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Devaroni
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Posted - 2012.12.18 01:50:00 -
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So what is happening to the pre-reqs for skills such as Command Ships? Currently Command Ships require BattleCruisers to V... are there going to be racial command ships? |
Devaroni
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:21:00 -
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Mund Richard wrote:Devaroni wrote:Vulture (Command Ship) Pre-Reqs
- Caldari Cruiser V
- Caldari Battlecruiser V
- Logistics IV
- Command Shps I
- - Warefare Link Specialist IV (primary pre-req for Command Ships)
Is this correct? No. ... Oh, should I go for a longer answer? Was in a devblog or something. Tiericided skill requirements won't require any other ship class at V but the T1 version. In return, they are looking into ways to keep the time to sit in one similar. ... Which I find silly with the current pre-tiericided T2's state, as T3s take less time to get into, and are quite often more prefered. ...But it may be a Me problem. Edit: link1. Missing the second half - for now.
Ok so the new assumption would be something along the lines of...
Vulture (Command Ship) Pre-Reqs
- Caldari Battlecruiser V
- Logistics IV or higher
- Command Shps I or higher
- - Warefare Link Specialist IV or higher (primary pre-req for Command Ships)
- Possible other skills to make training time the same
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Devaroni
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Posted - 2012.12.18 02:29:00 -
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Mund Richard wrote: CCP Ytterbium wrote: Now, training for an Absolution requires you to train for Amarr Frigate 4, Amarr Destroyer 4, Amarr Cruiser 4 and Amarr Battlecruiser at 5. There is no more need for the Amarr Cruiser 5 and Heavy Assault Ship at 4.
Based on his example, Logi IV should be going away as well. Unless they tune stuff.
So has it been stated that these skills are being removed? And if so, that means people will get their SP back to spend on whatever they want? I guess with that example there doesn't seem to be a need for them unless they make with specific to ship role bonuses, but not ship requirements...
* EDIT * I found some older blog talking about this as well... seems that logi, heavy assault ship, etc skills are still being used, but you just don't need them at 4 (so assuming just at 1, and each level applies new role-bonuses) |
Devaroni
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Posted - 2012.12.18 03:29:00 -
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Tyberius Franklin wrote:Devaroni wrote:Mund Richard wrote: CCP Ytterbium wrote: Now, training for an Absolution requires you to train for Amarr Frigate 4, Amarr Destroyer 4, Amarr Cruiser 4 and Amarr Battlecruiser at 5. There is no more need for the Amarr Cruiser 5 and Heavy Assault Ship at 4.
Based on his example, Logi IV should be going away as well. Unless they tune stuff. So has it been stated that these skills are being removed? And if so, that means people will get their SP back to spend on whatever they want? I guess with that example there doesn't seem to be a need for them unless they make with specific to ship role bonuses, but not ship requirements... * EDIT * I found some older blog talking about this as well... seems that logi, heavy assault ship, etc skills are still being used, but you just don't need them at 4 (so assuming just at 1, and each level applies new role-bonuses) Where was this? The only time I saw such a change to a tech 2 skill was for exhumers as the ships were tiered while being T2 ships. And even then not as an unlock for another class. Also why would there be any SP refund, there are still ships that use the prerequisite class skills?
http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9129 |
Devaroni
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Posted - 2012.12.18 15:41:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote:Devaroni wrote:http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9129 You might want to read that picture again, to make sure you understand it correctly. For the Amarr command ships, neigher logistics nor HAC skills will be required, according to the following picture (Taken from the handy explanation in the dev. blog you linked): http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/8742/1/Skilltreeafter_1920.jpgLogistics ships will still use the logistics skill and get bonuses as it is now, but the fleet command won't use the skill.
Don't get me wrong, I am training the skills as we speak to do this, I am just simply wanting to understand fully in detail about what's going to happen.
The blog I posted ( http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=9129 ) does show new "ship progressions" pics for each race further down... I guess I mistook that for skill progression on some level. The way the arrows line up with that is a tad bit confusing to me, so if someone could explain the ship line pictures better I might not be so confused on the subject :) |
Devaroni
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Posted - 2012.12.30 01:33:00 -
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Yup I found this video which helped a lot... it had an extra picture on that slide that wasn't on any of the Dev Blogs (maybe a DEV can post a high quality picture of it up?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5wnCBfkMh8
That's the video... the picture is here (poor quality):
http://i.imgur.com/8m5uc.jpg?1
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Devaroni
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Posted - 2012.12.31 18:19:00 -
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They don't have that particular picture I posted though... not in high quality... they only have the old trees |
Devaroni
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Posted - 2012.12.31 18:20:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:CCP has said that if you're partially through training BC IV to BC V, you will only get racial BC IV after the change, and the partial levels will not transfer.
Can you show me where that was stated? So do you get reimbursed the points if you are partially trained in BCs? I mean if i spend 20 days training BC V, and I only make it through 15 days of training before the patch hits... do I lose those 15 days?
I'd like a source for this information too if you have it. |
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