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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:24:00 -
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Jashmyne wrote: As for buying ships in Eve Online with real-life money, how do you think I got my ships ? By grinding my butt off ? Hell no, I bought a few plex using real money, sold it at the market and used that money to buy my ships and fittings(which is how I got my outfits as well, I didn't use any Aurum for that). As long as it's a pre-existing ship then CCP can put them on the shop as much as they want as long as they are obtainable for the market as well using ISK. They can put reskins of a existing ship exclusivly on the cash shop for all I care as such a move would not bring any advantages to anyone.
If you think being able to buy any in-game item from the cash shop would not give anyone an advantage, you might want to learn how the EVE market works, and how hard it already is for miners to make isk... you are presenting people with a way to buy minerals, without having to mine, kill anything, or anything else. In EVE, because of our player driven economy, anything that bring any new items into the game has to be very carefully monitored. Right now the only way to get an item without minerals being SOMEWHERE in the history of it is the LP store, which has very high non-isk costs to purchase from.
Understand the systems you want so desperately yo alter before you try to have them altered. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Wacktopia
Sicarius. Legion of The Damned.
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:31:00 -
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Mai Kusoni wrote:Or they just remove PLEX from the game. Then everyone, not just the new players, will have to pay to play. I can just imagine the crying then.
DERP.
You do realise that PLEX do not just exist in game randomly and that someone has to buy them with real money. So (in case you didn't get it from my first sentance) someone has always paid real money for the month of game time; either directly through a sub or indirectly by buying a PLEX with ISK that someone else bought first with real-world cash. |
Barbelo Valentinian
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:31:00 -
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There's nothing problematic or sneaky about what Hilmar said, it's just a statement of fact.
They have no plans for X now and for the foreseeable future.
Their plans may change in the future - they have to have that flexibility to survive.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
75
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:33:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote:There's nothing problematic or sneaky about what Hilmar said, it's just a statement of fact.
They have no plans for X now and for the foreseeable future.
Their plans may change in the future - they have to have that flexibility to survive.
Which is basically the same PR Blogs they pushed out months ago, in a different format.
Same message, no change.
Just sprinkle in some sympathy and tears and you all bought it :)
Bread and Circuses, as long as you get ship spinning, they can keep you from leaving. If that is all it takes for you to stay, lol hahahah hahahahahah, stupid people. |
Signal11th
77
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:35:00 -
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Oh no not this subject again.. To be honest I actually quite liked Hilmar's little blog but as I itterated the last time this went on. I haven't with vanity items as in if some clown wants to spend $80 dollars on a monocle that makes him/her look like a **** that's their problem.
If CCP start selling stuff that gives people an advantage over the normal player because they can afford it I will leave end of.
I would really like to see character purchasing stopped as well but thats another story. EVE is sill as good as when I first started and long may it contiue!!! God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
75
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:37:00 -
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I really hope CCP do put game items and remaps and slots into the NEX store, flush out the wussies.
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Jashmyne
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:37:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Jashmyne wrote: As for buying ships in Eve Online with real-life money, how do you think I got my ships ? By grinding my butt off ? Hell no, I bought a few plex using real money, sold it at the market and used that money to buy my ships and fittings(which is how I got my outfits as well, I didn't use any Aurum for that). As long as it's a pre-existing ship then CCP can put them on the shop as much as they want as long as they are obtainable for the market as well using ISK. They can put reskins of a existing ship exclusivly on the cash shop for all I care as such a move would not bring any advantages to anyone.
If you think being able to buy any in-game item from the cash shop would not give anyone an advantage, you might want to learn how the EVE market works, and how hard it already is for miners to make isk... you are presenting people with a way to buy minerals, without having to mine, kill anything, or anything else. In EVE, because of our player driven economy, anything that bring any new items into the game has to be very carefully monitored. Right now the only way to get an item without minerals being SOMEWHERE in the history of it is the LP store, which has very high non-isk costs to purchase from. Understand the systems you want so desperately yo alter before you try to have them altered. Maybe so but that's not the topic now is it ? The topic is pay 2 win and what you just posted has nothing to do with that. |
Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
25
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:46:00 -
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Barbelo Valentinian wrote:There's nothing problematic or sneaky about what Hilmar said, it's just a statement of fact.
They have no plans for X now and for the foreseeable future.
Their plans may change in the future - they have to have that flexibility to survive.
Should i remind you of a year back statement that they have no plans for MT shop? Year passed, take a look at NeX. Similar? No. Same. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
75
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:46:00 -
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Jashmyne wrote: Maybe so but that's not the topic now is it ? The topic is pay 2 win and what you just posted has nothing to do with that.
Umm, thats exactly what it has to do with. If you can buy anything off the NEX that exists in game, you can refine it into free minerals... Thats pretty win for anyone who wants to build supercaps, and in order for it to sell any at all anyway, it will be cheaper than buying the mins with plex isk.
P2W would destroy the economy of EVE.
I'm not even going to address the fact that every eve player who enjoys pvp would end up quiting over it o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
75
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:48:00 -
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The economy of eve is already destroyed, the market is so inactive, prices being pushed up.
Market is almost dead.
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Naran Eto
Kut-n-Run
4
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Posted - 2011.10.06 12:54:00 -
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Phantom Slave wrote:Ong wrote:Sorry did I read between the lines and take theses quotes from Hellmar's blog correctly? "Unless the MMO business changes radically, our virtual goods strategy for EVE Online will remain limited in scope and focus on vanity items" "Though the introduction was clearly flawed, our plans for virtual goods are intended to make your playing experience better, not to disrupt it. From a strategic perspective, we had to take these first steps because monthly subscriptions are increasingly becoming a thing of the past" I take from these that right now you wont, but in the future you might do 'pay to win' And I'm meant to be grateful and applaud If the MMO market went completely away from subscriptions and went to item malls only, then CCP would be idiotic to not follow suit. The MMO market has not done this yet, so CCP is staying the course. Why is this an issue with so many people?
Because some people just want to find something to complain about in anything they read. To be honest it seems eve has far more than it's fair share of these people, it must be the nature of the type of game eve is atracting these people. |
Jashmyne
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:08:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:Jashmyne wrote: Maybe so but that's not the topic now is it ? The topic is pay 2 win and what you just posted has nothing to do with that.
Umm, thats exactly what it has to do with. If you can buy anything off the NEX that exists in game, you can refine it into free minerals... Thats pretty win for anyone who wants to build supercaps, and in order for it to sell any at all anyway, it will be cheaper than buying the mins with plex isk. P2W would destroy the economy of EVE. I'm not even going to address the fact that every eve player who enjoys pvp would end up quiting over it And who says it will be cheaper ? Just look at the prices in the cash shop. Do you really think that CCP will put up ships in the shop that equal the market value ? Of course not, it will be expensive as hell and won't be worth it just for the minerals. Of course if it's expensive then people won't even bother to buy it from the shop and just go the same way I did with selling the PLEX for cash and getting the ship through the market Which is why we will probably only see re-skinned ships making it a good point that you are buying this ship for the vanity alone as anything else is a waste of money. |
March rabbit
Ganse Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:15:00 -
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Alex Sinai wrote:Barbelo Valentinian wrote:There's nothing problematic or sneaky about what Hilmar said, it's just a statement of fact.
They have no plans for X now and for the foreseeable future.
Their plans may change in the future - they have to have that flexibility to survive.
Should i remind you of a year back statement that they have no plans for MT shop? Year passed, take a look at NeX. Similar? No. Same. don't be a little child. RL is happens. RL is changing some time. People need to adapt. And no one can say for sure what will be years after.
If this is too difficult to you try to imagine that you will be in Eve, do the same stuff you are doing now, be in the same corp with the same people around 1-2 years after today? Can you say for sure it will be? Then why blame others for adapt? |
Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
25
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:19:00 -
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I noticed that lately market prices are up on almost everything but ores. It's very hard for miners even of high skills to make good ISK not even speaking of making a PLEX off mining if not to mine 24/7 in High sec.
And if to do so in W-Space or Low Sec there's always something happens. Either K162 opens in with attackers or some super rats show up. Of course GMs say its game mechanics but somehow when you make big ISK always and i mean always something happens that you lose either very big part of it or even more then earned. Game mechanics, yeah right. |
Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
25
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:25:00 -
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March rabbit wrote: don't be a little child. RL is happens. RL is changing some time. People need to adapt. And no one can say for sure what will be years after.
If this is too difficult to you try to imagine that you will be in Eve, do the same stuff you are doing now, be in the same corp with the same people around 1-2 years after today? Can you say for sure it will be? Nope? Then why blame others for adapt?
Really March rabbit. I'm so flattered. When company makes these statements and then only a year after breaks that promise, would you personally invest your money in that company? I don't think so. When that same company makes very similar statements on similar topics after that, would you believe that company? I don't think so.
So don't be a child. |
Signal11th
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:31:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Alex Sinai wrote:Barbelo Valentinian wrote:There's nothing problematic or sneaky about what Hilmar said, it's just a statement of fact.
They have no plans for X now and for the foreseeable future.
Their plans may change in the future - they have to have that flexibility to survive.
Should i remind you of a year back statement that they have no plans for MT shop? Year passed, take a look at NeX. Similar? No. Same. don't be a little child. RL is happens. RL is changing some time. People need to adapt. And no one can say for sure what will be years after. If this is too difficult to you try to imagine that you will be in Eve, do the same stuff you are doing now, be in the same corp with the same people around 1-2 years after today? Can you say for sure it will be? Nope? Then why blame others for adapt?
I do love these people who yell "adapt" when anything changes as they usually yell the loudest when something that they like gets changed. God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!"-á I came second and won a toaster. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
75
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:33:00 -
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Go FREE to play already...
Flush out the wussies and replace them with other wussies.
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Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
25
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:42:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Go FREE to play already...
Flush out the wussies and replace them with other wussies.
Disagree on that. I would not play free2play game since its obvious pay2win game. Subscription based is good. Without shops inside. |
Nth Ares
Aliastra Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:00:00 -
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If EVE finally goes pay2win, I'd advise just quitting this idiotic genre already. CCP's been amazing at holding out on the F2P/Cash Shop pressure for so long, and implementing it as halfheartedly as they did. I don't hold any illusion that their sub-based system can last forever though. I think that's why they always give themselves an "out" in these statements, just in case clauses for when the MMO market goes entirely to the bottom.
The players keep enabling F2P with their shortsightedness and addiction. "Must keep playing ****** game! It'll get better if I just buy these cash potions!" You think that won't happen to EVE? One of the big features they talked about for station establishments was the potential to deal BOOSTERS. I'd imagine many of these could be sold for real money, and be better than the drugs in the game now.
Let's try and hold CCP to their promises. If they go pay2win, quit and mean it. If they improve the game, stay and maybe even buy some of their stupid monocles out of solidarity. Yes in my mind these are mutually exclusive outcomes. |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
75
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:08:00 -
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Alex Sinai wrote:Miilla wrote:Go FREE to play already...
Flush out the wussies and replace them with other wussies.
Disagree on that. I would not play free2play game since its obvious pay2win game. Subscription based is good. Without shops inside.
Eve is already PAY to WIN.
I can PAY for a CHARACTER to WIN I can PAY for PLEX to WIN
Eve already has a shop inside (NEX)
You are a bit late with your tears, a couple of YEARS late.
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Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
26
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:18:00 -
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Nth Ares wrote:If EVE finally goes pay2win, I'd advise just quitting this idiotic genre already. CCP's been amazing at holding out on the F2P/Cash Shop pressure for so long, and implementing it as halfheartedly as they did. I don't hold any illusion that their sub-based system can last forever though. I think that's why they always give themselves an "out" in these statements, just in case clauses for when the MMO market goes entirely to the bottom.
The players keep enabling F2P with their shortsightedness and addiction. "Must keep playing ****** game! It'll get better if I just buy these cash potions!" You think that won't happen to EVE? One of the big features they talked about for station establishments was the potential to deal BOOSTERS. I'd imagine many of these could be sold for real money, and be better than the drugs in the game now.
Let's try and hold CCP to their promises. If they go pay2win, quit and mean it. If they improve the game, stay and maybe even buy some of their stupid monocles out of solidarity. Yes in my mind these are mutually exclusive outcomes.
Well, i can say that i partially agree and partially disagree with you. MT as someone said here is first sign of failure and F2P is admittance of a failure. Attempts to implement MT in subscription based game only make it fail faster. I bought a few PLEXes and seriously it made me nearly quit the game since the fun from playing it wasn't the same at all after that. So i quit buying these for various reasons. PLEX already gives you an advantage in game. It's the only MT i can live with since it also works both ways. Players can buy PLEX and they can sell PLEX. While for most players it's an illusion but not reality. Lately it's been way too hard to gain enough ISK off mining activities to even think about PLEX.
EVE survived years without any MT or P2W. Why exactly it should go that lousy road now. Just because Hilmar wants more $? Huh, we seen enough greedy idiots fail and kill their incomes thanks to greed. Personally, if i see any P2W item in game and that does includes ship skins since everyone either gets same ships or players make skins and sell them on markets or it's a milk off us, i will unsubscribe and go play other games. It's a red line i will not cross no matter how many people will scream out "adapt". If everyone jumps from the roof, will you too? Somehow i don't think so. |
flakeys
The Great cornholio's Paper Tiger Coalition
15
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:27:00 -
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Amonestos wrote:That's not what that says at all. It simply says the company needs to strategically adapt a business model to the cultural and economical changes relating to the MMO industry. Key to this: introducing a micro-transaction model that has low impact but can be adapted in the future to replace a subscription based model if it was ever necessary.
And add free to play?Because if you claim to adapt to what other mmorpgs are doing then we all know FTP and micro-transactions usually go hand in hand.
I'm not for or against either though , it is what it is. |
Mr Kidd
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:53:00 -
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Miilla wrote:Alex Sinai wrote:Miilla wrote:Go FREE to play already...
Flush out the wussies and replace them with other wussies.
Disagree on that. I would not play free2play game since its obvious pay2win game. Subscription based is good. Without shops inside. Eve is already PAY to WIN. I can PAY for a CHARACTER to WIN I can PAY for PLEX to WIN Eve already has a shop inside (NEX) You are a bit late with your tears, a couple of YEARS late.
There are a few caveats to your conclusion. And I know, Milla, you're just trolling.
But, the caveats are, game altering items are available to anyone whether they use a CC or isk to purchase them. Character sales are a good thing for the game no matter who can or is willing to afford them. And still, anyone can purchase a character.
The current structure of MT in Eve, NeX excluded, is that these transactions are an amalgamation of the purchaser (player), CCP and the seller (player). The benefits purchased by the purchaser are also transmuted to CCP and the seller. Overall, it's beneficial to the game as a whole as much as MT can be beneficial to any game. Rather than a purely parasitic system of transactions whereby only the purchaser and CCP benefit, the third party benefits as well. If we have to have MT, and I don't think we're going to rid ourselves of it, this is probably the most balanced MT system out there. Lets hope that CCP continues it in this manner where MT is inclusive and beneficial to the entire playerbase rather than a parasitic system with rich people clubbing baby seals for sport. We want breast augmentations and sluttier clothing in the NeX! |
Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
76
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:56:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:Miilla wrote:Alex Sinai wrote:Miilla wrote:Go FREE to play already...
Flush out the wussies and replace them with other wussies.
Disagree on that. I would not play free2play game since its obvious pay2win game. Subscription based is good. Without shops inside. Eve is already PAY to WIN. I can PAY for a CHARACTER to WIN I can PAY for PLEX to WIN Eve already has a shop inside (NEX) You are a bit late with your tears, a couple of YEARS late. There are a few caveats to your conclusion. And I know, Milla, you're just trolling. But, the caveats are, game altering items are available to anyone whether they use a CC or isk to purchase them. Character sales are a good thing for the game no matter who can or is willing to afford them. And still, anyone can purchase a character. The current structure of MT in Eve, NeX excluded, is that these transactions are an amalgamation of the purchaser (player), CCP and the seller (player). The benefits purchased by the purchaser are also transmuted to CCP and the seller. Overall, it's beneficial to the game as a whole as much as MT can be beneficial to any game. Rather than a purely parasitic system of transactions whereby only the purchaser and CCP benefit, the third party benefits as well. If we have to have MT, and I don't think we're going to rid ourselves of it, this is probably the most balanced MT system out there. Lets hope that CCP continues it in this manner where MT is inclusive and beneficial to the entire playerbase rather than a parasitic system with rich people clubbing baby seals for sport.
PLEX IS game altering Character farming and selling IS game altering
Remaps are NOT game altering Fitting storage slots are NOT game altering
You don't mind the first two, yet you cry foul on the second two.
The mind boggles.
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Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
26
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:05:00 -
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Miilla wrote:PLEX IS game altering Character farming and selling IS game altering
Remaps are NOT game altering Fitting storage slots are NOT game altering
You don't mind the first two, yet you cry foul on the second two.
The mind boggles.
As long as that kind of MT involves players on both sides of sale and acquisition without game mechanics changes to make players buy more stuff it might be acceptable. PLEX is acceptable while i suspect CCP did game mechanics changes to try to make people buy more PLEXes. Just notice how your game-play changes once you start buying them. "Events" start to happen way more frequently. And please, don't try these "no experience" bluff. It's laughable and lousy excuse. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:07:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Apparently the only acceptable statements from CEO's are concrete promises that can never be violated under any circumstances.
And why not? It's completely reasonable to expect all corporations to be able to predict the future, tell you exactly what will work and what won't, promise their customers a blanket course of action irregardless of changing external factors, and than deliver their products on time, in exactly the form customers demand, at their price point, and still beat their competition.
How dare you admit the possibility of changing your plans, Hellmar, how dare you. :-P
Bingo.
What I take from it is Hillmar saying "if it one day comes to a choice of keeping CCP and EVE alive by changing how we make money, or withering on the vine and letting it all die, we'll do what we have to to survive".
This thread is an example of how unreasonable and unrealistic customers (who are to narrow minded to understand anything other their their own point of view) can be, and why it's usually a good idea for companies to not pay much attention to them.
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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
76
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:10:00 -
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Alex Sinai wrote:Miilla wrote:PLEX IS game altering Character farming and selling IS game altering
Remaps are NOT game altering Fitting storage slots are NOT game altering
You don't mind the first two, yet you cry foul on the second two.
The mind boggles.
As long as that kind of MT involves players on both sides of sale and acquisition without game mechanics changes to make players buy more stuff it might be acceptable. PLEX is acceptable while i suspect CCP did game mechanics changes to try to make people buy more PLEXes. Just notice how your game-play changes once you start buying them. "Events" start to happen way more frequently. And please, don't try these "no experience" bluff. It's laughable and lousy excuse.
We already have remaps, making them more frequent for players who want them, will not make a gameplay difference, in fact the opposite, it will make it more accessible and less frustrating for players.
Fitting slots, people are crying for more, so let them have more, not everybody needs more, I don't, but let the people who want more slots have the convenience. Convenience is very much like vanity, non game changing.
Are you saying that fitting slots will make EVE one sided and those with more money will win due to it? I don't think so, same for remaps.
Are you saying if I get more frequent remaps or more fitting slots I can pwn you in NULL or LOW or W?
I don't think so. |
DickbeardThePirate
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:20:00 -
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I think the key point is more "monthly subscriptions are increasingly becoming a thing of the past" Many high quality games like the upcoming Guild Wars 2 are basically free to play MMOs.
It looks to me like the plan for the NeX store was indeed to remove PLEX, along with all forms of paying for eve online. Replacing subscriptions with vanity items and other select paid content can and has worked extremely well for many numbers of "freemium" MMOs like Dungeons & Dragons Online and DC Universe Online is also soon adopting this, and it is IMHO one of the most fair ways for MMOs to make money.
It wouldn't work quite as well in EVE as in these other two games due to to the way content in EVE is managed, they couldn't do the "you need to buy this brand new expansion raid content as a small one time purchase if you want to play it" thing, but I assume that's what he meant by taking steps to measure and test the viability of nex store income for CCP now.
That's just my speculation regardless. |
Alex Sinai
Mining And Probing Specialists
26
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:21:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Bingo.
What I take from it is Hillmar saying "if it one day comes to a choice of keeping CCP and EVE alive by changing how we make money, or withering on the vine and letting it all die, we'll do what we have to to survive".
This thread is an example of how unreasonable and unrealistic customers (who are to narrow minded to understand anything other their their own point of view) can be, and why it's usually a good idea for companies to not pay much attention to them.
You see dear, it's about half of EVE player base they try not to pay attention to. That' what you ask, not to pay attention. They tried that. Lost loads of players. CEO announcements isn't made on daily basis. That mean something. And your request not to pay attention to player base... they were there and fail.
Corporations who do not pay attention to their customers fail. Examples? AT&T a few years back went on brink of collapse thanks to their "package plans" and was saved by US Government, IBM selling its laptops division because they were a big time failure while making excellent laptops they failed to make any profits off it because the configurations and price range was lousy. Apple when they sacked out Steve Jobs began to fail drastically and they brought him back. Sometimes it's CEO who fails not the customers. Smart CEOs understand where they failed and try not to make mistakes again. While Hilmar understood most of the failures that were made he did not understood or don't want to understand the fundamental one. Sometimes it's not the customers, it's companies failure.
And you forget something, we already seen these statements about shop that they have no current plans... a year after we see the shop. If we would see it 3 or 5 years after, no fuss. It happens that policy changes. A year after? And now we see another very similar statement. In fact two statements that contradict each other. |
Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
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Posted - 2011.10.06 15:23:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:
Bingo.
What I take from it is Hillmar saying "if it one day comes to a choice of keeping CCP and EVE alive by changing how we make money, or withering on the vine and letting it all die, we'll do what we have to to survive".
Yes.
Jenn aSide wrote:This thread is an example of how unreasonable and unrealistic customers (who are to narrow minded to understand anything other their their own point of view) can be, and why it's usually a good idea for companies to not pay much attention to them.
No.
This thread discusses two separate issues. One, whether the CEO of CCP should say "will never happen" (which he shouldnt), but more importantly, Two: wheter at Free2play / MT model is the futrure of MMOs.
The last discussion is a worthy one, as there seems to be a perception within CCP that "The MMO industry is moving towards free2play / MT business models". I belive that opinion to be premature at best, and probably widely off the mark. |
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