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Irya Boone
Escadron leader
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:23:00 -
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really op? serious about dat ? you don't see why ccp didn't do it ? really .?
Just for You !!! read it Twice
Improve C2 class WH More anos more signs ...RENAME null sec system With the name Of REAL Universe Stellar Name like KOI-730 etc etc It xill be awesome-á |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:23:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:So the general consensus is that it is a bad idea and training multiple toons on one account at the same time should never be talked about again, or at least ANOTHER thread not started about it for at least a week. But having multiple accounts, which is basically the same thing, is okay! Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:31:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:So the general consensus is that it is a bad idea and training multiple toons on one account at the same time should never be talked about again, or at least ANOTHER thread not started about it for at least a week. You're being awfully optimistic with that whole week thingGǪ
Kenneth O'Hara wrote:But having multiple accounts, which is basically the same thing, is okay! Multiple accounts are unavoidable and at least they're not diluting the character pool for free. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:37:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:But having multiple accounts, which is basically the same thing, is okay! Multiple accounts are unavoidable and at least they're not diluting the character pool for free. Then what's the point of having the extra character slots? Oh I know, to have alter egos... Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:42:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Then what's the point of having the extra character slots? Oh I know, to have alter egos... To build different charactersGǪ but you do it at the cost of the main character on that account, so you don't actually end up with more abilities than if you had just one character. You save a bit on clone costs in exchange for having to switch characters if you want to switch tasks.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Mistress Lilu
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
164
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:48:00 -
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How do you think CCP makes it money. You really dont think they get their cash flow from unicorns and trolls do you? |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2013.01.10 00:56:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:This I can agree on. I would glady pay $10 more a month just to have an alt training than to have a whole other account that requires a separate login. Why should CCP give you a discount? Because that's $10 more per month than they are making now, because without the discount he's not buying anything extra at all. $10 > $0 Plex and subs > 10.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Then what's the point of having the extra character slots? Oh I know, to have alter egos... To build different charactersGǪ but you do it at the cost of the main character on that account, so you don't actually end up with more abilities than if you had just one character. You save a bit on clone costs in exchange for having to switch characters if you want to switch tasks. But we both know this can and will be circumvented with the purchase of another account and is completely unavoidable. It is endosed, supported and encouraged by CCP which makes all the reasons that you can only train one character at a time on one account completely obsolete and outdated. Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:06:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:But we both know this can and will be circumvented with the purchase of another account and is completely unavoidable. It is endosed, supported and encouraged by CCP which makes all the reasons that you can only train one character at a time on one account completely obsolete and outdated. No we don't, largely because it doesn't change the reason or the limitations in any way whatsoever.
You can still only train one character per account. If you want to train two characters at the same time, you have to pay for two accounts. There is no circumventing this; nothing is rendered obsolete or outdated.
What is being circumvented is some fancy vision of only having one character being built per player, but again, at least it comes at the same cost for all characters and if you want the best of both worlds GÇö training two characters and then having them both on the same account, it becomes even more expensive. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:13:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:But we both know this can and will be circumvented with the purchase of another account and is completely unavoidable. It is endosed, supported and encouraged by CCP which makes all the reasons that you can only train one character at a time on one account completely obsolete and outdated. No we don't, largely because it doesn't change the reason or the limitations in any way whatsoever. You can still only train one character per account. If you want to train two characters at the same time, you have to pay for two accounts. There is no circumventing this; nothing is rendered obsolete or outdated. What is being circumvented is some fancy vision of only having one character being built per player, but again, at least it comes at the same cost for all characters. Also, if you want the best of both worlds GÇö training two characters and then having them both on the same account GÇö it becomes even more expensive.
So only people with deeper pockets should be able to train 2 characters at the same time. They even get to use them at the same time.
Just because it's the way it has always been does not mean it is the way it should be. Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
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Buzzy Warstl
The Strontium Asylum
435
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:27:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:But we both know this can and will be circumvented with the purchase of another account and is completely unavoidable. It is endosed, supported and encouraged by CCP which makes all the reasons that you can only train one character at a time on one account completely obsolete and outdated. No we don't, largely because it doesn't change the reason or the limitations in any way whatsoever. You can still only train one character per account. If you want to train two characters at the same time, you have to pay for two accounts. There is no circumventing this; nothing is rendered obsolete or outdated. What is being circumvented is some fancy vision of only having one character being built per player, but again, at least it comes at the same cost for all characters. Also, if you want the best of both worlds GÇö training two characters and then having them both on the same account GÇö it becomes even more expensive. So only people with deeper pockets should be able to train 2 characters at the same time. They even get to use them at the same time. Just because it's the way it has always been does not mean it is the way it should be. Well, yeah.
On the other hand I still don't see the logic behind plexing additional training slots on the same account being game breaking, it's like having multiple accounts only you can only log into one of them at a time.
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Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:32:00 -
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Buzzy Warstl wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:But we both know this can and will be circumvented with the purchase of another account and is completely unavoidable. It is endosed, supported and encouraged by CCP which makes all the reasons that you can only train one character at a time on one account completely obsolete and outdated. No we don't, largely because it doesn't change the reason or the limitations in any way whatsoever. You can still only train one character per account. If you want to train two characters at the same time, you have to pay for two accounts. There is no circumventing this; nothing is rendered obsolete or outdated. What is being circumvented is some fancy vision of only having one character being built per player, but again, at least it comes at the same cost for all characters. Also, if you want the best of both worlds GÇö training two characters and then having them both on the same account GÇö it becomes even more expensive. So only people with deeper pockets should be able to train 2 characters at the same time. They even get to use them at the same time. Just because it's the way it has always been does not mean it is the way it should be. Well, yeah. On the other hand I still don't see the logic behind plexing additional training slots on the same account being game breaking, it's like having multiple accounts only you can only log into one of them at a time. Well that is pointless which is why I'm arguing to just let us train an additional character on the same account for free. Which is the way it should have been from the start. Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
AnzacPaul
Invictus Australis Scrap Iron Flotilla.
113
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:44:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote: Well that is pointless which is why I'm arguing to just let us train an additional character on the same account for free. Which is the way it should have been from the start.
No it shouldn't. You just want something extra for free.
CCP have made it even easier allowing you to play the game for no charge with GTC purchases with isk.
Also, if you can't afford an extra $15 a month for a game (less than 4 dollars a week), you should really be looking at your financial situation, and not complaining at CCP.
Imagine if it had been like that from the start, the game would mean so much less as characters would be worth nothing. Titan pilots? I got three training on one account at the same time. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 01:52:00 -
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AnzacPaul wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote: Well that is pointless which is why I'm arguing to just let us train an additional character on the same account for free. Which is the way it should have been from the start.
No it shouldn't. You just want something extra for free. CCP have made it even easier allowing you to play the game for no charge with GTC purchases with isk. Also, if you can't afford an extra $15 a month for a game (less than 4 dollars a week), you should really be looking at your financial situation, and not complaining at CCP. Imagine if it had been like that from the start, the game would mean so much less as characters would be worth nothing. Titan pilots? I got three training on one account at the same time. Ha and you assume because I'm arguing this point that I can't afford extra accounts. It's the principle of the matter.
Edit: What if I had 3 accounts with titan pilots being trained at the same time? Oh i had an extra 30 bucks each mouth so it's ok. Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:00:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:So only people with deeper pockets should be able to train 2 characters at the same time. You can train two characters at once without having deep pockets. In fact, probably the most common reason to have that second account is to ensure that you don't need to spend money on it.
Quote:Well that is pointless which is why I'm arguing to just let us train an additional character on the same account for free. Which is the way it should have been from the start. No, it really shouldn't. All MMOs work like this, and they do it for a reason: the base hook of these kinds of game is character progression, so in the end, that is what you're paying for. That's what the companies make money from, and it's why ghost training was killed off unceremoniously: because people got the hook for free. Likewise, being able to train multiple characters for free massively dilutes the character pool; massively reduces income for the developer; massively reduces player interdependency; it unbalances player growthGǪ there is literally no upsides to it (no, player miserliness and GǣI want it for freeGǥ-entitlement is not an upside).
If you want to train two characters at once, you can. For double the spread of progression (note: spread, not speed), you GÇö quite fairly GÇö pay double the price. The game generously offers means to do that without having deep pockets, so there's not even that kind of unfairness. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:09:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:So only people with deeper pockets should be able to train 2 characters at the same time. You can train two characters at once without having deep pockets. In fact, probably the most common reason to have that second account is to ensure that you don't need to spend money on it. Quote:Well that is pointless which is why I'm arguing to just let us train an additional character on the same account for free. Which is the way it should have been from the start. No, it really shouldn't. All MMOs work like this, and they do it for a reason: the base hook of these kinds of game is character progression, so in the end, that is what you're paying for. That's what the companies make money from, and it's why ghost training was killed off unceremoniously: because people got the hook for free. Likewise, being able to train multiple characters for free massively dilutes the character pool; massively reduces income for the developer; massively reduces player interdependency; it unbalances player growthGǪ there is literally no upsides to it (no, player miserliness and GÇ£I want it for freeGÇ¥-entitlement is not an upside). If you want to train two characters at once, you can. For double the spread of progression (note: spread, not speed), you GÇö quite fairly GÇö pay double the price. The game generously offers means to do that without having deep pockets, so there's not even that kind of unfairness. You're assuming that all MMOs train skills real time like EVE... They don't. The only reason you can't "skill" up other characters at the same time in other MMOs is because it is completely different mechanics and requires you to be logged in to get said skills and levels. You just compared EVE to WoW. EVE is completely different.
Oh and it's not "for free" as you say. I already pay my monthly sub for one account. Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:12:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:You're assuming that all MMOs train skills real time like EVE. Nope. I'm simply stating facts: EVE lets you work on the advancement of one character at a time GÇö an industry-wide convention (unsurprisingly since that's usually the hook of the game). Exactly how it is done is inconsequential because it would always be possible to train all characters at once if the developers wanted to. Of course, doing so would mean giving you stuff that you'd otherwise have to pay for so why on earth would (or should) they give you that for free?
Quote:Oh and it's not "for free" as you say. I already pay my monthly sub for one account. GǪand you get the one character training slot for that. Two more without paying more is about as free as it gets. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2350
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:12:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Oh and it's not "for free" as you say. I already pay my monthly sub for one account.
Which, as in literally every other MMO, allows you to progress with one character at a time. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
Guess Who's Back. -á Back Again. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:You're assuming that all MMOs train skills real time like EVE. Nope. I'm simply stating facts: EVE lets you work on the advancement of one character at a time GÇö an industry-wide convention (unsurprisingly since that's usually the hook of the game). Exactly how it is done is inconsequential. It's only a convention because nobody had a system where it was feasibly possible to level a character without logging in to the game. Just because it hasn't been done does not mean that the opposite is an industry standard. Besides, standards change.
Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Oh and it's not "for free" as you say. I already pay my monthly sub for one account. GǪand you get the one character training slot for that. Two more without paying more is about as free as it gets. We've already established that I'm not paying to train one character but I am paying to log in with one character. Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:28:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:It's only a convention because nobody had a system where it was feasibly possible to level a character without logging in to the game. Eh, no. It's been feasible from day #1 of MMO #1 and isn't even difficult to imagine, let alone implement: the XP equivalent is account-wide, each character builds independently using that XP amount.
Boom done easy. So you can drop that nonsense. No-one does it because that's where they make money, not because it can't be done. Hell, even the free-to-play games make money that way. EVE is is no way unique, neither in the decision to only let you advance one character at a time, nor in the ability to implement such a design.
Quote:We've already established that I'm not paying to train one character but I am paying to log in with one character. No. You've only established that you think you're entitled to more. If you don't think you get enough for your buck, stop paying it. Beyond that, it's a very simple rule: you pay for one account; one account lets you train one character. If you want to train multiple characters, get multiple accounts. Three times the spread means three times the price, to absolutely no-one's surprise.
So no, wanting three times more training without any additional payment is still to want something for free. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
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bufnitza calatoare
Nex Angelus. Unclaimed.
52
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:37:00 -
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SassyLassy wrote:it would be nice if you could train more then 1 charecter at a time. training 2 chars on 1 account be awesome especially if it could be done at same time.
Why isnt this been added in yet CCP ?
IF you must know... you used to be able to do exactly that. then ccp stopped it. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:40:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:It's only a convention because nobody had a system where it was feasibly possible to level a character without logging in to the game. Eh, no. It's been feasible from day #1 of MMO #1 and isn't even difficult to imagine, let alone implement: the XP equivalent is account-wide, each character builds independently using that XP amount. Boom done easy. So you can drop that nonsense. No-one does it because that's where they make money, not because it can't be done. Hell, even the free-to-play games make money that way. EVE is is no way unique, neither in the decision to only let you advance one character at a time, nor in the ability to implement such a design. You can't gain XP (experience) without logging in with the character. Based on your equivalence of XP to SP, we have to log in to that character to just train skills. This is an industry standard, supposedly.
Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'hara wrote:We've already established that I'm not paying to train one character but I am paying to log in with one character. No. You've only established that you think you're entitled to more. If you don't think you get enough for your buck, stop paying it. Beyond that, it's a very simple rule: you pay for one account; one account lets you train one character. If you want to train multiple characters, get multiple accounts. Three times the spread means three times the price, to absolutely no-one's surprise. So no, wanting three times more training without any additional payment is still to want something for free. Technically, I'm not entitled to anything outside of having access to the game which is the ability to log in. According to you and everybody else here it seems, I'm only entitled to one character.
I am very happy with my services thus far in case you were wondering. Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 02:58:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:You can't gain XP (experience) without logging in with the character. Sure you can, if the developer wants to let you. Do you want to take a stab at guessing why they don't?
So again, you can drop the silly charade about it being some kind of massive technical hurdle and that EVE would in any way be unique in how it could allow parallel progression.
Quote:Technically, I'm not entitled to anything outside of having access to the game which is the ability to log in. According to you and everybody else here it seems, I'm only entitled to one character. No. According to us, you're entitled to three characters per account, as demonstrated by the three character slots at your disposal. Here, as everywhere else, you can only work on the progression of one of them at a time, though. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 03:14:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:You can't gain XP (experience) without logging in with the character. Sure you can, if the developer wants to let you. Do you want to take a stab at guessing why they don't? So again, you can drop the silly charade about it being some kind of massive technical hurdle and that EVE would in any way be unique in how it could allow parallel progression. Quote:Technically, I'm not entitled to anything outside of having access to the game which is the ability to log in. According to you and everybody else here it seems, I'm only entitled to one character. No. According to us, you're entitled to three characters per account, as demonstrated by the three character slots at your disposal. Here, as everywhere else, you can only work on the progression of one of them at a time, though. Right, so again we come back to money. Which is why CCP changed it in the first place. CCP can't get new players that stick around so they force their current player base to buy multiple accounts to boost overall stats for total accounts instead of actual players that play.
Edit: Prepare for the lock and the CCP clean up. Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2013.01.10 03:16:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Right, so again we come back to money. Which is why CCP changed it in the first place. Again, it's how everyone does it. So what?
Quote:CCP can't get new players that stick around so they force their current player base to buy multiple accounts to boost overall stats for total accounts instead of actual players that play. GǪand you have something to back up this piece of tinfoilhattery I suppose? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2350
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Posted - 2013.01.10 03:31:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Right, so again we come back to money. Which is why CCP changed it in the first place. CCP can't get new players that stick around so they force their current player base to buy multiple accounts to boost overall stats for total accounts instead of actual players that play.
Edit: Prepare for the lock and the CCP clean up.
When do you claim that CCP made any such change?
You have never been able to train more than one character on one account. Just like every other MMO where you can only advance with one character at a time per account (people Multibox WOW to progress more than one character, and, surprise to no one, each has to be on a different account). This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
Guess Who's Back. -á Back Again. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 03:34:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Right, so again we come back to money. Which is why CCP changed it in the first place. Again, it's how everyone does it. So what? Quote:CCP can't get new players that stick around so they force their current player base to buy multiple accounts to boost overall stats for total accounts instead of actual players that play. GǪand you have something to back up this piece of tinfoilhattery I suppose? Actually yeah, take a look at all the patches and expansions. When was training of additional characters on the same account at the same time changed? When was the Power of 2 first implemented? When was the plexing service first started? You need to take a look at the games entire history and the stock market history for the company. Also take a look at the market ticker for CCP. Oh wait, you can't because its all private stock.
You're not going to find an article on this because it has to be researched from inside the company and CCP is not going to put something like that on their own because it makes them look bad. The evidence of absence is not the absence of evidence. The research needs to be done.
Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
RubyPorto
SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
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Posted - 2013.01.10 03:56:00 -
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Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Actually yeah, take a look at all the patches and expansions. When was training of additional characters on the same account at the same time changed? When was the Power of 2 first implemented? When was the plexing service first started? You need to take a look at the games entire history and the stock market history for the company. Also take a look at the market ticker for CCP. Oh wait, you can't because its all private stock. You're not going to find an article on this because it has to be researched from inside the company and CCP is not going to put something like that on their own because it makes them look bad. The evidence of absence is not the absence of evidence. The research needs to be done.
I think that someone would have noticed and publicly commented on a giant change like "you can no longer train 3 characters at once."
Find (and post) some evidence that you could ever train more than one character per account, or take off your tinfoil hat and come back to Earth.
You say the research has to be done, you make the claim, you get to do the research. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
Guess Who's Back. -á Back Again. |
Kenneth O'Hara
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Posted - 2013.01.10 05:50:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Kenneth O'Hara wrote:Actually yeah, take a look at all the patches and expansions. When was training of additional characters on the same account at the same time changed? When was the Power of 2 first implemented? When was the plexing service first started? You need to take a look at the games entire history and the stock market history for the company. Also take a look at the market ticker for CCP. Oh wait, you can't because its all private stock. You're not going to find an article on this because it has to be researched from inside the company and CCP is not going to put something like that on their own because it makes them look bad. The evidence of absence is not the absence of evidence. The research needs to be done. I think that someone would have noticed and publicly commented on a giant change like "you can no longer train 3 characters at once." Find (and post) some evidence that you could ever train more than one character per account, or take off your tinfoil hat and come back to Earth. You say the research has to be done, you make the claim, you get to do the research. I never claimed that it was changed. Read earlier post by someone else. You only read mine and assume it was me that made such claim. I like how you "noticed". I am going based off that other player. Ill of me to make such judgement before reading further into it. If it was never so then so what? I have no need to do the research on this particular point. I will however research everything else. You can take that tinfoilhattery non-sense that you claim I speak and shove it.
What is up with everyone in this game? If someone disagrees with the majority of the older player base, they are considered "stupid". They then precede to talk down to the player, not the opposing idea. It would seem that thinking outside of the norm is highly discouraged.
I'm of course, referring to the earlier block who resorted to a lot of *s in his post to try and prove his point. As for the others, well done on the debate. I will have to concede and count this as a loss for the judges are the same ones I am opposing Stick around. I'm full of bad ideas. ~Isaac Clarke *Bait* with your altGäó *Bacon* with your mainGäó |
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I've stopped reading this thread, because the complete lack of logic and people just whining that they want more skillpoints has put me off. Moving on. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
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