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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5542
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Posted - 2012.11.18 01:44:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:words
so why do wormholes have approximately 1/4 the population of nullsec but 1/20th the PvP losses? ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
873
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Posted - 2012.11.18 02:17:00 -
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Andski wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:words so why do wormholes have approximately 1/4 the population of nullsec but 1/20th the PvP losses?
Clearly it's because scan is so easy to use and fights so easy to find, duh nerd. |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1279
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Posted - 2012.11.18 02:25:00 -
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Andski wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:words so why do wormholes have approximately 1/4 the population of nullsec but 1/20th the PvP losses? The more useful metrics I gave 26 pages ago was that for every 7 kills in a given system in nullsec, there was 1 for any given system in w-space, and that for every 2 kills for a given player in nullsec, a given player in w-space has1. |
Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
400
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Posted - 2012.11.18 02:46:00 -
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Bah more pages of
THE WORLDS ENDING IN 2012!!!!!!!
O my bad its just fact less rumor mongering that if null doesn't have a 100% accurate local chat it will die.
Here's a full run down of this thread.
I said remove local u said with out local you can't find any one.
I get that point and give a counter idea reducing locals Effectiveness by 50% aka no more knowing if that guys hostile the moment he enters system. I even gave u an idea for tracking large fleets.
U still cry for 40 more pages saying how it will kill null. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5546
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Posted - 2012.11.18 02:54:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:Bah more pages of
THE WORLDS ENDING IN 2012!!!!!!!
O my bad its just fact less rumor mongering that if null doesn't have a 100% accurate local chat it will die.
Here's a full run down of this thread.
I said remove local u said with out local you can't find any one.
I get that point and give a counter idea reducing locals Effectiveness by 50% aka no more knowing if that guys hostile the moment he enters system. I even gave u an idea for tracking large fleets.
U still cry for 40 more pages saying how it will kill null.
what? ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Lord Zim
1999
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Posted - 2012.11.18 02:55:00 -
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It's not "the world's ending", it's us telling you exactly what'll happen. It won't be a dramatic change, since null is already pretty depopulated as it is, but the fact of the matter is, WH style local will depopulate null even further, and it will have a detrimental effect on anything other than space jousting over stationary objects with timers. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1769
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:05:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:It's not "the world's ending", it's us telling you exactly what'll happen. It won't be a dramatic change, since null is already pretty depopulated as it is, but the fact of the matter is, WH style local will depopulate null even further, and it will have a detrimental effect on anything other than space jousting over stationary objects with timers. I love stationary objects with timers <3 Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
873
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:08:00 -
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I have no clue sir, it appears to be trying to communicate. |
Lord Zim
1999
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:13:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:I have no clue sir, it appears to be trying to communicate. Is it called V'Ger? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1885
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:21:00 -
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I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.
Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec.
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
873
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:25:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.
Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec.
We have plenty of reasons to fight and options to do so already. What we would like is for the individual pilot to be able to fund his fighting and his fun from the space he owns without it becoming even more of a barren wasteland than it already is.
I took part in a six way brawl today where all of the sides were shooting at eachother. What have you done? |
Lord Zim
1999
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:26:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.
Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec. Now I don't know about you, but I would've thought getting more people into nullsec would've been preferable to driving more out. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1769
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:27:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.
Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec. Yeah more pvp when we go roaming and there's no one because everyone is in highsec.
Well, at least IRC will fight us, then again they might just roll up and do their mining in highsec. That would be a disaster, no more CSAA ops with all their pets coming to fight. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1279
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:28:00 -
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Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.
Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec.
Why are there so many idiots who don't even bother reading any of the actual opposition and recognizing they have very good reasons for opposing this idea?
Why, even they do read the opposition, do they completely ignore or disregard our arguments? |
Lord Zim
1999
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:29:00 -
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heh IRC having pets Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1769
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:30:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Why are there so many idiots who don't even bother reading any of the actual opposition and recognizing they have very good reasons for opposing this idea?
Why, even they do read the opposition, do they completely ignore or disregard our arguments? Because this is General Trolling, a forum of Troll Online: Inferno Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Mirima Thurander
The 8th Tribe Seraphim Dragoons.
401
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:37:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.
Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec. Now I don't know about you, but I would've thought getting more people into nullsec would've been preferable to driving more out. No
The only thing we lose is the null bears that will abandon null the first time they they lose a ship.
Hell Im still using my first drake(free goon supplied at that) I had for ratting in null that I got over 2 years ago and have moved between 2 alliances and 6 corps and its been in null the hole time.
So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet.
A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Lord Zim
1999
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:45:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I see the establishment is still defending their free intel tool.
Sad too. Once upon a time people outside of highsec wanted features that would bring more PVP. Now they want easy mode like high sec. Now I don't know about you, but I would've thought getting more people into nullsec would've been preferable to driving more out. No The only thing we lose is the null bears that will abandon null the first time they they lose a ship. No, they've already left, if they ever came out here in the first place.
Mirima Thurander wrote:Hell Im still using my first drake(free goon supplied at that) I had for ratting in null that I got over 2 years ago and have moved between 2 alliances and 6 corps and its been in null the hole time.
So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet. I find it fascinating how little this has to do with the actual topic at hand. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1769
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Posted - 2012.11.18 03:48:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Mirima Thurander wrote:Hell Im still using my first drake(free goon supplied at that) I had for ratting in null that I got over 2 years ago and have moved between 2 alliances and 6 corps and its been in null the hole time.
So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet. I find it fascinating how little this has to do with the actual topic at hand. I'm sorry that you haven't, in 2 years, been able to experience the joy that is tengu ratting before heavy missiles are nerfed.
Oh well. Just get the next ratting flavor of the expansion. It isn't carriers, by the way. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1279
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Posted - 2012.11.18 04:15:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Mirima Thurander wrote:Hell Im still using my first drake(free goon supplied at that) I had for ratting in null that I got over 2 years ago and have moved between 2 alliances and 6 corps and its been in null the hole time.
So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet. I find it fascinating how little this has to do with the actual topic at hand. I'm sorry that you haven't, in 2 years, been able to experience the joy that is tengu ratting before heavy missiles are nerfed. Oh well. Just get the next ratting flavor of the expansion. It isn't carriers, by the way. It's more Tengu ratting, just not with heavy missiles. |
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Soma Khan
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.11.18 04:25:00 -
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oh my what a long thread and still all the same arguments and still ccp sitting on their thumbs after years of promises to make local delayed
wasn't all a waste though. if there's one thing that these threads have shown it's that pretty much everyone arguing against delayed local is a fusking botter. ain't no doubt about it |
Lord Zim
1999
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Posted - 2012.11.18 04:30:00 -
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Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.
It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1279
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Posted - 2012.11.18 04:36:00 -
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Don't forget the "CCP promised this" fallacy. |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2012.11.18 04:45:00 -
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Mirima Thurander wrote:
So u tell me all I have done is watched local and posed up every time a none blue enters system how will I ever die out side of joining a fleet.
If you are so keen on fighting people, you could just not safe up. Why are you acting like something you hate? Why don't you just move into a wormhole are live the dream? |
Soma Khan
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.11.18 04:52:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.
It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy. the difference is that a human is playing, where a botter is working. human sees better and more challenging gameplay, where a botter sees lost income and more work. no surprise you are so concerned |
Lord Zim
1999
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Posted - 2012.11.18 04:54:00 -
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Soma Khan wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.
It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy. the difference is that a human is playing, where a botter is working. human sees better and more challenging gameplay, where a botter sees lost income and more work. no surprise you are so concerned If you actually think I'm a botter, then by all means report me as one. I'm sure CCP would find that very amusing. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Soma Khan
State War Academy Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2012.11.18 05:00:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Don't forget the "CCP promised this" fallacy.
hows about back in 2008 ccp zulu talking about doing everything he can to have this on sisi in 2009
rest of your posts are of similar quality as this one. garbage
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5546
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Posted - 2012.11.18 05:01:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.
It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy.
it's come up dozens of times in this thread alone because, you know, only bots use local ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5546
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Posted - 2012.11.18 05:02:00 -
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so, where's CCP Zulu now? ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
153
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Posted - 2012.11.18 05:05:00 -
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Soma Khan wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Ah, the botter fallacy, haven't seen that for a while.
It's almost as if people are actually pretending to believe that bots would be more vulnerable than humans if local were removed. But surely this is just trolling, surely people can't actually believe that fallacy. the difference is that a human is playing, where a botter is working. human sees better and more challenging gameplay, where a botter sees lost income and more work. no surprise you are so concerned
You are getting desperate now tearbear. Oh yah, no one should care about making money or the bottom line in a game renowned for its elaborate markets and deep player driven economy.
Do you even play Eve? |
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