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Maximillian Bonaparte
Bioco Industries
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:07:00 -
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This green button is confusing me....safety??
If I put it on red does that make me BAD like in Michael Jackson's song? |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
637
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Posted - 2012.12.05 21:13:00 -
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It doesnt make you bad, just allows you to do bad things, thats all. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Anstian Egivand
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.06 02:13:00 -
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Red means faster target-boom when ganking in hi-sec without having to click stupid warnings. Green means less herpderpwhineypetitions that ccp has to deal with in hi-sec from the bears. |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
0
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Posted - 2012.12.06 13:04:00 -
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Putting it on red actually does make you BAD in the Michael Jackson sense of the word, yes. |
Ristlin Wakefield
Wanderers of the Eternal Darkness Eternal Pretorian Alliance
151
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Posted - 2012.12.06 14:56:00 -
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I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow. I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
44
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Posted - 2012.12.06 16:27:00 -
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Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow.
Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on. |
Maximillian Bonaparte
Bioco Industries
50
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Posted - 2012.12.06 16:32:00 -
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Indeed, I turned mine off only to find it was back on when I relogged....hmmm. |
Cap James Tkirk
Magellan Corporation Jokers Wild.
46
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Posted - 2012.12.06 18:01:00 -
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it does come back on when you log out/in but it has not reset with sessions as of yet which is good so log in turn red and have till next time |
Ristlin Wakefield
Wanderers of the Eternal Darkness Eternal Pretorian Alliance
154
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Posted - 2012.12.06 18:54:00 -
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SB Rico wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow. Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.
Fair enough. I don't oppose the idea of having a setting to "lock" the safety in a position. But I don't appreciate some who blame carebears or noobs for the way it is now. I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |
Dracones
Tarsis Inc
1
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:28:00 -
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Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:Indeed, I turned mine off only to find it was back on when I relogged....hmmm.
Yeah, it really needs to remember what you set it at between logins. That's about the only problem with it. |
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Ritsum
Perkone Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2012.12.06 21:05:00 -
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SB Rico wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow. Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.
In a sense that would be called being "Slow", just saying. CCP has already said they are putting in a option that alows you to save the setting so until then I guess you just have to remember something every time you log in, though that might be too hard for some... I am a proud High Sec Pve player. Got a problem? |
Melody Cadelanne
Redhogs Circle-Of-Two
6
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Posted - 2012.12.07 03:20:00 -
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Dracones wrote:Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:Indeed, I turned mine off only to find it was back on when I relogged....hmmm. Yeah, it really needs to remember what you set it at between logins. That's about the only problem with it.
I read a Dev in GD addressing that, saying that they'll fix that in an upcoming patch. |
Tul Breetai
Impromptu Asset Requisition Insurance Fraud.
49
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Posted - 2012.12.07 06:58:00 -
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I like to activate my carebear button when drinking heavily. It makes me invincible! There's nothing worse than an EVE player, generally considered to be top of the food chain in the MMO world, that cannot smacktalk with wit and coherency. |
Bo Hunt
Boa Innovations Solar Citizens
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Posted - 2012.12.07 08:26:00 -
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SB Rico wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow. Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.
If the guns didn't shoot in your fight with the safety on, CONCORD would have killed you, the button only stops actions that causes you to become flagged. I can still shoot any valid target that I want. So undocking in a rush to get into a fight usually means that I am not rushing to suicide gank, which if that is what you are doing, that is fine as well I guess. It would just mean that maybe you should just HTFU and L2Gank? |
Cannibal Kane
Praetorian Cannibals
800
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Posted - 2012.12.07 08:29:00 -
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The Green button does not bug me.
I can still shoot people so I don't see the issue even with the button green. Yes they are war targets.
I do see and issue if your a -5 guy on the way to pop a barge.
Only to be there and not shooting, having forgotten to change it to red. but CCP is going to fix it for them.
People are making mountains out of mole hills. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist.
The Crazy Space Poor South African.
*Hair done by LGÇÖOr+¬al, because I'm worth it. |
Maximillian Bonaparte
Bioco Industries
50
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Posted - 2012.12.07 15:26:00 -
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Wouldn't it also stop you from shooting somoeone in lowsec, when you may or may not care about being criminally flagged? |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
44
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:23:00 -
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Ritsum wrote:SB Rico wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow. Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on. In a sense that would be called being "Slow", just saying. CCP has already said they are putting in a option that alows you to save the setting so until then I guess you just have to remember something every time you log in, though that might be too hard for some...
I seem to be pointing this out a lot, but if you read the CCP announcement it said persistancy would be done if there was enough feedback to justify it, therefore it is the job of all of us who want persistancy to *****, moan and complain till it is done. |
SB Rico
the united Negative Ten.
44
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Posted - 2012.12.07 17:25:00 -
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Bo Hunt wrote:SB Rico wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow. Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on. If the guns didn't shoot in your fight with the safety on, CONCORD would have killed you, the button only stops actions that causes you to become flagged. I can still shoot any valid target that I want. So undocking in a rush to get into a fight usually means that I am not rushing to suicide gank, which if that is what you are doing, that is fine as well I guess. It would just mean that maybe you should just HTFU and L2Gank?
Your response tells me you spend very little time in low sec, us -10 types in low sec tend to be shooting positive sec people who may not have shot at us yet. In a fleet fight you need fast responses to primaries, in a roam or a camp you need to get the guy locked/pointed fast and first time. |
Heathyr O'Halloran
Dark Angel's Legion Nite's Reign
0
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Posted - 2012.12.08 02:05:00 -
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What is it all the PVP'ers have been saying to the Mission runners about the AI changes?...oh yeah ------>
ADAPT. |
Maximillian Bonaparte
Bioco Industries
51
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Posted - 2012.12.08 19:47:00 -
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Heathyr O'Halloran wrote:What is it all the PVP'ers have been saying to the Mission runners about the AI changes?...oh yeah ------>
ADAPT.
What are you suggesting??? I'm not sure what you're implying!
I have lube though. |
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Seven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.08 23:13:00 -
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Doesn't matter coz they ruined can flipping anyway, so who is going to engage out of mistake anymore.... |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
59
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Posted - 2012.12.09 01:21:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Doesn't matter coz they ruined can flipping anyway, so who is going to engage out of mistake anymore.... So wait your whole method of killing relied on the other guy doing something as a mistake? Yeesh and I thought I had issues due to going to lowsec or counterganking Goons using Concord. Also there are many many people who will happily gank you in low and then go to Hisec where you can use the kr on them. Or you can be that ganker. |
Seven Koskanaiken
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.12.09 22:38:00 -
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ohhhhmydays lol
so i was roaming and saw a venture on dscan, and was like "omg someone actually using the new frigate to low sec mine", warped to the belt, targeted the guy
put the guns on, guns wer't working, so was like "wtf this safety thing has a bug, doesnt even work in low", set it to red and blew the venture up, then get warp scram by concord, fuuuuck i'm in 0.5 lol
i'm such a ****** that this ******-proof thing designed to stop retardedness wasn't any help for me LOOL
anyway the guy didn't even warp even with +2 point bonus to the venture, so that's a waste of a new design
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No Alibi
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 06:42:00 -
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Maximillian Bonaparte wrote:Wouldn't it also stop you from shooting somoeone in lowsec, when you may or may not care about being criminally flagged? No I fly by the seat of my pants, No wonder my-áass is always on fire! |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
417
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Posted - 2012.12.10 12:42:00 -
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SB Rico wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow. Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on.
CCP knows this and said even before release that they would make it persist between log ons, so you would only need to change your setting once. They just couldn't do it for launch.
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Bo Hunt
Boa Innovations Solar Citizens
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Posted - 2012.12.29 21:57:00 -
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SB Rico wrote:Bo Hunt wrote:SB Rico wrote:Ristlin Wakefield wrote:I've actually never seen a carebear whine about not knowing who to shoot. I've seen new players complain about not knowing better, but never a bear. This isn't a carebear button, it's a "lets try and help the new guys out" button. AND THAT's NOT A F***ING BAD THING. G** D*** sometimes I wonder if you guys really are slow. Not slow, in fact many of us are worried about the opposite, undocking in a rush to get into a fight only for the ship not to shoot cos the safety has turned back on. If the guns didn't shoot in your fight with the safety on, CONCORD would have killed you, the button only stops actions that causes you to become flagged. I can still shoot any valid target that I want. So undocking in a rush to get into a fight usually means that I am not rushing to suicide gank, which if that is what you are doing, that is fine as well I guess. It would just mean that maybe you should just HTFU and L2Gank? Your response tells me you spend very little time in low sec, us -10 types in low sec tend to be shooting positive sec people who may not have shot at us yet. In a fleet fight you need fast responses to primaries, in a roam or a camp you need to get the guy locked/pointed fast and first time.
My low sec time is spent just traveling through on a shopping trip carrying things back out to null where we don't worry about things like Concord. |
Anya Syratov
Confectura
1
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Posted - 2012.12.30 07:00:00 -
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I vote making the safety on icon a pink unicorn. Make the green button for safety disengaged. |
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