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Ymirus
Concordiat Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.12.06 19:31:00 -
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I've recently restarted this account, joined a new nullsec corp as my old one has disbanded since me stopping 2 years ago, and find myself ratting in Blood Raider space with pretty much pure minmatar skills. I used to fly a Maelstrom against Serpentis, which worked okay. Now against BR I find myself using alot more mids to get my tank to a decent size, and I was wondering if I was doing anything wrong or if the EMP/Thermal damage combo is just simply harder to tank against for the mael.
I'm considering swapping to the following fit:
[Maelstrom, Ratter] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Adaptive Invulnerability Field II Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800 100MN Afterburner II X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
Currently I run this fit:
[Maelstrom, Ratter] Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II
EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L 800mm Repeating Artillery II, EMP L
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Hammerhead II x5 Hobgoblin II x5 Hornet EC-300 x5
And in my current setup I find myself hovering at the 30% cap mark by the second wave in Forsaken Hubs, with <50% shields left.
I am also tempted to swap to Artillery, as alot of the enemies like to sit >40km, but I can currently not fit T2 Artillery yet.
Is the first fit better suited to BR tanking than what I use now? Am I doing it wrong?
Any help is greatly appreciated! |
Lord Calus
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.12.06 20:21:00 -
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Fly Amarr. Collect bacon. |
Ymirus
Concordiat Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:00:00 -
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Lord Calus wrote:Fly Amarr. Collect bacon.
Ymirus wrote:and find myself ratting in Blood Raider space with pretty much pure minmatar skills.
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Lord Calus
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:08:00 -
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Ymirus wrote:Lord Calus wrote:Fly Amarr. Collect bacon. Ymirus wrote:and find myself ratting in Blood Raider space with pretty much pure minmatar skills.
Crosstrain to Amarr. |
Ymirus
Concordiat Tribal Band
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Posted - 2012.12.06 22:17:00 -
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That's in process, but in the meantime I want to be able to rat too as stationspinning loses its appeal quickly. But you know that, you're just shiptoasting |
Lord Calus
Fractured Core Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.12.06 23:31:00 -
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Ymirus wrote:That's in process, but in the meantime I want to be able to rat too as stationspinning loses its appeal quickly. But you know that, you're just shiptoasting
Bored at work.
The TL:DR is:
You are hitting one of the strong resists. They are hitting one of your weakest resists. They neut.
Your guns don't take cap to fire, your tank should be as passive as possible, and as heavily em/therm stacked as possible. Consider passive resist amps, possibly even shifting more low slows towards shield recharge over damage. I've never done blood/sansha rats in anything other than a passive drake and Amarr ships. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.07 00:32:00 -
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spaghetti everywhere
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Gomohr
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.07 12:23:00 -
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Can you fly t2 stuff ? If yes, t2 minmatar resists are tailored for sancha and blood. I'm pretty sure an armor loki could help you out with what you wanna do, but they may be a bit pricey. I used to do exploration with a Muninn, less dps than a mael, but tank wont be a problem anymore. |
Verity Sovereign
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.07 14:57:00 -
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Ymirus wrote:I was wondering if I was doing anything wrong or if the EMP/Thermal damage combo is just simply harder to tank against for the mael.
Yes. The native Explosive resist for Mael shields is 50%, the native EM resist is 0%. Thus, all else being equal (such as number of EM/EXP hardeners), the Mael can tank twice as much Exp damage as EM damage.
When you add in Thermal and Kinetic, its not as bad... but still, you are running a shield tank against rats doing EM/Therm damage - of course it is going to be harder to tank. |
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