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JitaPriceChecker2
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.09 12:53:00 -
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GÇ£3) The worst part. Tried a few missions. Looks like you get full aggro in every pocket, no matter of triggers. Not sure if thatGÇÖs bug or feature. In case of the latterGǪ looks like this is the end of RMT botting. Just because it simply kills possibility to run L4 missions using newly created chars flying crap ships. You just wonGÇÖt have enough tank to get out alive. Also it was funny when I get 5 tacklers on me, one of them turns on scrambler, I start to kill it, in like 10 secs it turns off scrambler and webs me instead, while 2 others start to scram me. I predict bad bad timesGǪGÇ¥ |
baltec1
Bat Country
3162
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:01:00 -
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My heard bleeds for the people with an ability to not adapt to change. |
raskonalkov
Tie Fighters Inc
3
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:17:00 -
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Mine doesn't. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1203
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:36:00 -
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what eve needs are killboards for NPCs. Lets give the best tacklers a little bit fame. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Mr Pragmatic
146
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:40:00 -
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Troll 0/10
No one who actually does missions believes that missions should stay the way they are now. As a advocate for the rights of High security citizens, I implore all of you who actually care to petition CCP to change to make it more feasible to do missions. Vote for me in the next CSM Elections. I will fight for the interest of all Hi-sec dwellers. No longer will you be cast aside and disparged.-á |
Aziesta
Sathainn Braithrean Cartel Apocalypse Now.
198
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:47:00 -
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I love the new missions. It's fun to actually have to pay attention, instead of easy-moding through. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 13:54:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:My heard bleeds for the people with an ability to not adapt to change.
Having to use passive Drake or Tengu with officer shield booster isn't adapting. |
Kalen Pavle
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:04:00 -
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I don't see what the big problem is, I used to get bored and aggro entire pockets on purpose anyway. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:07:00 -
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Kalen Pavle wrote:I don't see what the big problem is, I used to get bored and aggro entire pockets on purpose anyway.
I like to do that too sometimes with my passive recharge Drake. It's really bad for actual missioning though. |
baltec1
Bat Country
3163
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:08:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Having to use passive Drake or Tengu with officer shield booster isn't adapting.
Christ I hope you try this. |
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2720
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:09:00 -
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Bienator II wrote:what eve needs are killboards for NPCs. Lets give the best tacklers a little bit fame.
Serpentis hacks. TEST Alliance BEST Alliance |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:10:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:
Having to use passive Drake or Tengu with officer shield booster isn't adapting.
Christ I hope you try this.
We all know that your passive Drake can tank 1300 omni dps but you should know that it's really bad fit. |
Athena Themis
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
95
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:15:00 -
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I think it's great. Now missions are risky enough to justify the rewards. Before they were a complete joke. |
Funky Lazers
Shin-Ra Ltd
38
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:17:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:My heard bleeds for the people with an ability to not adapt to change. Having to use passive Drake or Tengu with officer shield booster isn't adapting. Just go and try BR version of The Blockade with your Drake and you know. Or Sansha version of The Blockade with any turret ship (other than Mach).
Yup, none of them even tried those missions. Adapting is what my sig says.
Also is it now impossible for a new char to do 70% of missions. Confirmed it few hrs ago with a newb friend. "Adapt" - means you have to stop using the ship you like and start flying Drake or Tengu like the rest nullbear newbs. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:22:00 -
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Athena Themis wrote:I think it's great. Now missions are risky enough to justify the rewards. Before they were a complete joke.
I don't know about others but I almost lost faction fitted Abso today in Break Their Will. |
Beckie DeLey
Living From Scraps
171
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:27:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Athena Themis wrote:I think it's great. Now missions are risky enough to justify the rewards. Before they were a complete joke. I don't know about others but I almost lost faction fitted Abso today in Break Their Will.
So you agree with the post you quoted, then? That's cool. So... i started an industry blog at www.derbk.com/eve There i am preparing a guide to all things related to manufacturing. Check it out!
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:37:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Athena Themis wrote:I think it's great. Now missions are risky enough to justify the rewards. Before they were a complete joke. I don't know about others but I almost lost faction fitted Abso today in Break Their Will. So you agree with the post you quoted, then? That's cool.
I'm talking about level 3 version, not level 4.
So, solution is to lose dps and increase tank. And I so wanted to get rid off those cap stable setups... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1870
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:40:00 -
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Beckie DeLey wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Athena Themis wrote:I think it's great. Now missions are risky enough to justify the rewards. Before they were a complete joke. I don't know about others but I almost lost faction fitted Abso today in Break Their Will. So you agree with the post you quoted, then? That's cool. Heh heh.. surprise ~ Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10641
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:45:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Having to use passive Drake or Tengu with officer shield booster isn't adapting. GǪand as a curious coincidence, what people are saying is that you should adapt GÇö not that you should use an officer-fitted PST Drake or Tengu.
Funky Lazers wrote:Yup, none of them even tried those missions. Actually, they have. That's why they say you should adapt rather than use bad ships and fittings.
Quote:Also is it now impossible for a new char to do 70% of missions. Confirmed it few hrs ago with a newb friend. As another curious coincidence, a new character has access to only about 30% of the missions, so it's not like they're missing out. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:52:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Bienator II wrote:what eve needs are killboards for NPCs. Lets give the best tacklers a little bit fame. Serpentis hacks. works only when a player is involved on the "killer" side. a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
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Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:52:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Having to use passive Drake or Tengu with officer shield booster isn't adapting. GǪand as a curious coincidence, what people are saying is that you should adapt GÇö not that you should use an officer-fitted PST Drake or Tengu.
Before: I didn't have any problems in Sansha level 3 Break Their Will. Now: I had to warp out twice. Got some structure damage since I can't run armor repairer forever (not cap stable).
Having 5 km range with Scorch is great! |
Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
583
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:53:00 -
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CCP has said full room aggro is a bug. CCP has said npcs using ewar full time is a bug.
This has nothing to do with making the missions harder, or nerfing incomes, or trying to force people into pvp. It is simply another case of :CCP: and will be fixed sometime in the next 18 months, if they remember to get to it.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10642
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:57:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Before: I didn't have any problems in Sansha level 3 Break Their Will. Now: I had to warp out twice. Before: I didn't have any problems in any L4s. Now: I don't have any problems in any L4s.
GǪnot even using drones. So no, you don't have to use Drakes and Tengus.
If you're having problems with L3s, I think there's a better place to start looking than the missionsGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 14:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:Before: I didn't have any problems in Sansha level 3 Break Their Will. Now: I had to warp out twice. Before: I didn't have any problems in any L4s. Now: I don't have any problems in any L4s. GǪnot even using drones. So no, you don't have to use Drakes and Tengus. If you're having problems with L3s, I think there's a better place to start looking than the missionsGǪ
Go try Sansha version of level 4 The Blockade with any turret ship other than Mack*.
*= exluding Mach since ramming technique still works.
And I don't have problems in level 3s since I do those in AFs and T1 cruisers. |
Azrael Dinn
The 20th Legion Mildly Sober
19
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:08:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:My heard bleeds for the people with an ability to not adapt to change. Having to use passive Drake or Tengu with officer shield booster isn't adapting. Just go and try BR version of The Blockade with your Drake and you know. Or Sansha version of The Blockade with any turret ship (other than Mach).
Making your ship better isn't adapting? wth is it then? If a ship X doesn't work you choose ship Y and so on. It's that easy. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:09:00 -
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Azrael Dinn wrote:Jorma Morkkis wrote:baltec1 wrote:My heard bleeds for the people with an ability to not adapt to change. Having to use passive Drake or Tengu with officer shield booster isn't adapting. Just go and try BR version of The Blockade with your Drake and you know. Or Sansha version of The Blockade with any turret ship (other than Mach). Making your ship better isn't adapting? wth is it then?
Losing 100 dps from my 600+ dps Abso and adding third hardener is "making my ship better"? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10642
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:10:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:Go try Sansha version of level 4 The Blockade with any turret ship other than Mack*. No. Why should I use a suboptimal ship?
Quote:And I don't have problems in level 3s since I do those in AFs and T1 cruisers. By your own account, have problems in L3s since you do them in battleships. Back to lying, are we? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Jorma Morkkis
State War Academy Caldari State
238
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:14:00 -
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Tippia wrote:No. Why should I use a suboptimal ship?
So, you're suggesting adapting and switching to Tengu?
Tippia wrote:By your own account, have problems in L3s since you do them in battleships. Back to lying, are we?
Link and quote. Where I said I do level 3s in battleship? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10642
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:17:00 -
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Jorma Morkkis wrote:So, you're suggesting adapting and switching to Tengu? No. I'm suggesting you use a Mach or some other high-speed/close-range ship. Or something with missiles. Or something with drones. Or anything, really, that doesn't directly feed the weakness the rats are meant to exploit.
Quote:Link and quote. Where I said I do level 3s in battleship? Right. I read it as Abaddon, but it was actually something much sturdier than that. Still not an AF or a T1 cruiser, so you're still lying. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Lord Tempist
UnLimited Liability Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.12.09 15:18:00 -
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Change is the only Constant. I am readjusting my gaming habits to fit the current Mission running environment. I am not running any missions until they fix this. Simple and easy response to it all, no? |
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