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Bukowski
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Posted - 2005.03.30 08:41:00 -
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Compared to the other 0.0 regions, the fountian region clearly has an advantage to every other region in the game:
-the only region with npc stations AND multiple high ends (ark, bist, crokite and dark ochre) -only place where local hull expanders drop (at 50mil a piece, these are very valuable) -several systems with extremely low "true security status" (three at -.9+, and TWO at -1.0) -more common battleship spawns then i have seen anywhere else in the eve universe
After spending months in fountian, and then having left and spent time in several other 0.0 regions, it has become clear to me that fountian, for some reason, has a very noticable and extreme advantage to every other 0.0 region in the game.
Why is that? Why is one region so superior to all of the others? |
ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.30 08:42:00 -
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some areas have superior trading , some have better deadspace, some have better agent missions - its to get people exploring and moving aroudn the entire game map.
Just wait for jove space - more missions are also coming and deadspace complexes as well as a lot of other stuff in the next patch.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.30 08:45:00 -
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In fountain space is there any decent profitable holoreel trading prospects / runs ? might make a trip out there for our holoreel 24 hour trading blitz.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.03.30 08:48:00 -
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Yes, Fountain has a lot of open buy orders, especially in Serpentis Prime, one jump from YZ-LQL.
You should go there and make a lot of profit.
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Thanit
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Posted - 2005.03.30 08:48:00 -
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Edited by: Thanit on 30/03/2005 08:48:59 Disregard Ollobrains
Yes fountain has some really really nice things. An npc sovereignty region with two -1.0 systems in it is quite rare.
But check out Venal for example. It has some extremely low end systems as well, and rare ore as well. Just not within two jumps from the stations on average.
In general there's two wypes of NPC sovergeignty regions: A: Less stations, but severl very low sec (high ore) systems in it. B: ****loads of npc stations but very few to none high end ore systems around.
A: Curse and Stain B: Fountain and Venal
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qrac
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Posted - 2005.03.30 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: Bukowski Compared to the other 0.0 regions, the fountian region clearly has an advantage to every other region in the game:
-the only region with npc stations AND multiple high ends (ark, bist, crokite and dark ochre)
i stopped reading after that one.. u haven't been to many places. -------------------------------------------
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Joe
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Posted - 2005.03.30 08:52:00 -
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Originally by: Bukowski -only place where local hull expanders drop (at 50mil a piece, these are very valuable)
local hulls drop from Serpintis rats. not just in fountain.
Also ive seen local exp drop from Gurristas in mission. (but this had to be a bugged loot table thing, cos the guy got 2x locals from frigs in the same spawn
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.30 08:57:00 -
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heck ive gotten some weird loot myself even from the basic blood followers - 280mm howitzers being one of them occasionally that said foundation zone sounds interesting - watch all the pirates head there now
Again any decent holoreel trading runs out that way ?
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Sangxianc
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Posted - 2005.03.30 09:45:00 -
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How can you tell a system is -1.0 or -0.9?
- Any man's death diminishes me, as I am involved in mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee. |
Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.03.30 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Sangxianc How can you tell a system is -1.0 or -0.9?
I was kinda wondering that myself... maybe it's in one of the databases, or maybe it's possible to see by looking at the types of spawns or ore in the belts?
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Atandros
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Posted - 2005.03.30 10:08:00 -
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Local hull expanders drop from Serpentis (and Blood, if memory serves) lvl4 mission rats, too.
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Fendor Atar
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Posted - 2005.03.30 10:29:00 -
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only NPC stations in fountain? now.. u cant have traveled much...
Outer Ring has them.. curse has them...
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Andrue
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Posted - 2005.03.30 10:39:00 -
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Edited by: Andrue on 30/03/2005 10:40:28
Originally by: Bukowski
-only place where local hull expanders drop (at 50mil a piece, these are very valuable)
Really? Of course things change over time but I picked up an LHC expander as loot during one of my early L3 agent missions back in June/July 2004. That would have been somewhere in or around Lower Debyl (Devoid region).
One difference was that at the time I sold it for 27mil not 50mil -- (Battle hardened miner)
[Brackley, UK]
WARNING:This post may contain large doses of reality. |
theRaptor
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Posted - 2005.03.30 10:45:00 -
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Venal has very nice NPC spawns that drop named siege and XL shield boosters. I would rather get an Arbalest siege launcher then a poxy cargo expander --------------------------------------------------
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.03.30 11:15:00 -
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Edited by: The Enslaver on 30/03/2005 11:15:15
Originally by: qrac
Originally by: Bukowski Compared to the other 0.0 regions, the fountian region clearly has an advantage to every other region in the game:
-the only region with npc stations AND multiple high ends (ark, bist, crokite and dark ochre)
i stopped reading after that one.. u haven't been to many places.
Actually he is right. Only one of note anyway... Syndicate only has crokite. And GW with Ark/Bist... Pretty much it. --------
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Kalast Raven
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Posted - 2005.03.30 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Thanit Edited by: Thanit on 30/03/2005 08:48:59 Disregard Ollobrains
Yes fountain has some really really nice things. An npc sovereignty region with two -1.0 systems in it is quite rare.
But check out Venal for example. It has some extremely low end systems as well, and rare ore as well. Just not within two jumps from the stations on average.
In general there's two wypes of NPC sovergeignty regions: A: Less stations, but severl very low sec (high ore) systems in it. B: ****loads of npc stations but very few to none high end ore systems around.
A: Curse and Stain B: Fountain and Venal
Venal doesn't have ****loads of npc stations. Stain doesn't have good ore.
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K. Raven
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.03.30 11:26:00 -
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Originally by: Kalast Raven
Originally by: Thanit Edited by: Thanit on 30/03/2005 08:48:59 Disregard Ollobrains
Yes fountain has some really really nice things. An npc sovereignty region with two -1.0 systems in it is quite rare.
But check out Venal for example. It has some extremely low end systems as well, and rare ore as well. Just not within two jumps from the stations on average.
In general there's two wypes of NPC sovergeignty regions: A: Less stations, but severl very low sec (high ore) systems in it. B: ****loads of npc stations but very few to none high end ore systems around.
A: Curse and Stain B: Fountain and Venal
Venal doesn't have ****loads of npc stations. Stain doesn't have good ore.
stain have ark
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Fuse
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Posted - 2005.03.30 11:26:00 -
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I have lived in a few regions. Fountain has it quite good actually. It is more practical to mine/npc farm and so on. Very few regions match the profitability of Fountain. Fountain is also run by the most experienced player base in the game so whining on the forums will not change things. The developers do seem to favor Fountain greatly as well. 0.o It's not you... no wait it is you. |
Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.03.30 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Fuse Fountain is also run by the most experienced player base in the game .
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"Bad Boys,Bad Boys, what you gonna do, what you gonna do when WE come for yoU"
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Xthril Ranger
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Posted - 2005.03.30 11:28:00 -
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I would rather loot Siege launchers than cargo expanders though :-/
2 -1 systems is nice though , but it is not like there isn't other good places to live in the galaxy.
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Thanit
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Posted - 2005.03.30 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Kalast Raven
Originally by: Thanit Edited by: Thanit on 30/03/2005 08:48:59 Disregard Ollobrains
Yes fountain has some really really nice things. An npc sovereignty region with two -1.0 systems in it is quite rare.
But check out Venal for example. It has some extremely low end systems as well, and rare ore as well. Just not within two jumps from the stations on average.
In general there's two types of NPC sovergeignty regions: A: Less stations, but severl very low sec (high ore) systems in it. B: ****loads of npc stations but very few to none high end ore systems around.
A: Curse and Stain B: Fountain and Venal
Venal doesn't have ****loads of npc stations. Stain doesn't have good ore.
Make that: A: Fountain and Venal and B"Stain and Curse Slight error on my side.
And yes this is correct, ive been in each of these regions for extended periods.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:53:00 -
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Pirate regions:
Curse - NO rare ore, NPC stations and agents all over the place, high end NPC's - but drop worst loot and are hardest to kill.
Fountain - All types of the three main rares, fewer NPC stations, agents. Loads of high end NPC's with average loot, easy to kill.
Stain - Only gneiss, but loads of it. Gneiss is currently more profitable to mine if in same system as refinery than arkonor two jumps from a refinery, if done properly. Most NPC stations and agents of any of the pirate regions. Loads of high end NPC's that drop very good loot (especially Sansha officer loot), and are also easy to kill.
Venal - No high end ores, few NPC stations in comparison to the others - their fair share of agents. Loads of decent NPC's with the best loot of all NPC's, probably easiest to kill also.
Fountain has the advantage. --------
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Face Lifter
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Posted - 2005.03.30 23:58:00 -
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I also heard FA people are the richest of all alliances, with many multi-billionaires
dunno for sure
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Mr Popov
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Posted - 2005.03.31 02:46:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Popov on 31/03/2005 02:46:46 Loads of gneiss in Stain? I've seen it in DSS (with like 4 belts) that's it.
The rest is hedbergite at best.
Sansha's are very easy to kill though
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2005.03.31 03:02:00 -
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how do you find the "true" sex status?
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal What has turned out better than expected?
Everything. Remember, we're from Iceland.
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aeti
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Posted - 2005.03.31 03:04:00 -
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stain has stations everywhere, and the best npcs, and yes there is gneiss in other systems than DSS but in most systems the best is kernite :\ curse has crap ore didn't spend too much time in venal itself but BKG is the best mining system in game I have also had a local hull drop from a gallante navy frig :|
I guess you could also say GW ie UK3 is rather nifty as well
as for other npc stations in 0.0 i've been to, the stations in geminate have gneiss/dark ochre next door and crokite/bistot about 6 jumps out? (not been there in ages tho so not too sure)
southern syndicate has lots of crokite never looked at the ore in pure blind and never been to outer ring
I think thats everywhere so fountain probably is the best for ore/npc stations
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Matrin III
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Posted - 2005.03.31 04:09:00 -
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Even *IF* fountain IS better... So?
That makes the game fun. If it was all 100% equal there would not be tons of incentive to take over the best regions. If it is true that fountain is by far superior to all other 0.0 regions then people should mobalize and go try to take it by force. If they are not that is their own problem. It is there for the taking. May the strongest and/or most cunning win.
PS: I've never even been to fountain and have no bias on this subject.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.03.31 05:29:00 -
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Well im looking at the map and the main concentrations of player are around the mryidan strip as far as foundation no one out there but im not far so might trip out there
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Percivs
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Posted - 2005.03.31 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Fuse I have lived in a few regions. Fountain has it quite good actually. It is more practical to mine/npc farm and so on. Very few regions match the profitability of Fountain. Fountain is also run by the most experienced player base in the game so whining on the forums will not change things. The developers do seem to favor Fountain greatly as well.
Readers: Please remember your Eve developer lore. On the first day, the Developed put in a random number and pressed a button, and the map was generated using an algorithm.
The developers haven't "favored" anyone with regards to the contents of individual systems, their security raiting, etc.
During the height of hostitilies with Curse Alliance (over 6 months ago) it was common for enemies of Curse to spread the rumor that Curse had vast tracts of high end ore and that Devs were secret members of Curse Alliance because the Devs liked PvP.
This is, in part, more of the same.
--- "All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field" - A.E. |
Percivs
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Posted - 2005.03.31 09:06:00 -
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Originally by: Face Lifter I also heard FA people are the richest of all alliances, with many multi-billionaires
dunno for sure
Rumor mongering 4tw. at least you admit you don't know.
May I point out that no one in Fountain Alliance is flying around a 8+ Billion isk Caldari Navy Raven... like Rawthorm of Shinra.
--- "All of us who are concerned for peace and triumph of reason and justice must be keenly aware how small an influence reason and honest good will exert upon events in the political field" - A.E. |
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