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Nebu Retski
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2013.08.20 08:24:00 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:Awww come on. It's been discussed over and over again. Launcher works fine with wine patched to properly handle intermediate CAs. That's true, but it doesn't take away that the launcher is still a piece of **** and a ******** idea in it's current implementation. Here are some of the issues that bother me:
- Not all distributions have a wine package available that has the awesomium patch applied
- Not everyone is capable to compile wine by himself so that the awesomium patch can be applied, because it can take some experience to get it to compile.
- Not everyone is willing to compile wine by himself so that the awesomium patch can be applied, because it takes quite some time
- When the launcher checks if the client is up to date, (imo) it's ridiculously slow at it and it seemed like it wanted to do it every ******* time I tried to use it, let alone that it only shows a progress bar without showing what it's doing (unlike the repair tool). I want to see if it's hashing files so that I know the reason why that stupid bar stay's a 25% for 30 seconds or else I tend to assume it hanged.
- Login mutliple accounts looks tedious. Log in -> select char -> launch -> log out; Log in -> select char -> launch -> log out; ... v.s. launch C1, ..., CN -> N x Log in -> N x Select char -> Play;
If they truely want to improve the multiboxing experience then they should make a launcher that asks you how many clients you would like to launch and which accounts + characters you want it to log in. After that the launcher should simply exit, because it does not make any sense to have some software running who's only task is to launch other software (if DRM would be involved it would make more sense, i.e. Steam, but this game requires a subscription so no DRM needed).
After CCP would somehow manage to get a proper launcher then they could think of making a button for people to simply switch character on an account instead of doing the "restart the whole client" stupidity.
To me, the launcher is nothing more than a promotional tool. They want to force their plex deals / tournaments (costing plex) / whatever will fetch them $$ through everyones throat by forcing us to stare at the launcher for as long as CCP is able to have us stare at it.
To me the bin/ExeFile.exe + repair tool is still a far superior method of launching the game and I will for sure use this method until the day it dies or CCP comes up with a proper launcher that:
- Can launch client directly into a character or just the client itself
- Stores launching profiles (#of clients + chars or just # of clients)
- It should store the account passwords so you only need 1 master password to use the launcher
- It doesn't run in the background, but just exits by default once it launched the profile
- Allows us to change launching parameters so we could use the same launcher for different client folders (sisi, duality, ...)
- It would be nice if they stopped relying on proprietary packages that can't run natively on other platforms, so all win, mac and linux users could run the launcher natively and simply changing the client launch in the profile to use wine.
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Kropotkin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.08.25 18:22:00 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:Awww come on. It's been discussed over and over again. Launcher works fine with wine patched to properly handle intermediate CAs. Please, what are "intermediate CAs"? |
Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
63
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:13:00 -
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Xubuntu 12.04 LTS success
Just add the usual ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa repo, do the winetricks magic and play Eve.
0ccupational Hazzard --> check out the true love story-á |
Torgeir Hekard
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:43:00 -
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Kropotkin wrote:Torgeir Hekard wrote:Awww come on. It's been discussed over and over again. Launcher works fine with wine patched to properly handle intermediate CAs. Please, what are "intermediate CAs"? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intermediate_certificate_authorities
For example, look at this very site's cert (for firefox it's the lock icon in URL bar). The certification path is GeoTrust Global > RapidSSL > *.eveonline.com In this case, GeoTrus is the root CA and RapidSSL is the intermediate CA. |
Son Adamu
The Green Machine
0
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:00:00 -
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If anyone have troubs with ATI Radeon HD7xxx series (as I did) on Ubuntu 13.04 (I have Linux Mint 15) - low Eve FPS, generally, system-wide lower FPS, do this:
1. Completely PURGE any ATI drivers you have: IT'S A MUST!
Quote:sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx-amdcccle
Quote:sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates Go to Driver Manager, switch to XORG ones, REBOOT.
2. Download latest BETA (you can use the 13.4, for me, 13.8 beta worked) linux drivers (I have x64) 13.8 version, from AMD's site.
3. Go to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
4. Install driver the third way - manually (user preferred really, I did the 3rd way, worked like a charm)
5. REBOOT.
6. !!! WARNING !!! Due to beta nature of the drivers, your desktop after login may look like its missing half its right surface, REBOOT few times to correct. If no success, go to Driver Manager in System Settings and set it to XORG --> REBOOT --> set to fglrx-updates --> REBOOT (after that, I did't had ANY errors whatsoever)
7. Enjoy EVE on 100FPS, steady 60FPS if you put Tear-Free Desktop on (Vertical Synth always on) in Catalyst
p.s. 13.8 beta drivers have no watermark , so there's no need to make a fuss removing it...
My machine: OS: Mint 15 KDE Proc: Intel i5-2500k Graph: Radeon HD 7870 Black Edition Mem: 8GB 2133MHz MB: Gigabyte ZZ68XP-UD3P |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
304
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Posted - 2013.09.09 17:08:00 -
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Torgeir Hekard wrote:Awww come on. It's been discussed over and over again. Launcher works fine with wine patched to properly handle intermediate CAs.
Actually, it has not been discussed "over and over" again. Hell, do a search for it on google, you don't get much. I've seen the posts in the launcher discussion, but it's bad assembled ramble put together by players. There is no published solution beyond recompiling wine, which no newbie is going to do, nor do you really want them doing it. There is no 'FAQ on dealing with ****** launcher' stickied post, still. It's badly implemented and badly supported. This is the work around I recommend because it's a LOT easier to just bypass their ****** launcher until they fix it.
I hate the idea of publishing a 'patch' by a player that could be used to hack someone's machine.
What bothers me more is that their CDN is crap for the launcher, aka the first thing every player hits when they want to play. And their CDN is fine for many other files that they push out, so I have no idea what their network people are thinking.
And my original reason for a follow up post: wine 1.7.1 seems to work just fine. |
Hulasikali Walla
Never Mind the Bollocks
33
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Posted - 2013.09.22 13:38:00 -
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Working fine with wine 1.6 and Linux mint 15, " windowed mode" on a "old" qosmio G40 ( geforce 8600 M GT )
" launcher is applying patch, but is not launching the game " I use the "exefile.exe" and it work's fine
Thank's for the "how to" |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
440
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Posted - 2013.10.03 15:24:00 -
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Getting reports of corrupted icons, thread on this process: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=3690177
This still functions for me with 1.1. |
Black Jester
S Is Here
1
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Posted - 2013.11.05 18:32:00 -
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Just want to confirm: CQ still not working? I wonder what changed cuz i remember it was working at some point. Many players don't bother with it but i love the feature and would love to turn it on. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
493
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Posted - 2013.11.06 17:30:00 -
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Black Jester wrote:Just want to confirm: CQ still not working? I wonder what changed cuz i remember it was working at some point. Many players don't bother with it but i love the feature and would love to turn it on.
Last I tried, it did not work, but that was a new box with a crap video card. Space part ran fine, even with 3 clients though. |
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MolotovBeats
hinterland.
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Posted - 2013.11.19 01:20:00 -
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I just installed Eve on Ubuntu 12.04 without any problems. While OP's post is very helpful, it is a little outdated and can/should be updated a little to reflect the current situation; a lot of things have been simplified. Please note that this doesn't apply to Rubicon, which comes out tomorrow and might cause a ton of new issues, knowing CCP.
1. Install aptitude & update it per OP 2. sudo aptitude install wine1.7 winetricks 3. Download the regular Windows installer, run it using "wine /path/to/installer.exe" 4. Use default options, everything should install correctly 5. After install is finished, run winecfg, tick the option that says "Emulate virtual desktop" and set it to your monitor resolution 6. Start Eve by running "wine "C:\\Program Files (X86)\\CCP\\EVE\\eve.exe"
All of this gives me a great working installation with the only issue being some text missing in the market graph windows, I'm assuming there's some font missing, and wine spams "resource_check_usage" errors to the console like there's no tomorrow. Make sure to lower all the graphics settings and unclick "load station environment" on first launch. I did not have any problems with the EULA, the launcher, or anything else.
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Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
544
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Posted - 2013.11.20 18:32:00 -
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MolotovBeats wrote:While OP's post is very helpful, it is a little outdated and can/should be updated a little to reflect the current situation;
You are correct, I should do the tldr version at the top. I really should just do a picture gallery to install, actually.
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Marduk Nibiru
WH Junkies Corp The Methodical Alliance
191
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Posted - 2013.12.13 05:53:00 -
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I'm having trouble every time I run eve: "Procedure not found. Could not load python dll."
I did run winetricks d3dx9_36.
Am I missing something else?
I actually used the ubuntu app UI thingy and install windows compatibility. Figured that installed wine, and it did activate the installer and all that crap. |
Marduk Nibiru
WH Junkies Corp The Methodical Alliance
191
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Posted - 2013.12.13 09:34:00 -
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Marduk Nibiru wrote:I'm having trouble every time I run eve: "Procedure not found. Could not load python dll."
I did run winetricks d3dx9_36.
Am I missing something else?
I actually used the ubuntu app UI thingy and install windows compatibility. Figured that installed wine, and it did activate the installer and all that crap.
I got it going. Whole lot of different things but I think it was simply updating wine that did it. Ubuntu comes with an old version but if you google for directions, updating to the beta is pretty damn easy.
To get in I first had to disable station environment, but then once in game I was able to re-enable it to get station spinning. It's just the captain's quarters that crash. Can't play eve without the spin though!
Edit: Oh, and I removed all the custom library settings that various different sites said to use. Totally default wine config. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
556
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Posted - 2013.12.26 19:56:00 -
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BTW, this continues to work with Wine 1.6.1, so feel free to upgrade.
I most likely will upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS in April, btw. |
Kropotkin
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:21:00 -
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Today's automatic Ubuntu 12.04 update made EVE segfault upon launch.
Problem went away after I uninstalled and reinstalled the proprietary AMD Catalyst driver. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
563
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Posted - 2014.01.07 19:33:00 -
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Kropotkin wrote:Today's automatic Ubuntu 12.04 update made EVE segfault upon launch.
Problem went away after I uninstalled and reinstalled the proprietary AMD Catalyst driver.
Still not having problems with nvidia driver 304 and wine 1.6.1. (Which is surprising!) |
khan Ikkala
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:37:00 -
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Waruiko wrote:well i guess i might need a dedicated card then. I had hoped the built in bits would work without because of all the ram, bit I guess not...
Thanks to those who came before me, the 12.04 version posts on this page helped.
I got 13.10 to work on my PCIe mb, a lot easier than some of you had in 12.04 If you call reloading the system 4 times. Some mboards MAY need to upgrade their video card to get current drivers.
Here is what I did: * * * * * * *
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-wine
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install wine1.6 winetricks alsa-oss #(wine tricks + sound)
On the EULA, wait for it to load, some people have reported crashes by messing with it early.
Setup a shell script to start eve, I used: /usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" /usr/bin/aoss wine explorer /desktop=eve1,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\eve.exe" #Note the low resolution here. It will change to max when you log in.
get EVE install files from ... http://community.eveonline.com/support/download/online-installer/
Put the online-installer file in: $HOME/.wine/drive_c/EVE_Online_Installer_6xxxx.exe You now should have a hidden .wine directory as well as others in Your home directory. Execute the installer IN THAT DIRECTORY and accept the defaults.(suggested) Downloads 5.5gb+ of files.
After completing (it will unzip automatically) & install the files & icon, when you click 'Finish' the EVE login screen will pop up. Let it download the update, it will automatically go to EVE online. Let it update to the current EVE system. Then Close/Exit it at this point.
You need to create a link to an App. > /usr/bin/winecfg clicking on the WineCFG file will bring up a setup window. Under Applications, select Add app.... Click thru directories until you find EVE.exe Select it, click ok to close.
The install should have created an icon for you to run EVE from your Home directory, click it. You can then log-in. NOTE: not all the graphics may show on the log-in screen.
Good Luck,
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Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
589
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Posted - 2014.02.11 22:18:00 -
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Everything still working great under wine 1.6.1. I will most likely do a new thread when 14.04 LTS hits, with everything cleaned up. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
601
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Posted - 2014.04.10 16:16:00 -
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Just bumping that this is still working quite well.
Is anyone else going to be going to Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? When 14.04 comes out in two weeks, I most likely will do a fresh install, will update these instructions, and ask the old thread be locked. |
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Dr Shameless
The 8th Order
16
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:18:00 -
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Running eve right now on Linux Mint 16.
With playonlinux (wine frontend) everything works perfectly. Had to install a better amd display driver but that was to get rid of other unrelated problems :) |
Charsi Servire
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
0
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Posted - 2014.04.23 18:09:00 -
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Just updated to Ubuntu 14.04 and as far as the OS goes, it's an improvement. Smoother, fewer errors etc. However, it broke my EVE. The launcher loads just fine (nice and fast) but when I click play, it sits there for a minute, looking like it's going to load the client, but instead the Play button just returns to normal and no client ever loads.
I'm running eve under Playonlinux and their site doesn't seem to load for me so I'm going to have to find an alternative way to install the latest wine under my POL virtual drive.
Anyone running into any issues with EVE since the 14.04 release? |
Androxian
Svea Rike Fatal Ascension
0
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Posted - 2014.04.24 22:34:00 -
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I did a fresh install of 14.04 LTS, installed the usual stuff and drivers.
Then I just installed the latest Wine and installed EVE. Started the game with the launcher and it worked fine.
I just had some problems with one of my chars. It always crashed after selecting it at the character select screen. I lowered some of the graphics settings and it worked after that. Then I just cranked the settings up to max again and it was back to normal. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
605
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Posted - 2014.04.28 18:45:00 -
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I'll be rebuilding my workstation later this week sometime, will simplify this thread a bit with complete instructions, with simple tldr instructions up top.
How do you guys like 14.04 now? Am I going to want to kill Unity still? I'm pretty happy with XFCE though. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
605
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Posted - 2014.05.06 22:23:00 -
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# Tenative steps on my Ubuntu 14.04 LTS rebuild, taking advice before I start the new thread:
Note: My shell scripts use 'e1' as eve with launcher, and 'v1' without launcher. The launcher is slow and unreliable on Linux, but necessary to patch.
- Install Ubuntu 14.04 desktop (or server if you're a masochist like me)
- Install your video driver. I am using nvidia-current, with Settings | Software & Updates | Additional Drivers | Nvidia Proprietary.
- Install Eve. Download the offline installer files ( http://community.eveonline.com/support/download/offline-installer/ ) and navigate to it with a file manager. Right click select 'Run as Wine Windows Loader'.
- Pick location, I chose C:\Games\CCP\EVE. (I changed Program Files (x86) to Games)
- In the mean time, setup a few shell scripts. (/usr/bin/aoss is optional if you want it.)
"~/bin/v1" wrote: # This is your 'no updates' shell script. I save this in ~/bin/v1
# this is commented out, but here if you want to test overrides, which some people have needed. #export WINEDLLOVERRIDES="msvcr100,msvcr90,msvcr80=n,b;msvcrt=b,n"
# This runs in .wine, with standard display, using the desktop variable 'eve1' with a size, with a location. /usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" wine explorer /desktop=eve1,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\exefile.exe"
"~/bin/e1" wrote: # This is your launcher shell script. Use it when you have updates to run. I save this in ~/bin/e1
# this is commented out, but here if you want to test overrides, which some people have needed. #export WINEDLLOVERRIDES="msvcr100,msvcr90,msvcr80=n,b;msvcrt=b,n"
# This runs in .wine, with standard display, using the desktop variable 'eve1' with a size, with a location. /usr/bin/env WINEPREFIX="$HOME/.wine" DISPLAY=":0.0" wine explorer /desktop=eve1,1024x768 "C:\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\exefile.exe"
- For multiple instances, you copy ~/bin/v1 to ~/bin/v2, and edit the file to use 'eve2' instead of 'eve1' on the command line. This can be as many as your machine can handle.
- After the install is complete, it will start the launcher itself. It might not launch correctly at first, and might be missing the 'login' options on the left. This is due to an SSL bug particular to Linux. Just wait for it to finish validating and patching though. If it fails, you can run the ~/bin/v1 script.
- After you are patched, you can launch, and it will take awhile to launch the first time, particularly the EULA.
- Go to Settings | video Settings | uncheck load station environment. You want to avoid loading Captain's Quarters.
Here is a script that will setup 3 instances for you as well:
I'm getting significant tearing on these drivers, so I'll keep refining this until I'm happy. |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
606
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Posted - 2014.05.08 17:38:00 -
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My tearing was based off no-reboot after installing video driver.
I'm going to rip out the winetricks stuff as well, any objections? |
Kismeteer
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
606
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Posted - 2014.05.08 18:38:00 -
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Okay, I'm happy with the new thread, it's posted. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4568464#post4568464
Thanks for everyone's help with the previous version of Ubuntu, hopefully these artifacts of old can disappear over time.
Mods, please lock. Thanks! |
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