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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
828
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:48:00 -
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Unit757 wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Unit757 wrote:To lazy to read the 33 pages to see if this got put to rest, but I am dead set against kill rights being both front loaded, and generating a suspect flag.
It should be the way it is now, were having an active kill right on someone toggles a LE. Would make bounty hunters actually get to be bounty hunters, not some justice watchtower calling out bad guys for the locals to dog pile. Move to low sec, you don't care that much about flags over there and if station/gate guns bother you just move to null sec, it's a free to shoot who you want, when you want, the way you want and with who you want. Seems WH's are also very interesting, there's no Concord over there, no local, no noobs, no high sec carebears and afk miners (all bots of course!! ) I already live in low-sec. Guns don't bother me, I'm looking forward to having to deal with them less though of course.
Then let them come to you and engage, moar kills !!
brb |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1800
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:15:00 -
[662] - Quote
Yeah...those Something Awful guys seem really good at being assholes and then suddenly doing something humane and awesome. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
81
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Posted - 2012.10.16 15:23:00 -
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My only concern is, will this hurt new player retention? |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation
855
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Posted - 2012.10.16 18:48:00 -
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I'm more concerned about the retention of existing subscribers whose gameplay is likely to be negatively impacted. Most specifically the people who live in highsec most of the time but roam lowsec as their thing they do for PVP. Those guys are put in the worst possible position. I mean, I have 884 kills, almost all of them in highsec yet I've never done anything that resulted in a character having kill rights on me so it's not my problem, but it sure will be a problem for those guys.
The idea of actually giving a crap about how other people's gameplay may be negatively impacted by a change in mechanics might be an alien concept to the carebears though, I don't really expect them to understand. |
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
1436
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:48:00 -
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I am already assembling a crew to exploit this new system and use the mechanics to kill even more bears than before.
Needs quite a few logis, and ships to swap into though :) Think it through-we should be able to kill even more people than before. If we do it right-people will be terrified to ever shoot at a suspect. Going to take maybe a hundred players exploiting the suspect flag thing though to instill proper fear and respect. Hmmm |
Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
430
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:49:00 -
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Darius III wrote:I am already assembling a crew to exploit this new system and use the mechanics to kill even more bears than before.
Needs quite a few logis, and ships to swap into though :) Think it through-we should be able to kill even more people than before. If we do it right-people will be terrified to ever shoot at a suspect. Going to take maybe a hundred players exploiting the suspect flag thing though to instill proper fear and respect.
Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative. |
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
1436
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:52:00 -
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Anslo wrote:
Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative.
Pretty sure he meant "your", otherwise he would be saying that the ladies and gentlemen were to be elected CSM... Hmmm |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
831
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Posted - 2012.10.16 19:52:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Darius III wrote:I am already assembling a crew to exploit this new system and use the mechanics to kill even more bears than before.
Needs quite a few logis, and ships to swap into though :) Think it through-we should be able to kill even more people than before. If we do it right-people will be terrified to ever shoot at a suspect. Going to take maybe a hundred players exploiting the suspect flag thing though to instill proper fear and respect. Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative learns you to exploit game mechanics for free.
Fixed.
brb |
Lord Zim
1756
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:00:00 -
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your, and teaches. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Darius III
Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
1436
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:03:00 -
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Just to clarify: By exploit-I do not mean the type of exploit that is contra-EULA. I mean exploit in the classic sense, like exploiting resources.
The plan is to have bait suspects with logis to keep him repped while the pilot kills anyone who fires at him. Then have the logi pilots that get shot at swap ships, to shoot more people that shot at the logi as they got flagged. As people tried to shoot suspects, and the suspects shot back, it would come down to who has more people/better tactics.
the end result would be a spider tanking group of outlaws shooting any SOB do gooders that would attempt to kill outlaws. if it was done properly-these bears would know better than to fire at any suspect at any time.
Remember the original plan CCP had in their finite wisdom was to make it so you wouldn't be able to shoot back as a suspect. Thank goodness they shut down the guy who came up with that particular brilliant idea. we can turn this into lulz and kills-just be patient, assemble your crew and make it work. D3 Hmmm |
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1841
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:10:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative. So ? People voted for him ... all fair and square. (i didn't vote for him ^_^)
He's representing a part of the community ... he got voted by them ... ... and he stands for whatever **** he's throwing around.
In before whines about highsec not having an *elected* CSM Representative ... ... but oh wonder, oh wonder, what might be the reason for this ............. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
390
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:11:00 -
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Darius III wrote: the end result would be a spider tanking group of outlaws shooting any SOB do gooders that would attempt to kill outlaws. if it was done properly-these bears would know better than to fire at any suspect at any time.
Remember the original plan CCP had in their finite wisdom was to make it so you wouldn't be able to shoot back as a suspect. Thank goodness they shut down the guy who came up with that particular brilliant idea. we can turn this into lulz and kills-just be patient, assemble your crew and make it work. D3
Darius, your solution to stop those SOB pubbies is a brilliant plan. Well done Sir.
After a while, those bounty hunters (like Destiny) can get their kills without interruption. The gankers can gank each other without interference from miners. The l33ts can still be l33ts and the wannabes will, like die anyway.
Just imagine, the only people killing each other are the ones who like, kill each other. WOW. What a concept!!
Eve is fixed. Hoorah!!
/me sighs. Getting more and more convinced that CCP should like, fix nullsec. Give these people something to do!
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1841
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:11:00 -
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Darius III wrote:Just to clarify: By exploit-I do not mean the type of exploit that is contra-EULA. I mean exploit in the classic sense, like exploiting resources.
The plan is to have bait suspects with logis to keep him repped while the pilot kills anyone who fires at him. Then have the logi pilots that get shot at swap ships, to shoot more people that shot at the logi as they got flagged. As people tried to shoot suspects, and the suspects shot back, it would come down to who has more people/better tactics.
the end result would be a spider tanking group of outlaws shooting any SOB do gooders that would attempt to kill outlaws. if it was done properly-these bears would know better than to fire at any suspect at any time.
Remember the original plan CCP had in their finite wisdom was to make it so you wouldn't be able to shoot back as a suspect. Thank goodness they shut down the guy who came up with that particular brilliant idea. we can turn this into lulz and kills-just be patient, assemble your crew and make it work. D3 Wait, what ? Are you 100% definitely sure that they are able to actually swap ships, with all these new flags thrown around ? Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
831
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:13:00 -
[674] - Quote
Lord Zim wrote:your, and teaches.
Fishing is an old sport requiring patience and the appropriate bait. Distressing activity+nature:awesome
Thx Zim brb |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
831
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:16:00 -
[675] - Quote
Darius III wrote:Just to clarify: By exploit-I do not mean the type of exploit that is contra-EULA. I mean exploit in the classic sense, like exploiting resources.
The plan is to have bait suspects with logis to keep him repped while the pilot kills anyone who fires at him. Then have the logi pilots that get shot at swap ships, to shoot more people that shot at the logi as they got flagged. As people tried to shoot suspects, and the suspects shot back, it would come down to who has more people/better tactics.
the end result would be a spider tanking group of outlaws shooting any SOB do gooders that would attempt to kill outlaws. if it was done properly-these bears would know better than to fire at any suspect at any time.
Remember the original plan CCP had in their finite wisdom was to make it so you wouldn't be able to shoot back as a suspect. Thank goodness they shut down the guy who came up with that particular brilliant idea. we can turn this into lulz and kills-just be patient, assemble your crew and make it work. D3
Yeah because of Alpha ! -derp, or is it Falcon?
Whatever... brb |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1248
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:27:00 -
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Darius, we should have a go at it. I have...ideas.
Also like half a dozen logistics. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
831
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:29:00 -
[677] - Quote
Destiny Corrupted wrote:Darius, we should have a go at it. I have...ideas.
Also like half a dozen logistics.
See? -more pvp, not less. brb |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1248
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:30:00 -
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Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Darius, we should have a go at it. I have...ideas.
Also like half a dozen logistics. See? -more pvp, not less. Oh no, hohoho. No.
Nooooo.
It will be nothing like that. You'll be on the forums bitching within one week. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance
31
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:34:00 -
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Seems to me like this is more of the same from CCP, that is, changing stuff that isn't broken in order to make the consumer play the game how THEY think it should be played. Less of a sandbox and more of a 'It's my ball and I make the rules'. It is the same sort of thing that makes them nerf certain things that don't need nerfing and buff things that don't need buffing. It's their sandbox, they can take a dump in it if they want, you just get to play in it. |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance
34
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Posted - 2012.10.16 20:52:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:People who don't PVP in highsec telling highsec PVPers how new mechanics will affect highsec PVP.
Sure is valuable discourse there.
^ this ^ |
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1844
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:09:00 -
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Korinne wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:People who don't PVP in highsec telling highsec PVPers how new mechanics will affect highsec PVP.
Sure is valuable discourse there. ^ this ^ Last time i've heard, you were nowhere near highsec either, you armchair-soldier ... Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1800
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:13:00 -
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Korinne wrote:Seems to me like this is more of the same from CCP, that is, changing stuff that isn't broken in order to make the consumer play the game how THEY think it should be played. Less of a sandbox and more of a 'It's my ball and I make the rules'. It is the same sort of thing that makes them nerf certain things that don't need nerfing and buff things that don't need buffing. It's their sandbox, they can take a dump in it if they want, you just get to play in it. lol...what? Bounties aren't broken? How is CCP forcing anybody to play how they want with this? Your entire statement makes no sense at all. Regardless of this fact, a sandbox is still in a box and therefor the box has walls. You can play in the sand all you want so long as said sand stays with in those walls.
You could call life a sandbox but I still can't ******* fly. Damn that God for not letting me play in my sandbox the way I want! EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1460
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:16:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Anslo wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative. So ? People voted for him ... all fair and square. (i didn't vote for him ^_^) He's representing a part of the community ... he got voted by them ... ... and he stands for whatever **** he's throwing around. In before whines about highsec not having an *elected* CSM Representative ... ... but oh wonder, oh wonder, what might be the reason for this ............. Actually every member of the CSM is supposed to represent the entire player community, not a select few.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Megos Adriano
Junkyard Dawgs
17
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:21:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Not at all, I'm saying that if it only takes one shot to get a kill right against me, I can make sure I get plenty of fights in hubs.
But they don't want plenty of "fights" in hubs, and they for sure don't want people to be able to shoot first. What these people want is a safe, PvPCAREBEAR environment where they can gank nubs with total security. And boom goes the dynamite. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1800
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:24:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Anslo wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative. So ? People voted for him ... all fair and square. (i didn't vote for him ^_^) He's representing a part of the community ... he got voted by them ... ... and he stands for whatever **** he's throwing around. In before whines about highsec not having an *elected* CSM Representative ... ... but oh wonder, oh wonder, what might be the reason for this ............. Actually every member of the CSM is supposed to represent the entire player community, not a select few. Yeah...thats the way it SHOULD be. Unfortunately they see it another way. The represent their "constituents", those that voted for them. Not that they actually know who those people are. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1603
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:25:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:Darius, we should have a go at it. I have...ideas.
Also like half a dozen logistics. See? -more pvp, not less. Oh no, hohoho. No. Nooooo. It will be nothing like that. You'll be on the forums bitching within one week. Do your best to get that time before 5 days, please. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1844
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:30:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Anslo wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen, you're elected CSM Representative. So ? People voted for him ... all fair and square. (i didn't vote for him ^_^) He's representing a part of the community ... he got voted by them ... ... and he stands for whatever **** he's throwing around. In before whines about highsec not having an *elected* CSM Representative ... ... but oh wonder, oh wonder, what might be the reason for this ............. Actually every member of the CSM is supposed to represent the entire player community, not a select few. Why would people seek out other people to vote for them, if they can only appeal to a specific amount of people, but never to the whole population ?
I mean ... of course, hopefully all CSM members try to do what's best for the GAME, but if they didn't care for those who voted for them ... they wouldn't get voted again. Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Korinne
The Partisan Brigade Republic Alliance
35
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Posted - 2012.10.16 21:39:00 -
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Last I checked I wasn't that much of an armchair pilot. Just because I'm not -10 anymore doesn't mean I'm not killing the crap out of people. Also, I'm in the process of making half a dozen thrasher alts just to get around this. Thrasherfleet ho! |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1603
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Posted - 2012.10.16 22:10:00 -
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Korinne wrote:Last I checked I wasn't that much of an armchair pilot. Just because I'm not -10 anymore doesn't mean I'm not killing the crap out of people. Also, I'm in the process of making half a dozen thrasher alts just to get around this. Thrasherfleet ho! op success. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
218
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Posted - 2012.10.16 22:18:00 -
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Gotta say that you could hand most of high sec a nuke pistol and they would still not be able to hit ****. I'm gonna get as many kills rights on me as I can, then fly around with a fleet behind me that includes more than one logi and some lads that don't mind losing the occasional tornado to volley people.
If high sec bears think that PVPers are going to be worried about these changes and the possibility that some one might activate their kill rights and take a shot at them then they have a fun awakening coming to them.
Yes the high sec merc corps will enjoy this (as will we), but to think that it will cause us too much of an issue...not sure (read highly doubtful). Most bears wont activate the kill rights. I guess some people may not want to fly afk in their freighters anymore with kill rights. Yes CCP are making life harder for pirates and gankers... just adapt and overcome. |
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