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Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
1480
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:21:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:I'm gay. What is the point of your post?
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
434
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:22:00 -
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highonpop wrote:Olleybear wrote:
We, the high sec community, are independent in nature
BBAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you depend on the pvp nerfs of highsec you depend on the large highsec markets to buy and sell from you depend on CONCORD killing the people who try and gank you you depend on the NPC Empire Stations being there and being dockable The truest independence in this game is moving to an empty pocket of space far away from the securities of highsec or SOV space and being self-sufficient. And you sir, depend on the miner.
Just sayin'.
Funny OP. Down with tyranny. Viva la Revolution. YEAH!!!!
We shall never surrender!!
Oh. Wait. I don't even log. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1384
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:27:00 -
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I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Nicolo da'Vicenza
Air The Unthinkables
1978
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:29:00 -
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Reticle wrote:Nicolo da'Vicenza wrote:Emotion-based appeal against calls for game balance thread #21013 Contentless response #1199944457232 Reticle calling the kettle black. |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1886
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:36:00 -
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POD ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
733
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:40:00 -
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Marlona Sky wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:I'm gay. What is the point of your post? Sir and/or madam,
Sexual preference is always relevelant to the discussion.
Yours,
EnderCapitalG |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
434
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:40:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare?
I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1886
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:45:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare? I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on. On me ! :D
I can promise easily that every single ISK will work towards the destruction of one or more ships and that it will tripple, quadruple ... hell ... i put in one million ISK and destroy hundreds !
If that's not a great investment, then i don't know what it is ! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
225
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:46:00 -
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DarthNefarius wrote:Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums like a little ***** until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up.
Just like the miners . Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Robert De'Arneth
145
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:51:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare? I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on.
I will take the dare, I am not sure I could handle the flames if people knew I only had 256,348 ISK. You have not lived until you have been Wated by Jim!!-á-á |
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Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1384
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:51:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare? I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on. That doesn't sound like a whole lot.
But see, when you say "don't know what to spend it on," you're describing a very common carebear problem. What exactly is the point of playing solely for monetary gain, if the money will never be utilized for some kind of interesting purpose?
I could understand on one hand doing it for bragging rights, but the people at the top have tens of trillions, and no carebear can compete with that. So, what is the point? (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
434
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:52:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare? I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on. On me ! :D I can promise easily that every single ISK will work towards the destruction of one or more ships and that it will tripple, quadruple ... hell ... i put in one million ISK and destroy hundreds ! If that's not a great investment, then i don't know what it is ! Sounds fair. Send me a mail. I gotta work today and log rarely.
When I DO see the mail I'll send ya some.
PS: I'll send you enough for an accountant too. I want quarterly reports on your progress. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1886
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Posted - 2012.10.19 19:54:00 -
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Touval Lysander wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare? I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on. On me ! :D I can promise easily that every single ISK will work towards the destruction of one or more ships and that it will tripple, quadruple ... hell ... i put in one million ISK and destroy hundreds ! If that's not a great investment, then i don't know what it is ! Sounds fair. Send me a mail. I gotta work today and log rarely. When I DO see the mail I'll send ya some. PS: I'll send you enough for an accountant too. I want quarterly reports on your progress. Not sure if serious ... but will do. ^_^ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
434
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:01:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare? I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on. That doesn't sound like a whole lot. But see, when you say "don't know what to spend it on," you're describing a very common carebear problem. What exactly is the point of playing solely for monetary gain, if the money will never be utilized for some kind of interesting purpose? I could understand on one hand doing it for bragging rights, but the people at the top have tens of trillions, and no carebear can compete with that. So, what is the point? Actually Destiny. It's a watershed amount. I went away 4 months. I came back and dumped 30b of BPO's, towers and all sorts of stuff. Can't be assed anymore.
I sat in recruiting for a week, hoping, wishing. Ended up trolling it because that's all there is to do in it.
I'm too ham-fisted to be l33t, my eyes go blurry and I mis-click. My TZ is stuffed to be part of the big ops, my manner is too bruff to be a CEO, my attitude is too much of a hooligan to be taken seriously.
I should not be playing Eve. But I can't not.
Where can I seek help?
So, today, right now, all I own is a PvP fit Cynnie and I'm working up a cloaky scout/salvager char to, I don't know, bring some joy to someone, somewhere, sometime.
That's my sacrifice to Eve
(PS: Solstice, saw your mail.)
"I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
434
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:04:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Solstice Project wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare? I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on. On me ! :D I can promise easily that every single ISK will work towards the destruction of one or more ships and that it will tripple, quadruple ... hell ... i put in one million ISK and destroy hundreds ! If that's not a great investment, then i don't know what it is ! Sounds fair. Send me a mail. I gotta work today and log rarely. When I DO see the mail I'll send ya some. PS: I'll send you enough for an accountant too. I want quarterly reports on your progress. Not sure if serious ... but will do. ^_^ Edit: I have my own mailing list ... that would work as daily progress report too. ^_^ There ya are dude. Sent some pocket money. "I've always been mad, I know I've been mad, like the most of us...very hard to explain why you're mad, even if you're not mad..."
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Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1886
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:06:00 -
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Thank you for your VERY GENEROUS donation ! >:D Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1385
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:25:00 -
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Looks like something good came from this thread, lol.
If you want to have some fun, go find a bear corp, dec them, and see if you can turn 40 into 41. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
qDoctor Strangelove
TaskF0rce Executive Vice Empire
43
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:28:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:My fellows,
By now we are all very aware of the continued attacks against the high sec population. The current propaganda is against high sec game mechanics. This propaganda is cleverly designed, unending, and has but one goal in mind, to get us under someone elses control.
We, the high sec community, are independent in nature, not all that interested in bothering anyone, and yes I am going to say it... we are rich. All three of these things combined make for a population which can not be controlled nor can that population be told what to do. This is called freedom.
Dictators do not like freedom. Dictators have a need to control everyone and everything around them. Dictators want to dictate what you can do and when you can do it. Why? They all have their reasons. The reasons do not matter. The end result of us pilots being under their control is the same no matter the reason.
How are these Eve dictators trying to get us, the peaceful high sec citizen, under their control? They are trying to strip our high sec protections. Once high sec protections are stripped away what are we left with? We are left with low sec / null sec game mechanics. Either of these game mechanics enables we, the high sec pilots, to be controlled by those more powerful than us. We cant earn unless they say. We cant gather materials unless they say. We are controlled and lose our freedom.
Freedom allows you to make your own choices. Freedom is dangerous because you cant be controlled. Be free my brothers.
As always, keep those mining yields high, earn tons of isk, and fly safe.
How about you getting out of my economy Mr independent??? Without Null Sec wars and empire ganking there would be no place for neither PVP'rs onor industrialists.
To be safe in empire, all you have to do is fit your ship ... |
Nyla Skin
Maximum fun chamber
112
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Posted - 2012.10.19 20:40:00 -
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Olleybear wrote: Freedom allows you to make your own choices.
Sometimes you have to defend them.
Ive got no idea what the topic is about though |
Shokenaw
Viziam Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:06:00 -
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OP's EVE Killboard
Troll on sir.
EDIT: To you idiot carebears who actually think he is serious, do some damn research on who you're rallying behind mindless iskzombies |
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Olleybear
I R' Carebear
139
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:07:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Touval Lysander wrote:Destiny Corrupted wrote:I like that post, but there's one thing I want to know: when you say "we are rich," how much are you talking about exactly? I want to know what's "rich" for a bear these days. Truth or dare? I got 40b and I don't know what to spend it on. That doesn't sound like a whole lot. But see, when you say "don't know what to spend it on," you're describing a very common carebear problem. What exactly is the point of playing solely for monetary gain, if the money will never be utilized for some kind of interesting purpose? I could understand on one hand doing it for bragging rights, but the people at the top have tens of trillions, and no carebear can compete with that. So, what is the point? If we define rich as the dictionary does:
Quote:abundantly supplied with resources, means, or funds
that is what is rich for a bear these days. Not having to 'dig the change out of the pod goo' to get right back into your next ship when you lose it also fairly describes a person as rich. At least to me anyway.
Considering people at the top having tens of trillions of isk, yes that is more along the lines of Tycoon wealth. My hats off to those who manage this great feat. There is no need nor desire to compete with this level of wealth accumulation unless a pilot wants, as you pointed out, the bragging rights.
As for the point of being rich, power comes from wealth. The power to control ones own life is one of the things wealth allows. Being able to do what you want when you want is more easily achieved when your rich. Doing what you want when you want is called Freedom. Freedom is the point of being rich. When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
139
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:12:00 -
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Shokenaw wrote:OP's EVE KillboardTroll on sir. EDIT: To you idiot carebears who actually think he is serious, do some damn research on who you're rallying behind mindless iskzombies Sir,
It warms my heart and gives me the warm fuzzies that you have linked my kill board statistics. This gives me the opportunity to point out that you will be hard pressed to find any miners, mission runners, or high security space ganks.
Thank-You,
Olleybear When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1385
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:15:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:As for the point of being rich, power comes from wealth. The power to control ones own life is one of the things wealth allows. Being able to do what you want when you want is more easily achieved when your rich. Doing what you want when you want is called Freedom. Freedom is the point of being rich. Okay, I absolutely agree with that sentiment, but only in regard to real life. A video game is different, because you have a limited amount of things you can buy, and a limited amount of things you can do. Because of that I find that it is easier to be free in a game when you are strong, than when you are rich. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Olleybear
I R' Carebear
142
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:38:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Olleybear wrote:As for the point of being rich, power comes from wealth. The power to control ones own life is one of the things wealth allows. Being able to do what you want when you want is more easily achieved when your rich. Doing what you want when you want is called Freedom. Freedom is the point of being rich. Okay, I absolutely agree with that sentiment, but only in regard to real life. A video game is different, because you have a limited amount of things you can buy, and a limited amount of things you can do. Because of that I find that it is easier to be free in a game when you are strong, than when you are rich. Yes, being strong in game gives a pilot more freedom. I definitely agree with this. Being rich enables a person to be stronger than if they were poorer in game.
For instance, if a person loses a hurricane in pvp and is unable to get back into a hurricane for more pvp because they can only afford a cruiser, their strength and force projection is diminished. They may not be able to continue fighting as a result. This is a loss of freedom for that pilot because they are now docked up until the 'bad people' go away.
On the extreme side of wealth, the tycoon with wealth in the tens of trillions is a strength unmatched except for full blown alliances. The tycoon can afford pay PL to annoy someone and / or possibly kick out a weaker alliance in null. That is strength and power from being extremely wealthy in a game.
Yes, this is a game. A serious game where people use all the tricks in real life to get what they want in game. Up to and including trying to convince other pilots that it is only a game and should not be taken so seriously. Its a good psychological tactic to use against an alliance so they dont fight as hard. "Hey! Its only a game! I know we lost the fight, lets play some Go-Fish." When it comes to PvP, I am like a chiwawa hanging from a grizzley bears pair of wrinklies for dear life. |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1388
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Posted - 2012.10.19 21:41:00 -
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I like your answer. Not a whole lot to argue with there.
Just want to point out for any prospective pvpers though, that if they're poor but want to pvp, there's a whole bunch of corporations and alliances that will buy and replace your low-end ships. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Asaryuu
Paragon Ltd.
7
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Posted - 2012.10.19 22:13:00 -
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How does one turn PvP into Isk? Taking the mods? How many losses can sustain before you have no more isk for pvp? Shouldn't a pvper have a couple alts in Hi Sec being "Carebears" to turn the mining/missions into isk for the pvper?
How does a solo account have fun being only a pvper? |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1390
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Posted - 2012.10.19 22:25:00 -
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Asaryuu wrote:How does one turn PvP into Isk? Taking the mods? How many losses can sustain before you have no more isk for pvp? Shouldn't a pvper have a couple alts in Hi Sec being "Carebears" to turn the mining/missions into isk for the pvper?
How does a solo account have fun being only a pvper? If all you do is fight for 0.0 powers, then you won't make money on pvp. You're basically fighting for the right to utilize the 0.0 space to make money.
If you do high-sec, low-sec, or even wormhole pvp, it's possible to be profitable. Very profitable. I've been 11 figures in the black since I started doing this stuff as my full-time EVE activity around 2008. But you have to be focused, and not play the game like you're playing a deathmatch. That means playing to win. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1604
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Posted - 2012.10.19 22:38:00 -
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Olleybear wrote:Yes, this is a game. A serious game where people use all the tricks in real life to get what they want in game. Up to and including trying to convince other pilots that it is only a game and should not be taken so seriously. Its a good psychological tactic to use against an alliance so they dont fight as hard. "Hey! Its only a game! I know we lost the fight, lets play some Go-Fish." It is only a game, and we really don't take it that seriously.
Not like people are being forced at blaster-point to join fleets for shooting structures with Boat, they sign up on their own ~~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1899
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Posted - 2012.10.19 22:50:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Olleybear wrote:As for the point of being rich, power comes from wealth. The power to control ones own life is one of the things wealth allows. Being able to do what you want when you want is more easily achieved when your rich. Doing what you want when you want is called Freedom. Freedom is the point of being rich. Okay, I absolutely agree with that sentiment, but only in regard to real life. A video game is different, because you have a limited amount of things you can buy, and a limited amount of things you can do. Because of that I find that it is easier to be free in a game when you are strong, than when you are rich. Imagine what i'd do with "only" 100 Billion ISK ... and these people just SIT on hundred times that much ... :( Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Ludi Burek
The Player Haters Corp
173
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Posted - 2012.10.20 00:37:00 -
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Finally! A non idiotic troll. One could even say a clever troll. |
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