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loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.10.09 04:42:00 -
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So I have been reading up on the new Crimewatch updates coming out in the next expansion and so far all I can say is it looks total ****.
Picture 1
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What is your take on it?
How can gankers profit from ganking?
lets visit the following scenario -
Player A shoots Player B and player B blows up.
Player B's wreck drops, now when you loot that wreck you are freely attackable by everyone,
CCP have given into the carebears demands and given into the demands of Miners wanting to AFK mine without fear of being ganked by buffing the EHP on all mining barges, with the upcoming crimewatch changes to be implemented this to seems as a way to give in to carebear demands.
They have now pretty much effectively given into remove all forms of unprovoked aggression in high sec.
When I first started playing eve, I played due to the nature of eve, and how you are never safe when undocked and you can partake in non-consensual pvp with other players.
Now it seems that this game while promoting piracy and doing bad deeds to people in-game, it is effectively ruined to cater to the highsec carebears demands of a safer playground for them to mine in. but yet CCP are still promoting it as a Combat Zone that anyone can be a part of.
Whats next? will low sec pvp also be outlawed because carebears cant pvp safely?
While this may seem like a rant, I would appreciate your thoughts on the above. While CCP is a business and needs to make money, they have ruined and lost sight of what makes eve a great game. |
loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.10.09 06:33:00 -
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Taoist Dragon wrote:It's just a different set of rules to work with thats all.
TBH i think it is fine.
Adapt or die. vOv
I like the quote - Adapt or Die.
You have given me food for thought my good sir. |
loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:34:00 -
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I guess we will see what happens in the new update. Maybe I should rat my sec status up 
Thanks for the input |
loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.10.15 11:24:00 -
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Nendail Smith wrote:loyalanon wrote:So I have been reading up on the new Crimewatch updates coming out in the next expansion and so far all I can say is it looks total ****. Picture 1Picture 2What is your take on it? How can gankers profit from ganking? lets visit the following scenario - Player A shoots Player B and player B blows up. Player B's wreck drops, now when you loot that wreck you are freely attackable by everyone, CCP have given into the carebears demands and given into the demands of Miners wanting to AFK mine without fear of being ganked by buffing the EHP on all mining barges, with the upcoming crimewatch changes to be implemented this to seems as a way to give in to carebear demands. They have now pretty much effectively given into remove all forms of unprovoked aggression in high sec. When I first started playing eve, I played due to the nature of eve, and how you are never safe when undocked and you can partake in non-consensual pvp with other players. Now it seems that this game while promoting piracy and doing bad deeds to people in-game, it is effectively ruined to cater to the highsec carebears demands of a safer playground for them to mine in. but yet CCP are still promoting it as a Combat Zone that anyone can be a part of. Whats next? will low sec pvp also be outlawed because carebears cant pvp safely? While this may seem like a rant, I would appreciate your thoughts on the above. While CCP is a business and needs to make money, they have ruined and lost sight of what makes eve a great game. Thank you. You actually made me laugh out loud. This does not in any way prohibit unprovoked aggression In fact it allows MORE unprovoked aggression. You see, when you gank someone unprovoked, then they get kill rights just like they do now, except once the changes go into place others will be able to be hired to fulfill for them and then they will catch you in a mission trying to fix your sec status because you're too stupid to be able to engage in combat any other way than against an enemy who doesn't want to fight, and they will activate said kill right and there will be MORE unprovoked aggression which will result in you losing your ship. In the end, it will be miners crying over mining barge losses, and you crying over pve ship losses and both will happen in the midst of "unprovoked aggression." Are you really so awful that you can't survive with kill rights on you that can be activated by anyone, or a hunting party?
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loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.12.03 01:02:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:"Crime" in highsec where suicide ganking isn't involved isn't a profit driven enterprise, in fact it's generally a at best a zero-sum game. You don't do it to make money you do it because you find it enjoyable. If changes to game mechanics make it so that people can't do crime in a way that they derive enjoyment from then they're going to stop doing it.
It's not like crimewatch exactly opens up a whole bunch of new opportunities to criminals, just more severe punishment for existing ones.
Freighter killmails beg to differ that it isnt profitable. |
loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.12.03 01:23:00 -
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Usually if 2 miners dropped from a hulk a miner gank made profit  [/quote]
Exactly
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loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.12.03 01:40:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:loyalanon wrote:Freighter killmails beg to differ that it isnt profitable. Did you even read my post?
qq more noob |
loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.12.04 22:41:00 -
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Aurelius Valentius wrote:Personally I don't get the big cry-me-a-river thing over this...
Gank-Ships is dirt cheap [even now days]
Get your ISK maker, do something for a couple hours [unless you don't have an ISK maker - which wouldn't suprise me with some people that gank as they seem to be rather stupid and unable to do anything that requires something beyond basic motor-skills, but I digress...]
Make some ISK, mining, missions, taking your mother wallet and charging up a plex, whatever....
Get a pile of cheap ships, sorry for you gankers - SUPER expensive catalysts... rather like paying for a titan I know...
Then go blow them up in fun... wait, this isn't fun now... sorry, I forgot, nothing really changed, you lose the ship then, you lose the ship now... what is the difference... hence, I think it's just the fact that now you might have to do some work for you fun, or steal you mom's credit card of something... but then that has punishments also... hmmm... yep you all is screwed.
What did you lose? |
loyalanon
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Posted - 2012.12.05 00:39:00 -
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Tiberius StarGazer wrote:As a total carebear who likes mining and making things who, up until last week was about to give up on this game because I felt that I would never be able to get revenge against all those who have wronged me (check my kill board, there is been a few). I took a good look into this and rubbed my dirty miners hands together.
At last a way I can get my own back.
So today I sold my kill rights, all of them, for a small fee and a few hours after doing so, a notification popped up saying a kill right had been completed.
I checked the kill boards.
My loss, 50m, their loss, 58m.
Victory.
Shortly after members of the pirate corp, threatened to come and find me and kill me. My simple reply, I have deep pockets, for every kill you make on me, I will add as a bounty on your corp, every kill right I will sell.
I cant fight you, but others can and you will have to lose 5 x my loss for wronging me.
I swear, I could almost taste the pirate tears... Or is that carebear tears?
Now I understand why all them pirates for all these years complained so loudly as soon as there was any threat to their power. It was now time for them to feel like victims. I have never, in all of my game time in eve, felt like I had actually "won" but now I had. So much so I sent the people on the kill mail a thankyou email and some extra ISK with encouragement to keep up the good work.
Oh revenge is so sweet.
I facepalmed. |
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