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Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:15:00 -
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Last night I was mining in a belt and wanted to open one of my friends cargo containers from a rat he killed when we were not in a fleet. I changed my status to open the container and take the items.
With about 1 min left on my suspect count down, I was surrounded and destroyed by a bunch of dudes.
Poor little mining frigate.
I just want to say how cool and fun the crimewatch mechanic is. Of course, it stinks to lose a ship but what a fun way to die.
I just had to say good job CCP on the new system. (being serious not sarcastic) |
Fix Lag
399
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:29:00 -
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You can thank CCP Punkturis and friends for deciding that carebears needed a boost and highsec should police itself. Now instead of flagging a person to another person and a corp, you get flagged to all ~300,000 players in the game. Because, you know, that's like basically the same thing. |
Grohalmatar
The Tuskers
1
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:31:00 -
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Te'bral wrote: . . . when we were not in a fleet. I changed my status to open the container and take the items.
Would he have been flagged if he had been in a fleet? |
Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:36:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:You can thank CCP Punkturis and friends for deciding that carebears needed a boost and highsec should police itself. Now instead of flagging a person to another person and a corp, you get flagged to all ~300,000 players in the game. Because, you know, that's like basically the same thing.
Thank you Punkturis (and friends)!!
I was not sure totally how it worked at first, but I thought it was cool that people were flying around looking for suspects to kill. I mean, it kinda stinks that I had to flag my char to all players in the game just to open a container, but there were other ways to do that without getting flagged.
I just think it brought more dynamics into the game. I am sure not everyone feels the same, but from what I experienced it was pretty cool. |
Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:38:00 -
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Grohalmatar wrote:Te'bral wrote: . . . when we were not in a fleet. I changed my status to open the container and take the items.
Would he have been flagged if he had been in a fleet?
Well, I was in his fleet. But I was not in the fleet when he killed the Rat in the system.
So, if I was in the fleet when he killed the Rat, I would not have been flagged.
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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
268
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:45:00 -
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came in expecting another whine thread - left positively surprised
"Also, your boobs " -á CCP Eterne, 2012
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
10885
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:48:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:came in expecting another whine thread - left positively surprised This.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
581
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Posted - 2012.12.21 14:59:00 -
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The mechanic is there (fleets) to allow you to take things. However as has been said many times, wrecks are tagged with their owner, corp and fleet at creation, so if they were no in a fleet when they popped it, then oh well.
You could always have asked the person to give it you... |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
4070
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:03:00 -
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Te'bral wrote:Fix Lag wrote:You can thank CCP Punkturis and friends for deciding that carebears needed a boost and highsec should police itself. Now instead of flagging a person to another person and a corp, you get flagged to all ~300,000 players in the game. Because, you know, that's like basically the same thing. Thank you Punkturis (and friends)!! I was not sure totally how it worked at first, but I thought it was cool that people were flying around looking for suspects to kill. I mean, it kinda stinks that I had to flag my char to all players in the game just to open a container, but there were other ways to do that without getting flagged. I just think it brought more dynamics into the game. I am sure not everyone feels the same, but from what I experienced it was pretty cool.
as much as I like to get thank yous I can't take credit for this one.. Team Five-0 worked on crimewatch and deserve all the credit
(Team Super Friends, my team, worked on bounties and kill rights) Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
217
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:04:00 -
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Did CCP do away with the "abandon wrecks" option then? Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |
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Fix Lag
399
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:05:00 -
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I stand corrected. |
Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal The Mockers AO
1070
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:13:00 -
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New Crimewatch, Kill rights and Gate Gun mechanics make low sec awesome now.
My favorite thing is to pop a killright on a + sec status guy on a gate cuz he thinks that the gate guns will help kill me if I attack him.
I do want to point out one "abuse" thing I did see however. A tornado was sitting on a gate and he must have had an alt turning his kill right on and off repeatedly. By the time the server saw the killright was active and flagged him as such, it was already gone. Attempting to activate the killright gave an error.
I recommend a killright can only be switched on and off once a minute or something, to avoid abuse of the delay in killrights flagging.
Where I am. |
Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:15:00 -
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Sentient Blade wrote:The mechanic is there (fleets) to allow you to take things. However as has been said many times, wrecks are tagged with their owner, corp and fleet at creation, so if they were no in a fleet when they popped it, then oh well.
You could always have asked the person to give it you...
Yes I was aware and so was he. I just kinda wanted to see what happened and how it worked from a non-textbook scenario. Kinda just wanted to experience how it worked first hand.
I just thought it was a well thought-out idea (mechanic) and saw and experienced the functionality of it.
Since I normally see bashing posts on this and that, I thought it might be refreshing for players and CCP alike to hear a more positive opinion.
Also, no one trashed talked anyone. The people out suspect hunting just said in local " suspect has been terminated", and then we all had a good laugh... (at my expense of course).
Hey, all in all, it is a game and there are things we all like and dislike.
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Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:22:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Te'bral wrote:Fix Lag wrote:You can thank CCP Punkturis and friends for deciding that carebears needed a boost and highsec should police itself. Now instead of flagging a person to another person and a corp, you get flagged to all ~300,000 players in the game. Because, you know, that's like basically the same thing. Thank you Punkturis (and friends)!! I was not sure totally how it worked at first, but I thought it was cool that people were flying around looking for suspects to kill. I mean, it kinda stinks that I had to flag my char to all players in the game just to open a container, but there were other ways to do that without getting flagged. I just think it brought more dynamics into the game. I am sure not everyone feels the same, but from what I experienced it was pretty cool. as much as I like to get thank yous I can't take credit for this one.. Team Five-0 worked on crimewatch and deserve all the credit (Team Super Friends, my team, worked on bounties and kill rights)
Well then,
Thank you Team Five-0 !!
I do think what I have learned and experienced so far is pretty awesome and a good improvement. I mean, just the fact that people are out looking for suspects is cool in itself. I am not sure if they were scanning or cloaked or whatever, but it left me with a warm feeling inside (and a hole in my wallet :)
It inspired me to learn more of the PVP side and start training some more skills to go down that path. I currently do not have many "attack" skills so I was reluctant to undock and do anything. Mostly because it would be fruitless, but like I said it gives me more motivation to try a different side of the game. |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
291
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:37:00 -
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Reminds me of Yahtzee's review of "Guild Wars 2" ... "Forming parties has always been the hardest part of MMORPGs, so they took a novel approach - the whole server is a party and everyone's invited!" EvE Forum Bingo |
Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.21 15:39:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:Reminds me of Yahtzee's review of "Guild Wars 2" ... "Forming parties has always been the hardest part of MMORPGs, so they took a novel approach - the whole server is a party and everyone's invited!"
I have not played Guild Wars 2 (yet) but I have only heard good things about it.
Not sure if you are being sarcastic or not relating it back to EVE though.. |
Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2012.12.21 16:52:00 -
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You know, I was just thinking. Is there a way to duel someone without flagging as a suspexct to everyone?
Like say, a friend and I want to fight one another for practice or see how something functions etc... can that be done without alarming everyone to come and kill me ?
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Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
80
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Posted - 2012.12.21 17:04:00 -
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Te'bral wrote:You know, I was just thinking. Is there a way to duel someone without flagging as a suspexct to everyone?
Nope.
Te'bral wrote:Like say, a friend and I want to fight one another for practice or see how something functions etc...
Make a midwarp bookmark or bookmark some agent mission. Both of you warp there, have your fun, wait till the flag(s) expires and leave the bookmarked site.
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
1517
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Posted - 2012.12.21 17:47:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:You can thank Team Five-0 and friends for deciding that carebears needed a boost and highsec should police itself. Now instead of flagging a person to another person and a corp, you get flagged to all ~300,000 players in the game. Because, you know, that's like basically the same thing. TOTALLY A WONDERFUL AND INSPIRED GAME MECHANIC -áObjects in mirror aren't as red as they appear. |
Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2012.12.21 21:16:00 -
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Sable Moran wrote:Te'bral wrote:You know, I was just thinking. Is there a way to duel someone without flagging as a suspexct to everyone? Nope. Te'bral wrote:Like say, a friend and I want to fight one another for practice or see how something functions etc... Make a midwarp bookmark or bookmark some agent mission. Both of you warp there, have your fun, wait till the flag(s) expires and leave the bookmarked site.
Thanks, yeah that is what I thought. It makes sense, and I am not that crazy about some dueling system.
I was just curious. |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1262
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Posted - 2012.12.21 21:31:00 -
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Back then crimewatch2 was introduced at Fanfest, this comment was made in the forum thread
CCP Greyscale wrote:Can-flipping as-is will be impossible once the safeties are added. People should be able to choose to do dumb things, but they should also have the information they need to figure out that the thing they're doing is dumb.
Duelling we're planning to support with an explicit mechanic rather than the current hacky workaround.
OK, CCP: where is that explicit mechanic? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
Souxie Alduin
Anarchy in the Eve
32
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Posted - 2012.12.21 22:02:00 -
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Can't you just set each other to blue? I always thought you could take from cans belonging to people who have set their standing towards you to max. Maybe I'm wrong. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
293
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Posted - 2012.12.21 22:10:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:You can thank Team Five-0 and friends for deciding that carebears needed a boost and highsec should police itself. Now instead of flagging a person to another person and a corp, you get flagged to all ~300,000 players in the game. Because, you know, that's like basically the same thing. i'm still trying to get why was so much tears and cryes on the forums from those who will be flagged?
Basically it is not so different when you flagged to 1 carebear or to 100000000000..... |
Beekeeper Bob
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
305
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Posted - 2012.12.21 22:18:00 -
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Not buying it...2/10 for reverse whine thread.
Everyone knows that Carebears cry at the drop of a missle.
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.12.21 22:22:00 -
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Beekeeper Bob wrote:Not buying it...2/10 for reverse whine thread. Everyone knows that Carebears cry at the drop of a missle.
Go back to your hole...
I seriously thought it worked very well, and thought the idea of people going around looking for suspects was awesome.
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
523
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Posted - 2012.12.21 22:40:00 -
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Fix Lag wrote:You can thank Team Five-0 and friends for deciding that carebears needed a boost and highsec should police itself. Now instead of flagging a person to another person and a corp, you get flagged to all ~300,000 players in the game. Because, you know, that's like basically the same thing. well this is EvE, as in EVERYONE vs EVERYONE [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
Slavac Stark
Black Rifle Conglomerate
3
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Posted - 2012.12.22 06:03:00 -
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It's quite fun now to go roaming looking for suspects in Highsec.
@CCP_Punk. any ETA on a possible fix for the 'Killright not available' or more importantly pilots with available killrights not showing up in the overlay as they should? |
Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
73
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Posted - 2012.12.22 18:49:00 -
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Souxie Alduin wrote:Can't you just set each other to blue? I always thought you could take from cans belonging to people who have set their standing towards you to max. Maybe I'm wrong.
That doesn't work for wrecks before fleet was created. You CAN release the wrecks however. But that wasn't done. So the looter got flagged.
Not a serious issue the OP is reporting if you read it, he is giving kudos. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details. |
Mars Theran
Pod Kings
514
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Posted - 2012.12.22 19:31:00 -
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Te'bral wrote:Grohalmatar wrote:Te'bral wrote: . . . when we were not in a fleet. I changed my status to open the container and take the items.
Would he have been flagged if he had been in a fleet? Well, I was in his fleet. But I was not in the fleet when he killed the Rat in the system. So, if I was in the fleet when he killed the Rat, I would not have been flagged.
Wrecks can be blued; all he needs to do is right-click one of them and select all in vicinity. That could have been avoided easily.
..also, give people an excuse to shoot your ship and they will. Expect that. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Te'bral
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2012.12.22 21:08:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Souxie Alduin wrote:Can't you just set each other to blue? I always thought you could take from cans belonging to people who have set their standing towards you to max. Maybe I'm wrong. That doesn't work for wrecks before fleet was created. You CAN release the wrecks however. But that wasn't done. So the looter got flagged. Not a serious issue the OP is reporting if you read it, he is giving kudos.
Exactly, I was giving kudos to the mechanic and the suspect chasers... just thought that since I liked how it worked I would say something... nothing less nothing more |
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