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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 06:57:36
Oooh.. kk we are actually getting somewhere here.. if I may be politely allowed to suggest some rebuttals to your reasons....
Originally by: Sceartan
I am achieving;
- Not having to go 30+ jumps to a station to log off.
Thats a fair comment, however, in your case, im sure you can dock at the other two stations in catch, or alternatively dock at stations in Stain space. I'll eat my hat if there isnt a friendly station you can dock at half that amount of jumps. But this isnt the main gripe that we are talking of....
Originally by: Sceartan
- Being able to stop playing the 'game' when I want to.
You know thats actually fine when you are done playing the game, i would expect somebody to log. What isnt cool is when fleets log off en masse, cause they got themselves into a sticky situation...
Originally by: Sceartan
We play Eve to have fun, fun consists of shooting.
We don't play Eve to not have fun, not having fun consists of travelling ridiculously far to be able to stop playing a game.
I don't speak for anyone else but if the next hour of my gameplay consisted of staring at the client with nothing happening, then I'd prefer to spend that hour doing something constructive IRL.
K I guess this last statement can be taken as a compliment towards FIX's ability to react to threats quickly and decisively. Maybe a backhanded compliment but hey i'll settle for anything these days.....
May I be so bold as to suggest that your superiors are sending you to locations where you are going to be outnumbered and outgunned with little hope of getting out alive, unless you use methods such as the ESC button. Think about it, if you couldnt press escape at will, would coming to FIX space still be worth it? If the answer is yes... then why the log-off tactics.... ??
Its current worth is still questionable as by your own admissions logging off is something that has to be done on a regular basis.....
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:55:00 -
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/me gives everyone a big group hug...............
(or is that a grope hug???)
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:14:00 -
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Edited by: FalloutBoy on 04/06/2005 07:14:35 Basically this thread boils down to 2 things:
1. Fix wants the coalition to "fight fair" (either blob like them or to fight thier superior numbers)
2. The Coalition thinks the previous idea is stupid and is more than happy to keep looking for stupid fix pilots waiting to be ganked
I think that covers things
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Azmodaus
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:25:00 -
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Would you all just shut the hell up!? If they want to log off they will log off, I say let them. If we want to blob we will blob simple as that. Everything else in this thread is freaking retarded so lets just settle it in-game and be done with it.
Oh and Moderators, this thread should have been locked a long long long time ago so quit stalling and get to it pleeeaaasseee for the love of pete!!
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:25:00 -
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Quote: Thats a fair comment, however, in your case, im sure you can dock at the other two stations in catch, or alternatively dock at stations in Stain space. I'll eat my hat if there isnt a friendly station you can dock at half that amount of jumps. But this isnt the main gripe that we are talking of....
Or I could save myself a 1/2hr round trip of travelling and just log in space . When I'm outnumbered (like for example now with about 8:1) I'm not going to risk moving my ship because it will undoubtely be ganked and I will then have to spend my time buying a new one, fitting it, flying it down, etc when I can just cut my losses and log off.
Quote: You know thats actually fine when you are done playing the game, i would expect somebody to log. What isnt cool is when fleets log off en masse, cause they got themselves into a sticky situation...
This happens repeatidly and has been happening probably since the game came into retail. This entire thread is arguing one playstyle against another. We have no problem logging in space, so we do it to save us real life time. Again, this is a game and I treat it as such. Just because you guys don't, doesn't mean we can't.
Quote: K I guess this last statement can be taken as a compliment towards FIX's ability to react to threats quickly and decisively. Maybe a backhanded compliment but hey i'll settle for anything these days.....
Wasn't intended to be but you can have the compliment, FIX has some good members in their alliance.
Quote: May I be so bold as to suggest that your superiors are sending you to locations where you are going to be outnumbered and outgunned with little hope of getting out alive, unless you use methods such as the ESC button. Think about it, if you couldnt press escape at will, would coming to FIX space still be worth it? If the answer is yes... then why the log-off tactics.... ??
MASS is not a dictatorship, we all voted to come down and do this, so we all knew what we were getting ourselves into. We decided to do this because FIX attacked the Coalition's station in Catch so we are simple retaliating to this agressive act. If we were to not come down simple because you outnumber us then by that reasoning noone should attack people with greater numbers. This then just ends up being school yard bullying keyboard warrior style.
If I couldn't press quit at will I would still have come down to FIX space. The reason for the log-off tactics are as I said before. I don't have copious amounts of real life time to perform time consuming acts like jumping all the way back to a station to quit a game or go on a suicide mission just so I can spend more time getting a new ship and fitting it.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
What he said.....^^
Well seems like we agree on something
I guess all we need now is that shiny metal object that goes ... clickety clink.....
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Azmodaus Would you all just shut the hell up!? If they want to log off they will log off, I say let them. If we want to blob we will blob simple as that. Everything else in this thread is freaking retarded so lets just settle it in-game and be done with it.
He speaks sense. Common sense. You're in my good book
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Azmodaus Would you all just shut the hell up!? If they want to log off they will log off, I say let them. If we want to blob we will blob simple as that. Everything else in this thread is freaking retarded so lets just settle it in-game and be done with it.
Oh and Moderators, this thread should have been locked a long long long time ago so quit stalling and get to it pleeeaaasseee for the love of pete!!
Cookies for the man please :)
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Azmodaus
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:56:00 -
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mmmmmmmm cookies
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Azmodaus mmmmmmmm cookies
i'm hungry
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:20:00 -
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everytime Nez posts, FIX's hard earned respect (yes, I do have respect for you guys) drops by a landslide, atleast in this thread.
I think this thread has run its course and I dont think I have seen so much whinage over the same thing in a while.
and as I said earlier in this thread: quit whining and adapt.
If you went out in smaller squads you *might* actually get a fight, but if you guys sit in 9cg or fat in a 70man blob noone's gonna bother anyways. try a squad of like 3BS a couple of BC's or cruisers and a few frigs, works wonders...
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:23:00 -
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^^ Smart Man
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
everytime Nez posts, FIX's hard earned respect (yes, I do have respect for you guys) drops by a landslide, atleast in this thread.
I think this thread has run its course and I dont think I have seen so much whinage over the same thing in a while.
and as I said earlier in this thread: quit whining and adapt.
Oh noes, Hast the wise has spoken, I think if FIX gave a monkey's crutch what you thought we'd really be in trouble.
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
So go take a running jump and stop being a smart ass Hast....
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Hast
everytime Nez posts, FIX's hard earned respect (yes, I do have respect for you guys) drops by a landslide, atleast in this thread.
I think this thread has run its course and I dont think I have seen so much whinage over the same thing in a while.
and as I said earlier in this thread: quit whining and adapt.
Oh noes, Hast the wise has spoken, I think if FIX gave a monkey's crutch what you thought we'd really be in trouble.
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
So go take a running jump and stop being a smart ass Hast....
I'm not trying to join your little forum flaming ring (been trying hard to stop posting too much). All I'm saying is that both sides should take one step back and a deep breath and then see what fools they are making of them self in this thread. And since you are the most active poster in fix and the biggest flamer in this thread I used you as an example.
all I'm saying is chill out. and all you give back is more flaming
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Oh noes, Hast the wise has spoken, I think if FIX gave a monkey's crutch what you thought we'd really be in trouble.
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
So go take a running jump and stop being a smart ass Hast....
hey nez this is just a shot in the dark but isn't flaiming on the forums a big no no for you guys? I mean FIX does operate by a rule of law you should prolly follow those rules
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
all I'm saying is chill out. and all you give back is more flaming
Don't get all innocent on me now, poke me I'll poke you back....
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Hast
all I'm saying is chill out. and all you give back is more flaming
Don't get all innocent on me now, poke me I'll poke you back....
ok, thats it, I give up.
/me pokes Nez in the eye with a pencil and runs out of this thread
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:36:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 08:39:18
Originally by: FalloutBoy
hey nez this is just a shot in the dark but isn't flaiming on the forums a big no no for you guys?
Now go read the starter post and look for the N.B at the bottom of the thread, this post I started myself, and everything here is my personal opinion and not meant to be a reflection on FIX policy. I post with my main so as to not make the thread redundant with an alt. So you'd better find something better to get a dig at me with...
anybody else wanna dance?
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Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 04/06/2005 08:43:01 Ive read through all 8 pages of this post. My feelings in regards to the use of log off tactics have been expressed through others. I will say this. Use whatever you feel is an advantage, FIX is unflinching in its resolve. You will not stop our everyday routine by using log off tactics deep within our space. We still mine, haul, etc. I enjoy being able to undock and engage the enemy without having to go long distances. I thank you for this. You help our pilots evolve into an even finer war machine.
See you on the Battlefield. Keep the smack down and your guns up.
Elite Storm Commander and CEO Fix Joint Chief of Staff Honored to Serve |
Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 08:38:47
Now go read the starter post and look for the N.B at the bottom of the thread, this post I started myself, and everything here is my personal opinion and not meant to be a reflection on FIX policy. I post with my main so as to not make the thread redundant with an alt. So you'd better find something better to get a dig at me with...
anybody else wanna dance?
Originally by: Nez Perces
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
wich one is it?
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Kujin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kujin on 04/06/2005 08:41:14 funny that this thread took 7 pages till we got to a point where the tactics are being discussed in a "gentlemen" and calm style... I understand, that when i am outnumbered, i rather get with my m8s to a ss and log off b4 i waste my ship/time and money on a game, where i loose all the time..... But when i do this, i should watch my mouth talking stuff like BRING IT !!!! "BRING IT" for me is get into the fight and kill the living sh** out of anything that shows red to me....( my personal opinion)
What i cannot understand is that when the situation is equal, we still see people logging off massively. Well ok, the question here is, what do i expect from my fleet ? Do i want to annoy the enemy like hell, and sometimes get some random kills ?
What about to get us all some more enjoyment,get together and make the map glow , ! Smack down, Guns up !!! (This posts just reflects my own point of view, not the opinion of my Corp or FIX, it was not my intention to flame anyone )
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 08:38:47
Now go read the starter post and look for the N.B at the bottom of the thread, this post I started myself, and everything here is my personal opinion and not meant to be a reflection on FIX policy. I post with my main so as to not make the thread redundant with an alt. So you'd better find something better to get a dig at me with...
anybody else wanna dance?
Originally by: Nez Perces
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
wich one is it?
Huh, which one is what, what in gods name are you blabbering on about? .. your making no sense.....
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
everything here is my personal opinion and not meant to be a reflection on FIX policy.
but because of your position within the alliance and your influence on FIX policy I think your reflecting very well on your alliance
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
but because of your position within the alliance and your influence on FIX policy I think your reflecting very well on your alliance
Understand this Mr. Fallout boy.. :
ITS NONE OF YOUR GODDAM BUSINESS !!!!
Now go back to whatever you were doing before you logged off or whatever you normally do.....
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:55:00 -
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you know nez I think you should calm down your getting a wee bit cranky
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:06:00 -
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Nez seems to be one hell of a stand up guy as far as I have seen and heard.
The topic may be unfortunately chosen at this time, and might have had a better place on other forum sections, but don't go and tell him he's a whiner because of it. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |
Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Anyonefromcoalition
Alright chums, I'm done, let's do this.
LOGOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF JENKINS!
www.hadean.org
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Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 04/06/2005 09:26:11 I would hope that regardless of ones position in an Alliance he/she would be entitled to an opinion or point of view. As a fellow Joint Chief of Staff I am proud to be serving FIX with Nez and to be honest I can understand how one would get frustrated dealing with what most of the EVE Community call lame tactics. Check our killboards, His guns do just as much talking.
Elite Storm Commander and CEO
Fix Joint Chief of Staff Honored to Serve |
Tuscan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tuscan on 04/06/2005 09:25:09 A FIRST FOR ME - I totally 100% agree with Nez.
Expect to die, or run like hell. I'm sure some of the kr0m guys will testify to me (with my old char) running a block of 20+ FA ships in their home system to get home and surviving. That probably sticks in my mind as the most fun I have ever had ingame, running like hell from the enemy is a buzz and everyone shouyld do it. Logging off is lame.
edit - didnt read the last page of flame. QUALITY! Another first - Im actually staying on topic! pwned
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Mindlles on 04/06/2005 09:26:43 Edited by: Mindlles on 04/06/2005 09:26:34 oh **** that, i wont bother to post
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