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Alexandar Pavlovic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:16:00 -
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I tought that new explosions would be one of visually more prominent things in upcoming expansion. But so far I didn't saw any mentioning by CCP officials about this. Yes, there is some mentioning in Test Server Feedback part of forum but so far new explosion effects seem to be unimpressive and pale, at least not what is expected from them to be.
I am wondering if new explosions would be a part of 4th december expansion or they would be introduced in som of later post Retribution patches (Retribution 1.1, 1.2 ...).
Don't get me wrong, lot of cool features are coming with Retribution but New explosions are something I hoped for from the day they are anounced in FanFest 2012 (seems that everything else mentioned there found way to EVE - launchers, new missile effects, V3, ships redesign...).
Just couple of days before Retribution it seems to me that: - new explosions would not be included in Retribution or - that are not so good to even mention anything about them or, as I hope - would be spectacular and are keept for Retibution trailer and final release on december 4th to be shown
Art Team respond would be nice but I think that maybe it's to late for that considering the things they have to do before realising Retribution.
So, does anyone knows whats going to be?
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:17:00 -
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Unless the new ship explosions cause AOE damage, im uninterested. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Hallvardr
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.29 23:20:00 -
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^ what he said ! +1 |
Alexandar Pavlovic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:26:00 -
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I was talking just about visual aspect that in my opinion should be equally important as basic gameplay.
I don't understand why so much people are against any kind of visual improvements in EVE, or at the bast not interested in it? |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
527
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:32:00 -
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Does it really take a devblog to say "New Explosions in Retribution"?
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2012.11.30 00:37:00 -
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I would imagine it would be wrapped in a blog that also covers other graphical improvements, like the firing animations of the turrets. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.30 01:17:00 -
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I rather like the new explosions. If you want to see them, it's rather easy to get on the test server. That, or you could wait until the 4th. |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
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Posted - 2012.11.30 01:19:00 -
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The new explosions are rather sudden and meh. That should be NPCs. Players deaths should be slow and spectacular. |
Hallvardr
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.11.30 01:43:00 -
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Don't get me wrong ... I liked the old explosions and the new ones I think are a bit more realistic.
But what really does a 15,000 ton, matter/antimatter powered (?), and armed hull explosion look like when it detonates ? In space? IDK. I do know that I shouldn't hear it. (wait, eve has sound - wth)
But I also believe that when something that big goes BOOM that something w/i a short range (<10k) should feel the effects of it. The closer you are ... the more you feel it. (take damage) |
Romvex
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Posted - 2012.11.30 02:58:00 -
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Well i do hope that an exploding frigate doesn't make the same sound of a can being jetted anymore. Post with your main |
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Mica Swanhaven
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.11.30 07:22:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Unless the new ship explosions cause AOE damage, im uninterested. I've been waiting for this for ages. Including for I could run my dying disco phoon into a group of tacklers on an allies ship and hit the self dustruct button to take a few of them, and drones off of him. |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.11.30 07:24:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:The new explosions are rather sudden and meh. That should be NPCs. Players deaths should be slow and spectacular. What I don't get is if a rifter is the size of a 747... why don't the new effects render like.... 2 explosions at the front end engines, then 2-3 more moving up the ship and THEN a big explosion? http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Kiteo Hatto
Equanimity Order
306
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Posted - 2012.11.30 10:11:00 -
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MotherMoon wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:The new explosions are rather sudden and meh. That should be NPCs. Players deaths should be slow and spectacular. What I don't get is if a rifter is the size of a 747... why don't the new effects render like.... 2 explosions at the front end engines, then 2-3 more moving up the ship and THEN a big explosion?
Oh that would be sick! EXPLOSIONS "That's okay it annoys me when people pile on new definitions to the word sandbox every time CCP does something they don't like." - Alara IonStorm GD is where 60% of threads make you dumber and 10% which provide you with entertainment, the remaining 30% is a mix of both. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
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Posted - 2012.11.30 10:34:00 -
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They are meh and sudden, because they are there to remind you, that you are not a hero, you are defeated and not worth mentioning in history of EVE.
Just small "puff" in the whole universe. Inside mining barge, true story |
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CCP Paradox
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Posted - 2012.11.30 11:13:00 -
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New explosions are in for Retribution. In addition to the visual overhaul, they have had significant performance tweaks. Now when an entire fleet burns and dies, it should cause less of a performance hit for your client, while still looking amazingly awesome. Also, you should destroy a Titan. Your eyes may bleed from the prettiness. CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Super Friends @CCP_Paradox |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2012.11.30 11:22:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Also, you should destroy a Titan. Your eyes may bleed from the prettiness.
I have seen this and can confirm that my eyes started bleeding. We went to the doctor and he told me it was from "all the prettiness". When I told my girlfriend this, she wondered why my eyes never bleed when I see her and then left me.
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Harland White
Circle of Fortune
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Posted - 2012.11.30 12:16:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:New explosions are in for Retribution. In addition to the visual overhaul, they have had significant performance tweaks. Now when an entire fleet burns and dies, it should cause less of a performance hit for your client, while still looking amazingly awesome. Also, you should destroy a Titan. Your eyes may bleed from the prettiness.
But you're not addressing the massive amount of players who are trying every way imaginable to tell CCP that these new explosions are pathetic...at least for everything from frigates to battleships. |
Gillia Winddancer
Shiny Noble Crown Services
130
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Posted - 2012.11.30 12:25:00 -
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Does everything necessarily have to explode?
It'd be nifty to see wrecks that haven't gone "kaboom".
Throw in 2-3 wreck types per ship over a period of time and see the spectacular factor rise by at least 10. |
Mai Khumm
Homeworld Republic Intrepid Crossing
315
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Posted - 2012.11.30 12:34:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Unless the new ship explosions cause AOE damage, im uninterested. THIS...! Since EVE will be pay to win very soon. --> 65 Mil SP subcap pilot/45 Mil SP Caldari-Indy Cap pilot looking for Powerbloc Coalition... |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
546
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Posted - 2012.11.30 12:41:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:Also, you should destroy a Titan. Your eyes may bleed from the prettiness. I have seen this and can confirm that my eyes started bleeding. We went to the doctor and he told me it was from "all the prettiness". When I told my girlfriend this, she wondered why my eyes never bleed when I see her and then left me.
I'm going to call your bluff on this one.
There was no girlfriend, you're married to spaceships. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
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Reicine Ceer
Phoenix of the Black Sun Wrong Hole.
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Posted - 2012.11.30 12:59:00 -
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It'd be nice if low-mass ships got "pushed" by explosions. AoE would be sweet (perhaps just a single Smartbomb-damage? Shipsize=Smartbomb WHEN ship=explodey) but a FUNC_PUSH based on mass of exploding ships would give players something else to think about.
On topic; yey pretties! I <3 CCP's art dept. |
Alexandar Pavlovic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.30 14:37:00 -
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If this is finall look of new explosions effect they look very nice
EVE Online Retribution - by Nallekatt on Buckingham test server |
Nyla Skin
Maximum fun chamber
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Posted - 2012.11.30 14:43:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Unless the new ship explosions cause AOE damage, im uninterested.
This Could be a most interesting way to counteract blobs! |
Alexandar Pavlovic
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.11.30 14:51:00 -
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Nyla Skin wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Unless the new ship explosions cause AOE damage, im uninterested. This Could be a most interesting way to counteract blobs!
And could also be the end of short range weapons and drone fighting. Everyone will go for sniping setups and heavy armored tacklers therefore only group fighting - PvP and PvE. |
marVLs
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Posted - 2012.11.30 14:57:00 -
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Alexandar Pavlovic wrote:
Nice video but explosions looks soooo lame... You can see it especially when BS explode. (BTW i've been on test server and see it myself)
CCP i beg You (and from what i see almost everyone thinks the same) don't give us such terrible expl, they are worse than old Flash is too small and short, there's no BOOOOM!!! in them, too small amount of particle and no pre-mini explosions.
Seriously it's the worst and only bad addon in Retri, why You don't listen players? |
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
545
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Posted - 2012.11.30 15:09:00 -
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marVLs wrote:[quote=Alexandar Pavlovic] why You don't listen players?
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Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
528
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Posted - 2012.11.30 15:13:00 -
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Harland White wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:New explosions are in for Retribution. In addition to the visual overhaul, they have had significant performance tweaks. Now when an entire fleet burns and dies, it should cause less of a performance hit for your client, while still looking amazingly awesome. Also, you should destroy a Titan. Your eyes may bleed from the prettiness. But you're not addressing the massive amount of players who are trying every way imaginable to tell CCP that these new explosions are pathetic...at least for everything from frigates to battleships. I don't want to speak for a dev, but I took from what he wrote that the new explosions aren't about being epic eye candy, but about not blowing up computers at the same time.
Which is what I thought the point of the explosion overhaul was for, improving performance when things explode; especially when a lot of things explode.
Doesn't leave much room for epic explotions with a crap ton of particle effectts and such. I'd rather a meh explosion that still looks better then the current one and doesn't fry my motherboard, then one that would make me weep at it's beauty and then cry because I have to buy a new PC. |
Ager Agemo
Saturn Reaper
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Posted - 2012.11.30 16:11:00 -
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i can be on a fleet battle of 1500 ppl and still run smoothly *-* i want pretty explosions like those of homeworld 2! seeing titans disintegrate slowly with lots of small explosions and particles and then a large blast with AOE damage! |
MotherMoon
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
1174
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Posted - 2012.11.30 16:28:00 -
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Kiteo Hatto wrote:MotherMoon wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:The new explosions are rather sudden and meh. That should be NPCs. Players deaths should be slow and spectacular. What I don't get is if a rifter is the size of a 747... why don't the new effects render like.... 2 explosions at the front end engines, then 2-3 more moving up the ship and THEN a big explosion? Oh that would be sick! EXPLOSIONS
If I was working at CCP I would just use a few scaled down explosions on different parts of the ships before the big explosion. And if having marked points like engines/weapons blowing up 1st, it could also just be random. And then on bigger ships I would keep the scale and increase the number of explsions.
Frigates 3-4 little explosions before big one.
Battleships 6-7 explosions before big one
Also right before the big explosion I would have the game audio cut down to 10% but keep idle sounds at 100% for 1.25 seconds, with fast cut off, and then a ramp back up. You know the kind I'm talking about right? I'm not being orginal or anything, it's just a nice touch they add to movies with nukes go off. Or a bomb goes off really close, and the shockwave hits before the sound does. fun stuff.
Also... this is how CCP does it in their trailers..... http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg |
Mica Swanhaven
Republic University Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2012.11.30 16:32:00 -
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There should be mini explosions and they should help show of the scale of ships. A frigate is going to break apart faster than a battleship.
Plus this would be a great workaround compared to modeling the ships breaking apart to accomplish the same scale thing. People will buy a big explosion leaving nothing but a wreck of metal.
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