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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:08:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Gibbo5771 wrote:
For the record, ISD sucks.
For the record, that's not very nice of you
I was actually just going to post saying: OMG WHT IS THIS PLACE? NORTH KOREA? WE LIVE IN AMERICA PAL WHERE I CAN SAY WHAT I WANT.
Then I saw someone from the ISD make a really nice and polite reply then get told they sucked and they looked sad. Now I'm just going to post a virtual fist bump for all the hard work the ISD do and assure them that no-one can protect the world from people madder then a bag of cats or thicker then a plank but yet they try their best and I respect that.
PS Death to mods, beat the system, stick it to the man etc. |
Gibbo5771
RAM Legion DOT Reloaded DOT
22
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:13:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Gibbo5771 wrote:
For the record, ISD sucks.
For the record, that's not very nice of you
Blame your other ISD members that go around locking threads for no reason. |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:13:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Gibbo5771 wrote:
For the record, ISD sucks.
For the record, that's not very nice of you
Here, have a hug and a cookie ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:24:00 -
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Gibbo5771 wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:Gibbo5771 wrote:
For the record, ISD sucks.
For the record, that's not very nice of you Blame your other ISD members that go around locking threads for no reason. You are a bit... slow... aren't you....
It's like a bunch of middle school children rebelling against their teachers because their lunch time got changed.
As to the other youngster:
Quote:Deleting posts , mute our speaking power, where are we heading ?
A generally more enjoyable and useful forum. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Beat General
Painkiller.
65
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:29:00 -
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These forums are reaching communist china levels of censorship.
Hurry! Read my post before it gets remov- |
Azami Nevinyrall
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
467
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:32:00 -
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I'd give my .02 ISK on this topic, but I have a feeling I'd be banned from the forms in a more permanent basis...
Apperently I'm on twitter now... @AzamiNevinyrall |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
165
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:39:00 -
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ISD Suvetar wrote:Watch this space, I'm writing a reply.
lol priceless |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2626
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Posted - 2012.10.23 13:59:00 -
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Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'd give my .02 ISK on this topic, but I have a feeling I'd be banned from the forms in a more permanent basis...
If your post would actually be so poor as to receive a ban, then yes you are probably wise to reconsider posting it.
Common courtesy, factual content, good humor, constructive... are these concepts so far above your heads that you really don't understand how to post in this fashion?
Contrary to popular belief you do not have a god given right to troll a privately hosted forum in any manner you wish.
Think of it as being along the lines of your parents not allowing you to punch holes in the walls of their home to impress your high school girlfriend. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Beat General
Painkiller.
65
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:01:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'd give my .02 ISK on this topic, but I have a feeling I'd be banned from the forms in a more permanent basis...
If your post would actually be so poor as to receive a ban, then yes you are probably wise to reconsider posting it. Common courtesy, factual content, good humor, constructive... are these concepts so far above your heads that you really don't understand how to post in this fashion? Contrary to popular belief you do not have a god given right to troll a privately hosted forum in any manner you wish. Think of it as being along the lines of your parents not allowing you to punch holes in the walls of their home to impress your high school girlfriend.
what are you even saying. |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:07:00 -
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Beat General wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:Azami Nevinyrall wrote:I'd give my .02 ISK on this topic, but I have a feeling I'd be banned from the forms in a more permanent basis...
If your post would actually be so poor as to receive a ban, then yes you are probably wise to reconsider posting it. Common courtesy, factual content, good humor, constructive... are these concepts so far above your heads that you really don't understand how to post in this fashion? Contrary to popular belief you do not have a god given right to troll a privately hosted forum in any manner you wish. Think of it as being along the lines of your parents not allowing you to punch holes in the walls of their home to impress your high school girlfriend. what are you even saying. He's saying that, Someone is your master and you must obey.. Now obey me and give me all your iskies..
GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |
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Roc Wieler
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
189
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:13:00 -
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Unfortunately, most people don't understand that the "right" to free speech should not be interpreted as the "right to be an arse." From what I've read in this discussion, the ISD were protecting you from yourself. I'd quietly thank them at this point and walk away.
Of course, as someone who has never had to fight for their freedom, or the freedom of others, you won't, as you feel entitled to your opinion, even if it is stupid. Never start a fight you can win.
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
331
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:14:00 -
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How is this dude not banned yet |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:23:00 -
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ISD's cleaning the forums of trolls, its about time, don't like it? Blizzard forums are that way--> |
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1919
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:36:00 -
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In a thread about censorship, there needs to be mentioned that ...
***** gets censored, but VAGINA doesnt! Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2012.10.23 14:38:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote: ***** gets censored, but VAGINA doesnt!
We truly live in a feminist centric society.
That or the Devs assumed most EVE players don't know what one of those is.
Hiooooooooo "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Kult Altol
Republican Industries Epsilon Fleet
157
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:19:00 -
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some men just want to watch the world burn - Ironman A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
187
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:22:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:So ISD type 40 im going to ask you to calrify why you locked this thread (quite ironic) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=165745Im now completely unsure about what you can and cant do on this forum, why the rules are so strict these days and who gives the power to people to make those choices. Im not being rude or an arse and im not joking here either but it seems like allot of discussions about ISD and ISD power are locked by ISD`s which all screams for very harsh comparisons to be made (which i wont make as it will likely result in the thread being locked.) The thread you locked was actually moving towards discussing these issues but is that not allowed? Just Curious
ISD's, GMs, and CCP folks don't need to justify a SINGLE THING to any poster here. This Forum belongs to CCP, is the property of CCP, and there is no kind of freedom of speech here. You want a forum where nobody is ever censored for any reason whatsoever? Start one yourself, and see how long before you start moderating the complete horse-$hit that people post.
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Alice Saki
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Posted - 2012.10.23 15:29:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:
ISD's, GMs, and CCP folks don't need to justify a SINGLE THING to any poster here. This Forum belongs to CCP, is the property of CCP, and there is no kind of freedom of speech here. You want a forum where nobody is ever censored for any reason whatsoever? Start one yourself, and see how long before you start moderating the complete horse-$hit that people post.
Nuff Said Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
158
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:12:00 -
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I know, I know what the problem is!
It is because blue label CCP DEV is missing, pesky GM is not as cool either at certain times!
But what an outrage, a White Label ISD moderates a witty troll attempt, a title that is not appealing to be trolled at!
Everybody can be happy if a true CCP DEV pays attention and locks a thread, now it is so cool and everyone can see it!
But you ISD come in and ruin all the fun, before a real CCP guy can spawn and excite us all..
troll - 2012 A.D. " inner world .. |
Harraria
Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry
25
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:15:00 -
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pussnheels wrote:if you call these forum rules strict , than never post on the forums of the other MMOs , you would get yourself banned after your first post
on some you can't even type certain words and i don't mean the usual 4 letterwords ,or even critize their game i think it hurts their kiddie fans when you call them fanboys or xboxkiddies
You're right but what other games are doing shouldn't serve as a justification for cases of over-moderation here. |
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Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
448
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:18:00 -
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OP try Posting your discussion about ISD in Out of Pod as it has nothing to do with EVE.
THis forum is General Discussion about EVE.
Maybe ISD will be kind and just move this over so you won't get another thread locked
OH and I believe discussing moderation isn't aloud either so you might want to steer clear of that as well (correct me if I am wrong). EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Opertone
Aurora Empire Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels
158
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:25:00 -
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I am saying ISD title is meaningless,
If you want ****posters to be happy, ISD needs to be promoted to CCP DEV team.
People are like wtf, why some kind of ISD messes with me? They sure are no eligible.
Blue label is all |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2627
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:27:00 -
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Harraria wrote:pussnheels wrote:if you call these forum rules strict , than never post on the forums of the other MMOs , you would get yourself banned after your first post
on some you can't even type certain words and i don't mean the usual 4 letterwords ,or even critize their game i think it hurts their kiddie fans when you call them fanboys or xboxkiddies You're right but what other games are doing shouldn't serve as a justification for cases of over-moderation here. It doesn't mean they are wrong either. That being said, this forum is FAR more poster friendly than most.
Try going to the WOT forums and complaining that the Russian Dev team is playing favorites by making Russian tanks overpowered.
If you really want a fast ticket out, criticize them for locking a thread. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
53
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:28:00 -
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Zheketri wrote:ISD Suvetar wrote:Zheketri wrote:I find it interesting that Suvetar is explaining the lock on Bad Messenger's thread when the OP was concerned witha completely different thread. Just going back to the source of it all; there's a lot of misunderstanding happening. And I did discuss her locked thread at the top of my post. Looking back I might agree, since her previously (previously, previous?) locked thread doesn't directly reference Bad Messenger's thread, though the timestamps seem be close enough.
Whenever in doubt, Schoolhouse Rock is here for you Lolly, Lolly, Lolly, get your adverbs here The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll |
Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:31:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:AndromacheDarkstar wrote:So ISD type 40 im going to ask you to calrify why you locked this thread (quite ironic) https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=165745Im now completely unsure about what you can and cant do on this forum, why the rules are so strict these days and who gives the power to people to make those choices. Im not being rude or an arse and im not joking here either but it seems like allot of discussions about ISD and ISD power are locked by ISD`s which all screams for very harsh comparisons to be made (which i wont make as it will likely result in the thread being locked.) The thread you locked was actually moving towards discussing these issues but is that not allowed? Just Curious ISD's, GMs, and CCP folks don't need to justify a SINGLE THING to any poster here. This Forum belongs to CCP, is the property of CCP, and there is no kind of freedom of speech here. You want a forum where nobody is ever censored for any reason whatsoever? Start one yourself, and see how long before you start moderating the complete that people post. [EDIT: Removed inappropriate language -CCP Dolan]
Oh so very much this ^^
And......posting in a thread that should have been locked a while ago |
AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
125
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:40:00 -
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Thanks everyone for the replies. A few people mentioned the thread should be in a different place on the forums and have a good point. I appreciate the nice reply from an ISD but i do think it missed the point of this thread.
I wasnt refering to the thread posted by someone else but more the thread i posted earlier on which was closed down super quick for reasons i couldnt really get a hold on.
For those of you who asked why i posted this in a forum in the first place and what the justification of this is i think you may need to put some more thought into the purpose of a Forum, in my eyes its a place to exchange view points and ideas. I find that very hard to do when some of those ideas are censored out which was the issue i was raising.
The ISD reply cleared a bit up which is great and its nice to see the thread not locked, im also well aware i have no rights for anything i say to be on this forum. I do however play the game a fair amount and i love the community that surrounds it, my fear is an extending censorship that could in future cause problems.
This is after all marketed as an adult game with a sandbox mentality with allot of freedom to do things that would be considered immoral in the real world, i assumed the forums would reflect that and for a time they did. Fiscal Fisting, Amarr Militia Corp Recruiting Now - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2019004#post2019004 -á
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
394
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:41:00 -
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Roc Wieler wrote:Unfortunately, most people don't understand that the "right" to free speech should not be interpreted as the "right to be an arse." From what I've read in this discussion, the ISD were protecting you from yourself. I'd quietly thank them at this point and walk away.
Other people don't understand that you simply don't have a right to free speech on some gaming company's private forums. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |
AndromacheDarkstar
Fiscal Fisting Inc. Imperial Protectorate
125
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:48:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Roc Wieler wrote:Unfortunately, most people don't understand that the "right" to free speech should not be interpreted as the "right to be an arse." From what I've read in this discussion, the ISD were protecting you from yourself. I'd quietly thank them at this point and walk away.
Other people don't understand that you simply don't have a right to free speech on some gaming company's private forums.
Im not sure if this is directed at me or not, i never made a claim ot have a right to free speech. I also never said anything i would consider being an arse, i think i asked the question pretty politely actually. I dont expect anything with regards to free speech but it would be nice if we as paying customers were granted that to a point.
Im not expecting to able to post up pron and insult the developers, but i think discussing forum moderation on a forum is perfectly reasonable. Fiscal Fisting, Amarr Militia Corp Recruiting Now - https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2019004#post2019004 -á
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luZk
x13
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:49:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:Knock knock.
Who's there?
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.10.23 16:54:00 -
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AndromacheDarkstar wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:Roc Wieler wrote:Unfortunately, most people don't understand that the "right" to free speech should not be interpreted as the "right to be an arse." From what I've read in this discussion, the ISD were protecting you from yourself. I'd quietly thank them at this point and walk away.
Other people don't understand that you simply don't have a right to free speech on some gaming company's private forums. Im not sure if this is directed at me or not, i never made a claim ot have a right to free speech. I also never said anything i would consider being an arse, i think i asked the question pretty politely actually. I dont expect anything with regards to free speech but it would be nice if we as paying customers were granted that to a point. Im not expecting to able to post up pron and insult the developers, but i think discussing forum moderation on a forum is perfectly reasonable. No, it's really not.
The only result is long protracted debates that will ultimately achieve nothing except to give the forum trolls a golden opportunity to try and whip the easily confused into a frenzy.
The forum rules here are not overly strict, and pretty easy to figure out. If you have questions, there are avenues open to you to have your questions answered. Debating them in another thread is not one of them, for the reasons mentioned above.
At their discretion they can cut a poster some slack now and again, as they are doing in this thread. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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