Now if everyone did this, there would be no more minerals, people would pay more for them,

Good question. I've never mined. It looks really boring... I have no idea why people do it.

Good question. I've never mined. It looks really boring... I have no idea why people do it.

I've been playing Eve for about 2 and a half years now, time has flown by and it doesn't seem like that long ago that I would laugh at my mates for playing MMOs. That said, I'm here and still enjoying it (to a point!)

I have a few accounts and do what I need to play the game. I don't think it costs that much to get involved in PVP but the ethos of bigger=better is always there and of course you must have an X-type fitted Vindicator in amongst your PVP assets even if it's never undocked before.

However, to reach these goals we must either endure, running missions/plex/exploration/incursions and what not. Or we must buy plex. But there is the other side of Eve that enjoys Spreadsheets online. The miners/industrialists.

I have never understood why you would sit mining an asteroid belt solo making 10m per hour at the most (unless you're in 0.0 hidden belts) to fund your PVP activities. Just recently I did some belt ratting in a tier 3 BC to up my sec status, and actually made an average of 20m per hour, at which point I'm not even trying to get ISK, I'm just trying to repair SS.

I was curious to this mining thing. So made 3x buddy accounts to train for mining barges. I already had a guy that can fly an Orca, so I bought one of them along with a few covetors and now I'm 950m down. That's ok, they're assets and will be counted as such on a balance sheet.

I head to the highsec belts, knowing full well not to expect great fortune, however comforted in people telling me hi-sec ores are worth nearly as much as the null sec offerings.

So I start up a movie on my laptop (This is England) expecting to click a few buttons over the next 2 hours and end up with a bunch of rocks. Wrong. Mining requires micromanagement! The cycle time on my strippers being just under 2 minutes meant I had; at most, 2 minutes free at a time. But after a few cycles and some rocks getting eaten quicker it's to the point that you have to constantly be activating them, that's not even including jettisoning the ore and then tractoring it with the Orca.

So the movie finishes about 2 hours later and I check my items hanger. 39m worth of Ore. Holy ****. That is OREful.

Now I'm sure a professional rock eater must be able to increase the efficiency of what I was doing, however then you're at the point where you're constantly watching the screen, and you might aswell be doing something that rewards your concentration. A well fit battleship costs 1/2 that of an Orca, and in 0.0 you can do anomolies that will make you more than 60m per hour. I dread to think how many hulks you would need to generate that level of income from selling minerals.

Now that brings us to the next point, who sells minerals? Do the miners all build with the minerals? If you do, you might aswell go grab a battleship, do what I said and make 4x the income you would doing mining, use that isk to go and buy all the minerals you want.

Now if everyone did this, there would be no more minerals, people would pay more for them, and mining would appeal to more people.

And I guess this is my point, are we still in the point where individuals still have buckets of minerals from botting or do people just not realise what a waste of time it is ???

tldr; if you're mining you're doing it wrong.

You made the mistake of mining ore. mine Ice.

If you don't like mining, don't do it.

If you don't like square dancing, don't ell the people that enjoy square dancing that they are doing it wrong. If you don't like watching the soccer game with your mates, don't tell your mates that they are doing it wrong. If you don't like mining in EVE Online, don't tell miners they are doing it wrong.

Some people value their play time in terms of ISK/hr, others by successful inventions per day, others by kills, k/d ratio and losses/inflicted ratio. Some people measure their enjoyment of the game by how many people they get to chat with during their play time. Some people simply want to do something with their corporation ingame while jointly watching sports or a movie: the game is really just a fancy IMVU for the duration.

If I got into an Omen and flew into lowsec then came back to the forums to complain about how unenjoyable it was to be blown up by that Arazu and Rook, you would laugh at me. The reverse is true when pilots come to the forums to whine about mining being unprofitable or boring.

Ice is even worse at 8mil an hour.

OP; People will play the way they want to play. The only issue I have with some profession (ice mining) is when they become an activity where you profit for not actually playing the game.

Oh look a new

" Stop doing what you want to do in this sandbox game , and play my way as it has to be right" Thread


Note this is from an RvB toon... all i do is shoot pixels and bump the recruitment forum

You bump the recruitment forum.

You evil callous person

Personally I have mining alts for when I want to make isk but have too hard a day in RL to want to think or I have too much RL work to do and don't want to spend most of my time concentrating on EvE.

The whole game is a waste of time.

The other day I worked for about an hour at my RL job, got paid, and made 571 million ISK just like that. One hour of work, 571 million! 2 hours of work, a billion! Day of work, 5 billion! In a month, I'm going to have 150 billion! By August next year, trillionaire. Richer than alliances! All solo!

I don't understand how you people can stand to do anything in this game, when it clearly does not even come close to the payout of a job.

Fixed ... should pay more attention to the smiles that i am clicking

Mining is better ISK/effort than ship spinning.

Being a still makes you a forum bumper.

or not

Then there was the time I found out the girl I was dating was sleeping with her boss-- some creepy, old married man. God damn, that was a kick to the gut...I was so shell shocked all I could do was stare numbly at my computer monitor as the soothing, blue whisper of a laser pulled those ugly, brown rocks out of the sky. For weeks i stared, as if the dreamy blue line was a laser scalpel cutting the bad parts out of my mind. Oh geez, now I've bummed everyone out. I think I'll go mine.

588*3
-------- = 13 hours and 37 minutes of mining a month. "13.363636 continued" for the curious minded folks.
(44*3)

I miss the relaxing blue ribbons of ice harvesters, accompanied by that seductive vooooossshh voooooossshh. Now it's all harsh industrial sounds and definitely not relaxing.

Umm it is a game, we do it for pleasure. A job is done to pay bills, save for retirement, buy cool cars ect..

People mine because it's easy to write a bot for it.


thing is, it actually isnt.
even I, who have probably sold less than 100 mods in my entire EVE career, could park in Jita and buy low, sell high for more isk than mining.

???
Really?
Mining is better ISK/hr than doing NOTHING. Trading or market whatever-ing is doing something.

I didn't think I would have to clarify that.

I've been playing Eve for about 2 and a half years now, time has flown by and it doesn't seem like that long ago that I would laugh at my mates for playing MMOs. That said, I'm here and still enjoying it (to a point!)

I have a few accounts and do what I need to play the game. I don't think it costs that much to get involved in PVP but the ethos of bigger=better is always there and of course you must have an X-type fitted Vindicator in amongst your PVP assets even if it's never undocked before.

However, to reach these goals we must either endure, running missions/plex/exploration/incursions and what not. Or we must buy plex. But there is the other side of Eve that enjoys Spreadsheets online. The miners/industrialists.

I have never understood why you would sit mining an asteroid belt solo making 10m per hour at the most (unless you're in 0.0 hidden belts) to fund your PVP activities. Just recently I did some belt ratting in a tier 3 BC to up my sec status, and actually made an average of 20m per hour, at which point I'm not even trying to get ISK, I'm just trying to repair SS.

I was curious to this mining thing. So made 3x buddy accounts to train for mining barges. I already had a guy that can fly an Orca, so I bought one of them along with a few covetors and now I'm 950m down. That's ok, they're assets and will be counted as such on a balance sheet.

I head to the highsec belts, knowing full well not to expect great fortune, however comforted in people telling me hi-sec ores are worth nearly as much as the null sec offerings.

So I start up a movie on my laptop (This is England) expecting to click a few buttons over the next 2 hours and end up with a bunch of rocks. Wrong. Mining requires micromanagement! The cycle time on my strippers being just under 2 minutes meant I had; at most, 2 minutes free at a time. But after a few cycles and some rocks getting eaten quicker it's to the point that you have to constantly be activating them, that's not even including jettisoning the ore and then tractoring it with the Orca.

So the movie finishes about 2 hours later and I check my items hanger. 39m worth of Ore. Holy ****. That is OREful.

Now I'm sure a professional rock eater must be able to increase the efficiency of what I was doing, however then you're at the point where you're constantly watching the screen, and you might aswell be doing something that rewards your concentration. A well fit battleship costs 1/2 that of an Orca, and in 0.0 you can do anomolies that will make you more than 60m per hour. I dread to think how many hulks you would need to generate that level of income from selling minerals.

Now that brings us to the next point, who sells minerals? Do the miners all build with the minerals? If you do, you might aswell go grab a battleship, do what I said and make 4x the income you would doing mining, use that isk to go and buy all the minerals you want.

Now if everyone did this, there would be no more minerals, people would pay more for them, and mining would appeal to more people.

And I guess this is my point, are we still in the point where individuals still have buckets of minerals from botting or do people just not realise what a waste of time it is ???

tldr; if you're mining you're doing it wrong.

90% of the items you buy are made by players. Now if they removed mining from the game how would you buy your ships and weapons ? Fly about killing rats till one of them dropped a hull ?

If this is the game you want then go play WoW.

To answer your question OP, some people (I'm talking about me!) just arent intrested in Fights AT ALL. They just dont give me the kick. On the other hand, the awesome economy system EvE's having is just so epic that words cant describe it. Yet you can manage Hauling and Trading while mining (assuming you have alts).

In total, it costs me as much concentration as just playing 1 Account and do Mission Running - but the hell, THAT is whats really boring in my eyes. Don't get me wrong, have fun with it if youd enjoy it, but its just not everybodys deal.

tldr; if you're mining you're doing it wrong.

Miners complained their job was boring so we provided a bit of excitement. They then whined that it was unfair that they couldn't mine with a max yeild setup without risk so CCP nerfed ganking. Miners now complain that their job is boring...

It was never miners complaining that mining was boring. If they find mining boring, they're just PvP pilots desperate for ISK, thinking that mining is an ISK-making exercise.

You can thank people like Alikchialeika for the barge buff. All that effort into ganking miners, triggering CCP to make mining barges just a little more survivable in a hostile environment. Your collective industrialization of miner harassment efforts will keep the hisec buffs coming. Which is what you want, after all.

We now know that if we do nothing to counter fools on the forums bad things will happen. Hence why we are now keeping a detailed record on our freighter piracy so that CCP cannot be fooled into another disasterous event like the unbalanced barge changes.

Do you think they'll listen to logic, and numbers?

I've been playing Eve for about 2 and a half years now, time has flown by and it doesn't seem like that long ago that I would laugh at my mates for playing MMOs. That said, I'm here and still enjoying it (to a point!)

I have a few accounts and do what I need to play the game. I don't think it costs that much to get involved in PVP but the ethos of bigger=better is always there and of course you must have an X-type fitted Vindicator in amongst your PVP assets even if it's never undocked before.

However, to reach these goals we must either endure, running missions/plex/exploration/incursions and what not. Or we must buy plex. But there is the other side of Eve that enjoys Spreadsheets online. The miners/industrialists.

I have never understood why you would sit mining an asteroid belt solo making 10m per hour at the most (unless you're in 0.0 hidden belts) to fund your PVP activities. Just recently I did some belt ratting in a tier 3 BC to up my sec status, and actually made an average of 20m per hour, at which point I'm not even trying to get ISK, I'm just trying to repair SS.

I was curious to this mining thing. So made 3x buddy accounts to train for mining barges. I already had a guy that can fly an Orca, so I bought one of them along with a few covetors and now I'm 950m down. That's ok, they're assets and will be counted as such on a balance sheet.

I head to the highsec belts, knowing full well not to expect great fortune, however comforted in people telling me hi-sec ores are worth nearly as much as the null sec offerings.

So I start up a movie on my laptop (This is England) expecting to click a few buttons over the next 2 hours and end up with a bunch of rocks. Wrong. Mining requires micromanagement! The cycle time on my strippers being just under 2 minutes meant I had; at most, 2 minutes free at a time. But after a few cycles and some rocks getting eaten quicker it's to the point that you have to constantly be activating them, that's not even including jettisoning the ore and then tractoring it with the Orca.

So the movie finishes about 2 hours later and I check my items hanger. 39m worth of Ore. Holy ****. That is OREful.

Now I'm sure a professional rock eater must be able to increase the efficiency of what I was doing, however then you're at the point where you're constantly watching the screen, and you might aswell be doing something that rewards your concentration. A well fit battleship costs 1/2 that of an Orca, and in 0.0 you can do anomolies that will make you more than 60m per hour. I dread to think how many hulks you would need to generate that level of income from selling minerals.

Now that brings us to the next point, who sells minerals? Do the miners all build with the minerals? If you do, you might aswell go grab a battleship, do what I said and make 4x the income you would doing mining, use that isk to go and buy all the minerals you want.

Now if everyone did this, there would be no more minerals, people would pay more for them, and mining would appeal to more people.

And I guess this is my point, are we still in the point where individuals still have buckets of minerals from botting or do people just not realise what a waste of time it is ???

tldr; if you're mining you're doing it wrong.

We now know that if we do nothing to counter fools on the forums bad things will happen. Hence why we are now keeping a detailed record on our freighter piracy so that CCP cannot be fooled into another disasterous event like the unbalanced barge changes.

Ice is even worse at 8mil an hour.

OP; People will play the way they want to play. The only issue I have with some profession (ice mining) is when they become an activity where you profit for not actually playing the game.

And what do they use those accounts for then they max out every mining related skill?

Conveniently enough, when you've maxed out every mining-related skill, you are in a good place to set up a combat fleet with booster, since you have all the "support skills" to 5. Electronics, Engineering, Shield Operation, Shield Management, Leadership, Siege Warfare Specialist, Warfare Link Specialist GǪ you did say every mining related skill to 5, right?

I've been playing Eve for about 2 and a half years now, time has flown by and it doesn't seem like that long ago that I would laugh at my mates for playing MMOs. That said, I'm here and still enjoying it (to a point!)

I have a few accounts and do what I need to play the game. I don't think it costs that much to get involved in PVP but the ethos of bigger=better is always there and of course you must have an X-type fitted Vindicator in amongst your PVP assets even if it's never undocked before.

However, to reach these goals we must either endure, running missions/plex/exploration/incursions and what not. Or we must buy plex. But there is the other side of Eve that enjoys Spreadsheets online. The miners/industrialists.

I have never understood why you would sit mining an asteroid belt solo making 10m per hour at the most (unless you're in 0.0 hidden belts) to fund your PVP activities. Just recently I did some belt ratting in a tier 3 BC to up my sec status, and actually made an average of 20m per hour, at which point I'm not even trying to get ISK, I'm just trying to repair SS.

I was curious to this mining thing. So made 3x buddy accounts to train for mining barges. I already had a guy that can fly an Orca, so I bought one of them along with a few covetors and now I'm 950m down. That's ok, they're assets and will be counted as such on a balance sheet.

I head to the highsec belts, knowing full well not to expect great fortune, however comforted in people telling me hi-sec ores are worth nearly as much as the null sec offerings.

So I start up a movie on my laptop (This is England) expecting to click a few buttons over the next 2 hours and end up with a bunch of rocks. Wrong. Mining requires micromanagement! The cycle time on my strippers being just under 2 minutes meant I had; at most, 2 minutes free at a time. But after a few cycles and some rocks getting eaten quicker it's to the point that you have to constantly be activating them, that's not even including jettisoning the ore and then tractoring it with the Orca.

So the movie finishes about 2 hours later and I check my items hanger. 39m worth of Ore. Holy ****. That is OREful.

Now I'm sure a professional rock eater must be able to increase the efficiency of what I was doing, however then you're at the point where you're constantly watching the screen, and you might aswell be doing something that rewards your concentration. A well fit battleship costs 1/2 that of an Orca, and in 0.0 you can do anomolies that will make you more than 60m per hour. I dread to think how many hulks you would need to generate that level of income from selling minerals.

Now that brings us to the next point, who sells minerals? Do the miners all build with the minerals? If you do, you might aswell go grab a battleship, do what I said and make 4x the income you would doing mining, use that isk to go and buy all the minerals you want.

Now if everyone did this, there would be no more minerals, people would pay more for them, and mining would appeal to more people.

And I guess this is my point, are we still in the point where individuals still have buckets of minerals from botting or do people just not realise what a waste of time it is ???

tldr; if you're mining you're doing it wrong.

Conveniently enough, when you've maxed out every mining-related skill, you are in a good place to set up a combat fleet with booster, since you have all the "support skills" to 5. Electronics, Engineering, Shield Operation, Shield Management, Leadership, Siege Warfare Specialist, Warfare Link Specialist GǪ you did say every mining related skill to 5, right?

This. And let's not forget trade, manufacturing and research.

Holy crap, 8mil an hour. Clearly a game-breaking activity. If you're so worried about "playing" you should clean up your own backyard.

Hi there.

At the rate you make 100 mil isk while repping your SS in belts, I mine and manufacture 1 BS.

I jump it (using free isotopes mined via ice) to a low sec system that sees allot of action and markup the hull at Jita + 25%.

Then impoverished and desperate morons... I mean erm... hard working combatants like yourself come along and buy that hull... And the more you get blown up... the more isk I make.

So keep at it newbie. Your doing it right!

So you have to control your POS while you mine Tech?

Given the choice between a mouthy bunch of testosterone infused kids who can't type or a rock that says nothing, some of us choose the latter.

Given the choice between a mouthy bunch of testosterone infused kids who can't type or a rock that says nothing, some of us choose the latter.

Why you then choose to play a multiplayer game centered on "a mouthy bunch of testosterone infused kids" blowing stuff up (which is the ONLY reason "mining" exists or makes any money) is hard to understand.

No miners = far fewer minerals = higher prices on everything



We need miners. How else to you think that ship you are flying was built?

No miners = far fewer minerals = higher prices on everything

Why do people not play the way I think they should?!?!?

Another guy sits in a system for 4 hrs and gets 2 or 3 kill mails and some 'tears'. Sure, he might get that super pay day but most of the time, no. He just gets Iterons and T1 frigates.

Our freighter customers disagree.

And if anyone else abused mechanics like you guys it would have been fixed by now but we have been down that road enough already. I just don't care any more.

I've been playing Eve for about 2 and a half years now, time has flown by and it doesn't seem like that long ago that I would laugh at my mates for playing MMOs. That said, I'm here and still enjoying it (to a point!)

I have a few accounts and do what I need to play the game. I don't think it costs that much to get involved in PVP but the ethos of bigger=better is always there and of course you must have an X-type fitted Vindicator in amongst your PVP assets even if it's never undocked before.

However, to reach these goals we must either endure, running missions/plex/exploration/incursions and what not. Or we must buy plex. But there is the other side of Eve that enjoys Spreadsheets online. The miners/industrialists.

I have never understood why you would sit mining an asteroid belt solo making 10m per hour at the most (unless you're in 0.0 hidden belts) to fund your PVP activities. Just recently I did some belt ratting in a tier 3 BC to up my sec status, and actually made an average of 20m per hour, at which point I'm not even trying to get ISK, I'm just trying to repair SS.

I was curious to this mining thing. So made 3x buddy accounts to train for mining barges. I already had a guy that can fly an Orca, so I bought one of them along with a few covetors and now I'm 950m down. That's ok, they're assets and will be counted as such on a balance sheet.

I head to the highsec belts, knowing full well not to expect great fortune, however comforted in people telling me hi-sec ores are worth nearly as much as the null sec offerings.

So I start up a movie on my laptop (This is England) expecting to click a few buttons over the next 2 hours and end up with a bunch of rocks. Wrong. Mining requires micromanagement! The cycle time on my strippers being just under 2 minutes meant I had; at most, 2 minutes free at a time. But after a few cycles and some rocks getting eaten quicker it's to the point that you have to constantly be activating them, that's not even including jettisoning the ore and then tractoring it with the Orca.

So the movie finishes about 2 hours later and I check my items hanger. 39m worth of Ore. Holy ****. That is OREful.

Now I'm sure a professional rock eater must be able to increase the efficiency of what I was doing, however then you're at the point where you're constantly watching the screen, and you might aswell be doing something that rewards your concentration. A well fit battleship costs 1/2 that of an Orca, and in 0.0 you can do anomolies that will make you more than 60m per hour. I dread to think how many hulks you would need to generate that level of income from selling minerals.

Now that brings us to the next point, who sells minerals? Do the miners all build with the minerals? If you do, you might aswell go grab a battleship, do what I said and make 4x the income you would doing mining, use that isk to go and buy all the minerals you want.

Now if everyone did this, there would be no more minerals, people would pay more for them, and mining would appeal to more people.

And I guess this is my point, are we still in the point where individuals still have buckets of minerals from botting or do people just not realise what a waste of time it is ???

tldr; if you're mining you're doing it wrong.

Given the choice between a mouthy bunch of testosterone infused kids who can't type or a rock that says nothing, some of us choose the latter.

The funny thing is, lots of other people bump. It's also not abuse of game mechanics, so there you go.

True. I wouldn't go as far as Leadership skills for every miner pilot, but they probably do convert well into Drake/Tengu pilots. Gun boats a little less. Manufacturing and research would make sense, but not so much trade.

It isn't illegal to laugh at special needs kids either but doing so still makes you kind of a jerk. Just saying.

You do realize that you can modify sell orders remotely?

Since you're already starting industry&research jobs from belt why not add some trading.

You did say "max out every mining related skill". Since those are things I can do from belt they are "mining related skills".

Leadership skills are kinda required to fly Orca.

You do realize that you can modify sell orders remotely?

Since you're already starting industry&research jobs from belt why not add some trading.

You did say "max out every mining related skill". Since those are things I can do from belt they are "mining related skills".

Leadership skills are kinda required to fly Orca.

This, pretty much. Leadership skills for at least two pilots: one with the Orca for Wing Commander & Mining Foreman Mindlink, then one for the pilot acting as squad commander for Leadership and Siege Warfare Specialist & Siege Warfare Mindlink, then shield tank the mining squad. If there was a structure tanking mindlink, I'd use that instead.

Since you can't convert ore to ISK without trade skills, you need those. You make more ISK processing the ore first, so train up Industry, Refining, Refinery Efficiency, Metallurgy, specialist ore refining, Scrap Metal Processing (for the loot from rats you blow up while mining, and the loot you scoop from failed suicide gankers).

We're still mining related here, folks. It keeps going!

Then Trade skills because someone has to sell the product. And you'll want to improve standings to get lower taxes in those stations, so train those social skills and spam missions (courier missions since we're being lazy and not training combat skills).

So while you're mining you're also updating buy orders, sell orders, courier contracts (to get some other ******* to haul your billion units of tritanium from Colelie to Dodixie), research, manufacturing, etc. And then you realise that you've missed fifteen minutes of that movie because you were so busy doing that "AFK" activity which everyone thinks is for chumps.

In fact out of all the skill trees, the only ones you won't have some skills maxed out in will be Missiles and Gunnery.

90% of the items you buy are made by players. Now if they removed mining from the game how would you buy your ships and weapons ? Fly about killing rats till one of them dropped a hull ?

If this is the game you want then go play WoW.

When I first started playing EVE I warped to a belt in low sec trying to explore. I was just flying around the asteroids pretending I was the Millennium Falcon when a flashy red assault frigate landed on the belt. I tried to align to a gate to warp off but my stupid ship got bumped by an asteroid which gave the pirate enough time to kill me. To this day I have never forgiven the space rocks and mine them endlessly in the hopes that their genocide will erase my feeling of loss.

Mining mechanics are horribly bad and boring.

I know of no-one who does not aim at doing other stuff while mining. Watching movies, shows what ever.

Mining is an extreme grind of your life. Seriously consider if it's worth the (lack of) isk.

if no one mined you'd have no ships, you want this to be like halo or something where everytime you die you get a new ship with new guns health and ammo? just go play halo

As for your 2 hours = 39m. Fail

I mine that much every 40 minutes with 1 hulk and 1 covetor with orca boosts. And if you really want isk, get your refining skills up and your standings up with a corp and use its station to refine.

Also i watch plenty of movies and stuff when mining ore i dont have a problem with that. In fact mining is exactly what i do if i have a new movie or a tv series i want to watch.

I also suggest getting your leadership/mining boosting skills up, getting the foreman implant and also setting some in belt bm's. If you mine smart with skills you can have all your ships in the dead center and never have to move an inch all while being able to drop directly into the orca, no jetcans and tractors (that frees up a orca high for a siege boost module too!). If your really keen have 1 account fly a fast nippy ship use it to check each belt before hand and then warp your fleet to that character, saves trying to positing and scout in a clumsy barge

With a little planning, skill and thought mining is an easy, moderately rewarding task thats a heck of a lot better than 19.5m per hour

Be glad people are mining cause if they didnt, your 20m per hour belt ratting.. might buy you a ship in 6 months time

Hi there.

At the rate you make 100 mil isk while repping your SS in belts, I mine and manufacture 1 BS.

I jump it (using free isotopes mined via ice) to a low sec system that sees allot of action and markup the hull at Jita + 25%.

Then impoverished and desperate morons... I mean erm... hard working combatants like yourself come along and buy that hull... And the more you get blown up... the more isk I make.

So keep at it newbie. Your doing it right!

To answer your question OP, some people (I'm talking about me!) just arent intrested in Fights AT ALL. They just dont give me the kick. On the other hand, the awesome economy system EvE's having is just so epic that words cant describe it. Yet you can manage Hauling and Trading while mining (assuming you have alts).

In total, it costs me as much concentration as just playing 1 Account and do Mission Running - but the hell, THAT is whats really boring in my eyes. Don't get me wrong, have fun with it if youd enjoy it, but its just not everybodys deal.

Simple. Get Scrapmetal processing and reprocess mission loot. You get more minerals doing that anyway if you have a Noctis alt...

It would be hilarious if absolutely every miner actually organized and took a month off.

The tears would be delicious and hugely freeflowing, most assuredly.

yeah... except i need to earn my plex money some how...

Smoking a pipe full of cherry flavored tobacco, listening to NPR, and pretending your the captain of a mining operation in deep space is quite relaxing after you finished all your work for the day.

Ice is even worse at 8mil an hour.

OP; People will play the way they want to play. The only issue I have with some profession (ice mining) is when they become an activity where you profit for not actually playing the game.

But you can mine ice continuously with no interaction, and only have to empty your cargohold once in a while (used to be 20 minutes for my Macks to fill, but new Retrievers & Macks carry about 3 times more).

We also tend to attract small gangs of pvp pilots who want to kill us, thus adding to the overall ecosystem.

If I can mine, tend to my little empire until the barbarians come, and chat with my friends on TS, so much the better.

Oh my god.

13.3636... hours converts into 13 hours 21 minutes and 49 seconds plus something negligeable.

Stuff

I am going on strike! I want better pay for my minerals sell out.

Sadly this doesn't work in eve :(

You are either a troll or someone really bad in maths.

blah blah

tldr; i'm doing it wrong.

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Why do people mine? Seriously.

if you're mining you're doing it wrong.

actually...

13.363636 continuing is based on the decimal numbering system which is still going based on 100 minutes per hour.

Actually it's not. An hour doesn't magically change from 60 minutes to 100 minutes just because you toss a decimal in it.

13.5 hours is still 13 hours and 30 minutes.

So 13.36 repeating would just be 13 hours + (60 * .36363636...) minutes which is roughly 21 minutes 49 seconds.

90% of the items you buy are made by players. Now if they removed mining from the game how would you buy your ships and weapons ?

Socialist hippy type sees players making more isk with some risk of ganking mining roids. Same people who smokes dope and wonders why people get up early and go to work.

i have a dream

all miners would stop mining for a week,or stop selling ore

after a week prices would skyrocket so high,ppl would start asking why dont i mine

then you d hear the biggest collective laugh ever

Right, let's do he equivilant of stop selling fuel for a day in the real world.

All miners halt, for 3 days. Once the three days are over make a profit of 10x what you would usually make :) Then in pvp all that would win the fight would be who could build the ship faster :)

588*3
-------- = 13 hours and 37 minutes of mining a month. "13.363636 continued" for the curious minded folks.
(44*3)

I just want to point out that just because the answer is 13.363636 does not mean that it is 13 hours and some change. When you enter the above equation into a calculator, you will get that same answer everytime but it it not right because the unit of measurement needs to converted to a time format. I was wrong in using the terms "decimal numbering system" but my math is not incorrect.

100 minutes in an hour, that's just silly. If this is what you got from my previous post, then I can not help you and you need to have a long talk with your 5th grade math teacher.

The "13.36363636" is not in hours unit of measurement when you first get the answer from the above equation. It needs to be converted to hours before you can finish the rest. The 21 minutes and 49 seconds are correct for 0.36363636 if the 13.36363636 is in hours format.

13.363636 continuing is based on the decimal numbering system which is still going based on 100 minutes per hour.

I think this is the part of your original post that confused me - I read that to mean you were using some kind of funky 100 minutes per hour system - which, as you pointed out, is just silly. I'll admit, I didn't go back and read the original equation, which is what I should have done before trying to correct your math.

My apologies.

I don't even know why this got to 9 pages.

Why you then choose to play a multiplayer game centered on "a mouthy bunch of testosterone infused kids" blowing stuff up (which is the ONLY reason "mining" exists or makes any money) is hard to understand.

Why does everything have to be an absolute? Is nothing in your life an issue of enjoying something enough that you ignore the issues that come along with it?

because we like to spam GD with pointless ****, it's pretty much the reason for GD's existence.

because of lindsay lohan ...

You made the mistake of mining ore. mine Ice.

i was once told off for putting a logical and balanced discussion post in GD.

Ice pays like 1/2 as much as ore... only bots and the stupid mine ice

edit for clarity: I too sometimes be stupid and mine ice on the very rare occasion I can't really alt-tab much and insist on mining