damnation. It is not merciful to spare the disease as it kills the body. It is not righteous to spare the heathen as he promulgates false laws upon the worlds that are not his, as he claims ownership of people that are not his own. "The words of the Prophet ring louder than the whispers of any heretic, and the beauty of Paradise shines brightly enough to illuminate our way. We are the instruments of the divine will, and through us and through our actions, the divine light will shine brightly across all worlds in the Garden." Praise the Lord. Praise St. Ocilan Ardishapur. May His will be done. Amen. Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ Gùÿ The transcribed audio above is a portion of a devotional sermon given by myself, as taught by my precursers and St. Ocilan himself, and chosen by my congregation for its reaffirming message. I pray that someone among you will bear witness to the signs He has given, and overcome one's sinful nature to act upon His divine will. If you feel you require guidance along the path He has set for you, please do not hesitate to contact me.
In addition, the Ba'atheen Aljannatal Asaakitah' have put into motion a long-term operation with the intention of purging the Ardishapur Prime system of heathen influence. This place was once a holy bastion for followers of the Prophet Ocilan, but has since devolved into a den of greed and myopia. The first stage of action was removal of all capsuleer-placed infrastructure within Ardishapur Prime, and the destruction of numerous additional towers in the Sosarir constellation. Having completed this, we have initiated acts of disruption targeted at those seeking material wealth acquired from the system, with the long term goal of removing outsider presence to restore its prior glory.
It is the will of the Lord that salvation be returned to this once-holy place, and we are to be its bearers.
I would also take a moment to acknowledge the willingness of our anonymous research partners among the capsuleer scientific community. Thank you.
Sincerely,
Safai Ardishapur al-Rasheed Ba'atheen Aljannatal Asaakitah Equilibrium of Mankind
Quote:"Through our faith in God as instruments of the Divine Will, we will one day see a cleansed cluster. It will be many years, decades, even centuries, but just as those who have held the Faith for two millenia before us, we shall not falter from the true and righteous path." - Amir al-Mu'minin Koronakesh |

Vaari
Imperial Pharmacy
128
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Posted - 2012.09.26 23:55:00 -
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What sort of vile heresy it this? |

Infomorph Nikilaiki Ruutarhara
Protocol Inanna
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Posted - 2012.09.27 00:23:00 -
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Vaari wrote:What sort of vile heresy it this? It is heresy of the most vile sort, m'Lord.
You must eradicate it at once. God's will demands it! |

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations Shaktipat Revelators
495
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Posted - 2012.09.27 00:52:00 -
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Vaari wrote:What sort of vile heresy it this?
The Equilibrium of Mankind is an Amarrian Heresy which believes that all non-faithful human life must be eradicated to make the "Garden" of New Eden pure for God. |

Amaki Mai
Meiyi Family Holdings
47
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Posted - 2012.09.27 03:51:00 -
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For truly it is said that the worst sort of heresy is when a believer places the word of a man above the word of God. The words of man may occaisionally illuminate the mysteries of God's Plan, but they must be constantly tested to ensure they do not depart from the true word of the Lord.
Clearly it is our divinely assigned mandate NOT to destroy His creation unless no other path is open. The Reclaiming is supposed to be an act of charity and duty, it is for the purpose not of Reclaiming creation for God, but of Reclaiming the Lost and Damned for God.
I imagine God cares little for a hydrogen atom or for any other collection of matter and energy. He requires SOULS and it those things which we are meant to Reclaim. |

Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
243
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Posted - 2012.09.27 04:44:00 -
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Ok, who left the insane asylum door open again? What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |

Mika Firestorm
Wolfsbrigade Lost Obsession
0
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Posted - 2012.09.27 04:48:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Ok, who left the insane asylum door open again? Why, are you not happy with your new freedom? Enjoy outside world! State the nature of your medical emergency |

Safai
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
22
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Posted - 2012.09.27 05:11:00 -
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Amaki Mai wrote:For truly it is said that the worst sort of heresy is when a believer places the word of a man above the word of God. The words of man may occaisionally illuminate the mysteries of God's Plan, but they must be constantly tested to ensure they do not depart from the true word of the Lord. Quite wrong. The teachings of the Prophet Ocilan are the word of God, child, but you would be incorrect to think we worship the messenger over the Lord Himself. His is the word of the true Amarrian faith as shown to the Prophet Ocilan by the true Amarrian prophets before him, before the corruption of the Amarrian people at the hands of false-believers and covetous noblemen; the true Amarrian faith that Imperial propaganda will blind you to.
The word of St. Ocilan Ardishapur has been continuously tested over time, long since before the formation of the Theology Council, is as authentic today as it was millenia ago. We are not some kind of new fad.
Amaki Mai wrote:Clearly it is our divinely assigned mandate NOT to destroy His creation unless no other path is open. The Reclaiming is supposed to be an act of charity and duty, it is for the purpose not of Reclaiming creation for God, but of Reclaiming the Lost and Damned for God. There is no other path, and that is precisely what we do; reclaim the lost and damned for God.
Anabella Rella wrote:Ok, who left the insane asylum door open again? Unless you have something of value to add, please take your petty comments elsewhere. |

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
107
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Posted - 2012.09.27 09:15:00 -
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Safai wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:Ok, who left the insane asylum door open again? Unless you have something of value to add, please take your petty comments elsewhere.
While I am an avid supporter of the Theology Council and Empire legislative and don't agree with you on your heretical viewpoints Ms. Ardishapur, I have to ask: What did you expect from tree-prancing-spirit-worshipping Republicans?
.stillwater |

Kalaratiri
Lutinari Syndicate Electus Matari
252
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Posted - 2012.09.27 16:16:00 -
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Leopold Caine wrote:Safai wrote:Anabella Rella wrote:Ok, who left the insane asylum door open again? Unless you have something of value to add, please take your petty comments elsewhere. While I am an avid supporter of the Theology Council and Empire legislative and don't agree with you on your heretical viewpoints Ms. Ardishapur, I have to ask: What did you expect from tree-prancing-spirit-worshipping Republicans?
And what more could we expect from such a distinguished 'legitimate businessman' such as yourself, than petty insults and casual racism? |

Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
245
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Posted - 2012.09.27 17:04:00 -
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Make me, slaver. Last time I checked you don't own the IGS and you have absolutely no authority over me.
As for you Caine, you can go... jump off a cliff.
If either one of you have a problem with me we can settle it in space. I'm not hard to find. What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |

Safai
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
22
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Posted - 2012.09.27 17:29:00 -
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Anabella Rella wrote:Make me, slaver. I sorely hope you are not referring to me. I suggest you take a step back and open your eyes.
In any case I will be disregarding any barbaric challenges you feel the need to assert. If you did even a modicum of reading you would know I have far more important things to deal with than the likes of one boisterous pilot. |

Lucius Vindictus
Samarkand Financial
84
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Posted - 2012.09.28 01:28:00 -
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Of all the perversions conjured up by addled minds I will never understand the apparent allure of this cult. What could be more cold and hollow than the vision Ocilan Ardishapur had for our cluster? What promise does it offer except for a promised wasteland filled with blood and ashes?... |

Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
52
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Posted - 2012.09.28 05:50:00 -
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Amaki Mai wrote:For truly it is said that the worst sort of heresy is when a believer places the word of a man above the word of God. The words of man may occaisionally illuminate the mysteries of God's Plan, but they must be constantly tested to ensure they do not depart from the true word of the Lord.
Clearly it is our divinely assigned mandate NOT to destroy His creation unless no other path is open. The Reclaiming is supposed to be an act of charity and duty, it is for the purpose not of Reclaiming creation for God, but of Reclaiming the Lost and Damned for God.
I imagine God cares little for a hydrogen atom or for any other collection of matter and energy. He requires SOULS and it those things which we are meant to Reclaim.
A very ambiguous stance. A few observations.
"For truly it is said that the worst sort of heresy is when a believer places the word of a man above the word of God."
Well, you certainly sound like one of us here. This is one of Ocilan and Paragyn's genuine gripes, and one of our gripes. There is plenty of evidence out there that Empire nor Emperor speaks for God, or even interprets scripture except to twist it.
"The words of man may occasionally illuminate the mysteries of God's Plan, but they must be constantly tested to ensure they do not depart from the true word of the Lord."
That we are, obviously. From scripture:
"Surround yourself with the faithful, Stand together, for there is no strength like it under the heavens." - The Scriptures, Book of Missions 71:21
We have, for ages, outnumbered, outgunned, lawless and landless served and been granted immortality,
"Clearly it is our divinely assigned mandate NOT to destroy His creation unless no other path is open. The Reclaiming is supposed to be an act of charity and duty, it is for the purpose not of Reclaiming creation for God, but of Reclaiming the Lost and Damned for God."
This is a point of much consternation and one that needs to be addressed carefully. For we are all lost and damned. The reclaiming of creation makes perfect sense and is a blessed act, as long as the final outcome is the Path of Righteousness for all.
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Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
52
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Posted - 2012.09.28 05:57:00 -
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Lucius Vindictus wrote:Of all the perversions conjured up by addled minds I will never understand the apparent allure of this cult. What could be more cold and hollow than the vision Ocilan Ardishapur had for our cluster? What promise does it offer except for a promised wasteland filled with blood and ashes?...
It is not cold and hollow. That is your willingness to thrive on propaganda and slander speaking. Of course any goal must have multiple approaches. There are some who will simply refuse no matter what.
But what about inquisitiveness? What about inspiration? What about critical thinking? What about just asking why?
Excerpt from "On The Traditionalists":
"It is not necessary to wage a war of extermination against the Garden of our Lord. Nor is it really even a feasible course of action. We recognize this, and we do not believe that the culling of souls as our Traditional brethren espouse is the true way. Truly, what would the Lord think, were we to arrive in Heaven, having made the journey on a road of bodies in a field of ash ? Let God deal with the heathen as God wills, and let us do our best to bring ourselves to Heaven in as pure a manner as we can."
All I see n this discussion is a lack of interest. A myopic look at what has become a cold, dead life of nationalism and false blood identity coupled with a blind eye to all of the disasters that have befallen us.
Think twice. Cut once. |

Amaki Mai
Meiyi Family Holdings
47
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Posted - 2012.09.28 05:58:00 -
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Lucius Vindictus wrote:Of all the perversions conjured up by addled minds I will never understand the apparent allure of this cult. What could be more cold and hollow than the vision Ocilan Ardishapur had for our cluster? What promise does it offer except for a promised wasteland filled with blood and ashes?...
You see, that's my problem with it. Reclaiming the souls of the Lost and Fallen, I can understand. You bring them back around to an understanding of God's Love and Mercy. Killing everyone who thinks differently is something I don't understand - what's the point of it? If only those currently Saved have the potentiality of being Saved then what is the point of the Reclaiming, or the point of Creation itself anymore? Surely God could do a better job of ending a superfluous Creation than we could? |

Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
68
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:13:00 -
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Lucius Vindictus wrote:Of all the perversions conjured up by addled minds I will never understand the apparent allure of this cult. What could be more cold and hollow than the vision Ocilan Ardishapur had for our cluster? What promise does it offer except for a promised wasteland filled with blood and ashes?...
Hello there, my dear old friend.
I confess some disappointment, as you should know better.You call it a "wasteland, cold and hollow", without the masses thrumming through space and across worlds that are not theirs and which they are not fit for? You'll forgive me for, necessarily, disagreeing with such a bleak assessment.
Rather the opposite, as where you see empty wastes, I see cleansed and holy reaches, calm and quiet without the tides of sin and the chaotic noise reverberating across hundreds of once-pure stars. When my Faith gave the cluster Reschard as a monument to the Divine Will, it was just another note in a chorus that has been going on for millenia, but through it you can see just how far those of the Faith will go to ensure the purification is completed. We are dealing with the noblest of ends, the very salvation of all humanity, and so we must use the greatest means to accomplish our goals, to immanentize the eschaton.
You should not mourn those who die in the holy struggle, be they pure or not; there is no sin in the destruction of those who are a breach against Molokite influence, and their spirits are commended to the Ocean of Lost Souls that wail and whirl around the Gate to Heaven, which bars all impurity from the Divine's presence. Nor is there sin in the death of Faithful men and women, who die in service to the Maker of Creation. There is indeed no surer path to Heaven than through death incurred by protecting the Saved, and by destroying sources of sin.
I continue to hope that you will abandon your errant path, my dear old friend, and that you will someday see the Maker's light and follow the proper path as laid out by Prophet Khalid and as told by the Blessed Prophets Ocilan and Paragyn.
SASPR Amir al-Mu'minin and Eve Online Hold'Em Management |

Rodj Blake
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1125
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:07:00 -
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As someone who supported House Ardishapur during the last Succession Trials, I take a very dim view of attempts to disrupt normal life there. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
351
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:50:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:As someone who supported House Ardishapur during the last Succession Trials, I take a very dim view of attempts to disrupt normal life there.
My dear friends in the Seekers see what you consider a 'normal life' to be the disruption.
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Rodj Blake
Praetorian Auxiliary Force Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1127
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:02:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:As someone who supported House Ardishapur during the last Succession Trials, I take a very dim view of attempts to disrupt normal life there. My dear friends in the Seekers see what you consider a 'normal life' to be the disruption.
You do realise that your dear friends' philosophy demands your annihilation, right?
I guess that with friends like that, you really don't need enemies.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |

Silas Vitalia
Nobilta Nera
353
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Posted - 2012.09.28 18:09:00 -
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Rodj Blake wrote:
You do realise that your dear friends' philosophy demands your annihilation, right?
I guess that with friends like that, you really don't need enemies.
We don't let little details like that get in our way *smile*
From a practical standpoint I imagine they would save their close friends for 'last' if that is the correct way to put it.
No reason we can't make beautiful music together until that day of course. |

Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
52
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Posted - 2012.09.29 11:23:00 -
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Silas Vitalia wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:
You do realise that your dear friends' philosophy demands your annihilation, right?
I guess that with friends like that, you really don't need enemies.
We don't let little details like that get in our way *smile* From a practical standpoint I imagine they would save their close friends for 'last' if that is the correct way to put it. No reason we can't make beautiful music together until that day of course.
I am Zhayedan Sardir. I will be the last.
If you do not like our occupation of our rightful home Rodj, do something about it. |

Anabella Rella
Gradient Electus Matari
246
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Posted - 2012.09.29 16:00:00 -
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Safai wrote:
In any case I will be disregarding any barbaric challenges you feel the need to assert. If you did even a modicum of reading you would know I have far more important things to deal with than the likes of one boisterous pilot.
I regard myself as iconoclastic rather than boisterous but, do carry on with your "important things".
What you want is irrelevant, what you've chosen is at hand. |

Makkal Hanaya
Hanaya Deferment Co
337
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Posted - 2012.10.03 06:01:00 -
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You've always seemed quite boisterous to me. although my eyes were open they might have just as well've been closed
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Mardon Hashur
Interstellar Military Assistance Corporation Eternal Evocations
47
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Posted - 2012.10.03 10:30:00 -
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Thought I strongly agree with the reclaiming, the way that I think it should be done is with missions and reaching out to help instead of just blasting every ship that is not gold. Violence in the reclaiming should be the final resort to turn a people to the light of God after all other attempts to have failed
Sincerly Mardon Hashur |

Lucius Vindictus
Samarkand Financial
86
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Posted - 2012.10.03 17:08:00 -
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Koronakesh wrote:Hello there, my dear old friend.
I confess some disappointment, as you should know better.You call it a "wasteland, cold and hollow", without the masses thrumming through space and across worlds that are not theirs and which they are not fit for? You'll forgive me for, necessarily, disagreeing with such a bleak assessment.
Rather the opposite, as where you see empty wastes, I see cleansed and holy reaches, calm and quiet without the tides of sin and the chaotic noise reverberating across hundreds of once-pure stars. When my Faith gave the cluster Reschard as a monument to the Divine Will, it was just another note in a chorus that has been going on for millenia, but through it you can see just how far those of the Faith will go to ensure the purification is completed. We are dealing with the noblest of ends, the very salvation of all humanity, and so we must use the greatest means to accomplish our goals, to immanentize the eschaton.
You should not mourn those who die in the holy struggle, be they pure or not; there is no sin in the destruction of those who are a breach against Molokite influence, and their spirits are commended to the Ocean of Lost Souls that wail and whirl around the Gate to Heaven, which bars all impurity from the Divine's presence. Nor is there sin in the death of Faithful men and women, who die in service to the Maker of Creation. There is indeed no surer path to Heaven than through death incurred by protecting the Saved, and by destroying sources of sin.
I continue to hope that you will abandon your errant path, my dear old friend, and that you will someday see the Maker's light and follow the proper path as laid out by Prophet Khalid and as told by the Blessed Prophets Ocilan and Paragyn.
IGÇÖm puzzled by your apparent disappointment that I am unreceptive to your message. Our friendship was over when you turned your back on your House and your Empire. I used to consider you a respectable and intelligent man. Unfortunately you always did lack restraint. For a time I thought that your unhealthy interest in forbidden texts was passing and academic in nature. I thought that you of all people had the moral fortitude to stay true to the Imperial rite of faith and couldnGÇÖt be swayed by false prophets. In fact, I recall a time when you were trusted to investigate my loyalty or lack thereof in the past. We were all very wrong about youGǪ Not only did you descend down the spiral of fanaticism, but you did so for a heresy that turned your entire faith upside down. And it seems to have warped your perceptions. There is nothing glorious about your acts of murder. Just like there was nothing divine about the Reschard incident. It was genocide, and no amount of writing can mask the injustice of what happened that day. New Eden can do without your vision of Utopia. |

Boma Airaken
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
53
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Posted - 2012.10.04 07:12:00 -
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Lucius Vindictus wrote:Koronakesh wrote:Hello there, my dear old friend.
I confess some disappointment, as you should know better.You call it a "wasteland, cold and hollow", without the masses thrumming through space and across worlds that are not theirs and which they are not fit for? You'll forgive me for, necessarily, disagreeing with such a bleak assessment.
Rather the opposite, as where you see empty wastes, I see cleansed and holy reaches, calm and quiet without the tides of sin and the chaotic noise reverberating across hundreds of once-pure stars. When my Faith gave the cluster Reschard as a monument to the Divine Will, it was just another note in a chorus that has been going on for millenia, but through it you can see just how far those of the Faith will go to ensure the purification is completed. We are dealing with the noblest of ends, the very salvation of all humanity, and so we must use the greatest means to accomplish our goals, to immanentize the eschaton.
You should not mourn those who die in the holy struggle, be they pure or not; there is no sin in the destruction of those who are a breach against Molokite influence, and their spirits are commended to the Ocean of Lost Souls that wail and whirl around the Gate to Heaven, which bars all impurity from the Divine's presence. Nor is there sin in the death of Faithful men and women, who die in service to the Maker of Creation. There is indeed no surer path to Heaven than through death incurred by protecting the Saved, and by destroying sources of sin.
I continue to hope that you will abandon your errant path, my dear old friend, and that you will someday see the Maker's light and follow the proper path as laid out by Prophet Khalid and as told by the Blessed Prophets Ocilan and Paragyn. IGÇÖm puzzled by your apparent disappointment that I am unreceptive to your message. Our friendship was over when you turned your back on your House and your Empire. I used to consider you a respectable and intelligent man. Unfortunately you always did lack restraint. For a time I thought that your unhealthy interest in forbidden texts was passing and academic in nature. I thought that you of all people had the moral fortitude to stay true to the Imperial rite of faith and couldnGÇÖt be swayed by false prophets. In fact, I recall a moment when you were trusted to judge my loyalty or lack thereof in the past. We were all very wrong about youGǪ Not only did you descend down the spiral of fanaticism, but you did so for a heresy that turned your entire faith upside down. And it seems to have warped your perceptions. There is nothing glorious about your acts of murder. Just like there was nothing divine about the Reschard incident. It was genocide, and no amount of writing can mask the injustice of what happened that day. New Eden can do without your vision of Utopia.
Yes. Empire forbid we read books that they don't want us to read. What a sin, what a heresy, what a horrible act, to simply learn and make ones own decisions based on evidence, logic, and perception.
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