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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:36:00 -
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many times im sure we have all had a NPC ship warp away from us EVEN WHILE SCRAMBLED, surly this risk free pvp attitude is a bad message to the young players?
"people really scramble npc" yes they do, and they shouldn't bother because it doesnt work anyway. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
93
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Posted - 2012.09.28 11:42:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:many times im sure we have all had a NPC ship warp away from us EVEN WHILE SCRAMBLED, surly this risk free pvp attitude is a bad message to the young players?
"people really scramble npc" yes they do, and they shouldn't bother because it doesnt work anyway.
I warp scrambled a Jump Gate once.
It got away :( |
Cyprus Black
Perkone Caldari State
354
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:33:00 -
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ISD's, please lock thread due to stupid. Thank you. Hijinks of a highsec pirate http://cyprusblack.blogspot.com/ |
Mars Theran
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
318
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:42:00 -
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Forgive my Intrusion, but I think the only NPC ships that warp away are the ones which have story characters in them in missions and Arcs specifically. They are supposed to warp. afaik, engaged rats don't warp either. Maybe I was actually sleeping in front of my computer and dreamed I posted. Certainly, it's not there now. |
Diva Ex Machina
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:44:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Forgive my Intrusion, but I think the only NPC ships that warp away are the ones which have story characters in them in missions and Arcs specifically. They are supposed to warp. afaik, engaged rats don't warp either.
Not sure what the OP was on about but some belt rats in null can warp off.
Not that I take this thread seriously I hasten to add. |
lanyaie
536
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:45:00 -
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For reading this thread your IQ has decreased by 25% Hay |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
755
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:48:00 -
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I'd rather have NPC battleships warp off instead of zooming away from the belt at 2000 m/s as they sometimes do.
Irritating as hell. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1515
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:52:00 -
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That explains why they're so weak, apparently they try to fight players with warp core stabs... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Lord Ryan
True Xero
652
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:54:00 -
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Low sec belt rats warp away. Never had one scrammed warp away. Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me. Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient. Nerf it cause I can't fly it. I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
74
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:55:00 -
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belt rats do warp, I have seen it before. We hotdropped a ferox in a low sec belt with noobships, killed it, and then some rats came in (2 frigs and a cruiser). At first everyone warped to our cloaked scout to avoid them, but then decided to warp back in and blob the rats with noobships just for the heck of it. (This was before noobship buff ) As we landed 10-20 from the rats, they warped off. The whole OP laughed because it looked as if they were running away.
but yeah they warp, not mission rats, only belt rats or gate rats |
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
526
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Posted - 2012.09.28 12:57:00 -
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Lord Ryan wrote:Low sec belt rats warp away. Never had one scrammed warp away.
it happens.
Now as some one who'd like to shoot players one day, id like to know that risking my ship wont result in some guy escaping from my impending doom pvp.
or even if i fit warp core stabs to my ship, i might make the guy feel bad. thats never good for morale or sportsman ship.
are warp core stabs even legal in low sec? http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1515
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:01:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Lord Ryan wrote:Low sec belt rats warp away. Never had one scrammed warp away. it happens. Now as some one who'd like to shoot players one day, id like to know that risking my ship wont result in some guy escaping from my impending doom pvp. or even if i fit warp core stabs to my ship, i might make the guy feel bad. thats never good for morale or sportsman ship. are warp core stabs even legal in low sec? Well, they might, but if they're stabbed like that, the risk to your ship is lowered. Trade offs ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
381
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:04:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:belt rats do warp, I have seen it before. We hotdropped a ferox in a low sec belt with noobships, killed it, and then some rats came in (2 frigs and a cruiser). At first everyone warped to our cloaked scout to avoid them, but then decided to warp back in and blob the rats with noobships just for the heck of it. (This was before noobship buff ) As we landed 10-20 from the rats, they warped off. The whole OP laughed because it looked as if they were running away.
but yeah they warp, not mission rats, only belt rats or gate rats
Wow, so you decide to go blobbing and are suprised when they warp off. Maybe next time you should bring something the rats can fight instead of a huge blob.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
526
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:06:00 -
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Pinky Feldman wrote:Warde Guildencrantz wrote:belt rats do warp, I have seen it before. We hotdropped a ferox in a low sec belt with noobships, killed it, and then some rats came in (2 frigs and a cruiser). At first everyone warped to our cloaked scout to avoid them, but then decided to warp back in and blob the rats with noobships just for the heck of it. (This was before noobship buff ) As we landed 10-20 from the rats, they warped off. The whole OP laughed because it looked as if they were running away.
but yeah they warp, not mission rats, only belt rats or gate rats Wow, so you decide to go blobbing and are suprised when they warp off. Maybe next time you should bring something the rats can fight instead of a huge blob.
well if that ferox had taken a page from the NPC book of being a bad sport, hed have fit some stabs and escaped to mine another belt. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Warde Guildencrantz
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:30:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:Warde Guildencrantz wrote:belt rats do warp, I have seen it before. We hotdropped a ferox in a low sec belt with noobships, killed it, and then some rats came in (2 frigs and a cruiser). At first everyone warped to our cloaked scout to avoid them, but then decided to warp back in and blob the rats with noobships just for the heck of it. (This was before noobship buff ) As we landed 10-20 from the rats, they warped off. The whole OP laughed because it looked as if they were running away.
but yeah they warp, not mission rats, only belt rats or gate rats Wow, so you decide to go blobbing and are suprised when they warp off. Maybe next time you should bring something the rats can fight instead of a huge blob. well if that ferox had taken a page from the NPC book of being a bad sport, hed have fit some stabs and escaped to mine another belt.
nah, 10-12 people aren't going to let a ferox get out even with 4 stabs |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2462
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:46:00 -
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Wait till you figure out that NPCs barely have capacitors, and they dont use cap. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.09.28 13:52:00 -
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Warde Guildencrantz wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:Pinky Feldman wrote:Warde Guildencrantz wrote:belt rats do warp, I have seen it before. We hotdropped a ferox in a low sec belt with noobships, killed it, and then some rats came in (2 frigs and a cruiser). At first everyone warped to our cloaked scout to avoid them, but then decided to warp back in and blob the rats with noobships just for the heck of it. (This was before noobship buff ) As we landed 10-20 from the rats, they warped off. The whole OP laughed because it looked as if they were running away.
but yeah they warp, not mission rats, only belt rats or gate rats Wow, so you decide to go blobbing and are suprised when they warp off. Maybe next time you should bring something the rats can fight instead of a huge blob. well if that ferox had taken a page from the NPC book of being a bad sport, hed have fit some stabs and escaped to mine another belt. nah, 10-12 people aren't going to let a ferox get out even with 4 stabs
...but, but...we were a lot less...I still think the rats had spies on our coms |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
922
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Posted - 2012.09.28 14:08:00 -
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All the poor npcs want is to orbit something and cash out lp. LEAVE THEM ALONE! a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
97
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Posted - 2012.09.28 14:53:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Wait till you figure out that NPCs barely have capacitors, and they dont use cap.
This.
NPCs using cap would just result in LOLPWN tactics involving one player full of neuts and another will full DPS vs Laser NPCs |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
196
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:05:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Wait till you figure out that NPCs barely have capacitors, and they dont use cap. This. NPCs using cap would just result in LOLPWN tactics involving one player full of neuts and another will full DPS vs Laser NPCs Or Nosferatu them yourself to help permarun a tank. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
528
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Posted - 2012.09.28 15:20:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Wait till you figure out that NPCs barely have capacitors, and they dont use cap. This. NPCs using cap would just result in LOLPWN tactics involving one player full of neuts and another will full DPS vs Laser NPCs Or Nosferatu them yourself to help permarun a tank.
i think someones missing the point of barley any capacitor. http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg |
Val'Dore
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2012.09.28 16:28:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:Or Nosferatu them yourself to help permarun a tank.
That used to be a staple tactic of the active tanker PvEr. It helped with surprise PvP too. |
Ptraci
3 R Corporation The Irukandji
630
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Posted - 2012.09.28 17:00:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:Forgive my Intrusion, but I think the only NPC ships that warp away are the ones which have story characters in them in missions and Arcs specifically. They are supposed to warp. afaik, engaged rats don't warp either.
This is false. Random belt rats also warp away, especially if you kill the low value rats first, the high value rats high tail it out. |
killorbekilled TBE
Quantum Link Company Tribal Band
116
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Posted - 2012.09.28 17:06:00 -
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i agreee with op , and while im here i would like to also ask why the hell can they still have you locked from 350km away, sometimes after you warp 350km away TrollorbeTrolled |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
352
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Posted - 2012.09.28 17:15:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Wait till you figure out that NPCs barely have capacitors, and they dont use cap.
And this is an issue because? Do you really want to have the client/server communication cluttered further by transmitting thus i.fo? Do you want the added lag because the server now has at least 2 additiobal calculations per rat to be made and checked?
I understand a desire for realism, but at some point there are limitations. Perhaps in 20 rats will fly normal ships wuth fittinfs and all. For now, simplifying things to reduce lag is something I fully endorse. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1637
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Posted - 2012.09.28 17:18:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:For reading this thread your IQ has decreased by 25% Damit now i cant even tyep or spel rigt. FU Muad Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
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Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1116
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Posted - 2012.09.28 17:36:00 -
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Why is this important? Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Gritz1
Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance
128
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Posted - 2012.09.28 17:47:00 -
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What are they even doing in the belts anyway? They seem to be just puttering around aimlessly, making random noises to each other. |
Josef Djugashvilis
614
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Posted - 2012.09.28 17:55:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:For reading this thread your IQ has decreased by 25%
Damn, that's me in negative figures then.
Ice mining here I come I took the wrong turn years ago. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
289
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Posted - 2012.09.28 20:08:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:Lord Ryan wrote:Low sec belt rats warp away. Never had one scrammed warp away. it happens. Now as some one who'd like to shoot players one day, id like to know that risking my ship wont result in some guy escaping from my impending doom pvp. or even if i fit warp core stabs to my ship, i might make the guy feel bad. thats never good for morale or sportsman ship. are warp core stabs even legal in low sec? Why wouldn't they be legal? If you put the stabs on to ensure you can't be prevented from warping, you're not using a few other mods. They aren't a guarantee that you won't get blown up before you get into warp.
If you want to make sure someone isn't getting away, you can use a better scrambler.
And you're not risking anything if they're warping away from you. |
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