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Alexis Prey
Unknown Soldiers NEM3SIS.
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Posted - 2011.10.02 03:14:00 -
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Say you are very highly skilled, and also have a lot of ISK to waste.
Is it possible to make a Legion that is basically better than a curse in solo 1 v 1 capabilities? I love love curse, so I want to fly it forever, but if I can upgrade, than that would be nice as well. |
Sphit Ker
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.02 05:35:00 -
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Alexis Prey wrote:Say you are very highly skilled, and also have a lot of ISK to waste.
Is it possible to make a Legion that is basically better than a curse in solo 1 v 1 capabilities? I love love curse, so I want to fly it forever, but if I can upgrade, than that would be nice as well.
Assuming you want a straight up better Curse, the answer is no. Legion can be built to mimic the Pilgrim a little but not the Curse. There's no bonus to the range of Neutralizers and the drone damage bonus is nowhere near 100%. The boost to neuts amount is also lesser than either recons and there's no tracking disruption bonus anywhere.
See, Energy Parasitic Complex (Electronic) and Drone Synthesis Projector (Offensive). That's the closest to Curse you'll get.
I've heard a lot of people crying fool over the uselessness of Legion. Maybe they were right? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.10.02 08:24:00 -
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T3s aren't meant to obselete all T2 cruisers in every way. All of the T3s have weak EW compared to Recons, not just the Legion. However, they have other advantages (eg: they can have a tank that's not made of wet paper and pixie wings) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.10.02 17:10:00 -
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I've experimented with pilgrim like legions before. You can get a vastly superior tank on them but recons are all about using EW to avoid damage in the first place. Assuming you go for a cloaky legion, you'll end up with something like a pilgrim that uses guns (ideally AC's, not pulses) instead of drones. You'll do a little less dps, have loads more tank and no TD and no ECM drones to bail you out. I consider the pilgrim superior to such a legion in belt ratter/plexer/missioner ganking.
For a non-cloaky variant, you can get a decent gunboat with a single bonused neut. It will have a BS level tank, average armor cruiser mobility and average BC dps (500-600). It's not a bad ship like that but it has more in common with a harbinger than the curse in that type of configuration. If you do drop some guns for more neuting power, you'll find yourself in the same situation as the cloaky version. Less dps and less neuting power than a curse and you won't have the range or TD bonuses either.
So the short version is no, the legion is not what you're looking for. I suggest instead in investing in a better curse. If you're ready to drop a billion on a legion, I see no reason why you shouldn't consider spending it on a pimp curse instead. I've been having a blast with the dark blood neuts, RF warp disruptor and t2 egress rigs on mine. And don't forget that wonderful talisman set. |
Elindreal
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.02 18:47:00 -
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not to derail too much. but as stated t3 ewar/recon subsystems are subpar to the t2 variants. the tradeoff is that T3s will offer better dps and tank at the loss of range or effectiveness on ewar.
that said, I feel like the loki webbing and proteus point are more effective, even at their 'gimped' range. |
Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.02 19:44:00 -
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Quite simply, no.
The legion (very) debatably has some utility as a gang neuting boat but solo it is gash. |
1-Up Mushroom
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.03 01:49:00 -
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King Rothgar
Autocannons Anonymous
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Posted - 2011.10.03 12:07:00 -
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Nice fit but I stand by the curse being superior. That thing is just too easy to gank. |
Solomar Espersei
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.10.03 14:23:00 -
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As stated, you can mimic the Pilgrim and have superior EHP, etc., but the range of the Curse is what makes it uber. The HAM Legion can be a jacked up Sac and is a pretty cool option. Recruiting is ON HOLD Please join our public channel The Ninja Dojo for more info |
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