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Kehro Urgus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
406
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Posted - 2012.09.30 02:18:00 -
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If the OP would just send the Goonswarm leader a heartfelt, tear jerking email stating he is mentally unstable and contemplating suicide he might send you 10 billion isk. It worked before. But instead you troll with a positive and forgiving attitude.
They must be furious. I found a dead cat on the side of the road so I -átook it home and put some honey on it and cooked it and then I ate it. Is that bad? do do do dooo... GÖ¬ GÖ½
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Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.09.30 02:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:You know, the "too good to be true" expression is actualy true sometime.
They offer somethinga long the line of free isk, crazy ship reimbursement plan, showing you the ropes of pretty much anything, logistical support for most activity, ratting/mining in thier relatively safe space and more. The first time I talked to a recruiter, it really sounded way too good to be true after researchign what soem stuff actually meant. (english not being a 1st alnguage is funny sometime)
Basicly, anyone losing isk to a goon recruitement is not putting any effort at all into it. You want to know what's funny? We do have a crazy ship reimbursement plan, we have members experienced in basically every aspect of the game, we have cheap-as-dirt private logistics services, and while our space isn't "safe" by any stretch of the word, avoiding getting blown is simple if you're not dumb. As far as "free ISK" - well, we paid dudes 500M ISK for every 'decent' propaganda poster (glorified image macros) and horrible video tutorials for newbies. A lot of our doctrine ships are over-reimbursed, so there's that too.
"We are seen as the bully of the game and we will offer you the moon if you join us."
FFS why do people walk into this without checking anything first? The more I read about goons, the more I think thier e-bully rep is only made by a bunch of raging idiots. |
Gorn Arming
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
54
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Posted - 2012.09.30 02:31:00 -
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Andski wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:You know, the "too good to be true" expression is actualy true sometime.
They offer somethinga long the line of free isk, crazy ship reimbursement plan, showing you the ropes of pretty much anything, logistical support for most activity, ratting/mining in thier relatively safe space and more. The first time I talked to a recruiter, it really sounded way too good to be true after researchign what soem stuff actually meant. (english not being a 1st alnguage is funny sometime)
Basicly, anyone losing isk to a goon recruitement is not putting any effort at all into it. You want to know what's funny? We do have a crazy ship reimbursement plan, we have members experienced in basically every aspect of the game, we have cheap-as-dirt private logistics services, and while our space isn't "safe" by any stretch of the word, avoiding getting blown is simple if you're not dumb. As far as "free ISK" - well, we paid dudes 500M ISK for every 'decent' propaganda poster (glorified image macros) and horrible video tutorials for newbies. A lot of our doctrine ships are over-reimbursed, so there's that too. Funny story--when I was a wee newbie I came up with what I thought was a totally awesome Merlin fit. I had a shield extender, a damage control, an MWD, and an afterburner, plus a warp disruptor. I couldn't fit any guns but figured it didn't matter. No one was going to kill my ******* Merlin this time.
I joined a strat op under Laz and managed--for once--to not get lost. At some point he heard of some dreads mucking around in a nearby system and called for a frigate volunteer to head a few jumps out and see what's up. Naturally I volunteered. Upon getting there Laz walked me through using the d-scan for the first time and asked me whether I had any capitals on scan. "How can I tell if they're capitals?" I replied. Anyway, I started naming off what I would later learn were different racial carriers and dreads while the fleet burned to my location. When they reached the gate I was told to warp to a particular moon and tackle the biggest ship I can find. I warped in, noting on Mumble that I "won't last long against those Star Destroyers" as at the time I had no concept of the relative ability of caps to engage subcaps. I just knew that they were big ships and I only had a little one. I got on grid and burned toward the capitals as they started jumping out, while a single Revelation was still in siege mode and stayed. The fleet landed minutes later and blew him up.
I ended up having several hundred million isk dumped on me and was given a faction heatsink from the dread. I think Laz told me to sell it, but in fact I've still got it in VFK, awaiting the day when I'm finally dumb enough to faction fit a Punisher or something and lose it in a blaze of incompetence.
So yeah, free money for newbies! Truly Goonswarm has everything.
The best part is that since the dread was sieged the entire time and I had no weapons, I didn't actually end up on the killmail at all. |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
369
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Posted - 2012.09.30 02:39:00 -
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Bigpimping wrote:Don't be put off. Goons are actually a pretty pleasant bunch. They have a strict rule of never scamming the same person twice..
ahahahahahahaha trolololo Good one Goons won't scam you twice& lightening never strikes the same place twice either http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaqC5FnvAEc
Nostalgie ist die Faehigkeit, darueber zu trauern, dass es nicht mehr so ist, wie es frueher nicht gewesen ist. -- Manfred Rommel-á |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
768
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Posted - 2012.09.30 03:11:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Andski wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:You know, the "too good to be true" expression is actualy true sometime.
They offer somethinga long the line of free isk, crazy ship reimbursement plan, showing you the ropes of pretty much anything, logistical support for most activity, ratting/mining in thier relatively safe space and more. The first time I talked to a recruiter, it really sounded way too good to be true after researchign what soem stuff actually meant. (english not being a 1st alnguage is funny sometime)
Basicly, anyone losing isk to a goon recruitement is not putting any effort at all into it. You want to know what's funny? We do have a crazy ship reimbursement plan, we have members experienced in basically every aspect of the game, we have cheap-as-dirt private logistics services, and while our space isn't "safe" by any stretch of the word, avoiding getting blown is simple if you're not dumb. As far as "free ISK" - well, we paid dudes 500M ISK for every 'decent' propaganda poster (glorified image macros) and horrible video tutorials for newbies. A lot of our doctrine ships are over-reimbursed, so there's that too. "We are seen as the bully of the game and we will offer you the moon if you join us." FFS why do people walk into this without checking anything first? The more I read about goons, the more I think thier e-bully rep is only made by a bunch of raging idiots. It's hilarious because everything he said is true. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Ch3244
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
139
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Posted - 2012.09.30 03:13:00 -
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o rly? |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.09.30 03:25:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:
It's hilarious because everything he said is true.
I didn't meant to say it's not. All I meant is I don't understand why some people fall "victim" to the recruitement. |
Seatox
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
41
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Posted - 2012.09.30 04:27:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:
It's hilarious because everything he said is true.
I didn't meant to say it's not. All I meant is I don't understand why some people fall "victim" to the recruitement.
Failure to do basic research. Like, 30 seconds of research. People are dumb and/or lazy. |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
786
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Posted - 2012.09.30 04:37:00 -
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goonswarm is a nice bunch and do not scam. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4421
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Posted - 2012.09.30 04:53:00 -
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Welcome OP to EVE Online, as you have discovered Goons should never ever be trusted. The only people they recruit are from their outside community and those who someone that is already a member vouches for, if you're new and neither of these apply to you do not trust a word they say. Also if you are a new player please be aware that they maintain alts in many of the starter corps for various highsec puposes, if you suspect an npc corp member is a Goon alt do not conduct business with these characters or volunteer any information about your activities or income, doing so will put you on their radar and mark you for future scamming should you prove profitable enough.
And for those claiming that Goons don't scam I say that you are liars, during my second week I was asking around the in game recruitment channel about a corp to join and a Goon responded trying to get me to pay a 500mil isk "deposit" to join. Naturally not being a complete moron I told this "recruiter" to kiss my pasty ass and I've been an adamant Goon hater ever since. Its good to be Gallente. |
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Sisohiv
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
101
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:03:00 -
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The only thing that kind of gets me is the login splash I got a few days ago had Goon Fed in the page and Goons do not recruit from the public. They have never lied about that but it didn't seem like they belonged on the public recruitment page when thats the case. |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4421
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:11:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:The only thing that kind of gets me is the login splash I got a few days ago had Goon Fed in the page and Goons do not recruit from the public. They have never lied about that but it didn't seem like they belonged on the public recruitment page when thats the case. I agree, it kind of sends mixed messages when CCP is introducing stricter crimewatch game mechanics one second and the the next post on a new player recruitment page information about a group that not only scams new players but does not actually recruit in game.
Maybe thats CCP's idea of keeping things balanced. Its good to be Gallente. |
Yolanta Geezenstack
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
35
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:20:00 -
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As mentioned before, yes, a small amount of research and you could have avoided falling for the scam.
But I like the calm tone of your post - most other threads were people complain about those Goon-recruitment scam were full of tears and rage. You give the impression that you haven' forgotten (yet) that this is just a silly game about spaceships. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
624
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:26:00 -
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Perfidious lies! I challenge the OP to a duel.
At the sun of course. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
1750
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:27:00 -
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lol you wanted to get into Goonswarm because of PvP... |
Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
4421
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Posted - 2012.09.30 05:32:00 -
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Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:As mentioned before, yes, a small amount of research and you could have avoided falling for the scam.
But I like the calm tone of your post - most other threads were people complain about those Goon-recruitment scam were full of tears and rage. You give the impression that you haven' forgotten (yet) that this is just a silly game about spaceships. You're absolutely right it is just a game until they start trying to convince new people (some of which may be minors or people with mental handicaps for all they know) to spend real life money on plex to cash in for the 500mil isk to give them. Thats where I start to take offense at their actions and begin to wonder why exactly CCP allows this, surely after all these years they're aware of what Goons do, then I notice how powerful they are in game, and how much money they're probably collectively paying CCP, guess thats why.
Its not that I don't feel a lot of rage over this, its just that I see this same crap happen in real life all the time, so why should I expect anything to be done about it in a video game? Its good to be Gallente. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
25
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Posted - 2012.09.30 07:11:00 -
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Sisohiv wrote:The only thing that kind of gets me is the login splash I got a few days ago had Goon Fed in the page and Goons do not recruit from the public. They have never lied about that but it didn't seem like they belonged on the public recruitment page when thats the case.
It was not a recruitement page it's a list of corp who provide support in any form to newbie. Goonwaffe having what proabbly amount to the biggest newbie program defiantely belongs on that list. |
Seatox
Northstar Cabal Fatal Ascension
41
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Posted - 2012.09.30 07:20:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:As mentioned before, yes, a small amount of research and you could have avoided falling for the scam.
But I like the calm tone of your post - most other threads were people complain about those Goon-recruitment scam were full of tears and rage. You give the impression that you haven' forgotten (yet) that this is just a silly game about spaceships. You're absolutely right it is just a game until they start trying to convince new people (some of which may be minors or people with mental handicaps for all they know) to spend real life money on plex to cash in for the 500mil isk to give them. Thats where I start to take offense at their actions and begin to wonder why exactly CCP allows this, surely after all these years they're aware of what Goons do, then I notice how powerful they are in game, and how much money they're probably collectively paying CCP in subscriptions and plex purchases, guess thats why. Its not that I don't feel a lot of rage over this, its just that I see this same crap happen in real life all the time, so why should I expect anything to be done about it in a silly game about spaceships.
Actually, I'm pretty sure the rules around scamming people is such that outright telling people to buy a PLEX so you can scam it out of them is utterly forbidden.
Now, if someone goes out and buys a PLEX, sells it, and then gets the Isk scammed out of them, that's their own stupid problem. This is EVE - CCP will gladly sell you plenty of rope, what you do with it is up to you. |
Travis117
APEX ARDENT COALITION Persona Non Gratis
20
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Posted - 2012.09.30 07:42:00 -
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Welcome to EVE were there is always someone that steals your cookie |
Raziel Malphaz
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.09.30 08:11:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:OP pray tell & link us to the website you read? you may find it's different from the one that we think you didn't read. IE their wiki which does state in big red letters https://wiki.goonfleet.com/Joining_GoonWaffe wrote:If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're **** out of luck. The wiki page is slightly out of date, goonwaffe is now Goonswarm Federation, however it is on their official wiki
The website I was told to apply was
www.goonfleet.net |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
665
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Posted - 2012.09.30 08:17:00 -
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I am truly, madly, deeply saddened by the lies & slander that our enemies will use to stop our recruitment efforts. Let me stand here before every single one of you as proof that Goonwaffe does not scam. I paid my 3bil security deposit & had all of my stuff moved to VFK. It was very professionally done & I have received my deposit back with 15% interest. Do not believe the bile spewed forth by our enemies, the ones that would do anything to stem the tide of righteousness. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
lanyaie
538
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Posted - 2012.09.30 08:21:00 -
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Good morning eve, see there's been some wonderfull threads. Hay |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
577
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Posted - 2012.09.30 08:50:00 -
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At least it wasn't Sommer Blink. From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4924
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Posted - 2012.09.30 11:55:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:And for those claiming that Goons don't scam I say that you are liars, during my second week I was asking around the in game recruitment channel about a corp to join and a Goon responded trying to get me to pay a 500mil isk "deposit" to join. Naturally not being a complete moron I told this "recruiter" to kiss my pasty ass and I've been an adamant Goon hater ever since.
This claim is demonstrably false because you were never in the recruitment channel.
Lose the 'i'm a new player guys!' gimmick because you're not. please leave |
Malphilos
State War Academy Caldari State
169
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Posted - 2012.09.30 12:58:00 -
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Euphoriiia wrote:Oh, it's this thread again....i swear i've seen this about 5,000 times
That's a good sign, it means more people are joining the game.
And discovering that Goons are complete asshats right off the bat.
Win-win, as it were. |
Nathan Ernaga
Applesauce Brigade Windowlicking Ninja Turtles
6
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Posted - 2012.09.30 13:02:00 -
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goons who ? If you have in your hands the key to the fulfillment of your life's ambition and superiority over most, if you are aware that there is an absolute power on hand (just over the basic moral principles) how far are you willing to go and through what you are willing to tread? |
Raziel Malphaz
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.09.30 13:13:00 -
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Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:As mentioned before, yes, a small amount of research and you could have avoided falling for the scam.
But I like the calm tone of your post - most other threads were people complain about those Goon-recruitment scam were full of tears and rage. You give the impression that you haven' forgotten (yet) that this is just a silly game about spaceships.
well said i know that now, lol but i can't stop laughing at the point i technically paid goons for entertaining me.... kinda like a prostitute :P i wasn't sure whether to say something like that but its funny to me :) |
Raziel Malphaz
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.09.30 13:17:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Perfidious lies! I challenge the OP to a duel.
At the sun of course.
i accept this challenge but as im still new lets do it in rookie ships in which i mean t1 frigs in hi sec :) jita for example? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4686
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Posted - 2012.09.30 13:29:00 -
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Paul Oliver wrote:Yolanta Geezenstack wrote:As mentioned before, yes, a small amount of research and you could have avoided falling for the scam.
But I like the calm tone of your post - most other threads were people complain about those Goon-recruitment scam were full of tears and rage. You give the impression that you haven' forgotten (yet) that this is just a silly game about spaceships. You're absolutely right it is just a game until they start trying to convince new people (some of which may be minors or people with mental handicaps for all they know) to spend real life money on plex to cash in for the 500mil isk to give them. Thats where I start to take offense at their actions and begin to wonder why exactly CCP allows this, surely after all these years they're aware of what Goons do, then I notice how powerful they are in game, and how much money they're probably collectively paying CCP in subscriptions and plex purchases, guess thats why. Its not that I don't feel a lot of rage over this, its just that I see this same crap happen in real life all the time, so why should I expect anything to be done about it in a silly game about spaceships.
Minors and the mentally handicapped should not be playing MMOs unsupervised. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Cede Forster
Enlightened Industries Test Alliance Please Ignore
97
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Posted - 2012.09.30 13:50:00 -
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Raziel Malphaz wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:Perfidious lies! I challenge the OP to a duel.
At the sun of course. i accept this challenge but as im still new lets do it in rookie ships in which i mean t1 frigs in hi sec :) jita for example?
somehow getting the feeling the entire thing was just made up |
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