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Mr Palmer Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.04 22:38:00 -
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Hello all, just thought i'd pop in to introduce myself and to ask a couple of questions pertaining to eve online.
ok am 51 irl and have spent most of my time play wow (world of warcraft) we recently moved and lost our internet for 1 month, now i have the net back wow has absolutly no appeal to me, so i thought i'd try eve.
my questions, like wow are there patches and expansions in this game? are expansions free.
as you can see i have made a character and am in my little start point about to begin the trial guide things, however i have no idea actually how to play this game and need some pointers on what to prioritise.
i like shooting stuff, i like making money, what race should i have choosen or does it not really matter at this stage.... any guides appreciated.
many thanks |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.04 23:15:00 -
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Yes patches and expansions. Yes they are all free (in the sense they dont cost extra on top of the subscription)
All races can do anything, the ONLY things are character's race pertain to are how you look and what your backstory is (if your a roleplayer) aside form a few starter skills you're just a capable as anyone else to do anything.
A few things about this game that is VERY different form WoW... -Skills train in real time and even when you arent logged on but they can also take a long amount of time so never let your skill queue run dry. Activities in game have no effect on training time, there is no grind for character progression, just grind for money or standings -When you die you lose everything, the wreck does have a chance of having some of your modules and cargo still in it but mostly likely the NPCs that killed you are still there or the players that killed you took it -It's all ONE big server, you never pick a realm or node or anything, everyone plays on Tranquility (except the Chinese but that's cause communistic gov't s a ***** about the internet) -Scamming is very much allowed, there are only a few things that involve RL money that you can't do scams with (like trading GTCs or characters) but otherwise everything else in EVE is scammable. It's up to you to recognize it and avoid it. -There is no single storyline to follow. The extent of the handholding in EVE ends at the Sisters of EVE epic arc, after that the universe is yours to do as you please. -Do not mention the word "guild" or "quest" or someone will stab you... (we call'em corporations(corps) and missions(mishes) here) -The market is almost all entirely player driven, for the most part you can expect just blueprint, skill book and a few other items to be sold by NPCs, EVERYTHING else is bought and sold by players one way or another. And a lot of that is manufactured by players too
The biggest things i can recommend are to read the tutorials VERY carefully as to not miss anything. If you need help don't be afraid to ask local, most EVE players are pretty helpful in that regard.
Make sure to get the latest version of EVEMon too
EVEMon stands for "EVE Monitor" and is a third party app that uses your API key to access the server and gain info about your character. It cant switch skills for you but it can notify you when skills finish or when you extra room in your skill queue when you aren't logged in. Additionally it has a full database of ships, modules, and certificates so that you can make easy skill plans. The benefit in the skill plan maker is that EVEMon can give you a total time to train the skills and recommend implants to use to make it go faster and stuff like that.
Above all, don't get discouraged by the long skill training times. Enjoy the game for what you can do already and the skills will fly by. ^^ Take the skill training times as an opportunity to learn new things about the game, meeting new people, and making ISK :P The Drake is a Lie |
Mr Palmer Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:08:00 -
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many thanks for the reply, is there a kind of guide book available of this game? when you say you loose everything is that literally everything? you wake up totally skint and the shirt ripped off your back? how do you know a good corporation from a bad one?
thank you. |
Xercodo
Xovoni Directorate
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Posted - 2011.10.05 00:23:00 -
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Nope no addons, client mods can get you banned
and well, everything as in everything on that ship, you can have other ships of course (you just cant use them at the same time....unless you have two accounts but that's something else..)
when most people say "I died :3" it means they just lost their ship. If you lose your pod (to be podded) then you get a new clone. But if your clone wasnt up to date to your skill points then you might lose a faction of that SP on a skill.
The best overall resources you can find are http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Main_Page http://www.isktheguide.com/ and of course other players like me =P The Drake is a Lie |
Asana Keikira
New Dawn Initiative
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Posted - 2011.10.05 02:15:00 -
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Another good site for game information is EVE University's Wiki - http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page There are quite a few guides there for the reading, as well as videos that cover a number of different activities in game. And, you don't have to be a corporation member to access them.
It's also a fairly decent corporation to join to get a foothold in what EVE is all about. Their entry requirements are a bit tough, but it's worth the effort to suffer through it to get some good information and experience. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.05 03:02:00 -
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An excellent place to start is the New Player Experience collection of EVElopedia articles.
I'm one of the many active maintainers of the EVElopedia, feel free to EVE-mail me in game if you have any questions about EVElopedia content. I'll be watching this thread too, so it would be awesome if you could take the time to narrate your experiences during the first couple of weeks of playing GÇö doing this will help more experienced pilots provide meaningful advice, it will help the EVElopedia maintainers update old entries, add missing ones, and link the content together more usefully.
As for "lose everything": when your ship gets blown up you are ejected in your capsule, the ship is replaced with a wreck, and that wreck will usually contain some of the modules that you had fitted to your ship. Your capsule can be blown up too, so make sure you run away as quickly as possible. To draw an analogy to WoW, your corpse is on the ground and lootable, and your ghost spawns above your corpse, but your ghost can be killed too. When your ghost gets killed (which we call "being podded"), you'll spawn back at the "graveyard" which is actually your medical clone. It's a bad analogy, but hopefully it will help you understand the death mechanics in this game.
Sadly enough, you don't lose your shirt when you get podded. Now that might seem a little harsh, but EVE is a cold, harsh world of piracy and capitalism. Everything in the game is about creating and destroying, but then CCP introduced the Noble Exchange which gives us monocles and fancy shirts to wear: these items are "indestructible", so if you're wearing a cool shirt when you get podded, you'll wake up in your medical clone wearing that cool shirt. Many of us who are used to the idea of dealing with loss are very sad that CCP has taken this route, but it's their game and their choice, and my opinions on the matter aren't really going to help you learn to play the game better.
How do you know a good corporation from a bad one? Well, you trust them enough to give them a chance. Hang with them a while, and you'll find that either you get along with them really well, or it's time to find a new corp. Some corps will try to gain your trust, then get you to invest time and money in their activities, then turf you out like yesterdays dinner. The only way to find out for sure whether a corp is worth being with is to spend time with them.
We look forward to seeing you in-game!
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.05 07:15:00 -
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Mr Palmer Sasen wrote:many thanks for the reply, is there a kind of guide book available of this game? when you say you loose everything is that literally everything? you wake up totally skint and the shirt ripped off your back? how do you know a good corporation from a bad one? i used to love playing x3 reunion this reminds me very much of that. does the game have addons as such. thank you.
Hello Mr Palmer Sasen, and welcome to EVE Online!
The most comprehensive guide to EVE Online is the ISK Guide (it has already been linked by Xercodo earlier, but it's nonetheless worth mentioning again )
As for finding a good corporation, you might want to consider EVE University -- it is the largest educational organization in EVE which provides guidance to the new players, runs various classes, makes video tutorials, etc.
Generally speaking, there is a good discussion thread in this forum section focusing on player corporations and why they matter for the new pilots. Hope you find it useful as well.
Fly safe!
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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J'Poll
Borealis Mining Concern IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2011.10.05 10:50:00 -
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Like mentioned above, the ISK guide is one of several helpfull tools to get you going in EVE.
On seperating a good Corp from a bad Corp:
This is a hard part. As good and bad are defined in different ways by each pilot. But if you make a wrong decision and it turns out that Corp 'A' isn't actually what you are searching for you can just leave them and search for another / better corp.
My advice is to talk to the recruiter / director / CEO of the corp (if possible with voice comms, spoken interview give a way better view of eachother then text based interviews). Also ask the Rec / Dir / CEO if the corp has a pubic channel, in there you usually find some other members of the corp and sometimes some other pilots who left the corp on good terms (which is a good sign). Best is to not jump into a corp on minute notice, take your time to research a corp, get to know some people in it and most of all, don't look at the first corp you encounter, there are a lot (thousands) of corps in EVE.
Another thing, if a corp asks you to pay some entry fee, it's usually a scam and in no circumstances pay it. Just turn them down nicely and move on to search for another corp.
I myself found my current corp by talking to them in the local chat channel. Another way is to join the recruitment channel. It is filled with recruiters spamming their corp advert (yes, I'm sometimes guilty on that too). But the guys you should look for are recruiters that only post like every 5 - 15 minutes or the guys that have a normal conversation between the spamming.
Those guys in general are the really nice pilots, and in general the reactions / attitude of a recruiter reflects the entire corp. If you find a recruiter that is a bully, expect the entire corp to be some hardcore EVE players that don't tollerate mistakes etc on the other hand if the recruiter has a sense of humour and is laid back, usually the same count for the corp (exceptions are always in a corp though).
Also, best way to find a corp that suits you is to first do the tutorial and the career agents, those will get you on the way with what you can do in EVE. After you find out what you like, search for a corp that does the same thing. Also there are some corps that have a requirements (usually a minimum of Skillpoints (SP), ships you should be able to fly). If you don't qualify for it but they seem the right corp, hang around in their public channel (if they have one, most respectable corps do) until you can apply.
If you ever have any questions about corps, corp recruiting etc, don't hesitate to EVE-mail me. I'm currently a director in my corp and also an alliance recruiter, so I know the tricks of the trade most people use.
Kind regards, fly safe and enjoy EVE Online.
J'Poll
TL-DR: Seperating a good corp from a bad corp comes with knowledge about corps, don't be afraid to make a wrong decision you can always leave a corp to move to another one. There aren't many pilots where their first corp was their final one. |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.05 11:08:00 -
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J'Poll wrote:TL-DR: Seperating a good corp from a bad corp comes with knowledge about corps, don't be afraid to make a wrong decision you can always leave a corp to move to another one. There aren't many pilots where their first corp was their final one.
The only bad decision is to make no decision at all |
J'Poll
Borealis Mining Concern IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2011.10.05 11:19:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:J'Poll wrote:TL-DR: Seperating a good corp from a bad corp comes with knowledge about corps, don't be afraid to make a wrong decision you can always leave a corp to move to another one. There aren't many pilots where their first corp was their final one. The only bad decision is to make no decision at all
Totally agree, knowledge in EVE usually comes with eighter a helping hand from vets or due to trial and error.
In my first ever player corp (turned out not my kind of corp) I didn't know what a wardec ment and undocked like 10 times from a camped station until the war targets told me about the game mechanics.
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Mr Palmer Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.05 11:51:00 -
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many thanks for all the replies, a concern i do have is one that happens in wow, and that is been left behind and not able to progress because you have naff gear etc, i belive i was just about at this stage in wow, also the boredom was setting in of repetative questing and grinding.
In real life i do shift work 4 x 12hr days followed by 4 days off followed by 4 x 12hr nights and so on during my working shifts i very rarely play anything, when am off work i like to play, would my limited time to play this game have a negative effect on my progression. ie play today then not play for 4 days am i going to be lost when i next log on?
many thanks
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J'Poll
Borealis Mining Concern IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2011.10.05 12:08:00 -
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Mr Palmer Sasen wrote:many thanks for all the replies, a concern i do have is one that happens in wow, and that is been left behind and not able to progress because you have naff gear etc, i belive i was just about at this stage in wow, also the boredom was setting in of repetative questing and grinding.
In real life i do shift work 4 x 12hr days followed by 4 days off followed by 4 x 12hr nights and so on during my working shifts i very rarely play anything, when am off work i like to play, would my limited time to play this game have a negative effect on my progression. ie play today then not play for 4 days am i going to be lost when i next log on?
many thanks
Just make sure your skillqueue doesn't run dry. Skill training is the way you advance in EVE (there is no such thing as leveling up, every character is the same 'level', the only thing that makes characters different is how and what skills they have trained. Every item / ship in EVE has required skills to operate it.
Setting skills if needed can be done in about 5 min if you don't have regular play times. I'm currently a college student with also a parttime job so sometimes have got almost no available game time too. I just log in daily to at least read my mails and check my skillqueue.
Best to have are one of the 3rd party programs like EVEMON or EVEHQ, in there you can make a skillplan on which skill to train next. I usually look up what my next skill is and then implant it in EVE on the skillqueue. After that I will see if I have time to play around or if I have to log off again.
On gear (in EVE: ships and modules) in the beginning it will look like you are stuck to your little frigate/destroyer/cruiser. This is mainly as you need to skill up required skills + their support skills (check recommened certificates on ship info) and need ISK to pay for that nice and shiny new ship.
Don't be surpriced if from time to time EVE can get a bit boring due to being 'stuck' in the same position for some time. Most (if not all) pilots have had that experience. I personally (although being a miner) find mining from time to time very boring, same counts with missioning, they get boring if you run them a lot and do that on daily basis.
On being left behind, although that EVE universe is 1 really (really really) big place most corporations do stick around one spot unless you are in a corp that moves to null-sec (Kind of like the old Wild West, completely lawless space, anything goes) or is already in null-sec and has to move to new staging grounds. And even then, if you have a good friendly corp, they will help you catch up. My corp had to move 2 times, if someone relogged on after long away from EVE period, we do get a fleet together to collect them and guide them back to our new spot.
On being lost after couple of days, not really likely, you will wake up and just can ask in chat what has been going on the last days (or maybe it's in your ingame mailbox). For skills, like I said keep them running, can only take 5 min to set next skills in the skillqueue. And there are even skills, especially the more advance skills that can take a lot of time to skill, I just finished a skill that took about 1 month to train.
EDIT: found some typos, corrected them for more easy reading :P |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.05 12:52:00 -
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Oh! Opportunity for shameless self-promotion!
Mr Palmer Sasen, please go read my Cloaking Device speech :)
Make sure to comment on the thread if it made any sense to you at all |
Asana Keikira
New Dawn Initiative
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Posted - 2011.10.05 21:32:00 -
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Mr Palmer Sasen wrote:
In real life i do shift work 4 x 12hr days followed by 4 days off followed by 4 x 12hr nights and so on during my working shifts i very rarely play anything, when am off work i like to play, would my limited time to play this game have a negative effect on my progression. ie play today then not play for 4 days am i going to be lost when i next log on?
many thanks
I do shift work as well, and I'll second what's been said about keeping the skill queue filled up at all times. It's, as stated, fairly simple to log in for a few moments, load up some additional skills to be trained, and log out. Get EVEMon or EVEHq, create a plan, and follow it. If you think you're going to be away from the game completely for a couple days or more, load in a long skill (if you have something you can train to 5, use that.) If you need to preempt that skill to train another, you don't lose the time you've already trained when switching.
As long as you play a bit when you do have a chance, you should be able to keep up with your personal skill at playing quite a bit. EVE is many other MMO's in that regard - The gameplay doesn't change radically most of the time, and when it does, take heart in the fact that everyone else is having to learn as well. Myself, I played a few years ago for a couple months and just came back recently. I still knew the basics, just had to adapt to the new things, which running through the tutorials Aura and the other Career Agents provide helped get me to speed.
As for your age, I'm nearly 50 myself (just a few months away from it). I was rather fortunate to find a corporation of people that are around the same age and have the same general mind-set. We might move a little slower getting to the pod, but once we're in-ship, you can't really tell we're any different. :) |
Mr Palmer Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.06 00:34:00 -
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Asana Keikira wrote:Mr Palmer Sasen wrote:
In real life i do shift work 4 x 12hr days followed by 4 days off followed by 4 x 12hr nights and so on during my working shifts i very rarely play anything, when am off work i like to play, would my limited time to play this game have a negative effect on my progression. ie play today then not play for 4 days am i going to be lost when i next log on?
many thanks
I do shift work as well, and I'll second what's been said about keeping the skill queue filled up at all times. It's, as stated, fairly simple to log in for a few moments, load up some additional skills to be trained, and log out. Get EVEMon or EVEHq, create a plan, and follow it. If you think you're going to be away from the game completely for a couple days or more, load in a long skill (if you have something you can train to 5, use that.) If you need to preempt that skill to train another, you don't lose the time you've already trained when switching. As long as you play a bit when you do have a chance, you should be able to keep up with your personal skill at playing quite a bit. EVE is many other MMO's in that regard - The gameplay doesn't change radically most of the time, and when it does, take heart in the fact that everyone else is having to learn as well. Myself, I played a few years ago for a couple months and just came back recently. I still knew the basics, just had to adapt to the new things, which running through the tutorials Aura and the other Career Agents provide helped get me to speed. As for your age, I'm nearly 50 myself (just a few months away from it). I was rather fortunate to find a corporation of people that are around the same age and have the same general mind-set. We might move a little slower getting to the pod, but once we're in-ship, you can't really tell we're any different. :)
many thanks for your reply, maybe i could join your oldmans corp :) god knows how but i seem to have totally buggered up my tutorials strayed somewhere i should not of and got killed, is the completion of the tutorials an absolute must, at the moment am just wingin it i have no idea what i am doing lol, once am back at work i will print off the isk guide for myself to refer too easily. the game is quite daunting for noobs like myself where we have not had to think too hard :) |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.06 00:45:00 -
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Click on Aura in the neocom (or press F12), and select "Career agents". That will give you a list of agents who will offer you the tutorial series over again. Alternately, you should have the name of the last agent you were working for in your Journal - you can set an autopilot path back to that location to get you back to the tutorials you were doing.
Have fun, and fly it like you stole it :)
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Mr Palmer Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.06 01:03:00 -
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My problem appears to be the destroying the oil depot thing and then shooting the 2 pirate ships, i no longer have shields or a weapon on my ship and therefore cannot complete this bit.........please help me someone.......
once again many thanks |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.06 02:13:00 -
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What's the name of that mission?
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Asana Keikira
New Dawn Initiative
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Posted - 2011.10.06 04:23:00 -
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Mr Palmer Sasen wrote:
many thanks for your reply, maybe i could join your oldmans corp :) god knows how but i seem to have totally buggered up my tutorials strayed somewhere i should not of and got killed, is the completion of the tutorials an absolute must, at the moment am just wingin it i have no idea what i am doing lol, once am back at work i will print off the isk guide for myself to refer too easily. the game is quite daunting for noobs like myself where we have not had to think too hard :)
Be prepared to wait a while for that ISK Guide to print....it's somewhere around 400 pages. :D
As for the Corp, you can find it in the Corporation Finder. We're small, but dedicated to each other. Feel free to chat with our CEO. I'd recommend also joining our public channel, but I'm getting ready to take off for work and the actual name of it has slipped my mind at the moment. I'll also pass along your name. |
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.06 04:27:00 -
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Mr Palmer Sasen wrote: many thanks for your reply, maybe i could join your oldmans corp :) god knows how but i seem to have totally buggered up my tutorials strayed somewhere i should not of and got killed, is the completion of the tutorials an absolute must, at the moment am just wingin it i have no idea what i am doing lol, once am back at work i will print off the isk guide for myself to refer too easily. the game is quite daunting for noobs like myself where we have not had to think too hard :)
It's not absolutely necessary, of course, but it might help you get a better understanding of some game concepts. Of course, you can just read the guide if you prefer. (recently I went and completed all tutorials on my new player character just for fun).
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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malaire
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Posted - 2011.10.06 08:25:00 -
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CCP Spitfire wrote:Mr Palmer Sasen wrote: many thanks for your reply, maybe i could join your oldmans corp :) god knows how but i seem to have totally buggered up my tutorials strayed somewhere i should not of and got killed, is the completion of the tutorials an absolute must, at the moment am just wingin it i have no idea what i am doing lol, once am back at work i will print off the isk guide for myself to refer too easily. the game is quite daunting for noobs like myself where we have not had to think too hard :)
It's not absolutely necessary, of course, but it might help you get a better understanding of some game concepts. Of course, you can just read the guide if you prefer. (recently I went and completed all tutorials on my new player character just for fun). Also, if you prefer videos http://www.youtube.com/user/SeamusDonohueEVE has playlist "How to Survive EVE Online" which shows all AURA and Career Agent tutorials. Over 7 hours long and I actually watched it all. There is also other playlist for other subjects. Carebear -á* -áTrader -á* -áPerfect Music-á-á* -áNever Scamming -á* -áNever Pirating |
Mr Palmer Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:47:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:What's the name of that mission?
its the arming your ship (caldari) when i open my item folder aura says she is sending me 2 modules to equip in my ship ie weapon and shields but these got destroyed in my first ship :( so i have a new ship but am not able to do this tutorial mission in it :( |
malaire
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:58:00 -
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Mr Palmer Sasen wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:What's the name of that mission?
its the arming your ship (caldari) when i open my item folder aura says she is sending me 2 modules to equip in my ship ie weapon and shields but these got destroyed in my first ship :( so i have a new ship but am not able to do this tutorial mission in it :( Tutorials only gives items once, so if you lose them you need to buy new items from market if they are needed. Carebear -á* -áTrader -á* -áPerfect Music-á-á* -áNever Scamming -á* -áNever Pirating |
Mr Palmer Sasen
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.06 18:50:00 -
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malaire wrote:Mr Palmer Sasen wrote:Mara Rinn wrote:What's the name of that mission?
its the arming your ship (caldari) when i open my item folder aura says she is sending me 2 modules to equip in my ship ie weapon and shields but these got destroyed in my first ship :( so i have a new ship but am not able to do this tutorial mission in it :( Tutorials only gives items once, so if you lose them you need to buy new items from market if they are needed.
ah right that explains that then....many thanks |
Mr Palmer Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 00:18:00 -
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Well i broke Mr palmer Sasen, so this is my new main character i am getting to grips with the game now onto the advanced tutorials, ie industry stuff, i have sold some stuff in the market. At the moment i am enjoying the challenge of the game and the fact i have to think |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
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Posted - 2011.10.07 00:30:00 -
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"Broke" Palmer Sasen? What did you do? |
Mr Palmer Sotken
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.07 00:47:00 -
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i got killed ended up with no weapons or shields so was not able to complete a particular tutorial mission, as the items were not resupplied, hes on delete now but i could create him again another day |
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Industrial Complex Cosmic Consortium
127
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Posted - 2011.10.07 00:56:00 -
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Were you unable to buy replacement items from the market? Stuff from the market is generally more powerful than the "civilian" items handed to you through the tutorial series. You will need to train the appropriate skills though.
The important thing is you're having fun :) |
Sister Ignatia
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.10.07 01:04:00 -
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Driven to suicide, so quickly too.
Eve will test your meddle, you will have opportunities impossible in real life and face problems you have not conceived of and dig into inner resources you only suspected you had. Gather your wits and courage youngster (56 here). Success is often a collection of mistakes.
Quote:GÇ£Most great people have attained their greatest success just one step beyond their greatest failure.GÇ¥ |
Baneken
The New Knighthood Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.10.07 11:21:00 -
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AFAIK you drop that mission and do it over and over as tutorial have no standing penalties fro quitting them. Agent should give you new stuff each time you take that tutorial, you also receive a new ship n00b ship each time you visit a station with your pod (assuming you don't have a ship waiting for you at the station).
as for skills they do not disappear or anything they keep training while you're off line so you it's recommended to have a queue full of long skills if cannot login that often (I have 25days my sefl atm.) If you queue runs dry you have to log in to put new skills hence EVEmon warning for putting more skills when queue runs under 24h of skills in training.
Now many people thing that you cannot complete with vets because they have XX amount of skills which is wrong. Your skills can affect only one ship at a time so having all those SP simply means that they are likely have more skills at V then you do, nothing else and by having most skills IV means you only lose a few percent in efficiency then they do.
ofc. some tech II modules can only be used with lvl V skills but in most cases meta 4 is equal or better (and more expensive) then T2. |
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