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Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.01 04:37:00 -
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In all seriousness:
What woudl happen if CCP just allowed for: 1) Way better manufacturing and low-level mining in nullsec? 2) Way better exploration everywhere? 3) Ships that wear out - you need to pay maintenance costs the bigger a ship you have and the more it's rigged up. 4) Some other artifical way to consume resources besides blowing up ships - I.E. the game itself has units that consume and destroy resources? For example, in PI, allow for the development of civilian population centers that you manage, and to which everyone can sell items like food, components and minerals to? The goods would then be consumed by the planet - disappear. Customs offices would buy and "destroy" the goods - sending them planetside. As demand goes up, prices go up. CCP would need to add some tools to track the growth and demand of the population - perhaps commensurate with the planet type and industries there? Perhaps limit PI harvesters by population? |
Groce
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2012.11.01 05:02:00 -
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Maybe if they actually started fighting eachother they would be less bored and stop the constant whinging on the forums
Just imagine
The neckbearded hipsters at SA vs. the yuppie hipsters at Reddit
It would be glorious. |
Sentamon
210
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Posted - 2012.11.01 05:03:00 -
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Lets cater to the biggest alliance. What could possibly go wrong? ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.01 05:04:00 -
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Groce wrote:Maybe if they actually started fighting eachother they would be less bored and stop the constant whining on the forums
Just imagine
The neckbearded hipsters at SA vs. the yuppie hipsters at Reddit
It would be glorious.
It would - and it's true. Too much complaining and not enough killing amongst the goons. They should all kill each other, thereby allowing them to PvP with peops of like mind. |
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
314
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Posted - 2012.11.01 05:28:00 -
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Groce wrote:Maybe if they actually started fighting eachother they would be less bored and stop the constant whinging on the forums
Just imagine
The neckbearded hipsters at SA vs. the yuppie hipsters at Reddit
It would be glorious.
This can only happen after CCP improves local chat in some way that allows Goons and TEST to simultaneously **** local up in a comprehensible and followable way. Currently, they both start shitting local up, people get confused, people say "yeah!" to **** was directed at them rather than the enemy, nobody can tell who that failwhale was for, and so on. Also, you've got all these URLs to propaganda posters to click on, it's just a real pain.
I hear there is even some PvP involved.
Maybe colored text would do? Maybe there could be multiple 'bands' of local? Maybe sov would let you force-join trespassers onto a special channel and the folkways evolve that defenders **** on that channel and attackers **** on local?
Get on it, CCP. |
Gussarde en Welle
Fruidian Logic The Volition Cult
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Posted - 2012.11.01 05:37:00 -
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Kuehnelt wrote:
Maybe colored text would do? Maybe there could be multiple 'bands' of local? Maybe sov would let you force-join trespassers onto a special channel and the folkways evolve that defenders **** on that channel and attackers **** on local?
Everything you said plus negativesec players have unlimited killrights on anyother negativesec player. Free for all, anywhere and everywhere! |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
295
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Posted - 2012.11.01 05:42:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Lets cater to the biggest alliance. What could possibly go wrong?
highsec carebear inc.? |
baltec1
Bat Country
2653
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Posted - 2012.11.01 07:19:00 -
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Alter the base EHP of the mack to the same level as the hulk. Allow 0.0 to build multiple outposts in a system, stop nerfing pvp in high sec, bring us the winter expansion.
Job done, time to work on the POS changes and ring mining. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
996
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Posted - 2012.11.01 07:29:00 -
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Sentamon wrote:Lets cater to the biggest alliance. What could possibly go wrong? Perkone www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Ritsum
Perkone Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.11.01 08:15:00 -
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Groce wrote:Maybe if they actually started fighting eachother they would be less bored and stop the constant whinging on the forums
Just imagine
The neckbearded hipsters at SA vs. the yuppie hipsters at Reddit
It would be glorious.
Would never happen, they do not have the balls for a full blown war. The best they can do is zerg some system and leave before the enemy force shows up...
To prove this they gank High Sec players who have ships fitted for Pve while claiming it to be the right thing to do because it is their playstyle and we should adapt to it.
The entitlement Null/low sec players say they deserve just because they blow player ships up sickens me. I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem? |
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baltec1
Bat Country
2653
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Posted - 2012.11.01 08:25:00 -
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Ritsum wrote:
Would never happen, they do not have the balls for a full blown war. The best they can do is zerg some system and leave before the enemy force shows up...
To prove this they gank High Sec players who have ships fitted for Pve while claiming it to be the right thing to do because it is their playstyle and we should adapt to it.
The entitlement Null/low sec players say they deserve just because they blow player ships up sickens me.
Our corp fought a war in Venal against the NC for a year longer than you have been subbed and held our ground. Venal was literally the Afghanistan of EVE, a place in which the superpowers would send their fleets in to die.
Good times. Please, feel free to come visit us in S-D. |
Lord Zim
1898
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Posted - 2012.11.01 08:26:00 -
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Ritsum wrote:Would never happen, they do not have the balls for a full blown war. The best they can do is zerg some system and leave before the enemy force shows up...
To prove this they gank High Sec players who have ships fitted for Pve while claiming it to be the right thing to do because it is their playstyle and we should adapt to it.
The entitlement Null/low sec players say they deserve just because they blow player ships up sickens me. Someone from Caldari State is telling us how we roll after we've taken over 2/3rds of the map, while he's sitting at home playing with barbie and working on talking tough. That's funny. Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Ritsum
Perkone Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2012.11.01 08:32:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ritsum wrote:
Would never happen, they do not have the balls for a full blown war. The best they can do is zerg some system and leave before the enemy force shows up...
To prove this they gank High Sec players who have ships fitted for Pve while claiming it to be the right thing to do because it is their playstyle and we should adapt to it.
The entitlement Null/low sec players say they deserve just because they blow player ships up sickens me.
Our corp fought a war in Venal against the NC for a year longer than you have been subbed and held our ground. Venal was literally the Afghanistan of EVE, a place in which the superpowers would send their fleets in to die. Good times. Please, feel free to come visit us in S-D.
Cool story brah! Too bad you lost your backbones eh? If it was such "good times" why not continue the wars instead of harassing high sec players like you do nowadays? Is it really about ISK and the 'lols' or are you really just bored with how wars are done? If it is boring now why take it out on High Sec players? If it is not boring why not fight some wars?
I just don't understand you nulls... I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem? |
baltec1
Bat Country
2654
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Posted - 2012.11.01 08:40:00 -
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Ritsum wrote:
Cool story brah! Too bad you lost your backbones eh? If it was such "good times" why not continue the wars instead of harassing high sec players like you do nowadays? Is it really about ISK and the 'lols' or are you really just bored with how wars are done? If it is boring now why take it out on High Sec players? If it is not boring why not fight some wars?
I just don't understand you nulls...
Crushing NC.Dot as you flail on the forums.
The reason why we go for you lot in high sec is because you provide so much easy isk. We feast upon the stupidity of empire dwellers and boy have we grown fat. Bad miners and terrible freighter pilots have funded an entire capital fleet for us and made all of our members disgustingly rich over the last year.
You are funding a war right now and we thank you for that.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2567
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Posted - 2012.11.01 08:43:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:
It would - and it's true. Too much complaining and not enough killing amongst the goons. They should all kill each other, thereby allowing them to PvP with peops of like mind.
Yeah, its not like we're occupied with two wars stretching across most of nullsec or anything. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Ritsum
Perkone Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.11.01 08:56:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Ritsum wrote:
Cool story brah! Too bad you lost your backbones eh? If it was such "good times" why not continue the wars instead of harassing high sec players like you do nowadays? Is it really about ISK and the 'lols' or are you really just bored with how wars are done? If it is boring now why take it out on High Sec players? If it is not boring why not fight some wars?
I just don't understand you nulls...
Crushing NC.Dot as you flail on the forums. The reason why we go for you lot in high sec is because you provide so much easy isk. We feast upon the stupidity of empire dwellers and boy have we grown fat. Bad miners and terrible freighter pilots have funded an entire capital fleet for us and made all of our members disgustingly rich over the last year. You are funding a war right now and we thank you for that.
Please don't say "you lot" like all of us fly stupid, I have only lost ships through trying to learn pvp ~which I failed at so I stay away from it~. I for one never fly anything more then I can afford to lose, I never autopilot , I don't buy faction mods and such when T2 does the job and I find mining boring myself yet you still treat us all the same.
If you can't swim you stay the frig away from the water. That apply's in eve as "If you suck at PvP for what ever reason don't waste your isk on it"
You say "Thank you" for funding your war yet you still treat them/us worse ~verbally~ then a mosquito in summer. I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem? |
baltec1
Bat Country
2654
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:02:00 -
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Ritsum wrote:
You say "Thank you" for funding your war yet you still treat them/us worse ~verbally~ then a mosquito in summer.
Only the ones who demand that CCP protects them from their own stupidity. |
Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
229
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:07:00 -
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@ Ritsum, you're actually the very type who goonswarm/etc are NOT against. You play the game, as in actually PLAY the damned game not log in and do something else while gumming on a roid. |
Ritsum
Perkone Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:20:00 -
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Tinja Soikutsu wrote:@ Ritsum, you're actually the very type who goonswarm/etc are NOT against. You play the game, as in actually PLAY the damned game not log in and do something else while gumming on a roid.
That makes me a little bit happy I guess, just frustrating being put into the same group as them since I dwell in a NPC corp because I can't find a group of people who are of like mind.
Though I guess Eve is lucky not having more people of my metal state. >.> I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem? |
Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
229
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:25:00 -
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Hey at least you ain't stuck in a mutual wardec with one of the biggest alliances like I am lol. |
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Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1203
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:47:00 -
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Ritsum wrote:Though I guess Eve is lucky not having more people of my metal state. >.>
We have a pretty stellar newbie program, but you would have to vastly improve your posting ability to be considered. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
229
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:49:00 -
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Just an FYI, much as the 'leadership' of Goonswarm&Co 'officially' frown on any recruitment scamming, it does happen a lot. |
Lord Zim
1898
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:51:00 -
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Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Just an FYI, much as the 'leadership' of Goonswarm&Co 'officially' frown on any recruitment scamming, it does happen a lot. NO! REALLY?!? THIS IS SHOCKING NEWS! Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Ritsum
Perkone Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:57:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Ritsum wrote:Though I guess Eve is lucky not having more people of my metal state. >.> We have a pretty stellar newbie program, but you would have to vastly improve your posting ability to be considered.
If I had a list of corps I would consider worth joining, While also not being on the list Goonswarm would not even be in the waiting line to get on the list. I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem? |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
327
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:59:00 -
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Ritsum wrote: That makes me a little bit happy I guess, just frustrating being put into the same group as them since I dwell in a NPC corp because I can't find a group of people who are of like mind.
Though I guess Eve is lucky not having more people of my metal state. >.>
Genuine advice here:
1) Null Sec players don't hate anyone who plays in Empire. We think Empire offers too much reward and not enough risk and generally we believe risk needs to increase or reward needs to decrease. 2) Null Sec players DO hate whiny High Sec players who moan that they can't do the equivalent of walking through the rough neighbourhood carrying -ú10,000 in cash sticking out of their pocket and not get mugged. Then they feel the need to say how Null Sec is too safe and should be more dangerous etc.
I know nothing about you, but I do feel sorry if you get lumped in with number 2 when you're not like that, I wouldn't want to be lumped in with them.
In terms of your PvP experience and finding a corp etc: You'll struggle to really learn PvP in an NPC corp, and the easiest way to find a corp you like a lot is to join a corp you're OK with. It's like having a job, if you join a PvP corp you'll meet other corps, you might prefer one of them and eventually switch but you'll find it hard to just waltz up to a corp and know if you'll like it there or not. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
229
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Posted - 2012.11.01 09:59:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Just an FYI, much as the 'leadership' of Goonswarm&Co 'officially' frown on any recruitment scamming, it does happen a lot. NO! REALLY?!? THIS IS SHOCKING NEWS! And some of you people wonder why you're hated so much...
On the note of corps for PvP... well if you don't mind being thrown in the deep end MSCS is a good PvE/FW corp. It's a good group of people more then willing to help out on those new to PvP. But a word of warning that UK have recently got caught in a mutual wardec with the decshield alliance&friends, at war with over half a dozen corps at last count and still climbing so a bit of a baptism of fire. |
Riot Girl
RADIO RAMPAGE Initiative Mercenaries
308
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Posted - 2012.11.01 10:00:00 -
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Ritsum wrote:If you can't swim you stay the frig away from the water And when the water can't be avoided, you die. |
Lord Zim
1898
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Posted - 2012.11.01 10:02:00 -
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Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Just an FYI, much as the 'leadership' of Goonswarm&Co 'officially' frown on any recruitment scamming, it does happen a lot. NO! REALLY?!? THIS IS SHOCKING NEWS! And some of you people wonder why you're hated so much... Actually, no, we don't. Want to make something of it? Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home. |
Tinja Soikutsu
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
230
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Posted - 2012.11.01 10:10:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Lord Zim wrote:Tinja Soikutsu wrote:Just an FYI, much as the 'leadership' of Goonswarm&Co 'officially' frown on any recruitment scamming, it does happen a lot. NO! REALLY?!? THIS IS SHOCKING NEWS! And some of you people wonder why you're hated so much... Actually, no, we don't. Want to make something of it? Why bother? You guys make any point I'd try to make better yourselves then I ever could with most of your posts.
Having a problem with the whiny carebares who don't even want to look at another player's ship. Fine.
Just don't treat everyone like that eh?
Trust me, we alllll get you're the biggest alliance group around, and frankly? Most of us simply couldn't give a flying ****. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
960
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Posted - 2012.11.01 10:20:00 -
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Gussarde en Welle wrote:It would - and it's true. Too much complaining and not enough killing amongst the goons. They should all kill each other, thereby allowing them to PvP with peops of like mind.
We shoot blues all the time. Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
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