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Selyra Lin
Perkone Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:28:00 -
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Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff. I try to talk to every possible person in Goon that I can think of and tell them about this and tell all tell me to **** off. Tried to talk to Tector, La Nariz, and a few more.
All I get from La Nariz is a mail saying he has eyes in all over Eve and knows what is going on. Sad part is, he was in the convo with me and the recruiter scammer talking about some capital program they never had.
Now all of a sudden I am back on the recruitment channel seeking a corp and the same scammer using the same name sends me another message asking if I would like to join their corp. I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. That I could use the petition to challenge the warning.
So they are allowed to do whatever they please and say whatever they want and nothing happens, but when someone laughs at them for trying to scam the same person twice I get warned?
Since plex's are considered in game items, that can be bought with real money. Does that fall under fraud? that can be taken to court? Seen a news article a while back where a guy tried to sell a game account online and was scammed out of it and he ended up taking the guy to court, even tho it is against the EULA to sell game accounts, but the judge awarded the case in his favor since real money was involved and made the scammer pay him back.
So since I am from the US and this guy is from the US that means I could possibly seek the same and take it to court? |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1564
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:28:00 -
[2] - Quote
IBTL
Oh and once you convert cash into an ingame item it actually has no value in RL. So no its not fraud. And the relevant laws are in the server location not yours and his. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Steven Seaga1
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
19
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:29:00 -
[3] - Quote
INB4 Rumor thread |
FoxBird Freir
Raven's Flight Nulli Legio
60
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:30:00 -
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I lol'd |
Some Rando
University of Caille Gallente Federation
600
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:30:00 -
[5] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff. lol you can't read. |
Tector
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:33:00 -
[6] - Quote
The really funny part is that our own Wiki tells people that we do not openly recruit or charge security deposits or ask people to hand things over. |
Hannah Flex
Elite Market PvP Consortium
47
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:33:00 -
[7] - Quote
--------groundfloor--------- |
Sandra Vellocet
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
32
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:34:00 -
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CCP pays Goons, |
Roo Gryphon
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:34:00 -
[9] - Quote
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0 |
Obvious Cyno
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:35:00 -
[10] - Quote
I find Goonswarm representatives very respectful when they're scamming. Dont know about anyone else. I guess in the private convo you were quite rude and possibly offensive towards him. |
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Ser Berus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:35:00 -
[11] - Quote
Posting in a thread.
Also, I'd just like to say it's a shame that the mentally ill seem to need to latch on to goonswarm these days to fuel their persecution complexes, and I just hope the OP gets the help that he or she clearly needs. |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1036
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:35:00 -
[12] - Quote
Actually.... I'm a little concerned myself. I was contacted by a GoonWaffe "recruiter" about a month ago. I tend to hold the goons in high regard, but I had to really think about it because he was asking me for a lot (half a billion isk deposit, etc). I got a recruitment code thingy, and haven't heard back from them. I do believe that we have been scammed.... but that's EVE, isn't it? Move on, get new stuff, get over it. I'd like to hear from some Goon leadership next time if they want me to join, and I won't be providing another "deposit" even if it means I don't get in. In the meantime, I'll just stick with an NPC corp, and do my own thing. If I get interested enough, I'll probably start my own. I have the name of the recruiter, and I fully intend to get my revenge when the opportunity arises. That is, of course, if this isn't just a very long wait for the application to process. I'm still waiting to see. Going to give them until the end of January at the latest.
If any forum Goons read this, I would actually really like to join. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
71
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:36:00 -
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Selyra Lin wrote:I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. That I could use the petition to challenge the warning. If you got a warning from a GM about harsh language, then you no doubt used harsh language. Goons often petition such events to generate extra tears, though it's rare that we get confirmation that it worked.
Selyra Lin wrote:Since plex's are considered in game items, that can be bought with real money. Does that fall under fraud? that can be taken to court? Seen a news article a while back where a guy tried to sell a game account online and was scammed out of it and he ended up taking the guy to court, even tho it is against the EULA to sell game accounts, but the judge awarded the case in his favor since real money was involved and made the scammer pay him back.
So since I am from the US and this guy is from the US that means I could possibly seek the same and take it to court?
No, for several reasons, the easiest of which being that I virtually guarantee that La Nariz never told you to buy PLEX to give to him (or to sell to give money to him) and that you did it on your own volition.
Plus, unlike that other supposed case, scamming isn't against the EULA in Eve anyway.
I will now withdraw and munch some popcorn until the thread is locked for posting rumors. You may know me better as Corestwo: https://gate.eveonline.com/Profile/corestwo
This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay. |
Rothana Haldane
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:36:00 -
[14] - Quote
Of course We pay CCP, I pay 14.99 a month. don't you? |
Zain Andreas
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:36:00 -
[15] - Quote
Sorry about the misunderstanding, send me a deposit of 500m isk and I can get your application going again and retreive your stuff. |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
487
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:36:00 -
[16] - Quote
They don't pay CCP any more than the rest of us do. They just third party meta their numbers and act as an off site force. For some reason CCP think Goons do EVE a favor with the way they conduct and project EVE to people who don't play it even though their own website is proof otherwise. Less than 1% of SA forums play EVE and I doubt they retain even half of that 1%.
No, Goons don't pay CCP. They treat them like a tool and why CCP continue to bend over is beyond me. |
Implying Implications
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
281
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:36:00 -
[17] - Quote
You should phone the police and tell them someone stole your internet spaceships. püåpüÉpüàn+P |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1039
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:37:00 -
[18] - Quote
Tector wrote:The really funny part is that our own Wiki tells people that we do not openly recruit or charge security deposits or ask people to hand things over.
I wish I'd read that first. Did you get my in game mail? You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2028
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:37:00 -
[19] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff. I try to talk to every possible person in Goon that I can think of and tell them about this and tell all tell me to **** off. Tried to talk to Tector, La Nariz, and a few more.
All I get from La Nariz is a mail saying he has eyes in all over Eve and knows what is going on. Sad part is, he was in the convo with me and the recruiter scammer talking about some capital program they never had.
Now all of a sudden I am back on the recruitment channel seeking a corp and the same scammer using the same name sends me another message asking if I would like to join their corp. I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. That I could use the petition to challenge the warning.
So they are allowed to do whatever they please and say whatever they want and nothing happens, but when someone laughs at them for trying to scam the same person twice I get warned?
Since plex's are considered in game items, that can be bought with real money. Does that fall under fraud? that can be taken to court? Seen a news article a while back where a guy tried to sell a game account online and was scammed out of it and he ended up taking the guy to court, even tho it is against the EULA to sell game accounts, but the judge awarded the case in his favor since real money was involved and made the scammer pay him back.
So since I am from the US and this guy is from the US that means I could possibly seek the same and take it to court?
I'm sorry to hear that this has happened to you. We are an honourable space alliance that does not condone nor intentionally harbour scammers. This is clearly the work of a spy & he must be found & expelled immediately. Send me a mail with the scammer name attached & 500mil. I will ensure that your assets & isk are returned & have the spy expelled. The Adventures of a Belligerent Undesirable |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6185
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:37:00 -
[20] - Quote
Steven Seaga1 wrote:INB4 Rumor thread
How so? We do pay CCP - same way you do, actually! ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
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Brutus Septimius
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:37:00 -
[21] - Quote
Jules Winnfield wrote:EULA, ************, DID YOU READ IT?
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Gossamer DT
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
100
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:37:00 -
[22] - Quote
over all I give the op 4/10 would have given better, but the I will take you to court man, has been used way to many times. who is your main, and what does he do? |
Tyrone Cashmoney
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:37:00 -
[23] - Quote
Of course we pay CCP. Or PLEX our accounts, which amounts to the same. That's usually how subscription-based MMOs work. |
toniciconic
Eighty Joule Brewery Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:37:00 -
[24] - Quote
Did he tell you to go buy that plex? If not he is not responsible for how you acquire the funds. Also you're probably one of those people that doesn't google something and calls tech support instead. |
Kandrew Dorak
The Graduates RAZOR Alliance
2
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:37:00 -
[25] - Quote
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=goon+recruitment |
Tyrone Cashmoney
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:38:00 -
[26] - Quote
Tyrone Cashmoney wrote:Of course we pay CCP. Or PLEX our accounts, which amounts to the same. That's usually how subscription-based MMOs work.
That was entirely too serious and for that I apologize. |
Mithrawndo
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:38:00 -
[27] - Quote
So you got scammed, then when you came across the scammer later on, you had some... harsh words for them, insulted, swore at, and cursed everyone from them, their cousin, to their mama's toy poodle named Fluffle, they reported you for the harsh language (which is against EULA), and scamming is NOT against the EULA, and somehow you think that the other person is at fault?
Welcome to Eve, 2013, and life.
BTW, wanna join my corp instead? We're hip, cool, laid back. No shenanigans, promise.
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Tyrone Cashmoney
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
99
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:38:00 -
[28] - Quote
ps my check is in the mail ccp
wink wink |
Tector
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
76
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:41:00 -
[29] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Tector wrote:The really funny part is that our own Wiki tells people that we do not openly recruit or charge security deposits or ask people to hand things over. I wish I'd read that first. Did you get my in game mail?
Yes, I checked my evemail shortly after posting that. Sorry for your loss. |
Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:41:00 -
[30] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff. I try to talk to every possible person in Goon that I can think of and tell them about this and tell all tell me to **** off. Tried to talk to Tector, La Nariz, and a few more.
All I get from La Nariz is a mail saying he has eyes in all over Eve and knows what is going on. Sad part is, he was in the convo with me and the recruiter scammer talking about some capital program they never had.
Now all of a sudden I am back on the recruitment channel seeking a corp and the same scammer using the same name sends me another message asking if I would like to join their corp. I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. That I could use the petition to challenge the warning.
So they are allowed to do whatever they please and say whatever they want and nothing happens, but when someone laughs at them for trying to scam the same person twice I get warned?
Since plex's are considered in game items, that can be bought with real money. Does that fall under fraud? that can be taken to court? Seen a news article a while back where a guy tried to sell a game account online and was scammed out of it and he ended up taking the guy to court, even tho it is against the EULA to sell game accounts, but the judge awarded the case in his favor since real money was involved and made the scammer pay him back.
So since I am from the US and this guy is from the US that means I could possibly seek the same and take it to court?
Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux: |
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Arec Bardwin
875
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:41:00 -
[31] - Quote
Posting in goon recruitment scam thread #1 2013. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6185
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:42:00 -
[32] - Quote
Super spikinator wrote:Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux:
Doubt it, but we don't keep score anyway. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Powers Sa
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
515
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:42:00 -
[33] - Quote
What, pray tell, is "GOON", and why does their hard earned subscription money differ any from yours? |
Generic5Guy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:42:00 -
[34] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:
Now all of a sudden I am back on the recruitment channel seeking a corp and the same scammer using the same name sends me another message asking if I would like to join their corp.
Hey, do you want to join our corp? We are seeking experienced cap pilots like your fine self. If you want to make some isk, you can bring down 20 lokis to flip. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2047
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:43:00 -
[35] - Quote
Super spikinator wrote:Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux:
This is clearly nothing but a big misunderstanding. . |
Lykouleon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
582
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:43:00 -
[36] - Quote
Gossamer DT wrote:over all I give the op 4/10 would have given better, but the I will take you to court man, has been used way to many times. Holy heavens have mercy, Gossamer DT making a post with no spelling mistakes. Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD
Also, your boobs :o --áCCP Eterne, 2012.11.05 14:50 |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1039
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:43:00 -
[37] - Quote
Tector wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Tector wrote:The really funny part is that our own Wiki tells people that we do not openly recruit or charge security deposits or ask people to hand things over. I wish I'd read that first. Did you get my in game mail? Yes, I checked my evemail shortly after posting that. Sorry for your loss.
Meh, I'll get over it. It was mostly BPOs, nothing particularly special, and the half a billion isk "deposit". Easily replaced. I'll just kill him eventually, that'll make me happy You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6185
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:43:00 -
[38] - Quote
The process for getting into GoonWaffe is thoroughly documented in the avatar of Something Awful forums user 'vyst', known as "Aryndel Vyst" in EVE. ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:44:00 -
[39] - Quote
This thread seems to be lacking context. Can you give us more details about the characters involved, the sums involved,.the chatlogs so we can see for ourselves whether a prima face case can be made for a real life grid. Also more specificity about the conversation that led to your warning? Enquiring minds want to know. |
Mithrawndo
Thunderwaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:44:00 -
[40] - Quote
Arec Bardwin wrote:Posting in goon recruitment scam thread #1 2013.
And on Jan 1. May many more follow!
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Super spikinator
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:44:00 -
[41] - Quote
Andski wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux: Doubt it, but we don't keep score anyway.
There are bigger suckers out there? I suppose, tears are after all water - they dry out when exposed to time. |
Generic5Guy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:45:00 -
[42] - Quote
Super spikinator wrote:
Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux:
Maybe |
Knox'e
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:46:00 -
[43] - Quote
We do, in fact, pay CCP. It's called a Subscription fee.
We also pay them in laughter and tears of joy. |
Jack Haydn
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:50:00 -
[44] - Quote
Remiel Pollard wrote:Actually.... I'm a little concerned myself. I was contacted by a GoonWaffe "recruiter" about a month ago. I tend to hold the goons in high regard, but I had to really think about it because he was asking me for a lot (half a billion isk deposit, etc). I got a recruitment code thingy, and haven't heard back from them. I do believe that we have been scammed.... but that's EVE, isn't it? Move on, get new stuff, get over it. I'd like to hear from some Goon leadership next time if they want me to join, and I won't be providing another "deposit" even if it means I don't get in. In the meantime, I'll just stick with an NPC corp, and do my own thing. If I get interested enough, I'll probably start my own. I have the name of the recruiter, and I fully intend to get my revenge when the opportunity arises. That is, of course, if this isn't just a very long wait for the application to process. I'm still waiting to see. Going to give them until the end of January at the latest.
If any forum Goons read this, I would actually really like to join.
So torn apart between playing the hard-liner who shrugs it off, moves on and the hopeful boy who still hopes to get candy and asks yet again and again. Lovely! |
EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
403
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:50:00 -
[45] - Quote
z |
Daktar Jaxs
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:51:00 -
[46] - Quote
Lykouleon wrote:Gossamer DT wrote:over all I give the op 4/10 would have given better, but the I will take you to court man, has been used way to many times. Holy heavens have mercy, Gossamer DT making a post with no spelling mistakes.
Ambiguous formatting and punctuation though. I imagine that once, many years ago, Gossamer was a sane and normal person. But then one day while fuelling a tower he just snapped and since that point only those with expert knowledge have been able to understand what he is saying. |
Jack Haydn
Valar Morghulis. Goonswarm Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:51:00 -
[47] - Quote
0 |
SpoonRECKLESS
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:52:00 -
[48] - Quote
Goons scammed me too. I wanted to join, but they put me in there pet alliance. Can you believe this I am in TEST now of!! Worst bible camp recruitment ever!!!Hurrhurrhurr, never trust anyone in eve man. |
Xtek Hemah
Viziam Amarr Empire
16
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:53:00 -
[49] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff
You beautiful bastards |
Shepard Wong Ogeko
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
360
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:54:00 -
[50] - Quote
Super spikinator wrote:Selyra Lin wrote:Of course, I fell for their recruiting scam and contracted my assets to them and lost 4.5billion isk worth of stuff. I try to talk to every possible person in Goon that I can think of and tell them about this and tell all tell me to **** off. Tried to talk to Tector, La Nariz, and a few more.
All I get from La Nariz is a mail saying he has eyes in all over Eve and knows what is going on. Sad part is, he was in the convo with me and the recruiter scammer talking about some capital program they never had.
Now all of a sudden I am back on the recruitment channel seeking a corp and the same scammer using the same name sends me another message asking if I would like to join their corp. I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. That I could use the petition to challenge the warning.
So they are allowed to do whatever they please and say whatever they want and nothing happens, but when someone laughs at them for trying to scam the same person twice I get warned?
Since plex's are considered in game items, that can be bought with real money. Does that fall under fraud? that can be taken to court? Seen a news article a while back where a guy tried to sell a game account online and was scammed out of it and he ended up taking the guy to court, even tho it is against the EULA to sell game accounts, but the judge awarded the case in his favor since real money was involved and made the scammer pay him back.
So since I am from the US and this guy is from the US that means I could possibly seek the same and take it to court? Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux:
Two words
Scotch
Fund |
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Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:55:00 -
[51] - Quote
SpoonRECKLESS wrote:Goons scammed me too. I wanted to join, but they put me in there pet alliance. Can you believe this I am in TEST now of!! Worst bible camp recruitment ever!!!Hurrhurrhurr, never trust anyone in eve man.
Have you not attended the dbrb course on Theology? |
Generic5Guy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:55:00 -
[52] - Quote
Guys it was a misunderstanding. I have the 20 Lokis waiting here for him, just need his security deposit. |
Misaka Todako
Close Proximity
5
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Posted - 2013.01.02 05:56:00 -
[53] - Quote
r |
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
368
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:03:00 -
[54] - Quote
This is very confusing, in order to fall for the Goon recruitment scam, you would have had to be a noob. On the other hand, you claim to have 4.5 Bil in Assets?
Is the mighty Hive fishing for relevance again?
Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
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James Amril-Kesh
RAZOR Alliance
3039
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:06:00 -
[55] - Quote
Trendon Evenstar wrote:SpoonRECKLESS wrote:Goons scammed me too. I wanted to join, but they put me in there pet alliance. Can you believe this I am in TEST now of!! Worst bible camp recruitment ever!!!Hurrhurrhurr, never trust anyone in eve man. Have you not attended the dbrb course on Theology? I don't know about theology, but I did attend his course on dieting. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1566
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:12:00 -
[56] - Quote
Powers Sa wrote:What, pray tell, is "GOON", and why does their hard earned subscription money differ any from yours? Goons are people that belong to this really bad forum called something aweful.
It is just wall to wall bad posters.
Can I have some bounty money now Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1566
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:13:00 -
[57] - Quote
Just another quick message for the OP
You wanted to be a Goon
You got what you deserved. Any Spelling, gramatical and literary errors made by me are included free of charge.
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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
75
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:15:00 -
[58] - Quote
Obvious Cyno wrote:I find Goonswarm representatives very respectful when they're scamming. Dont know about anyone else. I guess in the private convo you were quite rude and possibly offensive towards him. I have now seen the logs. I am horrified that ccp have not permanently banned the original poster for vile racial abuse. Had he used such an epithet in public he could have been charged with a criminal offence.
Ccp's leniency in the face of such racism and bigotry is shameful. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6188
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:20:00 -
[59] - Quote
Beekeeper Bob wrote:This is very confusing, in order to fall for the Goon recruitment scam, you would have had to be a noob. On the other hand, you claim to have 4.5 Bil in Assets? Is the mighty Hive fishing for relevance again?
ah yes, the old "only newbies get scammed" line
my wallet says otherwise v0v ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
2786
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:21:00 -
[60] - Quote
Another goon alt thread... *sigh*
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
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Nova Valio
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:21:00 -
[61] - Quote
I'm sure you will receive back your deposit when you finish your application process. Please do not leave it halfway done and come flaming eve-forums. |
Generic5Guy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:22:00 -
[62] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Another goon alt thread... *sigh*
If only this were fake |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6189
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:26:00 -
[63] - Quote
Marlona Sky wrote:Another goon alt thread... *sigh*
yes, a 2008 character with a corp history and signs of regular activity is certainly a "goon alt"
great show of your observation skills there ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
baltec1
Bat Country
4633
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:29:00 -
[64] - Quote
Andski wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux: Doubt it, but we don't keep score anyway. Dear leader scored 98 billion a few days ago. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6189
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:31:00 -
[65] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Andski wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux: Doubt it, but we don't keep score anyway. Dear leader scored 98 billion a few days ago.
oh yeah, the poor newbie he sold a fake titan to ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Skydell
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
488
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:36:00 -
[66] - Quote
Generic5Guy wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:Another goon alt thread... *sigh* If only this were fake, like I said his application is merely in limbo. I don't know why he does not finish everything so he can get the lokis and fitted megathron delivered.
So he contracted his stuff before he got accepted? This is why I haven't applied. I'm on SA, I am eligible. I just don't fully trust you guys yet but you have a public apology for jumping on the Goon hate band wagon. |
Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
89
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:46:00 -
[67] - Quote
Skydell wrote:So he contracted his stuff before he got accepted? This is why I haven't applied. I'm on SA, I am eligible. I just don't fully trust you guys yet but you have a public apology for jumping on the Goon hate band wagon.
All one has to do is read the tablets of stone from one Aryndel Vyst. Reading original posts in recruitment threads and wikis helps too. For anyone that cant be assed to do that- I've got some fully upgraded systems in Deklein and Tribute to rent you, along with discreet supercap production.
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Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
838
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:46:00 -
[68] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it.
You send your self hate mail then petitioned it? Because you sure sound like some kid who got hurt and cried about it.
People get scammed in EVE every day. Scamming belongs within the game and is officially approved by the makers of EVE.
After 4 years playing this game I would think you should know that by now. But because people like you (and me) fall for it, the scamming keeps on going.
So you lost a few space pixels. **** happens, just move on and shrug it off. By posting here you gave your scammers icing on their cake. Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6189
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Posted - 2013.01.02 06:56:00 -
[69] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote:Selyra Lin wrote:I laugh at him and tell him he is the same kid that scammed me the other day and all of a sudden I am getting a mail from some GM saying I have been warned for using harsh language toward some kid who got hurt and cried about it. You send your self hate mail then petitioned it? Because you sure sound like some kid who got hurt and cried about it. People get scammed in EVE every day. Scamming belongs within the game and is officially approved by the makers of EVE. After 4 years playing this game I would think you should know that by now. But because people like you (and me) fall for it, the scamming keeps on going. So you lost a few space pixels. **** happens, just move on and shrug it off. By posting here you gave your scammers icing on their cake.
his main is from 2006 and he got scammed by a dude who has only been playing since november ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
838
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:00:00 -
[70] - Quote
Andski wrote:his main is from 2006 and he got scammed by a dude who has only been playing since november
No wonder it hurts. Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
12428
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:05:00 -
[71] - Quote
Super spikinator wrote:Andski wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux: Doubt it, but we don't keep score anyway. There are bigger suckers out there? I suppose, tears are after all water - they dry out when exposed to time. Apparently, a lot of people have gotten into their heads that MIttens is a well-known and trusted third party for Titan salesGǪ
GǪso yes. Much, much bigger.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Frying Doom
Zat's Affiliated Traders
1566
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:08:00 -
[72] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Andski wrote:Super spikinator wrote:Honest question goons. Does this reach the top 10 in hauls you have made from people who think they can get into goonswarm in any way but :tenbux: Doubt it, but we don't keep score anyway. There are bigger suckers out there? I suppose, tears are after all water - they dry out when exposed to time. Apparently, a lot of people have gotten into their heads that MIttens is a well-known and trusted third party for Titan salesGǪ GǪso yes. Much, much bigger. How do you possible afford a titan and manage to have never read the forums?
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Ocih
Space Mermaids Somethin Awfull Forums
583
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:15:00 -
[73] - Quote
Trendon Evenstar wrote:Skydell wrote:So he contracted his stuff before he got accepted? This is why I haven't applied. I'm on SA, I am eligible. I just don't fully trust you guys yet but you have a public apology for jumping on the Goon hate band wagon. All one has to do is read the tablets of stone from one Aryndel Vyst. Reading original posts in recruitment threads and wikis helps too. For anyone that cant be assed to do that- I've got some fully upgraded systems in Deklein and Tribute to rent you, along with discreet supercap production.
Having a derpy night. I don't usually meta Sky as a meat shield. Can I run cap production in M-O? It's just so much easier to get parts in being so close to Jita and all. |
Selyra Lin
Perkone Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:20:00 -
[74] - Quote
Now that all the kiddies have had their fun and laughs, on to a more serious matter.
Those that laughed about saying suing has been overly used, actually yes it is legal to sue someone from things that happen in a video game. Just like Facebook, there was a local guy from my state that posted on FB that he felt like blowing up a school he was so mad. A concerned parent called the police they arrested the guy the next day, but those concerned parents did not send their kids to school that day because of what he said. They sued the guy for their kid losing education time and yes this being a place of where you can make a buck doing anything, he had to pay the parents for loss education time.
There is also group of people who buy game accounts from gold farmers and when their account gets banned from buying it, they simply recall the money and when paypal refuses to give them the money back they sue the people they bought the account from. Even tho it states in the EULA it is against the rules, the way the court seems to work here they are still awarded money from the guys they bought the account from.
Sad part is, they have won numerous amounts of times and they continue to get away with it.
So yes, there are people who play video games just to make a buck over harassment and sad thing is that it is legal and ties up the court system over stupid non-important things rather than all the important cases. But, if it makes a buck then people will do it just to get a dollar from someone else. |
Kogh Ayon
SUNDERING Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:26:00 -
[75] - Quote
Generic5Guy wrote:Guys it was a misunderstanding. I have the 20 Lokis waiting here for him, just need his security deposit.
Yeah that is usually the case. |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
342
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:29:00 -
[76] - Quote
Our 3rd party supercap services are legitimate ok Follow me on twitter |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6189
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:29:00 -
[77] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:Now that all the kiddies have had their fun and laughs, on to a more serious matter.
Those that laughed about saying suing has been overly used, actually yes it is legal to sue someone from things that happen in a video game. Just like Facebook, there was a local guy from my state that posted on FB that he felt like blowing up a school he was so mad. A concerned parent called the police they arrested the guy the next day, but those concerned parents did not send their kids to school that day because of what he said. They sued the guy for their kid losing education time and yes this being a place of where you can make a buck doing anything, he had to pay the parents for loss education time.
There is also group of people who buy game accounts from gold farmers and when their account gets banned from buying it, they simply recall the money and when paypal refuses to give them the money back they sue the people they bought the account from. Even tho it states in the EULA it is against the rules, the way the court seems to work here they are still awarded money from the guys they bought the account from.
Sad part is, they have won numerous amounts of times and they continue to get away with it.
So yes, there are people who play video games just to make a buck over harassment and sad thing is that it is legal and ties up the court system over stupid non-important things rather than all the important cases. But, if it makes a buck then people will do it just to get a dollar from someone else.
yes, making literal terrorist threats online is just like scamming someone in eve online
clearly an open and shut case you have there ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Jayson Kassis
Carbon Industries
24
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:31:00 -
[78] - Quote
Pak Narhoo wrote: People get scammed in EVE every day. Scamming belongs within the game and is officially approved by the makers of EVE.
Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business. |
HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
342
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:31:00 -
[79] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:Now that all the kiddies have had their fun and laughs, on to a more serious matter.
Those that laughed about saying suing has been overly used, actually yes it is legal to sue someone from things that happen in a video game. Just like Facebook, there was a local guy from my state that posted on FB that he felt like blowing up a school he was so mad. A concerned parent called the police they arrested the guy the next day, but those concerned parents did not send their kids to school that day because of what he said. They sued the guy for their kid losing education time and yes this being a place of where you can make a buck doing anything, he had to pay the parents for loss education time.
There is also group of people who buy game accounts from gold farmers and when their account gets banned from buying it, they simply recall the money and when paypal refuses to give them the money back they sue the people they bought the account from. Even tho it states in the EULA it is against the rules, the way the court seems to work here they are still awarded money from the guys they bought the account from.
Sad part is, they have won numerous amounts of times and they continue to get away with it.
So yes, there are people who play video games just to make a buck over harassment and sad thing is that it is legal and ties up the court system over stupid non-important things rather than all the important cases. But, if it makes a buck then people will do it just to get a dollar from someone else. i see you took up internet lawyering 101
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Nariya Kentaya
Tartarus Ventures Surely You're Joking
272
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:33:00 -
[80] - Quote
Tector wrote:The really funny part is that our own Wiki tells people that we do not openly recruit or charge security deposits or ask people to hand things over. Whats even funnier is that ive seen these scams play out, and one goon will even be saying "dont listen to the *******, hes a lying git", and the person STILL pays the fee and contracts stuff. seems most goons go out fo their way to inform people when they are getting lifted, people are just to moronic/illiterate to see/read. |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6190
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:35:00 -
[81] - Quote
Jayson Kassis wrote:Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business.
what mechanic? ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Generic5Guy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:36:00 -
[82] - Quote
Andski wrote: his main is from 2006 and he got scammed by a dude who has only been playing since november
12/12/12 Baby ;) |
dexington
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
507
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:36:00 -
[83] - Quote
Scamming new players in the recruitment channel is below the belt, but you had 4.5B in assets...
Everyone knows about the scams when joining goonswarm, it's your own fault for not checking the internet before joining. It was stupid to give the goons all your stuff, and just a stupid to come to the forum looking for comfort and support.
GÇ£The best way to keep something bad from happening is to see it ahead of time, and you can't see it if you refuse to face the possibility.GÇ¥ |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6190
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:39:00 -
[84] - Quote
dexington wrote:Scamming new players in the recruitment channel is below the belt, but you had 4.5B in assets...
Everyone knows about the scams when joining goonswarm, it's your own fault for not checking the internet before joining. It was stupid to give the goons all your stuff, and just a stupid to come to the forum looking for comfort and support.
we don't scam new players because they generally don't have anything worth scamming ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
Xtek Hemah
Viziam Amarr Empire
20
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:41:00 -
[85] - Quote
Jayson Kassis wrote:Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business.
Actually it is great for business. I looked into trying this game after reading about the Guiding Hand Social Club heist. I said to myself: thats ****** awesome I gotta try that game. Hundreds, no thousands have done the same. |
Jayson Kassis
Carbon Industries
24
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:41:00 -
[86] - Quote
Andski wrote:Jayson Kassis wrote:Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business. what mechanic?
Scamming in all it's forms. |
Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC. Goonswarm Federation
78
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:41:00 -
[87] - Quote
Selyra Lin wrote:Now that all the kiddies have had their fun and laughs, on to a more serious matter.
...there follows discussion of trivia compared with ...
yet still you gloss over the reason you were warned in game: use of racist language which you cannot repeat here as you know it would be the last thing CCP allowed you to post.
Your sanctimonious hypocrisy whilst thinking we will ignore your vile racism is disgraceful.
Shame on you!
p.s. anyone who needs to see the evidence can contact me out of game where I will be only too pleased to share a suitably redacted version |
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1041
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:43:00 -
[88] - Quote
Jayson Kassis wrote:Pak Narhoo wrote: People get scammed in EVE every day. Scamming belongs within the game and is officially approved by the makers of EVE. Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business.
And why would they stop it? As long as the scamming is kept within the context of the game mechanics, there's nothing wrong with it. In fact, it makes the game far more intriguing - and fyi, I've just been had by this very recruiting scam. Do I have a problem with it? Sure I do. But it's not the devs who are at fault, it's the person who scammed me, and my own failure to identify a scam. To that end, I intend to make the scammer's life hell as soon as the opportunity presents itself, but I have no problem with scamming being a legitimate feature of the PVP game word that we choose to be a part of. If you don't like it, then please leave EVE.
I will recoup all my losses, nothing is irreplaceable in this game, even stuff that you spent a lot of time acquiring. What did I really lose? Some free time that I would have wasted on another game anyway if I hadn't known about EVE, and some pixels. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
Trendon Evenstar
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
91
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:43:00 -
[89] - Quote
Jayson Kassis wrote:Andski wrote:Jayson Kassis wrote:Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business. what mechanic? Scamming in all it's forms.
Scamming is not an ~ingame~ mechanic, it is social engineering- out of game.. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6190
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:44:00 -
[90] - Quote
Jayson Kassis wrote:Andski wrote:Jayson Kassis wrote:Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business. what mechanic? Scamming in all it's forms.
scamming is not a mechanic
if you don't like it because it goes against your vision of eve as a world of ponies and rainbows, maybe you're playing the wrong game ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. ~~~~i am god~~~~ |
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baltec1
Bat Country
4634
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:44:00 -
[91] - Quote
Jayson Kassis wrote:Andski wrote:Jayson Kassis wrote:Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business. what mechanic? Scamming in all it's forms. Just another form of pvp in this game. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3135
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:44:00 -
[92] - Quote
Trendon Evenstar wrote:Jayson Kassis wrote:Andski wrote:Jayson Kassis wrote:Approved because they are too lazy to clean it up. Nothing else seems to justify why such a mechanic would be included in an MMO. Not even the "Harsh Environment" lingo you nerds enjoy passing around. It's just messy and bad for business. what mechanic? Scamming in all it's forms. Scamming is not an ~ingame~ mechanic, it is social engineering- out of game.. When we see a moron, we target them and press F1, which is our "Scamming" highslot module.
You can buy one from us, in Jita 4-4, even. Only 100mil isk. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
flakeys
Arkham Innovations Paper Tiger Coalition
745
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:49:00 -
[93] - Quote
2008 char falling for something everyone who reads the forum at least a few times a year allready knows.
In short you did this to yourself .... deal with it.
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
3875
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Posted - 2013.01.02 07:53:00 -
[94] - Quote
Forum Rules wrote:
30. Rumor threads and posts.
Rumor threads and posts which are based off no actual information and are designed to either troll or annoy other users will be locked and removed. Players who engage in these type of threads can expect to receive a warning and ban.
If you feel that you have unfairly received a warning from a member of CCP staff, do as the GM suggested and file a petition either via the F12 button in game, or through this section of the forums. I'm locking this thread for breaching the above rule - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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