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takedoom
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 12:02:00 -
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You should of posted this a few days ago before I started playing eve again. THEN MAYBE I WOULD OF KNOWN HERPICANES suck now. http://spinthatdamnship.ytmnd.com/
I am not a thief. I am a treasure hunter. |
Disastro
Wrecking Shots Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.12.19 12:43:00 -
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Un Sanyo wrote:Great post, thumbs up for putting one together.
I'm interested in why pirates stress honouring ransoms so much. I mean sure in some cases there's not much else to do once you collect the isk or assets and chances are slim at best to get it again from the same target if you do not honor ransom the first time. But what if you're there just for the tears, damage and bragging rights? Why not blow up the poor bastard anyway? That'll bring double the tears. At least..
Actually you would be surprised. I have collected ransoms from the same target twice in the same day before. Certainly many times from the same pilot. Some folks are just not that observant of where they are in eve when traveling and dont realize that they are crossing the same system where they were caught before. Or they just dont care.
However, that being said, I am not always in the mood to look for ransoms. If I dont ask for one then the target is not getting one. Sometimes in the past we demanded ransoms that could not possibly be paid "i.e give us your monocle or you die",
If you ask for it and receive it I believe in honoring it. And generally its only demanded when we have the pod trapped. The ships gonna die no matter what. |
Peri Simone
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:22:00 -
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Section 13 needs moar Rifters.
Otherwise we approve.
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.20 02:36:00 -
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I wish I could ransom but I get so excited I finally caught something that I forget "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Aria Ta'Rohk
Bear Bumpers United
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Posted - 2012.12.20 04:20:00 -
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Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote:I wish I could ransom but I get so excited I finally caught something that I forget "GUYS GUYS I caught a... POOF!" I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears |
W0lf Crendraven
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2012.12.20 09:08:00 -
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If you want to earn isk via piracy (and dont do anything else for isk) join neg teng/tundragon or some other no risk corp!!
Or join some highsec suicide ganking corp!
Thats pretty much what there is to piracy, the traditional roaming and ransoming targets isnt really valid anymore (as in piracy = earning isk not as in piracy=actual pvp)! |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.12.20 10:36:00 -
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Are you planning to do some kind of "encyclopaedia piratica" in pdf-format like the Pilot handbook?? If you compile all the posts together with some graphics and screenshots that could be THE training handbook one would recommend warmly to a new recruit for cold long nights in front of the screen...
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2012.12.20 10:40:00 -
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W0lf Crendraven wrote:If you want to earn isk via piracy (and dont do anything else for isk) join neg teng/tundragon or some other no risk corp!!
Or join some highsec suicide ganking corp!
Thats pretty much what there is to piracy, the traditional roaming and ransoming targets isnt really valid anymore (as in piracy = earning isk not as in piracy=actual pvp)!
I have a different approach. In my view roaming is "hunt to kill". Ransoming is something you can do in a situation where you control the environment and can take the time to negotiate.
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Solomar Espersei
Quality Assurance
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Posted - 2012.12.20 17:57:00 -
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Epic thread. Have some "likes".
I think it's funny how people's sense of honor in this game is so varied. The OP tells a story about ganking a carrier (not sure if pulled into his/her corp to do so or not) through chicanery, encourages Scamming as a principle way of earning ISK, yet somehow, profiting from Scamming Ransoms is BADGäó. During my long association with Suddenly Ninjas, I've seen some countless billions made via this scam and yet, people keep paying. I can totally see E Honor pirates who stick to it (and more power to them if that's how they wish to play), but for the run of the mill scum, you're missing out on some pretty crazy ISKies. A scam is a scam is a scam. Quality Assurance RECRUITING OPEN https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=176314&find=unread |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2012.12.21 01:46:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:Are you planning to do some kind of "encyclopaedia piratica" in pdf-format like the Pilot handbook?? If you compile all the posts together with some graphics and screenshots that could be THE training handbook one would recommend warmly to a new recruit for cold long nights in front of the screen...
It had not crossed my mind before as this guide was just my own rough draft on covering broad issues with Piracy as a whole. I suppose if people thought it a good idea I could do it. I'm assuming Adobe easy enough to make it with? This is also a slow ongoing project when I have time to write it.
I was also going to mention any other Pirates who have other information to add please feel free to contribute and if you are a player looking for more information on this topic feel free to ask questions. The purpose of this thread is for a meaningful discussion among the dishonorable. If you guys want this added as a sticky feel free to request it.
I'll start working on the permanent .PDF tonight. Bare with me though because I have a hectic work schedule and that is why updates are slow. |
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Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2012.12.21 08:03:00 -
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Version 1.0 of Encyclopaedia Piratica is ready for download! Please be patient as this is an ongoing guide and will be an evolving project. Thank You!
http://www.2shared.com/document/8Gb_03L8/encyclopaedia_piratica.html |
Taiko Igunen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:02:00 -
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Very informative, indeed. I'm new to EVE (5mil SP) and found my place in the Ninja business (my regards to Solomar) but I want to expand my fun rides in the near future. What ship would you recommend for the following task:
Ransoming lvl4 MR's in hi-sec. I'm already quite experienced in scanning down MR's in level 4 missions - never lost a ship during my ninja fun rides and made around 250 mil ISK so far. Now there are occasions when all those NI Ravens actually shoot at me ... oooooh, and how I would love to switch to a Cruiser or BC to hold 'em and squeeze 'em. I already have a Drake but I still lack the skills to deal dmg.
Should I train on with my Drake or would I benefit in using a Raven or even a Scorp? (Caldari ships pls ^^) The plan would really be just to jump in, landing right next to them, point, dmg, ransom if possible and get out quick.
Here's to you, here's to me, friends forever we will be ... and if we ever disagree, f*** you, and here's to me.Cheers! |
Aria Ta'Rohk
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:37:00 -
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Fly a Hawk. Surprise them with your ridonculous tank and slowly wittle them down I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears |
Taiko Igunen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.21 19:19:00 -
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Sorry, but the idea was to "get out quick" again. Wouldn't the slow down-wittling give my customer too much time to aquire reinforcements? THAT could lead to an unsatisfying outcome. ^^ Here's to you, here's to me, friends forever we will be ... and if we ever disagree, f*** you, and here's to me.Cheers! |
Aria Ta'Rohk
Pandemic Plexers
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Posted - 2012.12.22 02:51:00 -
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Ridonculously tank reinforcements while slowly wittling down said target. Until cap boosters run out, theeeen your dead . Honestly, if you want to stay Caldari, use a HAM Caracal while you skill for your Drake more. I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears |
Brink Albosa
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
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Posted - 2012.12.22 07:29:00 -
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Ahh yes, I started my career in New Eden out as a ninja salvager myself. Man.. the tears, THE TEARS!!
Those were good times. |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2012.12.22 19:43:00 -
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Taiko Igunen wrote:Sorry, but the idea was to "get out quick" again. Wouldn't the slow down-wittling give my customer too much time to aquire reinforcements? THAT could lead to an unsatisfying outcome. ^^
A Drake is probably one ship you don't want to train for if you want to get out "quick." The only relative fitting for a Drake now is a nano HAM Drake and requires T2 launchers to even be slightly effective. Honestly with it's slow locking time and mediocre DPS I wouldn't train for a Drake.
Instead (even with 5mil SP) train for a Thorax. It's very easy to fit, and even T2 blasters do not take that long to train for and T1 named are on par for the most part. CCP has buffed cruisers considerably and the Thorax is a great little ship to fly. Even taking on bigger ships you can get under their guns or aka speed tank slower tracking weapons.
If you are going after Carebears they simply won't know how to respond. Simply pop their drones first while pulsing your MWD. Remember you want to keep up an orbit around the target at around 1-3km (again blaster fit) while you whittle down the target.
You are doing upwards of nearly 600 DPS in a cruiser no less. Speed is your friend. And since you are about to do 2891 M/S overloaded (2028 regular) it is very very quick. This idea is to get in and gtfo as quickly as possible. |
Aria Ta'Rohk
Umkhonto We Sizwe
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Posted - 2012.12.25 20:40:00 -
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An AB shield Thorax could work as well. Take less damage from missiles by having a higher velocity than normal w/o a bloated sig (maybe a little from the shields). Essentially you have 2 tanks as long as you fit a DC. Your shields, and then tha rediculously hardy Gallente structure. I am thinking of changing my training from Minmatar to Gallente just for the Thorax. I'll take 2 carebears to go, with extra tears |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.25 20:42:00 -
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Aria Ta'Rohk wrote: rediculously hardy Gallente structure.
giggidy "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Etherealclams
Clams ate my Narwhal
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Posted - 2012.12.25 22:08:00 -
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Wonderful guide. It's pretty and easy to read. (a¦á_a¦â) -á(GîÉGûá_Gûá) (a¦á_a¦á) GÖ¬ GÖ½ GÖ¬ GÖ½ |
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Taiko Igunen
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.29 23:06:00 -
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Tara Read wrote: Simply pop their drones first while pulsing your MWD. Remember you want to keep up an orbit around the target at around 1-3km (again blaster fit) while you whittle down the target.
Won't my increased sig blow my speed tank? (concerning hi-sec careberry harvest this should still be an adequate question for this thread, I hope ^^) Here's to you, here's to me, friends forever we will be ... and if we ever disagree, f*** you, and here's to me.Cheers! |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2012.12.31 09:17:00 -
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Taiko Igunen wrote:Tara Read wrote: Simply pop their drones first while pulsing your MWD. Remember you want to keep up an orbit around the target at around 1-3km (again blaster fit) while you whittle down the target.
Won't my increased sig blow my speed tank? (concerning hi-sec careberry harvest this should still be an adequate question for this thread, I hope ^^)
You need to pick your targets carefully. Killing pve fitted ships should not be too difficult. Sig radius is something to consider however if you are for example orbiting under a Megathrons optimal (which is around 4500 km) doing 2000 MS those guns won't track you for jack.
We are also speaking about pulsing which means going green on a module then red as soon as it's activated. Do not wait for the module to cycle. You still get the effect as if the mod was on. Simply keep an eye on when your speed drops. Also my apologies to everyone for the lack of an update. Work has been very hectic with the holidays and I had an unexpected tragedy occur with a close friend of mine.
As soon as I have time I will begin working on more of an update with (hopefully) more detailed screenshots and such of combat related topics. |
Xylorn Hasher
Sumiyoshi-Kai
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Posted - 2012.12.31 20:03:00 -
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Nice Guide,
Ive checked your Talos fit Tara and i was like O_o
Do you always fly Talos with 0% EMP resist? That's obvious fail fit to me cuz both experienced player or even gate guns will eat you alive in matter of seconds.
All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana-áconsumption. |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2013.01.01 04:45:00 -
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Xylorn Hasher wrote:Nice Guide,
Ive checked your Talos fit Tara and i was like O_o
Do you always fly Talos with 0% EMP resist? That's obvious fail fit to me cuz both experienced player or even gate guns will eat you alive in matter of seconds.
I run 3 large shield rigs (or two shield rigs one em rig) 1 T2 invul as well as 2 meta large shield extenders as well as a dc 2. Dunno what fit you are referring to. Resists on any T3 bc will only get you so far. However in light to gate gun fire it is always best now to have a 400km or so pounce.
All you do in a gang is align. When target is in system burn it, warp off come back. Very simple with new gate mechanics. You can even leave your drones and come back. Just reconnect to them.
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Spar Multendor
Order of Cut-Throats
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Posted - 2013.01.01 20:29:00 -
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good guide for my pups im only gonna say one thing cause i know what happens when someone has opinions... why do u only cover ransoming and scamming? |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2013.01.02 00:39:00 -
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Spar Multendor wrote:good guide for my pups im only gonna say one thing cause i know what happens when someone has opinions... why do u only cover ransoming and scamming?
I have much more to write still. If there is a topic you think should be included please elaborate! |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2013.01.28 14:32:00 -
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Bump
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Naoru Kozan
Shrapnel Magnet
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Posted - 2013.01.28 15:30:00 -
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Very good guide for new pirates. |
Tara Read
The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion.
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Posted - 2013.02.06 10:50:00 -
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Just a simple bump letting everyone know I'm still here. Been busy with Vacation and now work and this flu going around in the States (cough) I'll be working on this as well as a myriad of other projects. |
Wolf Soprano
The Conference Elite Rainbow Dash Friends
1
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Posted - 2013.02.11 06:47:00 -
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Tara Read wrote:Just a simple bump letting everyone know I'm still here. Been busy with Vacation and now work and this flu going around in the States (cough) I'll be working on this as well as a myriad of other projects.
I had a good read.
Thankyou |
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