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Ratamnim
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Posted - 2011.09.30 18:58:00 -
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I'll try to explain what has happened before our Corp was war-decked by a militia member...
A few of our members were on a small fleet looking for a bit of pew pew when they came across a neutral Cheeteh just sitting on a jump gate, Our Corp engaged the Cheeteh and killed the ship but left the pod, it was after this point the guy me killed informed us that he was Caldari Militia and should be blue to us below is the convo that happened in local.
n++[ 2011.09.25 20:31:30 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Oicx Local Channel n++[ 2011.09.25 20:33:29 ] Zee podfather > ******* ****** n++[ 2011.09.25 20:33:34 ] Zee podfather > thats a caldari scout alt n++[ 2011.09.25 20:33:42 ] Zee podfather > i am scouting for the fleet n++[ 2011.09.25 20:33:44 ] Zee podfather > ty n++[ 2011.09.25 20:33:48 ] Slarty FartBlast > lol n++[ 2011.09.25 20:33:58 ] Zee podfather > funny eh? n++[ 2011.09.25 20:34:02 ] Zee podfather > idiot n++[ 2011.09.25 20:34:06 ] Slarty FartBlast > yer u are] n++[ 2011.09.25 20:34:22 ] Slarty FartBlast > saat on a gate who is stupid ???????????? n++[ 2011.09.25 20:35:38 ] Zee podfather > you can send the isk to this account n++[ 2011.09.25 20:35:45 ] Zee podfather > or expect a wd n++[ 2011.09.25 20:35:48 ] Slarty FartBlast > **** off n++[ 2011.09.25 20:35:51 ] Zee podfather > from hells revenge n++[ 2011.09.25 20:35:58 ] Zee podfather > fine n++[ 2011.09.25 20:36:01 ] Zee podfather > should be fun n++[ 2011.09.25 20:36:16 ] Slarty FartBlast > yer im up for that n++[ 2011.09.25 20:36:40 ] Slarty FartBlast > u sit on a gate in a nute its your fault n++[ 2011.09.25 20:36:52 ] Slarty FartBlast > ]how are we to know u r a scout n++[ 2011.09.25 20:37:02 ] Zee podfather > that everyone in militia expet you retads have set blue n++[ 2011.09.25 20:37:27 ] Slarty FartBlast > well i am ceo of this corp and i have never got your mail n++[ 2011.09.25 20:37:33 ] Zee podfather > he is a well known alt i am trying to scout for mainusing 3 accounts - didnt think i would have a problem with cal militia ion the gate n++[ 2011.09.25 20:37:53 ] Zee podfather > seeing as everyone in the fleet i am in knows him n++[ 2011.09.25 20:37:54 ] Slarty FartBlast > well not known by me n++[ 2011.09.25 20:38:30 ] Zee podfather > too late - we are having a vote now n++[ 2011.09.25 20:38:31 ] Slarty FartBlast > look mate if u wanty to cry about it fine but i didnt know so not my fault n++[ 2011.09.25 20:38:43 ] Zee podfather > your guys have killed him before n++[ 2011.09.25 20:38:50 ] Zee podfather > we are just bringing up the mails now n++[ 2011.09.25 20:39:03 ] Zee podfather > they were told last time to set blue i remember n++[ 2011.09.25 20:39:04 ] Slarty FartBlast > well mail the ceo and we will set him blue n++[ 2011.09.25 20:39:09 ] Zee podfather > anyway fights on in abune n++[ 2011.09.25 20:39:34 ] Slarty FartBlast > what u and steel n++[ 2011.09.25 20:43:55 ] Zee podfather > should have just said srry and sent the isk n++[ 2011.09.25 20:52:41 ] Slarty FartBlast > **** off not my fault see above for reason n++[ 2011.09.25 20:56:02 ] EVE System > Channel changed to Vlillirier Local Channel
at this point Gunny decided he was going to get his 4 pennies worth in.
below is the convo that gunny had with one of our directors.
gunni From: OreGantic Sent: 2011.09.26 12:36 To: Ratamnim,
--------------------------------------------------------------- Channel ID: -25181720 Channel Name: Private Chat (alone) Listener: Slarty FartBlast Session started: 2011.09.25 20:44:50---------------------------------------------------------------n++[ 2011.09.25 20:44:56 ] Slarty FartBlast > hello n++[ 2011.09.25 20:44:57 ] Gunnyt31 > if your stance is **** off n++[ 2011.09.25 20:45:04 ] Gunnyt31 > i intend to comleted **** off n++[ 2011.09.25 20:45:10 ] Gunnyt31 > shoot a friendly alt again n++[ 2011.09.25 20:45:22 ] Slarty FartBlast > **** off i am not your kid n++[ 2011.09.25 20:45:37 ] Gunnyt31 > fine n++[ 2011.09.25 20:45:53 ] Slarty FartBlast > he was a nute and i have never recieved a mail tell me he is friendly so tuff n++[ 2011.09.25 20:46:09 ] Gunnyt31 > thats false n++[ 2011.09.25 20:46:17 ] Slarty FartBlast > no it not u **** n++[ 2011.09.25 20:46:22 ] Slarty FartBlast > its fact n++[ 2011.09.25 20:46:56 ] Slarty FartBlast > ????? n++[ 2011.09.25 20:47:19 ] Gunnyt31 > its not n++[ 2011.09.25 20:47:38 ] Slarty FartBlast > it is if i dont know its fair game i cant read minds n++[ 2011.09.25 20:47:49 ] Slarty FartBlast > he could have convoed me but nooooo n++[ 2011.09.25 20:47:56 ] Gunnyt31 > you were informed he was blue before n++[ 2011.09.25 20:48:26 ] Slarty FartBlast > no a member of this corp was not me and only i can set him blue to whole corp n++[ 2011.09.25 20:48:51 ] Gunnyt31 > then a smart member fo the corp would have informed you n++[ 2011.09.25 20:49:42 ] Slarty FartBlast > well thats life people forget but it should be the responcabitl of the person who wants the blue to mail each ceo n++[ 2011.09.25 20:50:22 ] Gunnyt31 > maybe you should have taken a differnt stance then **** off n++[ 2011.09.25 20:50:47 ] Slarty FartBlast > he had a bad atitude if i get **** i give **** n++[ 2011.09.25 20:51:00 ] Slarty FartBlast > just look at the way i spoke to u n++[ 2011.09.25 20:51:18 ] Gunnyt31 > yea with an attitude n++[ 2011.09.25 20:51:33 ] Gunnyt31 > seems to be a common theme with your corp n++[ 2011.09.25 20:51:47 ] Slarty FartBlast > yer look at your first 3 statements u threat you patronise n++[ 2011.09.25 20:53:21 ] Slarty FartBlast > thats all im going to say when i recieve mail i will blue but till then he is fair game
you can make your own decision about these convo's Please note that I wasn't on line when all this happened............. the most revealing convo was the one I had with Gunny the following day... you can read the convo below......
please go this post to see the outcome
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Ratamnim
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:02:00 -
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Part 2
This is the Convo that I had with Gunny the following day .........
please read through it a by the end hopefully you would have come to you own conclusion.....
n++[ 2011.09.26 22:26:28 ] Ratamnim > hiya sorry didn't think you were online atm sorry n++[ 2011.09.26 22:27:23 ] Ratamnim > i wanted to catch you to work out where things went wrong last night n++[ 2011.09.26 22:28:02 ] Ratamnim > i wasn't on at the time but i've somehow manged to get an ear bashing about it n++[ 2011.09.26 22:28:19 ] Gunnyt31 > this is the first major dipute weve had lol n++[ 2011.09.26 22:28:35 ] Ratamnim > it had to come at soe n++[ 2011.09.26 22:28:40 ] Ratamnim > some point* n++[ 2011.09.26 22:28:48 ] Gunnyt31 > and apparently its not the first time that you guys killed the alt lol n++[ 2011.09.26 22:28:58 ] Ratamnim > just need to sort it out so we don't get the same problem popping up again n++[ 2011.09.26 22:32:04 ] Gunnyt31 > i can asure there wont be another mistake lol n++[ 2011.09.26 22:32:12 ] Ratamnim > i've jjust go one question are we blue to them ? n++[ 2011.09.26 22:32:49 ] Gunnyt31 > you werer supposed to have been n++[ 2011.09.26 22:33:05 ] Ratamnim > i know that feelin ...... n++[ 2011.09.26 22:33:24 ] Ratamnim > is there a list of alt or alt corp that should be blue to malitia n++[ 2011.09.26 22:33:51 ] Ratamnim > or is there a way of forming one n++[ 2011.09.26 22:34:17 ] Ratamnim > cause i'll be honest to you we might have maybe 1 or 2 that re blue but that'll be it n++[ 2011.09.26 22:35:41 ] Gunnyt31 > there isnt a list but i mean after the first incident you would think theyd already be set blue n++[ 2011.09.26 22:36:25 ] Ratamnim > tbh i can't comment on that as i didn't reliase it had happened before but i will look into it n++[ 2011.09.26 22:38:53 ] Ratamnim > in good spirit if u get Zoe to eve-mail me the replacement value i'll get it sorted out for him. n++[ 2011.09.26 22:39:40 ] Ratamnim > one thing we don't need is friction within the malitia n++[ 2011.09.26 22:40:55 ] Ratamnim > and i'll see if i can gather names that should be blue to maltia and send it to the ceo's n++[ 2011.09.26 22:41:53 ] Gunnyt31 > is this your opinion or youc ceos lol? n++[ 2011.09.26 22:42:04 ] Gunnyt31 > cause yesterday it was pretty much **** off and war dec me n++[ 2011.09.26 22:42:08 ] Ratamnim > actually i'll mail oe myself n++[ 2011.09.26 22:42:48 ] Ratamnim > it was heat of the moment stuff 1 called another a name and got responce for that rather than the kill n++[ 2011.09.26 22:43:10 ] Ratamnim > i'm not going into the blame game cause there's no point to it n++[ 2011.09.26 22:43:50 ] Ratamnim > our ceo is more of a figure head .... i was one of the founding members of steel soldier when it formed for the fw when it first came out n++[ 2011.09.26 22:44:18 ] Ratamnim > the ceo was an alt of our ceo's dad n++[ 2011.09.26 22:44:40 ] Gunnyt31 > i understand n++[ 2011.09.26 22:44:46 ] Ratamnim > he's taking a break for a while and passed ceo over to Slart just to keep it in the family n++[ 2011.09.26 22:46:16 ] Ratamnim > i'm like the problem solver for the corp i take what ever job's need at the time to keep the Steel soldier family together.... n++[ 2011.09.26 22:46:52 ] Ratamnim > cause we are built up of 8 corps all with the seperate part of the game n++[ 2011.09.26 22:47:49 ] Ratamnim > like SS is Malitia we have a mining devision a null sec one , building and research n++[ 2011.09.26 22:48:00 ] Ratamnim > so we are totally self contain group n++[ 2011.09.26 22:48:55 ] Ratamnim > and member move freely within it as er what they want to do at that time n++[ 2011.09.26 22:49:09 ] Ratamnim > per* n++[ 2011.09.26 22:49:52 ] Ratamnim > anyway enough of the history lession n++[ 2011.09.26 22:50:14 ] Gunnyt31 > i mean its fine and dandy that your trying to be diplomatic about the issue but your ceo was quite clear yesterday it was pretty much **** off your wrong about getting pissed about losing an alt n++[ 2011.09.26 22:50:32 ] Gunnyt31 > cause your dual boxing scouting for the fleet n++[ 2011.09.26 22:52:04 ] Ratamnim > there was a problem about him being blue to us i agree ...but in the same sentance i have as various other today to find that he was not blue to them either n++[ 2011.09.26 22:52:23 ] Ratamnim > and u must agree than a nuet in low sec is free game n++[ 2011.09.26 22:53:20 ] Ratamnim > the nae calling ect afterwards wasnn't called for they are both to blame for that..... n++[ 2011.09.26 22:53:24 ] Ratamnim > name* n++[ 2011.09.26 22:54:07 ] Ratamnim > i've read the log's of the convo's n++[ 2011.09.26 22:54:34 ] Gunnyt31 > as have i lol but if you lost your alt a 2nd time to a militia corp n++[ 2011.09.26 22:54:42 ] Gunnyt31 > and they failed to set you blue the first time n++[ 2011.09.26 22:54:48 ] Gunnyt31 > and now killed you a 2nd time n++[ 2011.09.26 22:54:54 ] Gunnyt31 > your going to be a little heated n++[ 2011.09.26 22:56:22 ] Ratamnim > i'll havr to have a look back to try and fine the other kill as i didn't realise this had happened before ...are form our end we are going to put into effect a system that should stop this happening n++[ 2011.09.26 22:57:14 ] Ratamnim > the heated bit after was wrong on all front's but we both agree it was heat of the moment and nothing was personnal n++[ 2011.09.26 22:57:51 ] Gunnyt31 > it wasnt personal but at the same time i know this is you tryingto be diplomatic but your ceo was not and probably will not n++[ 2011.09.26 22:58:04 ] Gunnyt31 > 2nd time this has happened n++[ 2011.09.26 22:58:16 ] Gunnyt31 > and then chalk up the newb that was just smack talking everyone n++[ 2011.09.26 23:00:23 ] Ratamnim > i really don't want to end up having a pissing match about it ... i'm trying to find a wa to stop things like this happening again
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Ratamnim
Steel Soldier's
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:06:00 -
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Part 3
I know this is rather long and i thank you all for take the time out for it........
n++[ 2011.09.26 23:01:27 ] Gunnyt31 > you ceo stance was **** off and war dec me n++[ 2011.09.26 23:02:49 ] Ratamnim > umm at no point did we threaten to wd anyone that came from Zoe n++[ 2011.09.26 23:03:05 ] Ratamnim > n++[ 2011.09.25 20:35:38 ] Zee podfather > you can send the isk to this accountn++[ 2011.09.25 20:35:45 ] Zee podfather > or expect a wd n++[ 2011.09.26 23:03:18 ] Gunnyt31 > yea lol n++[ 2011.09.26 23:03:41 ] Gunnyt31 > but when i asked your ceo why is it now a second time this is happening n++[ 2011.09.26 23:03:56 ] Gunnyt31 > his stance was **** off and war dec me n++[ 2011.09.26 23:05:32 ] Gunnyt31 > and this is the 2nd time i have threatened a war dec because of something stupid that shouldt have happened in the first place lol n++[ 2011.09.26 23:07:07 ] Ratamnim > what has happened has happened nothing anyone can do about it n++[ 2011.09.26 23:07:34 ] Ratamnim > all we have to do it sort sort the communication problem out n++[ 2011.09.26 23:09:32 ] Ratamnim > there was an error's on all front's n++[ 2011.09.26 23:10:29 ] Gunnyt31 > i really dont see where there error is on our part n++[ 2011.09.26 23:11:42 ] Ratamnim > [ 2011.09.25 20:33:29 ] Zee podfather > ******* ****** n++[ 2011.09.26 23:11:57 ] Ratamnim > ^^ zee's first statement ^^^ n++[ 2011.09.26 23:12:12 ] Gunnyt31 > after he lost his ship to your corp for a second time n++[ 2011.09.26 23:12:20 ] Ratamnim > even i would tell him to F**k off n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:02 ] Gunnyt31 > alright well this conversation isnt going anywhere n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:14 ] Gunnyt31 > there is no failure to communicate on our part cause every militia corp has that corp set blue n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:18 ] Ratamnim > but if plp start convo with statement like that then most plp would respone in the same tone of voice n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:23 ] Gunnyt31 > not to mention its the seocnd time you all killed him n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:36 ] Gunnyt31 > and this time it was during a fleet n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:47 ] Ratamnim > differant fleets n++[ 2011.09.26 23:14:10 ] Ratamnim > and i know for a fact that 5 corps i malitia don't have Zee as blue n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:18 ] Ratamnim > but if plp start convo with statement like that then most plp would respone in the same tone of voice n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:23 ] Gunnyt31 > not to mention its the seocnd time you all killed him n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:36 ] Gunnyt31 > and this time it was during a fleet n++[ 2011.09.26 23:13:47 ] Ratamnim > differant fleets n++[ 2011.09.26 23:14:10 ] Ratamnim > and i know for a fact that 5 corps i malitia don't have Zee as blue |
Mallikanth
Awakened Brotherhood The Brotherhood Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:07:00 -
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er....so? And why in GD?
/me feels the lack of point in this thread.
I have no decent Signature because.. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=24223#post24223 |
Ratamnim
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:10:00 -
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Part 4 n++[ 2011.09.26 23:19:12 ] Gunnyt31 > and has only pissed me off more lol n++[ 2011.09.26 23:19:29 ] Gunnyt31 > cause you failed to understand if it was your neutral alt n++[ 2011.09.26 23:19:34 ] Gunnyt31 > and we killed it twice now n++[ 2011.09.26 23:19:47 ] Gunnyt31 > you probably would have responded with ******* ****** n++[ 2011.09.26 23:19:48 ] Gunnyt31 > too n++[ 2011.09.26 23:20:14 ] Gunnyt31 > especially if you were using it to scout for a fleet that had a cap fleet on stand by n++[ 2011.09.26 23:21:33 ] Ratamnim > but they wernot in same fleet n++[ 2011.09.26 23:21:42 ] Ratamnim > 1 sec trying to locate the kill mail n++[ 2011.09.26 23:24:46 ] Ratamnim > i have just gone through all of Zee losses and the only one involving SS was last night n++[ 2011.09.26 23:25:11 ] Ratamnim > i'm just gong to double check on our board n++[ 2011.09.26 23:26:12 ] Gunnyt31 > because it wasnt posted n++[ 2011.09.26 23:26:27 ] Gunnyt31 > usually when you kill a friendly neutral alt it doesnt get posted out of respect n++[ 2011.09.26 23:26:48 ] Gunnyt31 > and when your ceo commented as far as the isk went his stance was im not paying it cause its not my fault n++[ 2011.09.26 23:28:22 ] Ratamnim > I've just gone back though our killmails to Jan 11 and still no kills against Zee n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:01 ] Ratamnim > so you get the message ......................... WE HAVE NOT KILL ZEE BEFORE n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:16 ] Ratamnim > the boards are open have a look n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:39 ] Gunnyt31 > the n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:41 ] Gunnyt31 > kill n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:41 ] Ratamnim > so there was no way of us to know he should have been blue n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:42 ] Gunnyt31 > mail n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:44 ] Gunnyt31 > wasnt n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:45 ] Gunnyt31 > posted n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:49 ] Gunnyt31 > the n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:51 ] Gunnyt31 > kill mail n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:53 ] Gunnyt31 > has n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:54 ] Gunnyt31 > no n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:55 ] Gunnyt31 > t n++[ 2011.09.26 23:29:57 ] Gunnyt31 > been posted n++[ 2011.09.26 23:31:32 ] Ratamnim > get him to send me the lose post in him charater sheet# n++[ 2011.09.26 23:31:51 ] Ratamnim > all losses are recorded there n++[ 2011.09.26 23:32:19 ] Ratamnim > and i'll go through the corp entries all kill go in there but i'm betting that you wont find it n++[ 2011.09.26 23:32:47 ] Ratamnim > all the smack was heat of the moment and ment nothing n++[ 2011.09.26 23:32:51 ] Ratamnim > most plp do it n++[ 2011.09.26 23:33:23 ] Gunnyt31 > im talking about the smack your newb had with me and rigel n++[ 2011.09.26 23:34:18 ] Ratamnim > you've pushed to us the problem is we have killed him twice now and i'm saying i can find no proof of it plp evemail me the loss's sheet n++[ 2011.09.26 23:34:32 ] Gunnyt31 > does it really matter lol n++[ 2011.09.26 23:34:37 ] Gunnyt31 > ive issued my response n++[ 2011.09.26 23:35:19 ] Ratamnim > gunny your first line n that convo prob set the whole tone for the convo n++[ 2011.09.26 23:35:28 ] Ratamnim > [ 2011.09.25 20:44:57 ] Gunnyt31 > if your stance is **** offn++[ 2011.09.25 20:45:04 ] Gunnyt31 > i intend to comleted **** off n++[ 2011.09.26 23:36:00 ] Ratamnim > that was after he said hello n++[ 2011.09.26 23:36:31 ] Ratamnim > what do you expect aanyone to do when you went in like a bull in a china shop n++[ 2011.09.26 23:36:32 ] Gunnyt31 > yea cause i saw the convo and if that is how a ceo respoonds n++[ 2011.09.26 23:37:47 ] Gunnyt31 > to the intial convo of im not paying no matter what cause were not at fault n++[ 2011.09.26 23:37:56 ] Gunnyt31 > then you have my response n++[ 2011.09.26 23:37:59 ] Ratamnim > i'm saying the same to you you told hime to **** off twice right aqt the very start n++[ 2011.09.26 23:38:02 ] Gunnyt31 > it should be in your notifications n++[ 2011.09.26 23:40:24 ] Ratamnim > he really don't want to do that.... we are not a small little corp we are huge organization n++[ 2011.09.26 23:41:24 ] Ratamnim > and everyone getting heated of a kill that never happened n++[ 2011.09.26 23:42:15 ] Ratamnim > if the kill didn't happen then the convo for blue status would never have happened# n++[ 2011.09.26 23:43:09 ] Gunnyt31 > as stated in the beginning this is YOUR stance not your corps nor your CEOs stance n++[ 2011.09.26 23:43:22 ] Ratamnim > i'm here as the corp n++[ 2011.09.26 23:43:30 ] Ratamnim > i'm a founding Director n++[ 2011.09.26 23:43:39 ] Gunnyt31 > your ceo would be here n++[ 2011.09.26 23:43:52 ] Gunnyt31 > instead he closed convo last night and inisited he was right and wouldnt pay for the loss n++[ 2011.09.26 23:44:46 ] Ratamnim > the ceo is a pure figure head as someone has to have it n++[ 2011.09.26 23:45:12 ] Ratamnim > all founding Directors conduct corp activaties n++[ 2011.09.26 23:45:36 ] Ratamnim > there fore i'm here as Steel Soldier's and what i say within this matter goes n++[ 2011.09.26 23:46:53 ] Ratamnim > all i wanted was to sort out a system to stop this happening again...... n++[ 2011.09.26 23:47:07 ] Ratamnim > and all i', getting back is about a kill that never happened n++[ 2011.09.26 23:47:32 ] Ratamnim > and a notification that was never given n++[ 2011.09.26 23:48:30 ] Ratamnim > but i can look beyond all this so that the malitia can run without internal hassled n++[ 2011.09.26 23:50:26 ] Ratamnim > if zee wants to he is more than welcome to eve-mail me with a copy of his chatater shett losses and if we are in error we will replace everything
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mkint
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:13:00 -
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no content, wall of text, ranting, wrong forum... hmm... what else... |
Ratamnim
Steel Soldier's
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:19:00 -
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Almost there
n++[ 2011.09.27 00:06:40 ] Ratamnim > track down the info your self ............. if we are in error we will sort out everything that was lost+ bonus n++[ 2011.09.27 00:06:59 ] Ratamnim > but i think your find he was in error with his info n++[ 2011.09.27 00:08:02 ] Ratamnim > and as for the war dec please have a think very carefully about n++[ 2011.09.27 00:08:48 ] Ratamnim > i'll leave this in your court if i'm on i'll be more than happy to continue this n++[ 2011.09.27 00:08:51 ] Ratamnim > fly safe out there
At the time of writing this we have not received any eve-mail from Zee or Gunny
we would be grateful if you could post a reply with your conclusion.........
these chat logs have not be altered in any way to make the situation worse than it already is
Just one last thing could you please check to see if Zee podfather is blue to your corp......
sorry list was rather long but I thought it would better to include all of the convo's rather than just part's of it
Fly safe out there Ratamnim..
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Remarka Belle Locus
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:36:00 -
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This has what to do with any of us here? Solve your own problems, numbskull. |
Generals4
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:46:00 -
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I'm confused about the purpose of this thread with the exception of ensuring anyone who didn't know zee now know he's a caldari militia alt (which includes those who shouldn't know) |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2011.09.30 19:58:00 -
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wrong forum. [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
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CCP Zymurgist
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:05:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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Malken
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:20:00 -
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lol they blew up a neutral alt for me once and i didnt go on a rampage, it happens when they dont have it in corp.
the gunny t31 character is the worst person ever to lead any gangs. he uses profanity in every way he can and has generally failfits ordered to his fleets. he even had a guy in a dps fitted battlecruiser do scouting for the fleet while others in more suitable ships were told to stfu and do as he says. lots of the caldari militia stopped flying when he was in fleet as he wont listen to people with 8y ingame about sound ideas when he as a 6m nub only knows profanity.
just shoot him as he is a fail in every way possible.
[img]http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/0703/malken_force.jpg[/img]
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Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:23:00 -
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A dead Cheetah alt? Better gear up, bud. Don't you know? Entire Alliances have fallen because of a ganked Merlin.
I hope you're ready. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2011.09.30 20:40:00 -
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OP... as a general rule of thumb... try not to engage neutral ships unless you are prepared to a shitstorm of drama (i.e. a war dec) as almost every good militia corp (be it friendly or enemy) has a neutral alt flying about somewhere in the warzone.
Also... stop trying to make yourself out to be the morally superior one here. You killed a neutral... which means you GCCed... on a hunch no doubt. For all you knew... it could have been some random passerby who wanted to see what was happening. Either reimburse the man or point a gun at him. "Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one." ~Unknown |
Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:44:00 -
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I was there, bro....... I was there.....
LOL....the drama llama has gotten out of it's cage again |
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
1
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:46:00 -
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A few things
1) Neutral normally means you should try to get a name off em even if you point them while waiting for a reply from a main or corp ceo.
2) I would war dec you for the time i wasted reading that massive wall of text and wasted space on the CCP servers.
3) Just give the man his damned 20 mil isk ship and probably combat scanner probes/launcher and be done with it. you'll make more than that blowing **** up than wasting your time posting this.
Yep... I'd dec that. |
Kirith Vespira
Just Abide
0
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Posted - 2011.09.30 23:49:00 -
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Why do people post crap like this?!?!! If OP is so butthurt, maybe he should just go back to high sec mining in his Badger... |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
160
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Posted - 2011.10.01 01:58:00 -
[18] - Quote
Well thanks for the free intel now I can be sure that was a squid alt. And welcome to the Caldari militia, I suppose. If you want to get back at them consider changing sides. |
SaltyandSweet
Snuff Box
5
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Posted - 2011.10.01 05:48:00 -
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Haha personally I would've told that pilot to go eat a camel ****, gunny too and he knows this =] but then again I'm perms so he don't need a wardec. I've called him a ****** but in the end we usually makeup over a cup of hot cocoa. -_^ |
Super Chair
Hell's Revenge
6
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Posted - 2011.10.01 07:51:00 -
[20] - Quote
Kirith Vespira wrote:Why do people post crap like this?!?!! If OP is so butthurt, maybe he should just go back to high sec mining in his Badger...
They would like to farm thier faction war missions, its really, really hard to do that when you have rifters camping your station /o\ |
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Large Collidable Object
morons.
287
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Posted - 2011.10.01 11:37:00 -
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Kirith Vespira wrote:Why do people post crap like this?!?!! If OP is so butthurt, maybe he should just go back to high sec mining in his Badger...
The more important question is: Does anyone bother reading that crap? morons-áare recruiting. We're good at breeding! |
Mousserande
Scarecrows of Pompous Intentions
3
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Posted - 2011.10.02 02:28:00 -
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Jesus Christ, we all know that people in the militia are fat cats so why all this drama over a freaking Cheetah. PL blew up the jumpfreighter of that poor guy that did their POS refueling and you dont see him shiptoasting on the forums about it?
Also about engaging neutrals, just do it if you dont mind the sec los. There is no way I-¦d point some neutral dude and then ask in militia channel if he is an alt. |
Bad Messenger
draketrain
1
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Posted - 2011.10.02 03:11:00 -
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war = more targets, have fun. |
Ryuce
2
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Posted - 2011.10.02 10:02:00 -
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Am I the only one wondering how a Cheetah loss can generate this much rage?
Who can't replace a covert ops and more importantly why fly (or for that matter idle on a gate) a ship in low sec which you can't afford to replace?
Has everyone forgotten about the basic rules of thumb in this game? |
Rudeboy2000
The Cold Carl Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 11:46:00 -
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The issue here was - a militia corp that doesnt participate in fleets or contribute to fw and is in fw pureley to farm missions and therefore wasnt kept in the loop about who are blue alts shot a freindly - no big deal here - then replied '**** off'' in local when called an idiot and told to replace the ship- again no big deal --
to then start behaving like a bunch of babies - starting a forum thread to have a cry, drag up long and dull logs and at the same time expose the identity of a militia alt corp for all of eve to have a look at just cos they can't farm fw missions.
really they need to man up - do their fighting in space not on the forums
no one outside fw cares about you getting wd'ed, no one cares about this forum thread, no one cares about a neut alt getting shot by mistake. wow this is dull,
tbh if wd'ing fw corps that only really join fw to farm missions can create this much emo - i might start making a list and wd all of the corps who dont get more than a handful of kills each month and camp the mission hubs-
prepare for forum emo rage madness....... |
Jaak ONeill
Stargate Kommand
0
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Posted - 2011.10.02 16:27:00 -
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Rudeboy2000 wrote: The issue here was - a militia corp that doesnt participate in fleets or contribute to fw and is in fw pureley to farm missions and therefore wasnt kept in the loop about who are blue alts shot a freindly - no big deal here - then replied '**** off'' in local when called an idiot and told to replace the ship- again no big deal -- to then start behaving like a bunch of babies - starting a forum thread to have a cry, drag up long and dull logs and at the same time expose the identity of a militia alt corp for all of eve to have a look at just cos they can't farm fw missions. really they need to man up - do their fighting in space not on the forums no one outside fw cares about you getting wd'ed, no one cares about this forum thread, no one cares about a neut alt getting shot by mistake. wow this is dull, tbh if wd'ing fw corps that only really join fw to farm missions can create this much emo - i might start making a list and wd all of the corps who dont get more than a handful of kills each month and camp the mission hubs- prepare for forum emo rage madness.......
well deal with your disputes internally. be responsible you are running a corp. why drag everybody with you? still trying to figure out the point of this forum post. there is a reason you have access to convoes. not to put them on posts.
so now instead of resolving the issues, you just gave away the name of 1 of the neutral scouts. seriously awesome.
and by the way your intentions were to make all the other fw corp alienate gunny's corp? still trying to make sense to it all...
help |
King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
15
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Posted - 2011.10.02 16:55:00 -
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Friendly fire is a fact of life if you use neutral alts. I admit I didn't bother to read the convo and frankly I think it's irrelevant. If you use a neutral alt, you must ensure everyone knows it and even then you need to be cautious. When someone takes a shot at one that's in their own fleet, yeah, it's a problem and the same is true if they've flown with that alt repeatedly and it was in a prominent position (ie a fleet booster alt used nearly every day). But just a random cov ops sitting on a gate is generally considered fair game. There really isn't any way to tell if it's friendly, enemy or just a neutral on a joy ride.
The appropriate response is for the owner to inform you it was a friendly alt and ask you to blue it. At which point you should apologize, state you didn't know and mark it as a light blue or something so it doesn't happen again. You should also offer the loot/salvage from the wreck as partial compensation. The apology and loot returning is not an admission you did anything wrong, it's to state that you didn't knowingly attack a friendly and to maintain good relations. I also advise against posting on the forums about it, it can only make things worse. |
Freako X
Deviant Inc
43
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:51:00 -
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It's only a WD. /shrug. OP should stop crying. The emo faction neutral should grow some and realize they were neutral. Coordinating status with a bunch of unknowns is ... well ... not everybody is going to get the email or even read it.
It's not like you're in a PvE corp ... right? So you get more reds to shoot. Who cares?
The only downside is that decking a fellow faction corporation weakens your side when it comes to operations and roams. But since you are Caldari ... who cares!
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Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution
45
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Posted - 2011.10.03 06:11:00 -
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So much drama in the Caldari militia - no wonder you guys are getting smashed... Minnies lost an Archon to PL trying to get them to hot drop on the Amarr militia and I haven't heard them crying like this...
http://www.amarr-empire.net/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=241321
P.S. Getting killed by the guys you were trying to get to do your dirty work - Priceless...
Fix Faction Warfare CCP!!! |
Dorian Greene
1st MC
0
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Posted - 2011.10.03 07:24:00 -
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So what's new in militia now-a-days?
WTB escapist style summary |
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