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riker	Posted - 2005.05.13 23:31:00 - [61] HUmm mabye u are all blind but he did say he tried to convo but no response and it was not the first time.. and who put them on kos list if eversor ( i belive he said it ) they are not kos.. unless they fly w/ pirats. Sooo if they dont fly with them then they should not be kos simple.. sooo then to that matter occ or what ever corp shot at kiyoshis corp is pirateing .. IF they are not KOS nor in PA then pa shot on a neutral witch in my book means they are pirating in ecp... HUMMMMMMMMM well lets ask the reall pirates.. MOO/evol / bob ahh mega.. am i correct in saying if they are not kos nor in alliance they are neutral .... and if soo being a neutral they fired on them witch makes them pirates well all i got to say to end this post is ....... YAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR-pa learn like you are going to live forever, live like you are going to die tomorrow. Go ahead an hit me, AND my 20 hard hitting pipe carring pep's will hit back.
Richard Masterson	Posted - 2005.05.14 00:04:00 - [62] Shout out to my boys in OCC. Ya'll know you lub me. Rich
KIAInkZ	Posted - 2005.05.14 00:56:00 - [63] calling people pirates is so last year. --- Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk
Shittake	Posted - 2005.05.14 01:08:00 - [64] I have known OCC now for over 18 months, from way back when I was in the NVA, then PA. And recently I have worked by their side in various roles and trust them implicitely. They have never shot me. They are some of the most honorable and nicest folks you will ever meet and I'm willing to bet that there was some sort of provocation which caused them to shoot you. Hell this post makes me want to shoot you. I trust OCC and know that they are NOT pirates of any sort. Perhaps you're the problem, because OCC is not.
NoobMiner	Posted - 2005.05.14 01:56:00 - [65] For a bunch of guys who claim to be antipirate they sure do have a lot of inncidents. Still havent heard why their alliance rep told them that they were in positive standings yet shot at them anyways.
Cochise	Posted - 2005.05.14 02:29:00 - [66] Originally by: Dafuzz Cochise, it is YARRRR. Well damn it was my first YARRRRR so excuse me.
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2005.05.14 03:48:00 - [67] <3 you miss you blow some sh&% up for me guys! _________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2005.05.14 03:56:00 - [68] sig is so broken /cry _________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You
SweatySack	Posted - 2005.05.14 06:19:00 - [69] Even tho I dont want to add to the flame fest...I think I should give some support to kiyoshi here. My corp has been fired on many times by OCC. We have probly gone back and forth with standings 5 times since we moved back up north. However, no accidents have happened in a long time, about a month. I no longer really have any problem with PA, and I wouldnt call OCC a pirate corp by any means. They just need to learn when not to shoot people.
ParMizaN	Posted - 2005.05.14 06:39:00 - [70] sweaty you got ur name back! wewt! um yeh occ .. um hi ------------------ Run and fall or stand in line, in the end what's your's is mine
ZelRox	Posted - 2005.05.14 07:16:00 - [71] Originally by: Cochise Originally by: Dafuzz Cochise, it is YARRRR. Well damn it was my first YARRRRR so excuse me. We have to work on that ---------------------- I wanna tuc tuc ..
AHMEFRICKINEYES	Posted - 2005.05.14 07:43:00 - [72] Edited by: AHMEFRICKINEYES on 14/05/2005 07:45:32 Originally by: Iyam Urmastr This entire thread is such a joke. OCC pirates? ROFL. Its funny that I haver never heard a peep from Kiyoshi Aphelion or anyone from The Praetorian Guard about anything before. Typically if any of my guys fire on anyone they shouldn't, I hear about it. We kill pirates, not pirate ourselves. Flying with known pirates (Polytope) isn't healthy in EC btw. Our negative standing towards you probably has something to do with it. Next time, grow some ********* and give me a convo in person. . PLYT 4tw I have seen PLYT in EC-P8R and they let me past ever time. I find them very plesant people. I dont however like the PA, IRON, G camps. They kill me becuase they know what am i gona do.
The Cursed	Posted - 2005.05.14 07:44:00 - [73] Originally by: Mindblank Atm the North is a very unstable region where new corps pop up all the time and allegiances change very quickly. The PA does not shoot neutrals in Pure Blind unless fired upon first, or the neutral is pirating. If you have complaints about getting engaged by PA forces bring it to our attention here: http://www.thephoenixalliance.org/Forums/viewforum.php?f=11 Thank you. What about shoting neutral in tribute space????? OCC Bad BOys!!!! Member of GODS!! Beer em Good!!!!!!!
Heritor	Posted - 2005.05.14 07:55:00 - [74] Originally by: Iyam Urmastr This entire thread is such a joke. OCC pirates? ROFL. Its funny that I haver never heard a peep from Kiyoshi Aphelion or anyone from The Praetorian Guard about anything before. Typically if any of my guys fire on anyone they shouldn't, I hear about it. We kill pirates, not pirate ourselves. Flying with known pirates (Polytope) isn't healthy in EC btw. Our negative standing towards you probably has something to do with it. Next time, grow some ********* and give me a convo in person. You accuse Polytope of being pirates, where did this come from and what evidence can you show to support such a claim. There is nobody on the forums claiming Polytope has aggressed against neutrals or attacked anybody with +ve standing. I claim you are pirates, from what I can read in this thread is my offer of proof. I welcome the proof or valid reasons why you state/imply on this thread of Polytope being pirates. I doubt you can offer any valid reason for you claim and would like an apologie for this ridiculous stance you have taken and hope you and your corp "OCC" are not being led round by the nose by some alliance.
Dragothmar	Posted - 2005.05.14 08:16:00 - [75] Originally by: Heritor You accuse Polytope of being pirates, where did this come from and what evidence can you show to support such a claim. There is nobody on the forums claiming Polytope has aggressed against neutrals or attacked anybody with +ve standing. I claim you are pirates, from what I can read in this thread is my offer of proof. I welcome the proof or valid reasons why you state/imply on this thread of Polytope being pirates. I doubt you can offer any valid reason for you claim and would like an apologie for this ridiculous stance you have taken and hope you and your corp "OCC" are not being led round by the nose by some alliance. Oh dear. Another person who thinks all that is written on the forums is gospel-like in its truth and completeness. Do you people actually play the game? Or do you just like to talk about it? Another thing: why can't people make up their own minds? Why do people rely on one person like Mr. Judge here to say 'Oh yes - OCC are definitely pirates - they aren't proving otherwise in this thread, are they?'? It really ***es me off considering I've never heard of him before. OK - Here's what I'll do. Next time I help camp EC-P8R I'll post a list of all the peeps we DON'T* kill just to help ease your mind about us being pirates. Of course this being the forums I could write prettymuch whatever I like to prove we aren't, ooops. Oh well there you have it: THAT is the true nature of the forums... Now go play some eve m'kay? Or alternatively why don't you apply to a corp in PA, play with us, camp with us and join in on the fun and quietly form your own opinion. Then keep it to yourself and treasure it - because it would be FAR more valuable than the one you've just pulled out. Drago out. Wesside? Nah, NOOOORTHSIIIIHEEEEEED in da house!
teh pR3acH3r	Posted - 2005.05.14 08:40:00 - [76] They call me overpowered because im an undead rogue. Go figure. _________________________________ Indefinately MIA Former CEO Occassus Republica - Military Division Leader Founding members of the Venal Alliance You'll Find Religion When I Find You
Heritor	Posted - 2005.05.14 10:05:00 - [77] Edited by: Heritor on 14/05/2005 10:10:34 As you have quoted me (Heritor) in your post I suspect you are replying to my post. Quote: Oh dear. Another person who thinks all that is written on the forums is gospel-like in its truth and completeness. No Quote: Do you people actually play the game? Yes Quote: Or do you just like to talk about it? Yes, but not all the time. Quote: Another thing: why can't people make up their own minds? Why do people rely on one person like Mr. Judge here to say 'Oh yes - OCC are definitely pirates - they aren't proving otherwise in this thread, are they?'? It really **es me off considering I've never heard of him before. I think people can make up there own minds I can only draw a conclusion from my experiances and I think OCC are pirates and it seems others do to. They claim PLYT are pirates on this forum using this media and I feel it neccasary to reply in like wise manner. I have never heard of you before either but will take time to read your post and reply to it and answer your points as best I can. Quote:** OK - Here's what I'll do. Next time I help camp EC-P8R I'll post a list of all the peeps we DON'T kill just to help ease your mind about us being pirates. Of course this being the forums I could write prettymuch whatever I like to prove we aren't, ooops. Oh well there you have it: THAT is the true nature of the forums... Now go play some eve m'kay? I have never claimed that your corp (The Predators) are pirates but if you feel that posting lists makes me feel beter go right ahead. You can write pretty much what ever you want to and I will show enough respect for as to believe you have written what you belive to be true and not malicious lies. Quote: Or alternatively why don't you apply to a corp in PA, play with us, camp with us and join in on the fun and quietly form your own opinion. Then keep it to yourself and treasure it - because it would be FAR more valuable than the one you've just pulled out. I do not think that you are the type of guys I would like to spend time with and I and my corp members would find camping gates not to our taste. Although you do not value my opinion I thank you for yours. I would be interested in why OCC think that Polytope are pirates.
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.05.14 10:07:00 - [78] Edited by: Darko1107 on 14/05/2005 10:10:56 Originally by: Heritor Originally by: Iyam Urmastr This entire thread is such a joke. OCC pirates? ROFL. Its funny that I haver never heard a peep from Kiyoshi Aphelion or anyone from The Praetorian Guard about anything before. Typically if any of my guys fire on anyone they shouldn't, I hear about it. We kill pirates, not pirate ourselves. Flying with known pirates (Polytope) isn't healthy in EC btw. Our negative standing towards you probably has something to do with it. Next time, grow some ********* and give me a convo in person. You accuse Polytope of being pirates, where did this come from and what evidence can you show to support such a claim. There is nobody on the forums claiming Polytope has aggressed against neutrals or attacked anybody with +ve standing. I claim you are pirates, from what I can read in this thread is my offer of proof. I welcome the proof or valid reasons why you state/imply on this thread of Polytope being pirates. I doubt you can offer any valid reason for you claim and would like an apologie for this ridiculous stance you have taken and hope you and your corp "OCC" are not being led round by the nose by some alliance. You are pirates, or bad guys, whatever you want to call it. About 2 months back you popped a hemp hauler in O-N, for no reason (this hauler was friendly to iron), it had a control tower in it. You decided you were guna steal it at all costs, there were about 6 of u in O-N, 1 blackbird, 1 thorax, the rest mostly frigs - a tipical gank squad. So you put a bubble up on the EWOK gate in O-N and began camping presumably until your hauler arrived to steal a POS off a neutral corp. Shame we jumped in and popped everything you had. You said nothing during the whole thing, no1 was contacted, you left it completely, so you were obviously fine with the fact that we were shooting you because your pirates. OCC are probly just shooting you because they asked us if you were hostile and i said yes. We stick together up here, we have the same enemies, it makes things much easier.
riker	Posted - 2005.05.14 10:22:00 - [79] LOL well lets flam some more.. FLAME!!!!! humm yea i belive (after being in va-nva- pa) that most are good ppl.. some bad but most good and i would still call friends.. BUt in my own opinion i belive occ pirate . Why do i say this.. well sh* after reading this forum post and from past exp w/ themm and well yea seeing some of them in tribute gate camping w/ KNOWN PIRATES (CELTS)killing neutrals. This is why i say what i say, and it is my opinion and my alone... SOO all u that get yoru panties in a wad over it,, GET A LIFE... U guys finally got caught doing what most ppl in eve doo soo live up to what u did, and let all of us fourm wh*s move on to somthing else. Just my 2cents.. have a nice day.. learn like you are going to live forever, live like you are going to die tomorrow. Go ahead an hit me, AND my 20 hard hitting pipe carring pep's will hit back.
Heritor	Posted - 2005.05.14 10:50:00 - [80] Quote: You are pirates, or bad guys, whatever you want to call it. About 2 months back you popped a hemp hauler in O-N, for no reason (this hauler was friendly to iron), it had a control tower in it. That is not correct, but we did pop a HEMP hauler indirect response to your gate ganking at EC and shooting and taking down our haulers as well as many other that are friendly to PLYT and so called neutral to you! Quote: You decided you were going steal it at all costs, No, this is not true, a complete fabrication. Quote: There were about 6 of u in O-N, 1 blackbird, 1 thorax, the rest mostly frigs - a tipical gank squad. So you put a bubble up on the EWOK gate in O-N and began camping presumably until your hauler arrived to steal a POS off a neutral corp. Shame we jumped in and popped everything you had. That bubble was up before we took down the HEMP hauler, we had no interest in the POS that is why we left in it the cans. The cans could have easily been destroyed if it was thought neccasary. You did not pop every thing we had. This is another fabrication, all you managed to take down was a blackbird. Quote: You said nothing during the whole thing, no1 was contacted, you left it completely, so you were obviously fine with the fact that we were shooting you because your pirates. That is correct, no one was contacted cause experince has taught us that PA dosn't want to be talked to! A warning was issued to all the guys at the gate who was camping EC (Mainly Exodus) that I would retaliate in what ever way was possible if you shot at anymore PLYT haulers. All I recieved was the bird, so much for first contact.
Dragothmar	Posted - 2005.05.14 10:58:00 - [81] Edited by: Dragothmar on 14/05/2005 10:59:29 Originally by: Heritor Edited by: Heritor on 14/05/2005 10:10:34 As you have quoted me (Heritor) in your post I suspect you are replying to my post. 10/10 Originally by: Heritor No Nice monosyllabic answer, going well here. Originally by: Heritor Yes Another one, goody. Ever heard of the term 'rhetoric'? Obviously not. Originally by: Heritor Yes, but not all the time. See above. Yawn. Originally by: Heritor I think people can make up there own minds I can only draw a conclusion from my experiances and I think OCC are pirates and it seems others do to. They claim PLYT are pirates on this forum using this media and I feel it neccasary to reply in like wise manner. First off; no you obviously don't because you just stated your opinion as a fact and are therefore trying to get as many people to believe you as possible. Secondly your 'experiances' (sic) are yours alone. Other people have had positive experiences with OCC, are you saying that because no-one in the forums have said that 'OCC didn't gank me' they are, by definition, pirates? Oh wait you don't get rhetoric, here's your answer: yes you are. PA didn't start this thread by the way, and we've only mentioned you once or twice this thread. If that's inconveniencing your gank squads then I'd better apologize on behalf of all PA: Sorry. Phew that was difficult. Originally by: Heretard I have never heard of you before either but will take time to read your post and reply to it and answer your points as best I can. Sigh. My 'points' are that you have no experience with the internal workings of PA and you're a member of polytope. You're hardly going to put forward an unbiased opinion on us are you? And likewise, by the way, but we've never pretended that our opinions are completely unbiased towards you. The fact our allies are having problems with you is enough. Originally by: Heritor I have never claimed that your corp (The Predators) are pirates but if you feel that posting lists makes me feel beter go right ahead. One for all and all for one? That's what an alliance means. I guess that's another alien concept for you. Oh and that's a count of sarcasm you've missed there, yours is plainly evident though. Originally by: Heritor You can write pretty much what ever you want to and I will show enough respect for as to believe you have written what you belive to be true and not malicious lies. Wow, very thickly veiled reverse accusation there. I'm not accusing you of being a liar. I'm accusing you of publicly airing your opinion on us using no basis in fact other than we have apparently accidentally destroyed someone's ship and they have posted on the public forums. Next time you destroy a ship I'll pay you the same courtesy then and use that as evidence that you are pirates. Oh wait no I won't, because PA doesn't have to justify its diplomatic stances to corporations to the whole of the eve-adoring public. Originally by: Dragothmar Or alternatively why don't you apply to a corp in PA, play with us, camp with us and join in on the fun and quietly form your own opinion. Then keep it to yourself and treasure it - because it would be FAR more valuable than the one you've just pulled out. Originally by: Heritor I do not think that you are the type of guys I would like to spend time with and I and my corp members would find camping gates not to our taste. If you mean, by that, that we don't gank n00bs and steal CT's from peeps then perhaps we aren't. If on the other hand you meant we're 'not nice people' then 1) you wouldn't know and 2) you obviously have no grasp of what sort of people would form a large alliance and bother trying to run an empire. Hey why not just gank people all day everywhere. Originally by: Heritor Although you do not value my opinion I thank you for yours. Hey you're welcome - see above for seconds! Originally by: Heritor I would be interested in why OCC think that Polytope are pirates. Correction. Why PA think you're pirates. Ask someone ingame, rather than posting it all here. Well that's me done for now.
Dragothmar	Posted - 2005.05.14 11:03:00 - [82] Originally by: Heritor That is correct, no one was contacted cause experince has taught us that PA dosn't want to be talked to! He's in EXODUS dude, not PA... Wesside? Nah, NOOOORTHSIIIIHEEEEEED in da house!
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.05.14 11:15:00 - [83] No Heritor, we never shot you before that, i had never even heard of you before that, and dont say you were just guna leave the CONTROL TOWER, because that would be just stupid from any angle. End Of. Im not bothered with you at -10, quite frankly your not threat to Iron/G/PA in anyway. You can continue whinging about who the bad guys and good guys are, we all know the truth. We have been fighting for the north for months/years. Against nearly every "pirate" faction you can think of.
MegaJ	Posted - 2005.05.14 11:22:00 - [84] PA r nobs and so r UCC [-SAS-] on Eve-Kills
Dragothmar	Posted - 2005.05.14 11:26:00 - [85] Originally by: MegaJ PA r nobs and so r UCC Hurhurhur Wesside? Nah, NOOOORTHSIIIIHEEEEEED in da house!
Heritor	Posted - 2005.05.14 11:34:00 - [86] Originally by: Darko1107 No Heritor, we never shot you before that, i had never even heard of you before that, and dont say you were just guna leave the CONTROL TOWER, because that would be just stupid from any angle. End Of. Im not bothered with you at -10, quite frankly your not threat to Iron/G/PA in anyway. You can continue whinging about who the bad guys and good guys are, we all know the truth. We have been fighting for the north for months/years. Against nearly every "pirate" faction you can think of. I did not mean I personally got fired upon it was one of PLYT hauler's and haulers from other friendly corps. I did say I was going to leave the Control Tower and I did leave the Control Tower....so what you should have said was that I am stupid for leaving it Its regretfull that you see my post as being a "whine" this was never my intention only to add what I know about OCC and their ways. Why even mention the fact that we are at -10 to your corp or the fact that a 12 man mining corp is no threat to 3 alliances ???
Darko1107	Posted - 2005.05.14 11:42:00 - [87] Edited by: Darko1107 on 14/05/2005 11:42:17 Thats what i meant, i dont think we ever shot your haulers before that, as i said, we didnt even know who u were, that could have lead to mistakes, but that is no reason to start attacking us and camping key systems with bubbles..... If you were upset about it you could have contacted some1, but you didnt, you just started attacking. But I have yet to see any evidence of any of your haulers being downed before that, so atm it just looks like u decided to attack us for no reason. If you have the evidence or whatever, talk to me ingame.(I will take u off block ), I wont be reading this thread anymore.
Edoo	Posted - 2005.05.14 14:15:00 - [88] Originally by: Heritor Originally by: Darko1107 No Heritor, we never shot you before that, i had never even heard of you before that, and dont say you were just guna leave the CONTROL TOWER, because that would be just stupid from any angle. End Of. Im not bothered with you at -10, quite frankly your not threat to Iron/G/PA in anyway. You can continue whinging about who the bad guys and good guys are, we all know the truth. We have been fighting for the north for months/years. Against nearly every "pirate" faction you can think of. I did not mean I personally got fired upon it was one of PLYT hauler's and haulers from other friendly corps. I did say I was going to leave the Control Tower and I did leave the Control Tower....so what you should have said was that I am stupid for leaving it Its regretfull that you see my post as being a "whine" this was never my intention only to add what I know about OCC and their ways. Why even mention the fact that we are at -10 to your corp or the fact that a 12 man mining corp is no threat to 3 alliances ??? You were set to -10 because your innocent 'mining'corp attacked our CEO several times in pure blind.
Heritor	Posted - 2005.05.14 14:50:00 - [89] Originally by: Edoo You were set to -10 because your innocent 'mining'corp attacked our CEO several times in pure blind. As you are a member of PA you would obviously be set to -ve standings and this is why your CEO came under fire
Edoo	Posted - 2005.05.14 15:56:00 - [90] Originally by: Heritor Originally by: Edoo You were set to -10 because your innocent 'mining'corp attacked our CEO several times in pure blind. As you are a member of PA you would obviously be set to -ve standings and this is why your CEO came under fire this was a while back. you guys were asking to be friends while still shooting.

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