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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
793
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Posted - 2012.11.06 22:49:00 -
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Eh.
Pro's
1. You can provide non covert hotdrops and quick travel to an entire fleet.
Con's
1. You will end up doing nothing but providing non covert hotdrops and quick travel to an entire fleet.
I guess if you have enough balls and a decent number of them you can blap a lot of capitals off grid.
Really even when they were all powerful I don't think I would have enjoyed flying a giant space coffin that literally dictates when I can and can't do things with my spaceship pilot.
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Vrexstus Mercana
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:34:00 -
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Looking at all ths cons it seems the cons outweigh the pros
Why put it in the game then?
Cant they make eh idk something like the Super star Destroryers from Star wars. its a stupid ideaa but something about that size and maybe half the power? or half the time to train?
I have no intentions on spending my entire EVE career on a titan lol |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1062
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:39:00 -
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They're called Hurricanes. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1703
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Posted - 2012.11.07 06:11:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:They're called Hurricanes. Nothing like a blob of hurricanes ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1062
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Posted - 2012.11.07 06:13:00 -
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I miss welp fleet. www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1704
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Posted - 2012.11.07 06:28:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:I miss welp fleet. It's great against... Titans ^___^ (and supercarriers, of course) Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
1061
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Posted - 2012.11.07 08:34:00 -
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Vrexstus Mercana wrote:Looking at all ths cons it seems the cons outweigh the pros
Why put it in the game then?
Cant they make eh idk something like the Super star Destroryers from Star wars. its a stupid ideaa but something about that size and maybe half the power? or half the time to train?
I have no intentions on spending my entire EVE career on a titan lol
You misunderstand their use I think.
You, or say you and your corp of 10 -20 guys probably wouldn't ever care about a titan.
Its pros are really only seen when invovled in alliance level operations where you have other titans as back up, along with a respectable cap and or supercap fleet around you.
In that case they provide the EVE equivilant of Air Superiority, hostile caps are subject to Doomsdays and Dread levels of DPS output from EACH titan, their huge hitpoints and Ewar immunities give them the ability to command fleets unmolested by the little things raging in the batlte around them. Thier portal allows for sub cap force projection in even hostil territory and they have a cavernous Ship Maintenance array that can move huge numbers of ships around with them ( I think I have about 35-40 ships in my titan right now).
The downside to all that is that when on your own you are sorely vulnerable. You can't really hurt subcaps much on your own after the changes earlier in the year, and that you are stuck inside that magnificent beast. They require huge amounts of fuel that your average small corp or solo player will never really comfortably be able to sustain (refuling my titan is about 700k isotopes, during a busy month that could be an order I put in once a week), and the fittings and implants they take to survive the hostile situations they get put in start at around 10 billion and go up from there.
When I first started I saw a picture of a Leviathan and plugged its skillpath into EVEmon....the result was around 2 years of skill training, and the loss of the alt i put in the titan for anything other than piloting the titan.
As a titan pilot I can promise you that you have time to think about what you're going to do to yourself, spend that time seeing the game, see if you like it and i f you could see yourself picking up a secondary alt that you would try to put in the titan, and then start the long uphill climb to amassing the 100ish billion you'll need for your purchase. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5488
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Posted - 2012.11.07 23:47:00 -
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Ioci wrote:Pro side:
They fit multiple roles Command Ship extreme Structure Bashing with Titans isn't quite as cruel and unusual (even without the DDO) They can run LOL Spider Logistics when you have several of them. Jump Bridge
Down side You can never leave it unless you train 2 Titan books. Extreme ISK sink on your wallet. Skills required to fly it right are unimaginable. I have cruiser 5 in all 4 races, Battleship 5 in two races, all the Adv Cruiser hull skills. As a Titan Pilot those are now useless. Many other skills I trained become trash as well.
I have DDO 4, Capital repair 4, capital Energy weapons 4, Capital remote Armor, Shield, energy and Hull 4 and I still don't feel right about logging in with an Avatar.
My Ideal Skills to get an Avatar Titan?
Capital Energy Turret 5 Capital Repair 5 DDO 5 Amarr Titan 5 Capital remote Armor 5 Capital Energy Transfer 5 Capital Shield transfer 5 Captal Remote Hull 4
All Leadership skills to 5
With all that and 49 or so other like minded people, Up side, Nobody will want to fight you. Down side, nobody will want to fight you.
Yeah so uh why would you fit remote armor reps, cap transfers, shield reps or hull reps on a titan, a ship that has no range bonuses for any of those things and has no business doing any of that crap since one slip-up means 3 million damage mistakenly being applied to another ship in the fleet?
Also fyi you can't doomsday structures hth ~*a-áproud belligerent undesirable*~
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Lin-Young Borovskova
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
896
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Posted - 2012.11.07 23:52:00 -
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Most expensive prison ever in Eve, like it or hate it, it's up to you.
You get a hidden skill up to lvl10 named "hypocrisy interfacing": ability to bridge whatever jerks knowing some are alts/spies just waiting the good moment to get your expensive pixels killed or see you jump instead of bridging just to mok you hard just like you deserve for being that stupid.
Awesome stuff is awesome. brb |
Vrexstus Mercana
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.11.08 00:18:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Vrexstus Mercana wrote:Looking at all ths cons it seems the cons outweigh the pros
Why put it in the game then?
Cant they make eh idk something like the Super star Destroryers from Star wars. its a stupid ideaa but something about that size and maybe half the power? or half the time to train?
I have no intentions on spending my entire EVE career on a titan lol You misunderstand their use I think. You, or say you and your corp of 10 -20 guys probably wouldn't ever care about a titan. Its pros are really only seen when invovled in alliance level operations where you have other titans as back up, along with a respectable cap and or supercap fleet around you. In that case they provide the EVE equivilant of Air Superiority, hostile caps are subject to Doomsdays and Dread levels of DPS output from EACH titan, their huge hitpoints and Ewar immunities give them the ability to command fleets unmolested by the little things raging in the batlte around them. Thier portal allows for sub cap force projection in even hostil territory and they have a cavernous Ship Maintenance array that can move huge numbers of ships around with them ( I think I have about 35-40 ships in my titan right now). The downside to all that is that when on your own you are sorely vulnerable. You can't really hurt subcaps much on your own after the changes earlier in the year, and that you are stuck inside that magnificent beast. They require huge amounts of fuel that your average small corp or solo player will never really comfortably be able to sustain (refuling my titan is about 700k isotopes, during a busy month that could be an order I put in once a week), and the fittings and implants they take to survive the hostile situations they get put in start at around 10 billion and go up from there. When I first started I saw a picture of a Leviathan and plugged its skillpath into EVEmon....the result was around 2 years of skill training, and the loss of the alt i put in the titan for anything other than piloting the titan. As a titan pilot I can promise you that you have time to think about what you're going to do to yourself, spend that time seeing the game, see if you like it and i f you could see yourself picking up a secondary alt that you would try to put in the titan, and then start the long uphill climb to amassing the 100ish billion you'll need for your purchase.
Well i do want to build my own corp soon so investing on this will eventuallly come but as of right now i think not |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1706
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Posted - 2012.11.08 04:23:00 -
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Vrexstus Mercana wrote:Well i do want to build my own corp soon so investing on this will eventuallly come but as of right now i think not Be careful of what you do with it in your corp.
Wouldn't want to one day suddenly find yourself in a bubble then a cyno goes up then a TEST fleet of hurricanes and a bunch of PL titans appear then you get a lossmail for your titan then you see GF in local then a newbie pods you. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Orzo Torasson
PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore
80
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Posted - 2012.11.08 05:03:00 -
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I think that the short answer to your question is- both! A titan is a great advantage to a corp or alliance, but a massive hinderance to the poor bastard that flies it. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1706
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Posted - 2012.11.08 05:06:00 -
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Orzo Torasson wrote:I think that the short answer to your question is- both! A titan is a great advantage to a corp or alliance, but a massive hinderance to the poor bastard that flies it. Sometimes you have to sacrifice for the greater good.
Sometimes, the sacrifice is to keep the other side's killboard nice and green. Don't fit your titan badly, people will laugh. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
822
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Posted - 2012.11.08 07:10:00 -
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Grapez wrote:+ Ability to make the best low-sec gate camp + You will get a lot of friends + Everyone will have you on their friendlist :)
- Can't dock - Won't fit through mission jumpgates - Minmatar and Caldari ones are pretty ugly
leviathan looks awesome wtf you smoking.
as for OP
if you are in a titan 99% of the time you will be logged off to avoid death the other 1% you will probably be BRIDGING fleets to fights, IMO, not worth it unless you are rich. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1707
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Posted - 2012.11.08 07:25:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:Grapez wrote:+ Ability to make the best low-sec gate camp + You will get a lot of friends + Everyone will have you on their friendlist :)
- Can't dock - Won't fit through mission jumpgates - Minmatar and Caldari ones are pretty ugly leviathan looks awesome wtf you smoking. as for OP if you are in a titan 99% of the time you will be logged off to avoid death the other 1% you will probably be BRIDGING fleets to fights, IMO, not worth it unless you are rich. You could also use titans to shoot structures. It's can be a lot faster and safer since you won't even have to wait out a siege cycle, you can jump in, shoot structure (getting cap) and then jump to the next immobile target, if I understand correctly.
So you can bridge AND shoot structures, Double the fun ! Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
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