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Cat Troll
Systems Federation Coalition of Galactic Unity
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:05:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote: Is this soft trolling?
DUST514 will be a legitimate part of Eve if it goes off well. It will impact the markets, sov, warfare and perhaps most importantly the meta game. It will generate tears. If we are very very lucky it will push New Eden even closer to being a truly dynamic living world where conflict and team work can erupt in every corner of space. That being obvious, why should they not be representated on the CSM whose job is to offer advice to CCP about how to improve the game? They will be able to complete the conversational circuit between POD pilots and DUST Mercs (is that what they are called?), thus offering CCP a more robust source of feedback.
QFT
Lolwut: "Yes, you kids don't know how lucky you have it. These days noobs get given free tackle ships for PvP but back in the old days the only tackle ships we were given were our pods. We had to use them to bump their rookie ships out of alignment to stop them warping off." |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
464
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:07:00 -
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Those DUST 514 ZEALOTS are controlling the CSM |
Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
143
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:08:00 -
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Orbital bombardment of Dust514 voting booths.
I just assume they would be as bad as the game. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1291
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:17:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:I give the Eve-Dust514 connection about 4 months before pubbies are shooting a statue in jita again. Then CCP will sever the links and Dust will become another crappy Planetside competitor.
I recently got the play Planetside & my opinion is Planetside is the game Dust should have been. It's the sister game that EVE deserves.
On topic: The CSM is for the EVE universe. Dust will be a part of the universe, so it's really a non-issue.
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |
Nomistrav
Maverick Conflict Solutions
94
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:42:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:I give the Eve-Dust514 connection about 4 months before pubbies are shooting a statue in jita again. Then CCP will sever the links and Dust will become another crappy Planetside competitor. I recently got the play Planetside & my opinion is Planetside is the game Dust should have been. It's the sister game that EVE deserves. On topic: The CSM is for the EVE universe. Dust will be a part of the universe, so it's really a non-issue.
Agree with this -so hard-.
When I found out that Dust 514 had player limits, standardized matchmaking and "maps" I was insanely disappointed. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
924
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:52:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:I mean I'd be delighted to hear your theory about how the reps from EVE University and Issler Daize who represents high-sec miners only care about buffing 0.0, or Two Step who lives in W-space.
Go on please do tell. Thats a long list out of 13 people.
Oh and Two step is one of the co-authors of kill hi-sec, err sorry I mean that opinion peace.
I liked the Unanimous support of the CSM on this one, when pushed Seleene pretty much said that the others had time to ***** and didn't, not that they actively supported this rubbish. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Mirima Thurander
Estrada Dynamics - Exploration and Acquisition
432
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:55:00 -
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I can see the fist slamming the desk and the spit hitting the screen as the csm yells at there screen NO they can't have one of are free CCP party tickets!!!. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Mirima Thurander
Estrada Dynamics - Exploration and Acquisition
433
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Posted - 2012.12.02 02:56:00 -
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I can see the fist slamming the desk and the spit hitting the screen as the csm yells at there screen NO they can't have one of are free CCP party tickets!!!. A Dark time comes. A time of terror comes. My time. If it offends you. Stop me. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
5305
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Posted - 2012.12.02 08:49:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:Malcanis wrote:I mean I'd be delighted to hear your theory about how the reps from EVE University and Issler Daize who represents high-sec miners only care about buffing 0.0, or Two Step who lives in W-space.
Go on please do tell. Thats a long list out of 13 people. Oh and Two step is one of the co-authors of kill hi-sec, err sorry I mean that opinion peace. I liked the Unanimous support of the CSM on this one, when pushed Seleene pretty much said that the others had time to reply and didn't, not that they actively supported this rubbish.
Is this going to be the part where you claim again that because CCP removed the drone bay from Titan this year, that 0.0 has had enough dev attention to last it while empire gets another round of improvements? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
925
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Posted - 2012.12.02 09:18:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Frying Doom wrote:Malcanis wrote:I mean I'd be delighted to hear your theory about how the reps from EVE University and Issler Daize who represents high-sec miners only care about buffing 0.0, or Two Step who lives in W-space.
Go on please do tell. Thats a long list out of 13 people. Oh and Two step is one of the co-authors of kill hi-sec, err sorry I mean that opinion peace. I liked the Unanimous support of the CSM on this one, when pushed Seleene pretty much said that the others had time to reply and didn't, not that they actively supported this rubbish. Is this going to be the part where you claim again that because CCP removed the drone bay from Titan this year, that 0.0 has had enough dev attention to last it while empire gets another round of improvements? Oh so you are ignoring the resources used in every other patch for the last 3 years except inferno.
5 patches to fix Null and it is still crap, there are areas of the game that effect more people that need fixing and updating.
I think work in the last 5 of 6 patches is enough for the moment don't you? Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
2091
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Posted - 2012.12.02 14:32:00 -
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Until DUST becomes something more than closed-beta vaporware (which has been in development for the better part of 4-5 years) and CCP starts talking to the community about their plans for it beyond some grey area, "The two games will connect!" stuff, I really don't see a point to a "DUST Player" running for CSM. I think it would be interesting to see someone whose primary focus was on a console only game running for the council of a PC only game though. Sure, give it a shot.
TLDR - There are enough DUST bunnies on the CSM (or in contact with the CSM) already, or at least there were until Planetside 2 came out. v0v CSM 7 Chairman My Blog - Where I say stuff Follow Seleene on Twitter! |
Nomistrav
Maverick Conflict Solutions
94
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Posted - 2012.12.03 07:36:00 -
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Seleene wrote:Until DUST becomes something more than closed-beta vaporware (which has been in development for the better part of 4-5 years) and CCP starts talking to the community about their plans for it beyond some grey area, "The two games will connect!" stuff, I really don't see a point to a "DUST Player" running for CSM. I think it would be interesting to see someone whose primary focus was on a console only game running for the council of a PC only game though. Sure, give it a shot. TLDR - There are enough DUST bunnies on the CSM (or in contact with the CSM) already, or at least there were until Planetside 2 came out. v0v
Believe CSM had early access to Dust 514 anyway - I got in in Early June so I'd imagine CSM members got in before that to give it a shot.
Honestly though, I really don't like the idea of someone who is Dust 514 only (I.E. an FPS console gamer) having some form of control over Eve Online when they haven't even played it. My vote still remains on those players who (will be running for CSM) are avid in both fields, if at all.
Thanks for your comment Seleene - good to see the CSM itself is paying attention >=) |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics K162
2323
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Posted - 2012.12.03 14:38:00 -
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The CSM got DUST beta invites in the first wave of public invites. Several of us have played it, including me. I absolutely agree with Seleene, and you can read my comments on DUST in the minutes of the May/June summit. CSM 7 Secretary CSM 6 Alternate Delegate @two_step_eve on Twitter My Blog
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Janis Pendragon
StoneCutterz Shotgun Weddings
4
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Posted - 2013.01.24 02:22:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote: Is this soft trolling?
DUST514 will be a legitimate part of Eve if it goes off well. It will impact the markets, sov, warfare and perhaps most importantly the meta game. It will generate tears. If we are very very lucky it will push New Eden even closer to being a truly dynamic living world where conflict and team work can erupt in every corner of space. That being obvious, why should they not be representated on the CSM whose job is to offer advice to CCP about how to improve the game? They will be able to complete the conversational circuit between POD pilots and DUST Mercs (is that what they are called?), thus offering CCP a more robust source of feedback.
Bunnies....they are endearingly referred to as Dust Bunnies... |
Kainotomiu Ronuken
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
766
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Posted - 2013.01.24 12:17:00 -
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Isn't the CCP DUST studio in, like, China or something anyway? How would a DUST player going to Iceland be helpful?
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Niveuss Nye
The Advent of Faith
11
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Posted - 2013.01.24 13:07:00 -
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Since this is "one universe", if the DUST players can muster up the votes for "free trips to Iceland and passwords to dev chat", more power to them.
But I am sure there will be much popcorn and e-debate about this as the game moves from beta to something more concrete as there are only so many seats on the plane CCP is going to pay for. |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
238
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Posted - 2013.01.25 14:33:00 -
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Two step wrote:The CSM got DUST beta invites in the first wave of public invites. Several of us have played it, including me. I absolutely agree with Seleene, and you can read my comments on DUST in the minutes of the May/June summit.
DUST isn't EVE. Dust issues won't be the same as those from EVE. The Council of Stellar Management is there to represent the interests of EVE players and that is what is stated about it from CCP.
As such, if DUST needs some feedback mechanics to CCP, that should be from it's own body of representitives and not EVE's.
Or to put it another way, care to tell me what opinion a Dusty would have about POS revamps? How about T3 ship balancing efforts? What about missions in highsec vs lowsec vs plex's in wormholes and nullsec? What about wardec mechanics? ...
Completely meaningless topics to Dust players yet having a lot of meaning to players in EVE.
On the reverse side we have troop weapons and vehicles.
Different games with different core developer teams, "some" shared mechanics yet the actual game issues that the players will be muttering about will be entirely different with very small areas of cross-interest.
No, the CSM should remain as EVE representatives and if Dust needs it's own reps, they can work with CCP on that side but we really don't need CSM minutes covering the fire rates of rifles debated for an hour when capital ship revamps would be at least of *SOME* interest. |
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