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Amataras
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Posted - 2005.06.02 00:40:00 -
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Edited by: Amataras on 02/06/2005 23:48:09 I'm usually on top of what goes on in these forums, but i can't remember seeing this question being asked. Any ideas/guesses on freighter prices? -------------- |
2ippy
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Posted - 2005.06.02 00:45:00 -
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prob looking at 300m easy for 1 atm
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Kresh Vladir
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Posted - 2005.06.02 01:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kresh Vladir on 02/06/2005 01:45:57 650m
i mean they sure will take thw work load off of having pos's no more 6 trips a day just to fule it for 2-3 days :)
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Karrimdra
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Posted - 2005.06.02 01:46:00 -
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noone knows their building requirements and bp prices yet, so you can't really say.
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ollobrains
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Posted - 2005.06.02 01:50:00 -
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all i can say is save up a whole heap of minerals - focus ISK on getting enough to buy a BPO - will we have tech 1 and tech 2 ones as well ?
BPOs well over 4B lets say - pure large alliance purchases.
Mineral requirements well lets think 50M trit , 25-40M pyrite, and on the sliding scale for mega and zyd etc.
Then you have dreadnaughts (titans) could be a lot required there to. Better get mining i guess. Minerals costs could see a limited spike.
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Alain Josviar
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Posted - 2005.06.02 01:59:00 -
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elevenbilliontyeleven!!
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Vivus Mors
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Posted - 2005.06.02 02:36:00 -
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??? these are some awfully generous estimatesà
please remember, they are only a bit larger than many battleships and whatÆs more they are practically hollow inside with no combat intentions of any kind, so their hull defenses (i.e. armor and hull values) are likely to be a tiny fraction of those seen in comparably sized ships like the battleshipsà
what all that adds up to, at least from what I can see, is a ship that would most likely cost significantly less than a class 2 battleship and maybe just above a class 1 battleship.
IÆd think that based on the already known amount of material to make similarly sized ships that are much more ôdenseö in materials, that the freighters being of course almost entirely cargo hold would be comparable to a smaller but more ôtightly packedö ship.
Think of it like thisà
If anyone here has ever made folded paper things like airplanes and paper-balloons, itÆs easy to see that while the air plane ends up bigger/longer than the paper-balloon, itÆs also using the same basic material in the same amount, just used differently. The balloon is practically all empty space with a thin hull and the paper air plane is more closely packed.
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Vaaliant
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Posted - 2005.06.02 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Vivus Mors ??? these are some awfully generous estimatesà
please remember, they are only a bit larger than many battleships and whatÆs more they are practically hollow inside with no combat intentions of any kind, so their hull defenses (i.e. armor and hull values) are likely to be a tiny fraction of those seen in comparably sized ships like the battleshipsà
what all that adds up to, at least from what I can see, is a ship that would most likely cost significantly less than a class 2 battleship and maybe just above a class 1 battleship.
IÆd think that based on the already known amount of material to make similarly sized ships that are much more ôdenseö in materials, that the freighters being of course almost entirely cargo hold would be comparable to a smaller but more ôtightly packedö ship.
Think of it like thisà
If anyone here has ever made folded paper things like airplanes and paper-balloons, itÆs easy to see that while the air plane ends up bigger/longer than the paper-balloon, itÆs also using the same basic material in the same amount, just used differently. The balloon is practically all empty space with a thin hull and the paper air plane is more closely packed.
Well if this is anything to go by then someone made a typo regarding how much exact space cargo these suckers can hold. Not saying I'd be unhappy mind you (yes that does say 987,000 m3 of cargo for the amarr freighter and 1 million m3 of cargo for the caldari version).
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Molten Platypii
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Posted - 2005.06.02 03:25:00 -
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Originally by: Vaaliant
Well if this is anything to go by then someone made a typo regarding how much exact space cargo these suckers can hold. Not saying I'd be unhappy mind you (yes that does say 987,000 m3 of cargo for the amarr freighter and 1 million m3 of cargo for the caldari version).
Whoa, where did this information come from?
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Petra Ikonen
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Posted - 2005.06.02 03:45:00 -
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isnt it funny how the caldari one is the best of the bunch AGAIN |
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BlackHawk177
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Posted - 2005.06.02 04:11:00 -
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Originally by: Petra Ikonen isnt it funny how the caldari one is the best of the bunch AGAIN
And it's funnier that the Gallente one is the best right now
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Argun Khan
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Posted - 2005.06.02 04:32:00 -
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Countess Amarisa
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Posted - 2005.06.02 04:51:00 -
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i can't believe a ship have ANY mid or LOW slot, this info is a scam
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TheNecromancer
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Posted - 2005.06.02 05:36:00 -
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150mil isk...is my bet..but if its going to be playermade only (R&D give out bpo)..its going to be like 500mil+.
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Seraph Demon
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Posted - 2005.06.02 06:30:00 -
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Thankfully these will be T1 ships, so the BPs will be distributed by Empire corps, and then the ships themselves will be built by players.
My money is on at 200M isk build-cost, 3B isk BPO cost.
Looking at those stats, the only trade-off is volume vs. speed;
The Caldari Freighter (highest volume) has 2.8% (x1.028) more volume than the minmatar freighter (smallest volume), but the minmatar freighter is 25% (x1.25) faster.
minmatar 4tw!
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Matthew
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Posted - 2005.06.02 07:52:00 -
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Originally by: Molten Platypii
Originally by: Vaaliant
Well if this is anything to go by then someone made a typo regarding how much exact space cargo these suckers can hold. Not saying I'd be unhappy mind you (yes that does say 987,000 m3 of cargo for the amarr freighter and 1 million m3 of cargo for the caldari version).
Whoa, where did this information come from?
Assuming it's actually accurate data, it's probably a data rip from the latest build. Which, of course, isn't the build in which freighters are released. Hence these stats are little more than placeholders for testing. There's no guarantee they're even close to the final values.
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Rick Dentill
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Posted - 2005.06.02 15:35:00 -
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think there maybe some typo in the information from the link people are using. This is a direct quote from the deve blog
"Since the modelling and texturing of the Freighters are done, we figured we'd leak some nice pic's of them. Freighters will be able to move 100.000 M3 but only between stations, so they can't participate in mining operations."
This 100k m3 would constitute circa 20 -25 times the base carrying capacity of the current indie ships. Even marking up the price etc, I can see them being somewhere between 50-100mill isk.
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Vaaliant
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Posted - 2005.06.02 22:10:00 -
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Originally by: Rick Dentill think there maybe some typo in the information from the link people are using. This is a direct quote from the deve blog
"Since the modelling and texturing of the Freighters are done, we figured we'd leak some nice pic's of them. Freighters will be able to move 100.000 M3 but only between stations, so they can't participate in mining operations."
This 100k m3 would constitute circa 20 -25 times the base carrying capacity of the current indie ships. Even marking up the price etc, I can see them being somewhere between 50-100mill isk.
Well even assuming that, we don't know for sure if there are low slots or not. If we take the iteron V's 5 low slots as a possible example then if 100k m3 is the base we could have theoretically close to 370k m3 of cargo space with just partial expanders. More so with locals of course (and even more if t2 expanders come out). So what does that leave us with? Probably a really good possiblity these ships wont have low slots for expanders...what their actual base cargo rate will be is up in the air I guess, and whether training in the freighter skill will increase cargo or maybe speed?
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Firid Soulbane
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Posted - 2005.06.03 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Petra Ikonen isnt it funny how the caldari one is the best of the bunch AGAIN
Yes the Caldari freighter has 7250 m3 more cargo space than the Gallente or 0.007 % more cargo capacity. Gratz.
As goes for the price thats easy since it has a base price around 1 mill :P
Anyways these stats just aint right. This ship has a passenger count (passenger count!!) of 150 which leads me to believe that this might be carrier stats!!! Hence the insane cargoholds meant for holding a fleet. This is just speculations anyways.
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