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Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.26 14:45:00 - [1] [ 2005.03.26 13:57:05 ] (combat) Inferno Torpedo I belonging to Unknown hits you, doing 1727.1 damage. [ 2005.03.26 13:57:06 ] (combat) Mercenary Commander barely scratches you, causing 15.9 damage. [ 2005.03.26 13:57:07 ] (combat) Mercenary Wingman aims well at you, inflicting 34.3 damage. [ 2005.03.26 13:57:08 ] (combat) Mercenary Commander lightly hits you, doing 19.8 damage. [ 2005.03.26 13:57:09 ] (combat) Mercenary Commander lands a hit on you which glances off, causing no real damage. [ 2005.03.26 13:57:10 ] (combat) Inferno Torpedo I belonging to Unknown hits you, doing 1298.7 damage. [ 2005.03.26 13:57:11 ] (combat) Inferno Torpedo I belonging to Unknown hits you, doing 1998.0 damage. [ 2005.03.26 13:57:12 ] (combat) Mercenary Wingman places an excellent hit on you, inflicting 70.8 damage. [ 2005.03.26 13:57:13 ] (notify) Ship is out of control Is it normal, when a 250k rat fires torpedos with THAT damage? Need I wrote petition about this? Mission - "Revenge is Sweet", rat's name - "Kyokan".
Daolin	Posted - 2005.03.26 14:49:00 - [2] Condolences for your loss, but in case of that specific NPC the damage is normal and intended - it is even mentioned in the NPC's description.
Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2005.03.26 14:53:00 - [3] Sorry to hear about your loss. I'm certain a few of us would like to know what your ship setup was at the time? Care to elaborate? Jacques {The Forum Rules} \| {Email Us!}
Kuggington	Posted - 2005.03.26 15:00:00 - [4] Yes it is normal for that particular NPC. If you check his description you'll see that he actually fires doom torpedoes, but for some reason they still show up as infernos when they hit. Next time just put on a bunch of thermal hardeners. I think with 3 I got the damage down to around 400.
Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.26 15:01:00 - [5] Originally by: Jacques Archambault Sorry to hear about your loss. I'm certain a few of us would like to know what your ship setup was at the time? Care to explain? Jacques Of course. High: 6x1400 howitzers, 2xSiege with cruises. Med: LiF fueled AB, Optical Tracking, F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, 2xCap rechs. Low: Large Arm Rep, 4xReactor Controls, Counterbalanced Weapon Gyro.
Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.26 15:06:00 - [6] Originally by: Daolin Condolences for your loss, but in case of that specific NPC the damage is normal and intended - it is even mentioned in the NPC's description. Do you mean - ingame NPC's description, or somewhere else?
Kuggington	Posted - 2005.03.26 15:07:00 - [7] Ingame description.
Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.26 15:09:00 - [8] Originally by: Kuggington Ingame description. Thanks. Then that rat must be a 2.5kk, not 250k :)
Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2005.03.26 15:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Zybex Originally by: Jacques Archambault Sorry to hear about your loss. I'm certain a few of us would like to know what your ship setup was at the time? Care to explain? Jacques Of course. High: 6x1400 howitzers, 2xSiege with cruises. Med: LiF fueled AB, Optical Tracking, F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, 2xCap rechs. Low: Large Arm Rep, 4xReactor Controls, Counterbalanced Weapon Gyro. Doesn't look like you have any armor hardeners fitted. That could well be the reason you were destroyed by only 3 of those torpedoes. No way the large armor rep could tank that kind of damage on its own. You'll probably have to change your setup for that encounter next time to something more defensive. {The Forum Rules} \| {Email Us!}
Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.26 15:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Jacques Archambault Originally by: Zybex Originally by: Jacques Archambault Sorry to hear about your loss. I'm certain a few of us would like to know what your ship setup was at the time? Care to explain? Jacques Of course. High: 6x1400 howitzers, 2xSiege with cruises. Med: LiF fueled AB, Optical Tracking, F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, 2xCap rechs. Low: Large Arm Rep, 4xReactor Controls, Counterbalanced Weapon Gyro. Doesn't look like you have any armor hardeners fitted. That could well be the reason you were destroyed by only 3 of those torpedoes. No way the large armor rep could tank that kind of damage on its own. You'll probably have to change your setup for that encounter next time to something more defensive. Yes, becouse it's not tank setup, even, Tempest can be only damager or tank. I think, it is not correct anyway, that NPC shoot 3 toprs and the same time, with such damage. Can I use that topredos? No. Why? I can easily stand against 750k battleship, but 250k battleship (?) destroys me in SECONDS. No offence. I just can't understand that.

Yeux Gris	Posted - 2005.03.26 16:12:00 - [11] LMAO it dont take a brain surgin to know what mission he got :P Vengence :D Why do u think I stay at range? that bs is NASTY! Who let the cows out?! mOo. mOo. mOo.. mOo mOo...! WTB 8x 280mm Scout Howies. Will pay 20% more than Naga's current price
jollygoodsmoke	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:11:00 - [12] nah it not vengeance that oki..... the mission with the named rat fires doom at 1500+ each,,, gotta be prepared with that stuff hitting ya n would be nice to have some m8s with ya
jollygoodsmoke	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:13:00 - [13] lol sorry u said what mission it is ...kyoken kicks ass unfortunatly
Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:29:00 - [14] Originally by: jollygoodsmoke nah it not vengeance that oki..... the mission with the named rat fires doom at 1500+ each,,, gotta be prepared with that stuff hitting ya n would be nice to have some m8s with ya I was with my friend. And if we would know... Then all firepower of 2 Tempests was be concentrated at that badass. Hey, maybe you know some more "surprises" like that?
Lord Anubis	Posted - 2005.03.26 17:45:00 - [15] killed by super torp guy revenge is sweet lol You cant beat Death But you can make the bastard work hard for it wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia
VossKarr	Posted - 2005.03.26 18:17:00 - [16]
dabster	Posted - 2005.03.26 18:21:00 - [17] Originally by: Zybex [ 2005.03.26 13:57:05 ] (combat) Inferno Torpedo I belonging to Unknown hits you, doing 1727.1 damage. Holy crappage, new one to me ___________________________ Chicks dig Brutor's
KompleX	Posted - 2005.03.26 18:55:00 - [18] Retarded. That guy needs a nerf.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.26 19:40:00 - [19] He doesnt need a Nerf, people need decent ship setups --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.03.26 19:55:00 - [20] I've done a lot of missions but I've never seen this guy, what mission does this occur in? ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE

Alasse Cuthalion	Posted - 2005.03.26 20:12:00 - [21] Revenge is Sweet. You get a random named BS, usually either a Mega (Ioan LaFonte or something?), a 'geddon (forgot the name) or this beasty, Kyokan. He certainly gave my Raven the ****s that's for sure but he died pretty quickly.
Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.26 20:50:00 - [22] OK. As I see, some ppl laughing. Wanna some more? First month of my game, I was doing missions in 0.1 Funny? No? Ok, from agent I sometimes receiving some coloured heads, with strange names, like - Memory Basic implant, and so on. What I do with them? Refine. There you can laugh. What I want to say: I was meet that BS first time. And that first time I didn't expect that firepower, especially, when I was scrambled by 3 Wingmans. And I have no time to read description of that BS. Next time, will be different.
Shadar Ishaan	Posted - 2005.03.26 21:46:00 - [23] Sorry to hear that. Next time, fit 2 thermal hardeners and you should fare a lot better. Be sure to join chat channel 'lvl4' and ask about missions you haven't done before, we're all pretty helpful and will tell you what to expect. --------------- Item Trading Post
Suvereign	Posted - 2005.03.26 21:50:00 - [24] 2000dgt the torpedo. 450dgt the inferno torp (we see inferno torp in the log not the doom), 562.5dgt with skill@5. We got a ballistic with 255% of MissileDamageBonus. WOOT I want the same!
Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.26 22:15:00 - [25] Originally by: Shadar Ishaan Sorry to hear that. Next time, fit 2 thermal hardeners and you should fare a lot better. Be sure to join chat channel 'lvl4' and ask about missions you haven't done before, we're all pretty helpful and will tell you what to expect. Thank you, Shadar.
Lord Anubis	Posted - 2005.03.26 22:37:00 - [26] The guys easy to kill if u had a half decent tank u would have surived like i did when i first found him in my tempest. Sorry for your loss and all but its ur own fault there are plenty of mean to gather information out there. I suggest you and others pop by Lvl4 channel and ask in there for some help You cant beat Death But you can make the bastard work hard for it wtb Jerek Zuomi's Insignia
Ruffio Sepico	Posted - 2005.03.27 01:55:00 - [27] Originally by: Zybex Is it normal, when a 250k rat fires torpedos with THAT damage? Need I wrote petition about this? Mission - "Revenge is Sweet", rat's name - "Kyokan". Shouldn't someone say level 4 missions are risk free now? Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
McBane	Posted - 2005.03.27 02:53:00 - [28] forget hardners, fit a assault launcher with defenders - those torps of doom will never reach you then (providing you keep a bit of distance of course!)
Zybex	Posted - 2005.03.27 04:02:00 - [29] Originally by: McBane forget hardners, fit a assault launcher with defenders - those torps of doom will never reach you then (providing you keep a bit of distance of course!) See, the problem is - I need at least two cruises. Becouse wingmans and other fast frigates I can't kill on short distances with my 1400 howitzers.
Meathook	Posted - 2005.03.27 06:14:00 - [30] kyokan does punch some naughty power indeed, but if you manage to move fast, you don't even have to worry about tanking. I have had revenge is sweet mission with kyokan a couple of times. If you hurry and kill him quick enough, it is likely that not even one of his torps hits you at all, especially if you got a defender launcher too. Of course, this means that all firepower should be aimed toward him. 250k BS have a nasty habit of using mwd, which usually means the faster you kill them the better. And despite that awesome firepower, kyokan is kinda soft when it comes to sustain damage. At the time i write this i have been using tempest for mission running, and i use speed a lot, so i guess that less maneuverable or speedy BS like raven will probably have to tank some hits a bit, cos it's unlikely they can outran long enough the rats ________________________________________ "Parental advisory: Explicit typos"



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