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Achika
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Posted - 2005.06.01 12:52:00 -
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Ok, I found this game on the MMORPG.com website, and one of the things it was ravin bout in its reviews (and other sites raved about) was great gaming community.
.. ok where?
I've played this game for bout 2 months now and am interested to know where it is. Hardly anyone talks in this game.. Ive tried starting up a converstation with peeps, but they talk 2 sentences then begin to have 10-30 min delays in their responses after a few words. Ive tried a couple of corporations, and found the chat to either fly by to quickly and never get noticed (because there are like 100+ members).. or get direct opposite and have nobody talk.
I've noticed people dont talk much to Non-Corp mates.. I wish i was wrong.. but it seems that way. I've even tried to join the different chat channels, but alas.. no luck. Only Recruitment Channel and Help Channel where lively. Local Chat is always dead.. even if ya try talkin in it..
~ Where is the community? ~ Where are the people to like to talk, more then 2 sentences? ~ Why does it seem everyone logs on and go immediatly afk?
I am friendly, and chatty.. and i really am enjoying the game. Just would be nice to find the great community that i hear so much about. I would like to talk to other people in the game, other then my corp mates. Though i love talking to my corp mates, its always good to meet new people. =)
*sigh* i know im gonna get flame for this, but i hope i get some input from someone on where the community lies..
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.06.01 12:58:00 -
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Well well.
If your corporations isnt chatty but consists of semi-afk players most of the time, then you as a social player are in the wrong spot.
Get top a corp that is social, uses IRC and Teamspeak as obligatory supplements to ingame chats, and you will find yourself that community corp.
INside the game itself there's isnt that much warmth no, it's only when you get to know your corpmates by talking to them live or having fun with them on irc that you get that community thing going.
As far as the revieuws go, they might be referring to these forums and the fansites mostly. For a medium sized game Eve does have alot of that, and some pretty damn original stuff too. _______________________________________________
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Achika
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Posted - 2005.06.01 13:06:00 -
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Oh ok.. Thank you for responding..
As for TeamSpeak.. thats out of the question, used it for a year or so, then someone decided to hack or whatever, and tracked me down through it, and was at my front door.. Im not putting any faith in TS ever again.. I noticed alot of corps swore by it too..
As far as corps, really i got sick of the silence, and me and a friend made our own so we could use the corp hangers and get a lil quicker along, fairly new so its doesnt have alot of members.. But i was just refering to, talking to other people other then corp mates.
IRC.. i know nothing bout it.. other then its extremely old school.. used it once because Guide Program in Everquest required the use of it for initiation.. other then that, never used to..
Anyhow, thank you again for the information.
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Hulemand
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Posted - 2005.06.01 13:06:00 -
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If you stay around the same system alot you get to know people, or join a mid size corp with around 50 players... If you want it, it's easy to find ;)
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d'hofren
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Posted - 2005.06.01 13:18:00 -
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Edited by: d''hofren on 01/06/2005 13:20:01 I've noticed that the lower the system sec status the more social local is. I've made good friends in very low sec empire. I've often had chats with pirates while i've been safespotted or tucked up in a station. I've chatted with unknown carebears while going about my business.
In safe empire people tend to ignore local. In low sec empire or 0.0 you should be glued to it, checking peoples sec status and bio is you best tool for staying alive.
As to corp chat, It depends on the size of the corp. Many corps have a social channel for chat to keep a decent signal to noise ratio in the "actual" corp channel. My corp's "chat channel" never shuts up. Recent discussions have been would an old mini handle better if you took all the seats out bar the drivers one, how fast can your assualt friggy go, coping with pregnant wives, mother in law jokes, belgian beers, running POS, and sometimes at the weekend you can laugh at someone doing a drunken mining / npc / poor attempt at pvp op!
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Tymeran
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Posted - 2005.06.01 21:41:00 -
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If yer chatty, join the eve-radio channel. insta-friends.
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Andre Ricard
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Posted - 2005.06.01 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Achika
As for TeamSpeak.. thats out of the question, used it for a year or so, then someone decided to hack or whatever, and tracked me down through it, and was at my front door.. Im not putting any faith in TS ever again.. I noticed alot of corps swore by it too..
... hah? That shouldn't be possible, Teamspeak doesn't track player location... are you on dialup or something? The only way I can think they'd get up to your door is if they did a trace on your phoneline or something... --- Justice is the only thing I have left. The lives of thousands be damned. |
Danisis
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Posted - 2005.06.02 00:20:00 -
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I have to agree with Achika on this. Local is dead, corp constists of simple utterances, or is so busy that comments flash by. Even the noob channel - helpful at times - but it gets hijacked by three or four particular characters who get into a completely irrelevant discussion. I was passing a player in .07 space - Jita I think - and I asked a question and he said shut the **** up. Nice. OR there is the super elitism crowd who simply laugh at your noobness when you ask them a question - then proceed to brag. It gets very old, very fast.
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Evad jr
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Posted - 2005.06.02 01:36:00 -
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Space is a cold, dark place. "Chatty" doesn't exactly fit into the vocabulary here
Seriously, this game doesn't attract the type of players that are highly social, because this just isn't a highly social game. There are no wedding ceremonies, no emotes, no food to eat or make, no costumes or outfits for special occasions.
If you are lucky enough to find a corp that fits your social agenda, then you will likely find the rest of the game more enjoyable. But the players that stick with this game are more thinkers and less talkers.
Just an observation....
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Tymeran
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Posted - 2005.06.02 01:39:00 -
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Good call, Evad
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Achika
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Posted - 2005.06.02 01:59:00 -
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Wedding Ceremonies? lol .. Thats not what im talking about when i was looking for a social enviroment. Im just was hoping for a converstation or 2 with people in the system.. while mining or just casual rat killing..
I just think they should take down "Good Community" when most of the people tell you to STFU just because you say hello to them.
Granted, not everyone is friendly.. but i know there has to be some? Game cant be full of sour mouthed lil snots who are all about the toe tag collecting or grand items...?
As for TS .. You can say all you want, Police told me the guy said TS.. and thats enough for me. End Of Story
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Achika
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Posted - 2005.06.02 02:00:00 -
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Oh bout that Eve-Radio...
Exactly how am i supose to join, when it keeps asking a password?
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Tymeran
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Posted - 2005.06.02 02:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tymeran on 02/06/2005 02:21:23 eve radio asks for p/w, eve-radio does not. dont forget the dash, darlin'. =)
if you care to listen, www.eve-radio.com
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Tymeran
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Posted - 2005.06.02 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Tymeran on 02/06/2005 02:22:38 gogo dbl posts
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Luance DeAngeluotti
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Posted - 2005.06.02 10:41:00 -
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Join a friendly channel like Federation RP if you want to be chatty in character :)
Although I am the chatty type too I must confess it is difficult to do smthg other than chatting. Flying difficult missions is out of questions for example. Mining is o.k.
So if you want some roleplaying action once in a while look us up or join the Federation RP or the Gallente channel...
We are recruiting! ---------------------------
[Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
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ImmortaL ZoorZ
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Posted - 2005.06.02 10:48:00 -
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Go to the help channel and just start talking. You dont need to ask questions there just remember to take the replies with a pinch of salt and a sense of humour. I too often find myself talking in corp chat and then checking back and seeing my face just lining up the the entire chat box with no replies .
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MutationZ
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Posted - 2005.06.02 14:20:00 -
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I agree wholeheartely with the low sec comment.
In 1.0 to .7 systems noone looks at local. Go into a .6 or .5 and you can say hi to the ppl in local and usually build up a bit of warm fuzziness that way. The system where I "live" is great.
Same old faces, saying hi and so on. We're never going to become best friends but its a nice social environment.
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Shinshi Casoyako
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Posted - 2005.06.02 14:38:00 -
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I never shut up in local, alliance or corp chat. If possible ill do stuff along with other people like hunting, pvp, mining traveling to the other side of the galaxy to find out that its not that system you needed to go up norht but the system southeast or somethng.
While doing missions I have helped and got helped out a couple of times by great people. I also talked to enemies, got ganked and while being in a pod in safespot talked with the pirates that just shot me.
Miners are most of the time the people who are the least chattable, pvp-ers are usually the most chatable. Mission runners are most of the time to busy and traders are just plain boring =P
If you missed out the chatting so far than you are unlucky.
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Danisis
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Posted - 2005.06.02 17:50:00 -
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Originally by: Evad jr Space is a cold, dark place. "Chatty" doesn't exactly fit into the vocabulary here
Seriously, this game doesn't attract the type of players that are highly social, because this just isn't a highly social game. There are no wedding ceremonies, no emotes, no food to eat or make, no costumes or outfits for special occasions.
If you are lucky enough to find a corp that fits your social agenda, then you will likely find the rest of the game more enjoyable. But the players that stick with this game are more thinkers and less talkers.
Just an observation....
I don't want this game to be the Sims Online for goodness sakes. But saying that this isn't a social game is a crock. All reviews, promos, forum chatters always mention the social aspect of this game saying that the only way to delve into the best parts of the game is to enter the social circles. They say don't just be a PVE person, get involved. Well some of us try and get our asses handed to us in bags.
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Tarm
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Posted - 2005.06.02 17:58:00 -
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I have found that lower security systems tend to create friends better then higher security, simply due to the fact that the same people are there day after day without a huge amount of visitors. Plus, lower sec causes you to band together and defend yourselves from the occasional incursion. I have made many friends simply due to staying in lower security areas for a week or so at a time.
Also, find a corporation that is active in your timezone and that you find interesting (i.e. what their goal is). Industrial corps tend to be fairly non-chatty, PvP corps tend to be a bit rough around the edges (ignore new members). We are more roleplay oriented, so we tend to chat quite a bit. There is a huge community, you are just looking in the wrong places. Stop by an Empire channel sometime (like the Amarr channel) and you'll find others.
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MacMillan
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Posted - 2005.06.02 18:17:00 -
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I have always managed to find a chat. My home system is very vocal in local and I tend to visit the help channels there are a lot of regulars in there that are good fun sometimes.
There are chatty corps out there I have belonged to one before. Dont loose hope you will find em!
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.02 18:34:00 -
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It sounds like you are in high sec systems, in a corp with lots of agent runners. If you want a chatty social corp, don't A) Join an agent running corp, or B) Dont stay in systems like niya/rens where 95% of the people in local are playing eve like its a solo game.
Corp chat rules.
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Sleazy Cabbie
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Posted - 2005.06.03 03:43:00 -
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You were misinformed.
We do not have a "friendly" community, we have a MATURE community, that's very different. I would even describe it as rather anal, they're direct and to the point, and rarely will you just "chit chat" with someone for no reason.
If someone chats you, its because they want something from you.
On local, what you're likely to hear is "omgwtf noob I pwn joo" even from those "mature" pirates playing the game.
Two social outlets you will find in the game is your Corp channel and Eve Radio, that's basically it, everyone else is looking to gank you, sell you something, or ask you to stfu.
All in all, no, I do not consider the Eve community "good." They're mature, bordering on having sticks up their rectums, but there's nothing kind about anybody you will meet.
The devs are good, they talk to the community and play their own game.
The ISD are good, alot of them are experienced players donating their time to teach others.
The players, basically you live or die by your corp, keep your distance from everybody else. Eve Radio crew is fun to chat with, other than that just stay away from other players.
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Hank
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Posted - 2005.06.03 05:24:00 -
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I agree with everyone who suggested the Help channel. I've been playing a long time and I still learn stuff when I'm in there. I open it up thinking I'm just gonna get a quick answer to my question and get out, but I always find myself getting involved in fairly interesting conversations/arguments. Say hi to Helpdesk for me. --- Allah be praised |
Maxine Stirner
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Posted - 2005.06.03 06:14:00 -
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It is a function of the medium that most individuals you encounter will seem (at least initially) highly object-oriented. Talk about a something and you will likely encounter responses more swiftly. You can't approach others through text the same way you can approach them by voice or in person. They are using their logocentric faculties rather than enjoying or entertaining a sense of community. In person I could tell you about the sort of behaviors a salesman deliberately employs (posture mimicry et al), or unconscious courtship movements, or other more obscure modes of dialog, but almost none of that applies in a shared space like EVE. There are patterns of communication and metadialogue to consider however.
Also, most individuals attracted to EVE are probably nerds and likely have some deviations in their communicative or expressive faculties. Since I am a geek, I am attracted to nerds in order to study them in their more native habitats.
I'm just a people watcher of course, none of what I say is based on any hard science or credentialed authority.
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Braaage
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Posted - 2005.06.03 08:31:00 -
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If you can't find anyone to talk to try different region/sector, it maybe that you are hanging out in an unfriendly area. Yulai is always full of chatter, then again it's always full of people :) ___________________________________________ http://www.eve-tutor.com
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Kaal
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Posted - 2005.06.03 14:11:00 -
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Oh and this might actually be the friendly community they're talking about. 26 responds to your question. Speaks for something imo. If you ask for help on local somewhere people somebody usually responds as far as I know. Just to mention something ;)
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Chaoskeeper
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Posted - 2005.06.03 14:52:00 -
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i do chit-chat alot...
for me MMORPG are just chat clients with a nice little game attached... well it's not always nice
so if you want to do some chit-chat, don't convo me.. I'm too perv ... |
Gericault m0id
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Posted - 2005.06.03 16:05:00 -
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As said in previous posts it's mostly about finding the right type of corp. Some large combat-oriented corps that use TS or ventrilo keep chatting to a bare minimum for the simple reason that there are too many 'chatters' and the channels need to be clear in case of combat.
As for local, the same goes here. I know some corps that make a point of NEVER writing anything in local.
I would probably recommend that you join a corp with max. 20 players where the majority of players haven't been playing for that long - so there's people to help you with EVE as well as people that can relate easily.
EVE-radio is, otherwise, a great place to meet people - as long as you don't **** off someone with a pool cue up his/her behind - which happens quite often.
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Danisis
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Posted - 2005.06.03 18:25:00 -
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Originally by: Maxine Stirner It is a function of the medium that most individuals you encounter will seem (at least initially) highly object-oriented. Talk about a something and you will likely encounter responses more swiftly. You can't approach others through text the same way you can approach them by voice or in person. They are using their logocentric faculties rather than enjoying or entertaining a sense of community. In person I could tell you about the sort of behaviors a salesman deliberately employs (posture mimicry et al), or unconscious courtship movements, or other more obscure modes of dialog, but almost none of that applies in a shared space like EVE. There are patterns of communication and metadialogue to consider however.
Also, most individuals attracted to EVE are probably nerds and likely have some deviations in their communicative or expressive faculties. Since I am a geek, I am attracted to nerds in order to study them in their more native habitats.
I'm just a people watcher of course, none of what I say is based on any hard science or credentialed authority.
This is a terrific meta-analysis of human communicative behavior, Maxine. But it still doesn't excuse the A-holeness that pervades certain sectors.
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