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Raymears Extremesurvival
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Posted - 2005.05.10 23:42:00 -
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happening ALOT,enough to be very very annoying
not CTDing anywhere else,anyone else getting this?
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Raymears Extremesurvival
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Posted - 2005.05.10 23:46:00 -
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and now since the last crash i cant log in at all
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Valen L'eganas
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Posted - 2005.05.11 17:19:00 -
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Is your problem sovled yet?
Had the CTD quite a few time during missions in Dead Space (say 5 times). I then gave up, cause it was too unstable and I didn't wanted to loose my BS.
I had no login problems yesterday, but it might have been my luck...
But everything seems to be allright now. ----------------------
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Lord Elric
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Posted - 2005.05.11 18:41:00 -
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Got same problem
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Mishi Bangbang
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Posted - 2005.05.11 18:43:00 -
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Got the same and can't login...
"The transport has not yet been connected, or authentication was not successful."
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Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2005.05.11 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Shai Faetal on 11/05/2005 18:59:30 last i got was node down :( wtf i am missing out all the mission bonuses since yesterday.
The transport has not yet been connected, or authentication was not successful.
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Heritor
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Posted - 2005.05.14 18:30:00 -
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I CTD'ed in Deadspace all the time until i disabled sound, using the Avance 97 on board sound card.....can't get the latest drivers for them. If anybody has a link to them i would be gratefull.
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BaGzY
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Posted - 2005.05.14 21:06:00 -
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Yep never stops happening for me and is costing me millions in drones, ccp sort it out
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2005.05.14 21:16:00 -
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CCP doesn't have to sort anything out. You need to purchase better hardware.
You are crashing in deadspace because your system can't handle the situational load. That is on YOUR side, not CCP's side. Notice the people with modern systems don't have that problem? ------------
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rewoz
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Posted - 2005.05.14 22:20:00 -
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Edited by: rewoz on 14/05/2005 22:22:44
Guardian Alpha that's BS and you know it. There is nothing wrong with the hardware, I have quite a new system myself and happen to get crashes in EVE every now and then.
I have never ever had problems like these with any other MMO and beleive me I have played many and for a long time.
I hate to see people give opinions or ****ty advice on the boards when they have no clue about the problem.
I don't care if you work for NASA and built the first transistor, EVE has alot of buggy code, partially the fault of many things beeing done in Python language.
World of Warcraft for example never causes these kind of problems for players who also got EVE.
I think you just all need to face the fact that EVE has some poor coding in the background and stop blaming people and their system and give ****ty advice like change your motherboard, flash your BIOS or reinstall everything and get a new HD or whatever.
It just makes me sick to my stomach when I read people who've actually done that only to find the same bug repeating.
EVE IS BUGGY, JUST BITE IT.
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2005.05.15 05:46:00 -
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So tell me again, if it isn't hardware, why have I NEVER once CTD even in 300+ fleet battles?
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rewoz
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Posted - 2005.05.15 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: rewoz on 15/05/2005 08:50:36
Originally by: Guardian Alpha So tell me again, if it isn't hardware, why have I NEVER once CTD even in 300+ fleet battles?
It is hardware related, it is EVE who has compatbility problems with different hardware setups.
Do you honestly beleive EVE is a perfect game with no bugs on its behalf whatsoever? Do you think all the people that have sound problems with eve just happen to have faulty configurations, while they DO NOT have any similiar problems with other games.
Do you think people with very expensive sound equipment and who work with music just happen to have the wrong sound drivers installed?
When I read your question I got stunned of how your reason around things, "I have never crashed how come you crash then it must be your fault" !
If we'd have software engineers thinking like that we'd still be running MS DOS by now.
But yes, you are right too, some people have done things wrong that DO cause problems in EVE, but there is also alot of things wrong with the EVE engine.
EVE has buggy code and they need to get it together, it is a well known fact that EVE in general is a buggy game, ask anyone.
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Guardian Alpha
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Posted - 2005.05.15 08:53:00 -
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Quote: Do you honestly beleive EVE is a perfect game with no bugs on its behalf whatsoever? Do you think all the people that have sound problems with eve just happen to have faulty configurations, while they DO NOT have any similiar problems with other games.
I've told you time and time again (thick skulled or what?) that I know EVE has it's share of bugs, like any peice of software.
But the majority of problems I've ever seen have been solved on the client side of the person versus it being a problem with CCP or EVE.
Drop the snotty attitude and start reading what I'm posting versus asking the same thing over and over across different threads. ------------
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Kesh McCall
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Posted - 2005.05.15 09:28:00 -
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Edited by: Kesh McCall on 15/05/2005 09:29:57 Hardware related CTD ???
I have a Network here with 5 complete different Setups. I usaly have at least 2 CPUs running one with my Main Char and one with my Hauler Alt to pick up cans. Once i send Drones on a Structure in DS BOTH Cpus go down in the cellar my Screens on both CPUS who are in that DS pocket start to freeze and it happens to everyone else in the same DS pocket. This isnt happening if i shoot missles or fire other weapons on said structure. And it only happens to certain structures for example a War installation bu it can also happen with very small structures. This is a bug and not Hardware failure on client side. However if you crash to desktop during this its because your machine cant handle the failure on the server side. I hardly ever drop to DT even in this situations, but one of my corpmate does alot as soon as we engage structures. So the resume of this is: Softwareerror and coding error on Server side wich leads to CDT on slower machines
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rewoz
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Posted - 2005.05.15 10:32:00 -
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Quote: I've told you time and time again (thick skulled or what?) that I know EVE has it's share of bugs, like any peice of software.
This is wrong, EVE has more bugs than most mmos out there. Games like World of Warcraft and Dark Age of Camelot have tons of more content than EVE and they still have better stability.
EVE is only a large game by concept, but every system is more or less a clone of any other system, and the game mechanics that apply are not more or less advanced than your regular fantasy mmo. EVE just happens to be a Python coded game instead of a C or C++ one and that's basically the source of alot of the gameplay issues, poor FPS (interface eats alot), lag, CTDs and whatnot.
I want to emphasize that I have never ever had ANY problems whatsoever with the mentioned games above that can be directly linked to similiar problems in EVE.
Lastly, I don't have an attitude, if you think I do you are misunderstanding me.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.05.16 18:29:00 -
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I've had CTD issues since the release of DS missions and have started countless threads about it but seems it isn't of concern and doesn't affect enough people cuz they aint changed it and told me there is nothing wrong.
I've petitioned it, I've bug reported it, I've emailed support outside of game.
And yes I've narrowed it down to the sound or gang skill bonuses.
Disabling the sound is easier than trying to get any support from CCP on the issue.
Get all ships blown up and the first person in gang shoots a building and next thing you know various people in gang start shooting off into the distances.
What's even better is my gang mates and I set up a network at a buddies house to fly real time team speak same room.
It's rather hilarious when 3 of 4 people start going .... ut oh not responding.
ut oh was taking fire before i activated repairer.
ut oh CTD.(4th person)
really i see you here still on my screen.
Dammn it not letting me log back in.
Ut oh, now I'm not responding now(third person) your still here getting blasted i can see it, quick sign in another char to insto remove you. Both of ya.
What you mean i aint warped yet?
Nope nobody warped yet everyone still here.
well there goes jimbob. he warped. doing what i can ..... missles in route.
POP well there ya go off in your pod but your ship stayed ...... well your ship remains.
WTF I gonna petition.
WTF they said they aint replacing it.(as if they happened that fast)
Well i guess it good thing we work together, here take this ship. Lets get back in there and finish that.
We get all ganged back together and start after the buildings again.
When first building is shot at ..... boom it all starts again.
Happens terribly and multiple times in silence the informant lvl 4. for us.
Seems ganging to get everyone to the enterance and then disbanding gang appears to help but doesn't "fix"
Also found running dual accounts and window mode is very very terrible and causes multiple crashes in DS. I won't even have a second account logged in and in station for a DS mission anymore.
I got two exact puters except one has a vid card and other uses same Mobo but onboard ati graphics with 128MB and 400Mhz onboard graphics chip.
the onboard graphics one also uses that bridge for sound accellerator.
The one that uses the vid card is less likely to CTD and can't help to think it's due to less load on that bridge.
Running 2 gig RAM and 3.4 GHz P4 systems. Any and all other games work flawlessly.
Getting up to 90 and 100 FPS in station with the one with the vid card. 65/70 without.
Also found the DS missions with mussic are even more prone to CTD leading me to think it's sound related.
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BaGzY
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Posted - 2005.05.17 14:26:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha CCP doesn't have to sort anything out. You need to purchase better hardware.
You are crashing in deadspace because your system can't handle the situational load. That is on YOUR side, not CCP's side. Notice the people with modern systems don't have that problem?
well actually i'm not sure how u know what i am running, and in response if a GeForce 6800 GT and pentium 4 3ghz processor with 1 gig of ddr ram can't run a basic deadspace mission, then there is CCP's new problem
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Alexander Rahl
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Posted - 2005.05.18 07:00:00 -
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Yup I have had this on several occasions too. Its not Client side hardware its software. Only ever happens on deadspace missions and mainly on the vengeance mission. I NEVER CTD any more except on DS missions. I have bug reported it too but to no avail. Cmon CCP recognise that this is a problem. Always happens when firing on a structure. Since last patch logging in afterwards takes forever as well. ----/ / /-----<[]>-----\ \ \---- Head of House Rahl Warleader of the Rahl Clans
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.05.18 16:23:00 -
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Yes almost instantly happens in window mode two chars when shooting a structure.
Don't even get to see the first shot get fired.
Click ....... crash
or even if you use the hot keys.
f1 .... crash before you even let the key up.
it's the hardest most abrupt crash I've ever had in eve.
I've even asked if the person working with my petition wanted me to exicute the crash using the log server but again not sure how to use that and they didn't even reply.
Seem this is another one those. Our logs show there is no problem problems. So they won't even look into it.
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Raymears Extremesurvival
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Posted - 2005.05.18 19:09:00 -
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update well its still happening to me :(
its not my pc unable to handle it,i have a p4 3ghz with 1gig of ram and a 6800gt
that system is not troubled by eve
i have tried changing drivers for everything with no real difference,tried disabling sound and about everything else that people seem to mention
none of it has solved the problem,so that does rather suggest the problems with the eve client or servers
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Tae Oul
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Posted - 2005.05.19 09:28:00 -
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Happens to me too, almost every dead space mission (twice last night in Angel Extrav); and this is a right royal pain as I'm a drone user.
Have no problem with any other game (incl. other MMGs) and don't CTD anywhere other than deadspace.
Spec> Athlon64 3500, GeForce 6800GT 256MB, SB Audigy and 1GB of Ram so it's not that my system can't handle it. I'm also a software engineer so I know my way around my system and it's not a conflict or hardware instability issue. It's an Eve bug.
It's starting to reach the point that game is becoming unplayable.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.05.19 15:52:00 -
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Yep window mode or even full screen mode using the alt tab button to safely and properly toggle.
building another puter and expanding the network and simply going to have a second client one way or another and have it work.
And to only have 2 crashes would be nice.
My favorite mission and most bugged for me is the informant mission lvl 4. each cahar crashes atleast 3 to 5 times in first stage. plus all the travel times with tanked BS if I crash in second or third stage which i usually do.
And all I use my second account for is a mual hauler. i could see if iwere covering my own self with myself but I just use the alt for a loot ammo dump in space.
My favorite mission is my most hated mission for this bug and it's been here since release of deadspace missions.
Either stuff stops responding and won't let ya relog for about 5 minutes or it crashes so abrupt and violent that it throws you out of your deskchair.
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Cyber Baron
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Posted - 2005.05.20 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: Guardian Alpha CCP doesn't have to sort anything out. You need to purchase better hardware.
You are crashing in deadspace because your system can't handle the situational load. That is on YOUR side, not CCP's side. Notice the people with modern systems don't have that problem?
Sorry but you are totally wrong. Some people (like me)have regular CTD with excellent and recent PCs, while others (like me too with my laptop) don't have any with PCs that are 2 or 3 years old and with less power.
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Raymears Extremesurvival
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Posted - 2005.05.23 17:16:00 -
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do you think we will ever get a dev response about this and whats being done?
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Fibreux
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Posted - 2005.05.24 07:59:00 -
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I have expirienced this one too, but only on couple missions i think.
Silence the Informant: 1st stage and 2nd stage. Normally when i activate any of my guns.
Damsel in Distress, Rogue drone Harrasment. Similar to above.
On a positive side, i haven't crashed for two days now. Also just before the crash happens i hear increased hard drive activity what amazes me that i don't crash on Serpentis Extravaganza which is alot heavier mission than those.
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2005.05.24 14:54:00 -
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I hate to be a me2be but;
Same here. I only get CTD's on deadspace. Most annoyingly I get locked out for a good 3 or so minutes after the ctd. That's 3 minutes of sitting wondering If I still have a ship around my pod.
It's nothing to do with my PC. It's deadspace sepecific.
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X'Alor
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Posted - 2005.05.24 18:48:00 -
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whenever I crash like that, i try to watch with my other character. If the crash char does not quickly warp out .......... I log it to another char to force him to disappear as the game simply will not allow multiple same chars one account ingame.
There have been times where I simply and quickly just log to another char as the ship was undertaking serious damage and at time of lockup and modules stop responding in a sort of lag spike. No sense in waiting for the inEVEitable CTD that will follow.
so opposed to pod wondering ...... skip the wait till warp scene and log an alt immediately
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Tusa Sunseeker
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Posted - 2005.05.25 11:33:00 -
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I often get CTD's, however, they only occur when I have minimised EVE to play around in Windows Media Player or Bitcomet, when I maximise EVE again, it will CTD about 30% of the time. I rarely get CTD's without doing something in windows to "trigger" it.
FYI, I have sound disabled, Comp specs are P4 2.4, 768m DDR ram (generic), Soltek SL-85ERV2 motherboard, GF4 Mx440 graphics card. (Everything updated with latest drivers / firmware / flashed ect.)
Perhaps *some* of you users should try looking for any programs in the background that may be causing problems, if you havent already.
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Commoner
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Posted - 2005.06.05 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Tusa Sunseeker I often get CTD's, however, they only occur when I have minimised EVE to play around in Windows Media Player or Bitcomet, when I maximise EVE again, it will CTD about 30% of the time. I rarely get CTD's without doing something in windows to "trigger" it.
FYI, I have sound disabled, Comp specs are P4 2.4, 768m DDR ram (generic), Soltek SL-85ERV2 motherboard, GF4 Mx440 graphics card. (Everything updated with latest drivers / firmware / flashed ect.)
Perhaps *some* of you users should try looking for any programs in the background that may be causing problems, if you havent already.
Exactly like me, EVE will sometimes CTD if i multitask, totally random and it happens the most in deadspace. After a CTD in deadspace you can't log in for the next 5 mins.
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Cyber Baron
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Posted - 2005.06.07 12:17:00 -
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Originally by: X'Alor whenever I crash like that, i try to watch with my other character. If the crash char does not quickly warp out .......... I log it to another char to force him to disappear as the game simply will not allow multiple same chars one account ingame.
There have been times where I simply and quickly just log to another char as the ship was undertaking serious damage and at time of lockup and modules stop responding in a sort of lag spike. No sense in waiting for the inEVEitable CTD that will follow.
so opposed to pod wondering ...... skip the wait till warp scene and log an alt immediately
Thanks for this tip. I wish I had read this before... some days ago I had a CTD just when warping to last stage of Extravanza mission (lvl 4). Of couorse my char go stuck for a few minutes, and when I could reconnect again, I was in a pod... Lost my Raven with arbies, caldari navy ballistic, and other nice T2 or named quipment, so basically I lost around 800 millions. It could be even worse with a Navy issue Raven and better named equipement.
After having mailed to CCP, I finally got my answer today, saying that they regret but there was nothing abnormal on the servers when I lost my ship. It seems CCP is unable to check that we really have a CTD.
So now I really wonder why I should continue playing, if I can lose all I have at anytime to a CTD. Why sparing isk to buy named stuff, why working to get a Navy issue BS ?
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