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Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:09:00 -
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Checked forums and failheap and there hasn't been much on it. What are some of your suggestions? |
Aducat Ragnarson
Cult of the Black Goat
Dark Taboo
34
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:12:00 -
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Fly around and kill people.
Maybe you could clarify your question, are you looking for fits, for tactics, for areas where you can fly a destroyer for solo pvp?
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Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation
25
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:13:00 -
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whoops, my mistake.
I was asking for fits. |
Aria Ta'Rohk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.09 18:24:00 -
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Talwar: Fly like a kite
Highs:
Light Missile Launcher II x7 (Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile)
Mids:
Limited 1mn Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Lows:
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Nano fiber Internal Structure II
Rig:
You can use rigor and flare catalyst rigs for more derps, or Extender rigs w/ an EM one for more tank |
Morgan Torry
Arma Purgatorium
Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2012.12.09 19:12:00 -
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Aria Ta'Rohk wrote:Talwar: Fly like a kite
Highs:
Light Missile Launcher II x7 (Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile)
Mids:
Limited 1mn Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Lows:
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Nano fiber Internal Structure II
Rig:
You can use rigor and flare catalyst rigs for more derps, or Extender rigs w/ an EM one for more tank
Requires an expensive CPU implant with all at level V, 34 CPU over. With two CPU rigs it fits though. Can't fit any launcher rigs with that.
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Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation
25
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Posted - 2012.12.09 19:25:00 -
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If I'm up against frigs, wouldn't rockets be better? |
Cephelange du'Krevviq
Hephaestus LLC
Get Off My Lawn
84
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Posted - 2012.12.09 19:26:00 -
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Hakaimono wrote:If I'm up against frigs, wouldn't rockets be better?
If you can web them, yes. |
Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation
25
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Posted - 2012.12.09 19:35:00 -
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Cephelange du'Krevviq wrote:Hakaimono wrote:If I'm up against frigs, wouldn't rockets be better? If you can web them, yes.
May have to drop extender and use shield extender rigs
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Ayeshah Volfield
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.12.09 21:24:00 -
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[Talwar, Rockets]
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Warp Scrambler II
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Rocket
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Nova Rocket
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Warhead Flare Catalyst I
Maybe something like this ?
I enjoyed eve until I went to the official forums and found out that the game is dying and I'm the reason why... |
Schmata Bastanold
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
228
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Posted - 2012.12.09 22:17:00 -
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Isn't using extender rigs kind of pointless without shield extender? I mean rig extends shield by a percentage of it, same as trimarks do with armor plates. X percent more of not-very-much is still not very much. Just saying...
I am not my skills but...
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schmata_Bastanold |
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Ayeshah Volfield
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
29
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Posted - 2012.12.09 22:22:00 -
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Schmata Bastanold wrote:Isn't using extender rigs kind of pointless without shield extender? I mean rig extends shield by a percentage of it, same as trimarks do with armor plates. X percent more of not-very-much is still not very much. Just saying...
Am having issues choosing rigs on it.
Would anti-em/th or agility/speed be better ?
Thanks in advance for answer.
I enjoyed eve until I went to the official forums and found out that the game is dying and I'm the reason why... |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
267
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Posted - 2012.12.09 22:30:00 -
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The new dessies can't fit LML's properly without completely gimping the fit
I'd suggest rockets. |
Hakaimono
Stillwater Corporation
25
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Posted - 2012.12.10 01:47:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:The new dessies can't fit LML's properly without completely gimping the fit
I'd suggest rockets.
Rockets would be just what I need for anti-frig warfare/
Really curious about rigs though. Flares and Rigors? |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
267
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Posted - 2012.12.10 03:20:00 -
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Hakaimono wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:The new dessies can't fit LML's properly without completely gimping the fit
I'd suggest rockets. Rockets would be just what I need for anti-frig warfare/ Really curious about rigs though. Flares and Rigors?
I'd go for one range rig and two polycarbons personally.. |
Tursarius
Embers Children
TOHA Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 04:41:00 -
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[Talwar, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Cross-linked Bolt Array I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Small Processor Overclocking Unit II
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
rig is 20M in jita |
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
54
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Posted - 2012.12.10 14:24:00 -
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Tursarius wrote:[Talwar, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Micro Auxiliary Power Core II
Cross-linked Bolt Array I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Faint Warp Disruptor I
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Nova Fury Light Missile
Small Processor Overclocking Unit II
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Small Core Defense Field Extender I
rig is 20M in jita
20mil for that rig, 5 for ship, 10 for fit.
Could have bought a Hawk, that kites with Javelin and actually has a tank with a small sig. |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
197
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Posted - 2012.12.10 18:35:00 -
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Talwar is ****, find another ship to fly
Seriously, it's really really bad
QCATs is recruiting
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=146180 |
Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
Damu'Khonde
525
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Posted - 2012.12.10 19:01:00 -
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Use rockets and put some range rigs on and you can get ~23km range and good damage. You'll deal reduced damage to AB frigates, but they'll never catch you anyway so you can take your sweet time killing them. Use your third midslot for a TP and take MWD/long point otherwise.
You'll be made of ******* paper but you'll have a ton of damage at a high range while still being able to point things. Assuming proper piloting, you should be able to do enough damage to stuff trying to get close to you that your relative squishiness shouldn't matter too much. Tanky kiting frigates (eg harpy) may be a problem. |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
268
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Posted - 2012.12.10 19:40:00 -
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Princess Nexxala wrote:Talwar is ****, find another ship to fly
Seriously, it's really really bad
Stick to blobbing. |
Kokoro Tsukaya
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:01:00 -
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7x Light Missle Launcher II
1x Target Painter (any T1 variety)
1x Warp Disruptor II
1x 1mn MWD
1x BCS or Damage Control (depends on if you want more gank or slight buffer)
2x Nano II
3x Capacitor Control Circuit
Goes around 2,000 m/s cold for around 6 minutes before running out of cap. Wrecks most AFs and close range destroyers. Obviously has major issues with survivability, but hey, that's kiting. Only been out in it a few times and a killed a hawk and numerous AC thrashers so far. |
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Fireflyb1
Walden 2.0
15
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:02:00 -
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Rocket launchers in high, full tackle + ab in mids, armor buffer in low, armor rigs... slow as **** but if you can get a frigate or somethign to come close, I imagine it would do nicely :)
Has quite the EHP... |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
268
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Posted - 2012.12.10 20:31:00 -
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Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:7x Light Missle Launcher II
1x Target Painter (any T1 variety)
1x Warp Disruptor II
1x 1mn MWD
1x BCS or Damage Control (depends on if you want more gank or slight buffer)
2x Nano II
3x Capacitor Control Circuit
Goes around 2,000 m/s cold for around 6 minutes before running out of cap. Wrecks most AFs and close range destroyers. Obviously has major issues with survivability, but hey, that's kiting. Only been out in it a few times and a killed a hawk and numerous AC thrashers so far.
Learn 2 rig. |
Zarnak Wulf
Imperial Outlaws
767
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Posted - 2012.12.10 21:43:00 -
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The Talwar and the Corax are more fleet ships then solo vessels. The Corax with just a MWD gets a blistering ~1440m/s. The Talwar comes in at 1700 m/s. If you fit them to kite you're killing a bit if their DPS. Good luck running opponents down too. They also can not hit the DPS extremes of most of the other destroyers.
The Talwar does consistent damage for a great distance. It's benefit is that is smaller themn most other mwd'ing Dessies out there. You can bring it on your small gang roam and not be laughed at. |
Kokoro Tsukaya
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.10 23:01:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:7x Light Missle Launcher II
1x Target Painter (any T1 variety)
1x Warp Disruptor II
1x 1mn MWD
1x BCS or Damage Control (depends on if you want more gank or slight buffer)
2x Nano II
3x Capacitor Control Circuit
Goes around 2,000 m/s cold for around 6 minutes before running out of cap. Wrecks most AFs and close range destroyers. Obviously has major issues with survivability, but hey, that's kiting. Only been out in it a few times and a killed a hawk and numerous AC thrashers so far. Learn 2 rig.
Great insight. What would you rig it with? Not enough CPU for any launcher rigs. Shield rigs? Not enough shield to matter. Armor rigs? same. Astro rigs? also pointless.
I'd rather run CCCs and not have to worry about running my MWD non-stop to keep range.
You're in Shadow Cartel, so I suppose I would think you'd know what you're talking about, but when you don't make any suggestions, it's hard to take your post seriously. |
Cage Man
Evil Guinea Pigs
33
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Posted - 2012.12.10 23:35:00 -
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Aria Ta'Rohk wrote:Talwar: Fly like a kite
Highs:
Light Missile Launcher II x7 (Caldari Navy Inferno Light Missile)
Mids:
Limited 1mn Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
Lows:
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Nano fiber Internal Structure II
Rig:
You can use rigor and flare catalyst rigs for more derps, or Extender rigs w/ an EM one for more tank
24km point 30km plus damage.. not sure the web is going to help.. maybe tracking disruption or sensor damps instead of web
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Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
294
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Posted - 2012.12.11 00:04:00 -
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Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:7x Light Missle Launcher II
1x Target Painter (any T1 variety)
1x Warp Disruptor II
1x 1mn MWD
1x BCS or Damage Control (depends on if you want more gank or slight buffer)
2x Nano II
3x Capacitor Control Circuit
Goes around 2,000 m/s cold for around 6 minutes before running out of cap. Wrecks most AFs and close range destroyers. Obviously has major issues with survivability, but hey, that's kiting. Only been out in it a few times and a killed a hawk and numerous AC thrashers so far.
Finally someone that's actually flown it and not EFT-warrioring...
Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!" |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
269
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Posted - 2012.12.11 03:30:00 -
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Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:7x Light Missle Launcher II
1x Target Painter (any T1 variety)
1x Warp Disruptor II
1x 1mn MWD
1x BCS or Damage Control (depends on if you want more gank or slight buffer)
2x Nano II
3x Capacitor Control Circuit
Goes around 2,000 m/s cold for around 6 minutes before running out of cap. Wrecks most AFs and close range destroyers. Obviously has major issues with survivability, but hey, that's kiting. Only been out in it a few times and a killed a hawk and numerous AC thrashers so far. Learn 2 rig. Great insight. What would you rig it with? Not enough CPU for any launcher rigs. Shield rigs? Not enough shield to matter. Armor rigs? same. Astro rigs? also pointless. I'd rather run CCCs and not have to worry about running my MWD non-stop to keep range. You're in Shadow Cartel, so I suppose I would think you'd know what you're talking about, but when you don't make any suggestions, it's hard to take your post seriously.
Thats because i'm a bit of a ****..
1. Your tank doesn't matter argument is wrong, Its a destroyer, its slower then a nano'd caracal, you are going to get caught at some point. thus you should have a tank (Unless your plan is to stay at 50 km and abuse LML's range while something else tackles? but i generally don't like to count on that). I would at least DCU tank it.
2. I don't think the new destroyers have the fittings for lml, i tried to make it work but gave up in the end. Any lml launcher fit you make ends up being severly gimped due to 90 of the ships fittings going only into that. With the range bonus Javelin rockets outdps lml up to 22km, and with a range rig that turns to 26km. Also rockets hit small moving targets better which is handy seeing how many AB frigs are out there right now.
So for short, i would go 1-2 polycarbons and 1-2 range rigs.. But then i would also completely change the fit :P |
Kokoro Tsukaya
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2012.12.11 15:12:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:7x Light Missle Launcher II
1x Target Painter (any T1 variety)
1x Warp Disruptor II
1x 1mn MWD
1x BCS or Damage Control (depends on if you want more gank or slight buffer)
2x Nano II
3x Capacitor Control Circuit
Goes around 2,000 m/s cold for around 6 minutes before running out of cap. Wrecks most AFs and close range destroyers. Obviously has major issues with survivability, but hey, that's kiting. Only been out in it a few times and a killed a hawk and numerous AC thrashers so far. Learn 2 rig. Great insight. What would you rig it with? Not enough CPU for any launcher rigs. Shield rigs? Not enough shield to matter. Armor rigs? same. Astro rigs? also pointless. I'd rather run CCCs and not have to worry about running my MWD non-stop to keep range. You're in Shadow Cartel, so I suppose I would think you'd know what you're talking about, but when you don't make any suggestions, it's hard to take your post seriously. Thats because i'm a bit of a ****.. 1. Your tank doesn't matter argument is wrong, Its a destroyer, its slower then a nano'd caracal, you are going to get caught at some point. thus you should have a tank (Unless your plan is to stay at 50 km and abuse LML's range while something else tackles? but i generally don't like to count on that). I would at least DCU tank it. 2. I don't think the new destroyers have the fittings for lml, i tried to make it work but gave up in the end. Any lml launcher fit you make ends up being severly gimped due to 90 of the ships fittings going only into that. With the range bonus Javelin rockets outdps lml up to 22km, and with a range rig that turns to 26km. Also rockets hit small moving targets better which is handy seeing how many AB frigs are out there right now. So for short, i would go 1-2 polycarbons and 1-2 range rigs.. But then i would also completely change the fit :P
Ok, makes sense. But if I get caught by a nano caracal, I'm going down anyways. For almost all kiting fits, if you get within scram/web range, you're probably going to go down. Was just offering a fit I've had moderate success with. I do like the Javelin rockets thought though and I'm going to give that a try. Thank you for your constructive criticism ;) |
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
276
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Posted - 2012.12.11 18:57:00 -
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Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:Garviel Tarrant wrote:Kokoro Tsukaya wrote:7x Light Missle Launcher II
1x Target Painter (any T1 variety)
1x Warp Disruptor II
1x 1mn MWD
1x BCS or Damage Control (depends on if you want more gank or slight buffer)
2x Nano II
3x Capacitor Control Circuit
Goes around 2,000 m/s cold for around 6 minutes before running out of cap. Wrecks most AFs and close range destroyers. Obviously has major issues with survivability, but hey, that's kiting. Only been out in it a few times and a killed a hawk and numerous AC thrashers so far. Learn 2 rig. Great insight. What would you rig it with? Not enough CPU for any launcher rigs. Shield rigs? Not enough shield to matter. Armor rigs? same. Astro rigs? also pointless. I'd rather run CCCs and not have to worry about running my MWD non-stop to keep range. You're in Shadow Cartel, so I suppose I would think you'd know what you're talking about, but when you don't make any suggestions, it's hard to take your post seriously. Thats because i'm a bit of a ****.. 1. Your tank doesn't matter argument is wrong, Its a destroyer, its slower then a nano'd caracal, you are going to get caught at some point. thus you should have a tank (Unless your plan is to stay at 50 km and abuse LML's range while something else tackles? but i generally don't like to count on that). I would at least DCU tank it. 2. I don't think the new destroyers have the fittings for lml, i tried to make it work but gave up in the end. Any lml launcher fit you make ends up being severly gimped due to 90 of the ships fittings going only into that. With the range bonus Javelin rockets outdps lml up to 22km, and with a range rig that turns to 26km. Also rockets hit small moving targets better which is handy seeing how many AB frigs are out there right now. So for short, i would go 1-2 polycarbons and 1-2 range rigs.. But then i would also completely change the fit :P Ok, makes sense. But if I get caught by a nano caracal, I'm going down anyways. For almost all kiting fits, if you get within scram/web range, you're probably going to go down. Was just offering a fit I've had moderate success with. I do like the Javelin rockets thought though and I'm going to give that a try. Thank you for your constructive criticism ;)
Ohh of course, i mentioned the caracal just to emphasize just HOW slow dessies are now. No caracal is going to have a scram anyways.
But having that tank will be very nice if you for example, get a DD right on top of you. |
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