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Harbingour
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Posted - 2012.11.20 18:46:00 -
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Cipio Hakoke wrote:Well i can't speak to if the demand is so high atm, but as inflation occurs the prices will steadily rise. There was a big spike in plex a while ago when all the tourney people were buying up plex.
Right now we really are in a bit of an information black out concerning the economy... last thing CCP semi officially said about the economy was in the CSM minutes where i twas stated that there was actually a period of deflation in Eve ( PLEX was still inflating at this time though?!?! )
I think right after the last FW change to the summer of LP bonanza PLEX saw a drop of40 million ISK but since they've held steady. If PLEX start rising again expect the NULL folks to blame HI SEC & scream for nerfs of all things in HI SEC without any factual basis of stats.
Only thing right now CCP can pull out to combat inflation if its really still unabaited is CCP Soundwave's threat for an across the board 10% bounties cut unless new sinks are introduced quickly. Expect the howels in the forums then to induce bleeding of the ears especially ifwe see repeat of how Incursions 10% cut decimated them. ( Interestingly enough it WAS NOT the 10% payout cut that stunted sites: it was a near doubling of rats which caused tripling oftime to complete the sites and Wall of OTAs... if the new AI causes a tripleing of time to complete missions like what happened with Incursions I predict a time of troubles & HI sec unsubs ) Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
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Posted - 2012.11.21 02:17:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Funny you say that. I DO consider mackinaws in empire that make 14-18m/hr (more like 25+ when fleet boosted by an orca) to be a problem, a major contributing factor to why plexes are not falling in the wake of the FW nerf and even slowly continuing to rise. However, that's not necessarily a problem with high sec itself so much as it is the state CCP has left the mineral market in. If low end prices were "normal" - say, trit for 3.5, pyerite at 5, mex at 30 and isogen at 60 - then it would be more like 7-8m/hr, 11-13 with an orca booster, which is far more reasonable for an almost entirely afk activity. Not that you'll acknowledge this, of course, as any and all nerfs to highsec are unwarranted, in your mind.
Well if the MACK yeids were doubled then I'd predict mineral prices would fall closer to 4 ISK so instead of a nerf what we'd really need is a buff to equalize the prices .So I acknowlege the mineral prices you espouse but would like to see it thru a buff instead of a nerf Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
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Posted - 2012.11.21 02:21:00 -
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[quote=Vaal Erit]Well this is awkward. CCP blamed FW for the rapid rise of PLEX and it has been 2 weeks and counting since the FW nerf and PLEX has been going up in price. Oops. /quote]
Incorrect PLEX price spiked to about 650 million now we're at a shade under 600 million ISK
Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
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Posted - 2012.11.21 19:08:00 -
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corestwo wrote:Harbingour wrote: It'd be tuff to blame Incursions. I'm willing to bet INCURSIONS per month ISK faucet fell 70-85% TO BETWEEN 1.1 & 2.2 TRILLION ISK PER MONTH.
I sure hope that you mean the faucet only from incursions and not the total faucet here. Because if you mean the total faucet, then uh...lets just say you're wrong. Very, very wrong.
FIXED. I do agree/think that the addition of drone bounties increased the TOTAL ISK faucets (possibly significantly) and bounties are far larger a percentage of the faucets now. I am very cursious if post Escalation Incursion nerf if WH blue loots increased from ~10 trillion to more then 12 trillion with the abandonment of Incrusions farmers migrating mostly to FW or WH? I miss CCP Diagoras Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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Harbingour
EVE Corporation 690846961
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Posted - 2012.11.22 08:10:00 -
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corestwo wrote: WH blue loots weren't ~10T. The total of everything NPCs bought was ~10T. WH loot was in the 6-7T range.
not according to this: http://twostep4csm.blogspot.com/2012/03/its-econmony-stupid.html
corestwo wrote: it's probably safe to say that the drone regions were not that large of an increase in the bounties faucet.
It was not just the Drone regions that saw the drone bounty increase though HI SEC had quite afew drone missions I recall from my earliest days. I don't think it is safeto say anything & we are in a economy ino blackout right nowIMHO Meta-gaming for NULL SECCers: Whine on the forums until CCP gets sick of you and hands you everything you ask for just to shut you up. Typical NULL SEC arguement to NERF HI SEC-á-á http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csPPqdbcVwM
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