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PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.01 18:54:00 -
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Black Dawn Rising is a bounty hunting & crimewatch corporation. We are a bunch of dedicated pilots who like to PvP, highly motivated to bring tears to those who really deserve it and expirienced in what we do. We have diplomatic relations with others who share our profession. In order to increase our activity we need your help. We need your Killrights.
Why NOT make a Killright available to public: -Your opponent might just kill himself by using an alt - hence the KR would be "wasted" -You will not know what price to ask for it - hence it will either be too expensive, not gettin used, or too cheap and you won't earn what you could have.
Why sell your killright to Black Dawn Rising: -We put a lot of effort in what we do. We stake out your enemy and once we know what there is to know - we hit. -It is our goal to maximise that loss inflicted on your enemy. A pod kill is highly desired We will not activate the KR for a T1 frigate or empty hauler. -We have the numbers. As to my knowledge we are one of the bigger bounty hunting / crimewatch corporations out there.
The more time we have to execute the KR, the better.
Here a couple of reference kills: http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15727684 http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15724954 http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15660183 http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15656971 (sorry - the redirect does not work somehow, just copy-paste)
How to proceed: 1. Send us an ingame mail containting the killmail (your loss) and the expiration date of your killmail. 2. We will evaluate the information and provide you with an offer (ISK) for the killmail within 48h. If there is no bounty on the targets head, we will ask you to place 10% of the Killrights price on your enemie's head - after all we are bounty hunters 3. If you agree, make the killmail available to us. How can be read here 4. The killright will be activated once your enemy flies a shiny ship. We will unleash hell on your nemesis.
What exeptions are there: -Global criminals - they can be shot anyway, hence we do not need/want to buy a Killright on them. You can send us their name anyway. We might send some people to lock down his system -Low Sec/piracy - it is our goal to also be able to lock down low sec system, and break down gate gamps. Kills on professional pirates would be as juicy, maybe even more, then High sec misfits. But since our numbers aren't high enough for that, these killrights are nothing for us yet.
Why we are doing this / what is there to be gained: -We do our profession primarly for PvP. -To bring some "justice" is a nice addition to being able to PvP. Our lasers will hit those who deserve it. -We to it for profit. We do not want to kill a ship that is barely worth being flown. We want your enemies shiniest ship to burn. And sell the loot of course
We cannot avoid you being blown up. We cannot bring back your ship or modules. We cannot even give you all the ISK that you would need to make up for the losses and the humiliation. But even if we can't succeed in the above - we sure as hell do our best to balance out the losses. If we, and those alike us do our work good, we actually might even succeed in making high sec, again high sec. Help us to achive this task. Help us to help you.
Detail on who to contact can be read in our corp description. |
Count of MonteCylon
MonteCylon Money Acquisition and Demolition Ltd.
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Posted - 2013.01.02 00:22:00 -
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Let us know if this is working out for you since bounty hunting seems like a really difficult occupation to get involved in. Buff Low-Sec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2400257#post2400257 |
Minmatar Citizen160812
The LGBT Last Supper
113
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:36:00 -
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Wouldn't it be easier to just send an alt pod in to low sec to look for part timer fleets then annoy the hell out of them until ya get podded? |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.02 18:32:00 -
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Well hopefully people do get smarter (for their sake). Cuz everyone should have realized that its a big nono to pod someone in low sec, unless you like the door to high sec being closed in front of your nose for the next 30 days.
As to the question about the success of bounty hunting. Crimewatch does work. Our killboard looks a bit like a KB of a NCP 0.0 corp... with the minor difference that it has tons of thrasher kills, with some nice kills inbetween. The juiciy kills, those we get from Killrights, are dropping in. The problem is its mostly still public Killrights. Those Killrights are sometimes put to good use, but most of the time they're just wasted.
The system I've set up provides that I invest a lot of my time into research (locator agent, Killboard checking ect), then the guys still have to log in once in a while (though I wouldn't mind, them logging off for the time being - just to avoid us). I do admit it has its flaws. but it does not completly fail.
We currently have 5 Killrights that were passed on to us. I will monitor and report about. It is my belief that this will bring some change to piracy, ganking and griefing.
Only time will show. |
Xylorn Hasher
Sumiyoshi-Kai
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Posted - 2013.01.03 10:24:00 -
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Try to buy killrights on me.
List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims. My current bounty is around 505m ISK. Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer.
Looking foward to tear you apart. All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana-áconsumption. |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.03 10:51:00 -
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Xylorn Hasher wrote:Try to buy killrights on me. List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims. My current bounty is around 505m ISK. Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer. Looking foward to tear you apart.
You are a good example of how it should not be done... placing 500m ISK on a character is pretty much useless, as the bounty pool will probably never depleat- unless of course you fly a really fancy ship.
Buying a killright on you is not helping as your are gcc flagged anyway, but good luck at this years election of the most sarcastic char... might place well this time
Also I thank you for the self-promotion. I am aware that there are people gate camping 23/7. No need to remind me that. But let me assure you. Retritbution just started off. Give it some time, might look at it differently in a year or so.
Cya around m8. |
Xylorn Hasher
Sumiyoshi-Kai
78
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Posted - 2013.01.03 12:01:00 -
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PO3T wrote:Xylorn Hasher wrote:Try to buy killrights on me. List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims. My current bounty is around 505m ISK. Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer. Looking foward to tear you apart. You are a good example of how it should not be done... placing 500m ISK on a character is pretty much useless, as the bounty pool will probably never depleat- unless of course you fly a really fancy ship. Buying a killright on you is not helping as your are gcc flagged anyway, but good luck at this years election of the most sarcastic char... might place well this time Also I thank you for the self-promotion. I am aware that there are people gate camping 23/7. No need to remind me that. But let me assure you. Retritbution just started off. Give it some time, might look at it differently in a year or so. Cya around m8.
I dont care if someone puts his hard earned ISKies as a bounty on my head all because he lost his Falcon:
Merry ChristmasFrom: Gray DeathStalker To: Telefishopolis, L00K 0UT, Xylorn Hasher
1.3 bil for you guys enjoy,enjoy,enjoy
or just have too much ISKies. Also if you looked at my KB most kills are done solo, except for Thanatos kill hrhrhrhr
All my posts are made shortly after Marihuana-áconsumption. |
CrackhoBiatch
The Corporation Incorporated
4
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Posted - 2013.01.03 15:09:00 -
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Xylorn Hasher wrote:PO3T wrote:Xylorn Hasher wrote:Try to buy killrights on me. List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims. My current bounty is around 505m ISK. Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer. Looking foward to tear you apart. You are a good example of how it should not be done... placing 500m ISK on a character is pretty much useless, as the bounty pool will probably never depleat- unless of course you fly a really fancy ship. Buying a killright on you is not helping as your are gcc flagged anyway, but good luck at this years election of the most sarcastic char... might place well this time Also I thank you for the self-promotion. I am aware that there are people gate camping 23/7. No need to remind me that. But let me assure you. Retritbution just started off. Give it some time, might look at it differently in a year or so. Cya around m8. I dont care if someone puts his hard earned ISKies as a bounty on my head all because he lost his Falcon: Merry ChristmasFrom: Gray DeathStalker To: Telefishopolis, L00K 0UT, Xylorn Hasher 1.3 bil for you guys enjoy,enjoy,enjoy or just have too much ISKies. Also if you looked at my KB most kills are done solo, except for Thanatos kill hrhrhrhr
Dont know who you are, dont care either, but i need to correct you a bit so sorry about that. Most of your kills are most definately NOT solo kills according to your kb.
Edit: looked a bit more into it and it seems all your solo kills that were actually solo kills are on industrials and pods. This kinda makes your the wanker of the week and you should stop posting here! |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.03 15:47:00 -
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I might have to clarify some things here. This post was not inteded to tell the community how good I or my corp is. Its simply a way to inform the bears out there that we are here. We are here in case a. you guys have a KR you want to see being used in a good way b. you want to get into this business
Our corp is by all means not the best PvP corp in Eve. But its a good way to get into PvP. We do operate out of High sec (yes I know the reactions to that). But we are a safe haven for bears who want to get a safe approach to pvp, instead of being thrown into the flames. And my bears to get their kills. The good ones up to 10 kills a day, without losing any ships.
The system we work by, has not been tested yet - after all Retribution has been released a month ago. I want to test it, but for I need killmails.
So please, I wont send you my bears (yet)... all your challanges are absolutely missplaced here Once my guys decide they want do commit mass **** on you, I will gladly show them the way to your system |
VegasMirage
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Posted - 2013.01.04 05:59:00 -
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nice work and great response timing with the new mechanics, goodluck likes watching grown men cry-á (Gň»n+¦Gň¦,) |
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PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.20 17:44:00 -
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Count of MonteCylon wrote:Let us know if this is working out for you since bounty hunting seems like a really difficult occupation to get involved in.
Since I was still owing you an answer... The profession still seems to work. The juicy kills are still rolling in. And although we got wardecced by a merc alliance (outnumbert 2.5 to 1) our losses were minimal.
Most recent example of kills using the crimewatch system:
http://blackdawnrising.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15876840
Our numbers have suffered a bit under the wardec, but people are joining and the idea might actually work out. I do admit: the number of kills we get that way might lower in the near future. But alternative / parallel activities are being set up as well. By now also other corps have been set up - using the same mechanics.
A couple of general flaws with the Killright / crimewatch system: -Killrights on -10.0 sec stat guys = worthless -People using the killright mechanics to scam (put a killright for double the ships value public - using an alt) -Station baiting (of course that was to expect ^^) -Killrights are not as visible as they shold be
Difficulties with "our" way of using the system: -personal user of Killrights works, its just a hell lot of work. And in order to get the guys we'd prolly need masses of KR. So best was is probably to ask for advice (price of KR) then make it public. This increases the probablity of getting the the KR used, and keeps the changes of mis-use low
The system works more or less. Its (as so often) about the people using it, and how, that makes the difference. |
HoleySheet1
Concentrated Evil The Marmite Collective
159
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Posted - 2013.01.20 20:30:00 -
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I have kill rights. Come get me. I like shooting aqua blue ducks. |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.20 20:41:00 -
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Man I was hoping I'd make it through a page without having holy here spamming my posts. Get a hobby m8. Or a life. We know you have killrights on you man... you've been spamming that all over the forum for the past month.
So if this is what you wanna hear: you are a hero. And in every way better then the rest of us. Now pls do something useful, I dunno, like podding yourself. But pls stop the useless bumping. |
HoleySheet1
Concentrated Evil The Marmite Collective
159
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Posted - 2013.01.20 21:15:00 -
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Aqua blue ducks in a barrel. |
Arkenai Wyrnspire
Turalyon Plus
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Posted - 2013.01.20 23:05:00 -
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Bounty hunting... Well, I haven't seen it work yet. If you can make it work effectively that would be a good thing, although I can't really see it happening. Good luck trying though! |
Amun Khonsu
Royal Order of Security Specialists Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.21 11:26:00 -
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I have tons of killrights against me.
Come and get some. Fight them until turmoil is no more and strike terror into their hearts. www.ross-fw.net
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Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2013.01.21 11:50:00 -
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I'll sell you killrights on me for 30 mill a pop ? ^^ |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.21 15:45:00 -
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Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:Bounty hunting... Well, I haven't seen it work yet. If you can make it work effectively that would be a good thing, although I can't really see it happening. Good luck trying though!
Just check some of the kills. Being just moderatly active this month I've make 100 kills. This by simply sitting on a gate I don't know, but to me this looks like "working mechanics". Or let me ask: What is "work effectively" for you? 500 Kills a month? I guess that depends on anyones activity level =) |
Kristopher Rocancourt
Quality Assurance
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Posted - 2013.01.21 16:17:00 -
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Xylorn Hasher wrote:Try to buy killrights on me. List of current killrights avaible can be found here Just check whos POD was popped and contact my victims. My current bounty is around 505m ISK. Location: Hrondedir, Gusandal, Eifer. Looking foward to tear you apart.
Your throbbing massive e-peen is making me wet.
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Emperor Crash Zues
Guns N'Ore
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Posted - 2013.01.21 16:29:00 -
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do you accept just plain kill contracts without a killright? like if we asked you how much for you to hunt down a target and pod them would you do it for a set price or must there be a bounty on there heads? |
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PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.21 17:14:00 -
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Emperor Crash Zues wrote:do you accept just plain kill contracts without a killright? like if we asked you how much for you to hunt down a target and pod them would you do it for a set price or must there be a bounty on there heads?
The idea behind the new killright mechanics and bounty system was not, to become a ganker myself Hell seeing the results of it, it rather turned me off even more...
Our tragets only consist of people who have a killright on them, and if possible the nice addition of a bounty. Of course we get some gankers (-10.0 sec stat - no need for killright) from time to time... but their Thrashers a slippery little buggers
But as direct answer: No we do not gank people |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.21 17:20:00 -
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By the way, I changed the subject... Primary because the sale/buying of KR ain't the primary reason for this post, but the discussion and elaboration of good ways to use the Retribution mechanics...
...and because the direct buying of KR only works if you have 200 active members in corp/alliance, to ensure the hunt of targets (see my post of 2013.01.20 17:44). |
Turgesson
Five-0
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Posted - 2013.01.22 01:09:00 -
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PO3T wrote:Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:Bounty hunting... Well, I haven't seen it work yet. If you can make it work effectively that would be a good thing, although I can't really see it happening. Good luck trying though! Just check some of the kills. Being just moderatly active this month I've make 100 kills. This by simply sitting on a gate I don't know, but to me this looks like "working mechanics". Or let me ask: What is "work effectively" for you? 500 Kills a month? I guess that depends on anyones activity level =)
How can anyone tell if they were killrights or suspect baits? I'm actually just curious if there is a way. I looked at a few of the kills and they look as fishy as a bucket of unwashed hookerpussy. |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.22 12:24:00 -
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Turgesson wrote:PO3T wrote:Arkenai Wyrnspire wrote:Bounty hunting... Well, I haven't seen it work yet. If you can make it work effectively that would be a good thing, although I can't really see it happening. Good luck trying though! Just check some of the kills. Being just moderatly active this month I've make 100 kills. This by simply sitting on a gate I don't know, but to me this looks like "working mechanics". Or let me ask: What is "work effectively" for you? 500 Kills a month? I guess that depends on anyones activity level =) How can anyone tell if they were killrights or suspect baits? I'm actually just curious if there is a way. I looked at a few of the kills and they look as fishy as a bucket of unwashed hookerpussy.
Well on external sites (eve-kill, battleclinic ect) I guess you don't see that... just ingame (having the issuer of the KR in the upper left corner mentioned). But if they'd still be suspect to the whole of EVE and undock in ships worth 1 Bill and more, though not being capabable of tanking &%*WTF DPS... these guys better change profession, and fast. So to get back at your remark: what exactly looks fishy on our kills pls? |
Kalim Dabo
Revolutionary Front New Creation Collective
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Posted - 2013.01.22 13:11:00 -
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Thank you for bringing this service to my attention. I'll start referring all of my victims to you. Good luck in all your endeavors. |
Solstice Project
Highsec Outlaw Elementary School
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Posted - 2013.01.22 15:47:00 -
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Sitting at the gate. Brave warriors........................................ Inappropriate signature removed. Spitfire |
Turgesson
Five-0
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Posted - 2013.01.22 15:54:00 -
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PO3T wrote: Being just moderatly active this month I've make 100 kills. This by simply sitting on a gate I don't know, but to me this looks like "working mechanics". So to get back at your remark: what exactly looks fishy on our kills pls?
Well, you said you made a hundred kills this month using the killright mechanic and just sitting on a gate. The kills I see look like a fleet was involved in a war kill or a bait of some kind with a few outlaw thrashers thrown in.
This one looked legit but falls way short of 100 or a meaningful kill: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18470384
Sorry for the crappy BC link Eve-kill is wonky at the moment...again. |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.22 16:22:00 -
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Of course fleet was involved, what else? If you see the same people on your gate for days you form a fleet with them... Not sure if you read the Dev blogs about Retribution... Someone has a suspect or criminal flag, he is attackable for everyone And having eyes looking out for people with killrights on them in space, is definitly a help...
And to those people above bragging about having killrights on them: please visit us sometime soon. We will make sure your ship will show in these "fishy" kills that were mentioned above.
But anyway. Glad not everyone gets it. That way we get to keep the killratio we have at the moment. |
Turgesson
Five-0
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Posted - 2013.01.23 00:27:00 -
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I understand how they work just fine. It's a shame there is no way to show if some bewb really did go derpin around in a vigilant fitted to the nines with a killright.
What I really mean is, if I were in your shoes rather than using kilrights I would use the global flag to get dummies to take a can at a gate then decloak the legion, point and let my buddies ***** the mail. Do you have somethin juicy showing some rat damage that got plucked out of a mission? Show me a good one like that and I'll drive an alt up there to see the gate thing for myself then come here and bow to the gods of killrights.
Decent kills one way or the other though. I just have a hard time believing the majority of those are KRs rather than suspects. |
PO3T
Black Dawn Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.23 11:11:00 -
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Again, I'm pretty sure you didn't read the Dev blogs to the end. Its not required to kill someone in high sec... The attempt alone is sufficient to issue a killright. Those of course would not show on the killboards, hence you can look as long as you want.
Your sentence is incorrect from the start... or correct, depending on how you look at it ^^ When a killright is activated, the target turns suspect to everyone in space. So in this point you are correct. The targets were all suspect (through a killright though).
Odd cargo can be shown by the way, when the killmail is broken I think (the fits show up in the cargo - no idea why).
Quote: The Kill Rights system allows you to get revenge on another player who has performed a criminal act upon you. This means shooting or otherwise aggressing any of your property in high security space (ships, wrecks, cans), or shooting or otherwise aggressing your pod in low security space. |
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