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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 00:12:00 -
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Hello Space Friends;
My name is sky captain Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com, and I am here to inform you of an outstanding opportunity awaiting each and every one of you. Following the unprecedented success of Operation : Goonswarm Shrugged, it has been decided that we shall expand these operations. Whereas previously ice interdiction efforts had been limited to Gallente space and the bounty payouts were exclusive to Goonswarm Federation and her allies, it has been decided that both of these limitations shall be rescinded. In plain English, this means that youGÇöyes, you, dear pubbieGÇömay now participate in high-security ganking subsidized by bounty payouts; moreover, these operations shall expand to include Caldari high security space as well as Gallente high security space.
So how does this work? It's very simple. Any ship on the below list is eligible for a bounty payout, so long as it is destroyed in Caldari or Gallente high security space. Let me say that again: in order for a kill to be eligible for bounty payouts, the kill must occur in either Caldari high security space or Gallente high security space. Another provision is that the killmail must be API-verified in order for the pilot to receive payment.
ELIGIBLE SHIPS & BOUNTY PAYOUTS 500 million ISK : Anshar, Ark, Nomad, Rhea 250 million ISK : Orca; Charon, Fenrir, Obelisk, Providence 25 million ISK : Hulk 10 million ISK : Mackinaw; Capsule* 5 million ISK : Covetor, Procurer, Retriever, Skiff; Bustard, Crane, Impel, Mastodon, Occator, Prorator, Prowler, Viator *Note: In order to receive 10 million ISK for a capsule kill, the specific capsule must belong to the pilot of one of the ships for which you are submitting a killmail that meets the eligibility requirements; i.e., if you kill a Hulk and get his pod, that's 35 million ISK for you, but if you kill a Hulk and some random guy's pod that's just 25 million ISK. In order to verify your API for eligibility with this program, please click this link and send the API details to one of the individuals on the contact list. Be sure to send EVEmails for bounty payout requests from the character that's on the killmail, or else you WILL NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING.
To submit your request for a bounty payout, send one (1) killmail per evemail with the subject "GOONSWARM SHRUGGED" to one (1) of the individuals on the contact list at the bottom of this post. Any double-posts or mails sent to multiple individuals on the contact list WILL NOT RECEIVE ANYTHING, and you may find yourself blacklisted from the program. Proper format for bounty payout requests (via EVEmail) is illustrated with this example:
Quote:GOONSWARM SHRUGGED From: Lyris Nairn Sent : 2011.10.03 18:48 To: thecrate
2011.10.01 17:09:00
Victim: Argozalla Corp: Azure Horizon Alliance: Unknown Faction: Unknown Destroyed: Retriever System: Deninard Security: 0.7 Damage Taken: 1265
Involved parties:
Name: Lyris Nairn (laid the final blow) Security: -0.7 Corp: GoonWaffe Alliance: Goonswarm Federation Faction: NONE Ship: Typhoon Weapon: Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I Damage Done: 1265
Destroyed items:
Hobgoblin I (Drone Bay) Expanded Cargohold II, Qty: 2 Warrior I (Drone Bay) Ice Harvester II
Dropped items:
Ice Harvester II If you have any questions about this program, please do not hesitate to contact one of the individuals on the contact list.
CONTACTS : andski, aryndel vyst, spookydonut, thecrate, venus vermillion |
Buruk Utama
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 00:29:00 -
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They will then happily contract your payment to you and you'll notice your wallet short several million iskies.
This is a funny post and the tears from griefer wantabes will be fun to watch as they lose their ship, standings and are surprised there is no payout. |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 00:43:00 -
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I vouch for the Goons' honorable ways and their flawless track record of never ripping anyone off. |
Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
138
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:13:00 -
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Deth2alliceminers Lykouleon > CYNO ME CLOSER SO I CAN HIT THEM WITH MY SWORD |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
21
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:26:00 -
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Who? |
Danks
Fat Angry Toe Tappin Inbreds
8
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:28:00 -
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Tech II haulers should be more than 5 mil |
Kehro Urgus
Aliastra Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:29:00 -
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They'll only pay to GSF people, dont bother with it if expecting to recieve anything. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1133
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:34:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:Who? What? |
Elise DarkStar
DarkCorp Capital Group DarkCorp Imperium
21
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:41:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Elise DarkStar wrote:Who? What?
Hehn? |
Taedrin
Kushan Industrial
85
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:55:00 -
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Will be interesting to see if there is any actually foolish enough to trust the goons to pay up. And if the goons AREN'T actually just scamming this time, I may have to make some changes to my Jita runs for the foreseeable future |
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Clarina Kusoni
LightningStrikesTwice Elemental Tide
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:58:00 -
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Elise DarkStar wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Elise DarkStar wrote:Who? What? Hehn?
Wer? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1134
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Posted - 2011.10.09 01:58:00 -
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Y |
Nephilius
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 03:26:00 -
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Fun, do their bidding and get jack all for it. Don't drink the kool-aid, kids. They'll just cackle madly at you. Make CQ and WiS an option, not a must.-á I don't play EvE for the toon spinning. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:42:00 -
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Taedrin wrote:Will be interesting to see if there is any actually foolish enough to trust the goons to pay up. And if the goons AREN'T actually just scamming this time, I may have to make some changes to my Jita runs for the foreseeable future I completely understand people thinking this is a scam but look at it from our point of view. Goons killing carebear miners is fun but getting the pubbies to turn on each other is Nirvana. Eventually a few people will be brave enough to try this and will get paid and hopefully spread the word
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1142
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:59:00 -
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Danks wrote:Tech II haulers should be more than 5 mil I don't make the rules, buddy. I just post them. But as an insight to what's going on here, the goal is that the bounty payment will (mostly) cover the cost of the ship(s) required to kill a given target. Are you a bad enough dude to pop a Tech II hauler with a couple of cruisers? |
Cidwm
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:22:00 -
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so you want us to to try and trust the largest set of scammers and low lives in EVE to pay us for any kills we conduct against industrials, and do your dirty work? o.O yeah... that makes sense... |
Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
101
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:00:00 -
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And killmails from what date(from the time you posted this post) count ? |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:14:00 -
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Cidwm wrote:so you want us to to try and trust the largest set of scammers and low lives in EVE to pay us for any kills we conduct against industrials, and do your dirty work? o.O yeah... that makes sense...
When did Istvaan post in here? |
Xylorn Hasher
Mean Corp Mean Coalition
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:26:00 -
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Nice nice, but why not in Minmatar space?
Also your bounties are set below ship+fit costs in case of: Orca ( 200k EHP on it at least ), Hulk ( T2 fitted Brutix is needed ). But Retriever have huge bounty on it in other hand ( i only need T1 fitted Thrasher to kill one which cost is below 1m ISK ).
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Dirty Wizard
The Geedunk Expedition
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:41:00 -
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Yeah no.
We all saw your memo about trying to control the ice market. Not going to help you do that. |
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Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:51:00 -
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Xylorn Hasher wrote:Nice nice, but why not in Minmatar space?
Also your bounties are set below ship+fit costs in case of: Orca ( 200k EHP on it at least ), Hulk ( T2 fitted Brutix is needed ). But Retriever have huge bounty on it in other hand ( i only need T1 fitted Thrasher to kill one which cost is below 1m ISK ).
I've just spotted that you require API for whatever reason you need it.
Is API verified killboard on Battleclinic enough for you? I'm not crazy enough to give my API to the Goons for God's sake.
With the new API system, you can create one with only the killlog included, so noone can see anything but that. Try it.
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Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:51:00 -
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Dirty Wizard wrote:Yeah no.
We all saw your memo about trying to control the ice market. Not going to help you do that.
Confirming you hate ISK.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1154
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:22:00 -
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I appreciate all the bumps.
As to acceptable dates, any killmail generated on or after 2011.10.08 will be accepted. As to our motivations behind this program or our trustworthiness, uh, well, I don't see a question to answer. |
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:34:00 -
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Even if they don't actually pay you a bounty you're doing the game a service, so can't see any downside here. Also giving likes to my favorite goon poster GÖÑLyrisGÖÑ |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1155
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:36:00 -
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Hi Koronakesh, shine your +reps on me forever baby. GÖÑ |
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:23:00 -
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I can't actually fly gallente though, and while I can do alpha tempest fine, this seems overkill for most of the jobs. Drawing on your professional experience (vicariously obtained or otherwise), could you advise me on the viability of a harbinger in comparison to a brutix for bc-level suicidal justice dispensation? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1156
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:06:00 -
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Comparable damage, but more expensive. |
Venus Vermillion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:58:00 -
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Confirming that I am your official Brapelille Goon Representative!
Ask around in the system, you'll find that I do indeed pay out to those non-goons who make ice miners one with the terrible cold of space. Thus far I've paid out for Khalia Netsune, Amro One, and Thomas Abernathy. Feel free to ask them about the money they received.
The system is easy: If I'm online, I'm cloaked somewhere near by the ice field and will see the kill and the isk will be transfered immediately. If I'm not online, send me a confirmed killmail posting and I'll send the money as soon as I log on. |
Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:14:00 -
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I will be spending my time doing this next week on my main, even if they pay or not. It's high time I get to -10. |
Atrum Veneficus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:17:00 -
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After ganking a bot in Deninard, the pod hung around trying to mine.
I offered 20mil isk to whoever would gank that pod.
To my surprise, a new pilot in a velator tried (and failed) to take the pod. I paid him 10mil for trying.
After about 20 minutes and nobody else trying, the newbie came back in an actual frigate, finished the job, and I paid him another 20mil.
I'm not sure who was more surprised - me that someone actually did it - or him that I actually paid him.
Edit: I should also say that this program is surprisingly legit. Lyris is spending some of that 80 billion isk earned through the titan scam you can read about in this forum on paying non-GSF pilots to shoot miners. I'm in charge of bounty payouts for the alliance program and Lyris's program is separate and funded through the titan scam.
Have fun! |
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Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
24
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:33:00 -
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God's I wish I could still go into high sec right now. |
Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:47:00 -
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Quick question. Does this apply to regular T1 haulers? (said it did in the other post)
Makes moving Brutix into Dodixie, for you peeps, riskier.
*edit*
And collecting the trit for making new ones, of course. 2 million trit's 20k m3 after all. |
Ronin Steel
Paradox Collective
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 21:42:00 -
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is it true Goons smell of day old wee and broken biscuits? |
Rikanin
The Azerick Corporation The ENTITY.
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 21:48:00 -
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Wow...goons actually expect to be believed?
I don't know what's funnier - THAT or that there are people who have been playing this game longer than 2 minutes who'd actually fall for this bullshit.
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Jenn Makanen
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 22:11:00 -
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Rikanin wrote:Wow...goons actually expect to be believed?
I don't know what's funnier - THAT or that there are people who have been playing this game longer than 2 minutes who'd actually fall for this bullshit.
Heh. My question, on the other hand, comes from believing there are people that will fall for this. Doesn't matter if I believe or not |
Fuujin
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.10.10 05:29:00 -
[36] - Quote
For everyone screaming "SCAM!" just take a second to actually, y'know, think:
1) we're asking you to kill and submit the kill and v. limited API info to a representative 2) that rep will verify the kill and then pay you isk
That is the extent of the required contact you have to make. "But what about the API?"--as mentioned, with the new API system you can "Create new API" and uncheck access to everything but killmails. Boom--all we can see now are your kills and likely hilarious losses.
Most of you will lack the stones to follow through, but for you few crazy diamonds out there, here's that chance to get in on that sweet, sweet subsidized miner killing action!
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enterprisePSI
Unimatrix 0.1
20
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Posted - 2011.10.10 06:42:00 -
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Even if it is a scam, what's wrong with killing some ice carebears? ;) Ah, curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1177
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Posted - 2011.10.10 15:34:00 -
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The only thing more amusing than naive pubbies are the paranoid ones. |
Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:20:00 -
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Is there a public channel so I could report the location of a Orca if I don't have the solo popping power? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1181
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:21:00 -
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gonegalt |
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Tah'ris Khlador
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
4
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Posted - 2011.10.10 17:40:00 -
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Scam or no, contributing to the destruction of vessels harming those vulnerable Asteroids and Ice rocks is a service to the environment! |
MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:12:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:The only thing more amusing than naive pubbies are the paranoid ones. Confirming that not trusting goons is not only inprudent, but unwarranted paranoia.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1181
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Posted - 2011.10.10 18:27:00 -
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Who cares if people don't trust me? It's not like I'm asking people to do anything they would not otherwise do. I am not expecting people who ordinarily would have no interest in suicide ganking to suddenly go out and do it for the exclusive reason that there is a bounty payout waiting for them. It is much more realistic to expect people who are already disposed towards suicide ganking to continue doing it and send some killmails to the people on that contact list to get their bounty reward. |
clamslayer
Double Deuce Investments
0
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:31:00 -
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Killed two hulks thus far, but the link for the api in the original post works, but i cant log in.
wtf.. |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
106
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:37:00 -
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Next time I gank someone, I'll find out of the goons actually pay. I'll be ganking them anyway, it's worth a shot at the extra isk :) |
clamslayer
Double Deuce Investments
0
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:42:00 -
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for this to work out for them they are going to have to pay the bounties and tell all those who were ganked why they were and to spread the word. otherwise this thing is going to fail. there are miners everywhere in gallente space, finding targets takes 5 minutes. |
LiSung
New Eden Asteroid Preservation Society
6
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Posted - 2011.10.10 20:44:00 -
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Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Scam or no, contributing to the destruction of vessels harming those vulnerable Asteroids and Ice rocks is a service to the environment!
Exactly! Your sentiment reflects the ideology of the New Eden Asteroid Preservation Society perfectly. If we can't put a stop to the wanton mining that goes on every day all over New Eden, future generations won't even remember what asteroids were; They'll live in barren, black space devoid of the natural beauty which we are currently destroying at break-neck pace.
NEAPS fully endorses the efforts of the Goonswarm. Regardless of their motives, their declaration of "open season" on miners will at least delay the destruction of our environment. |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
116
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Posted - 2011.10.10 21:45:00 -
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Buruk Utama wrote:They will then happily contract your payment to you and you'll notice your wallet short several million iskies.
This is a funny post and the tears from griefer wantabes will be fun to watch as they lose their ship, standings and are surprised there is no payout.
Actually, you're not looking at this with the proper economic viewpoint.
Yes, Economic.
See, to Goonswarm, which takes in something like 150 billion in isk in tech moon profits a month, these bounties are piddly crap. Drops in the bucket. Veritable chump change.
But to the long running Goon strategy -- that is, destroying all ice mining, and thus crippling all T2 Production and all Gallente POS activities -- they are priceless. The value gained for the isk in paying out profit LEGITIMATELY, and thus ensuring more people do it, is vastly higher than the small amounts of isk they are paying out.
Getting more people in on this will help ensure that this project continues and succeeds long into the future. In addition, to steal a term from political science, the "Overton Window" is being shifted towards the griefers. That is to say, by doing this they are making it more acceptable to grief in highsec.
They are destroying your Concord shield.
And there's nothing you can do about it.
(Except, as another fine upstanding goon has pointed out, go to the EVEO forums and whine.)
Your tears are worth all the isk in the world. Especially since it's usually your isk we're using.
But there is one more thing I need to point out. CCP has stated that they plan on moving ice to Nullsec exclusively. We are doing you a service by preventing you from mining ice in highsec. Because you will not be able to mine ice after the winter expansion.
GOONSWARM: BECAUSE WE CARE.
(Just not about you.) |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks
106
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:08:00 -
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Xython wrote:CCP has stated that they plan on moving ice to Nullsec exclusively.
I think this is a mistake. Ice needs to be rare in high, common in low, and plentiful in null.
edit: completely changed up my idea.
I'd rather they create a low-yield highsec ice product that would require a significant mining effort to get enough fuel for just a small tower. This would let corps who want to run their own supply chain do so, but remove the profit from highsec ice mining and drive the true industry out into low/null where the REAL ice fields would be in abundance.
Nullsec already has the market cornered on moon goo, they shouldn't get exclusivity on ice as well. It's just TOO easy in highsec right now. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1197
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:38:00 -
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Xython wrote:Buruk Utama wrote:They will then happily contract your payment to you and you'll notice your wallet short several million iskies.
This is a funny post and the tears from griefer wantabes will be fun to watch as they lose their ship, standings and are surprised there is no payout. Actually, you're not looking at this with the proper economic viewpoint. Yes, Economic. See, to Goonswarm, which takes in something like 150 billion in isk in tech moon profits a month, these bounties are piddly crap. Drops in the bucket. Veritable chump change. But to the long running Goon strategy -- that is, destroying all ice mining, and thus crippling all T2 Production and all Gallente POS activities -- they are priceless. The value gained for the isk in paying out profit LEGITIMATELY, and thus ensuring more people do it, is vastly higher than the small amounts of isk they are paying out. Getting more people in on this will help ensure that this project continues and succeeds long into the future. In addition, to steal a term from political science, the "Overton Window" is being shifted towards the griefers. That is to say, by doing this they are making it more acceptable to grief in highsec. They are destroying your Concord shield. And there's nothing you can do about it. (Except, as another fine upstanding goon has pointed out, go to the EVEO forums and whine.) Your tears are worth all the isk in the world. Especially since it's usually your isk we're using. But there is one more thing I need to point out. CCP has stated that they plan on moving ice to Nullsec exclusively. We are doing you a service by preventing you from mining ice in highsec. Because you will not be able to mine ice after the winter expansion.GOONSWARM: BECAUSE WE CARE. (Just not about you.) Look at that Merchi post. |
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clamslayer
Double Deuce Investments
0
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Posted - 2011.10.10 22:41:00 -
[51] - Quote
how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1198
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:42:00 -
[52] - Quote
To be perfectly honest I have no idea since we've not yet had to deal with it on an alliance level. :iiam: |
Skeith Oumis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:55:00 -
[53] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many.
https://support.eveonline.com/api/Key/CreatePredefined/25166080/
You'll be prompted to log in (Note this is eveonline.com, verified with SSL and crap). You'll have to fill in a name for the key (Goon killlog for example!), and click the shiny create button. Then you'll be taken back to a poorly coded page where you'll probably have to scroll down to find a table that has your new "goon killlog" in it! What we need is the: "ID" and "Verification Code".
It's that easy! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1204
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Posted - 2011.10.10 23:56:00 -
[54] - Quote
Skeith Oumis wrote:clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many. https://support.eveonline.com/api/Key/CreatePredefined/25166080/You'll be prompted to log in (Note this is eveonline.com, verified with SSL and crap). You'll have to fill in a name for the key (Goon killlog for example!), and click the shiny create button. Then you'll be taken back to a poorly coded page where you'll probably have to scroll down to find a table that has your new "goon killlog" in it! What we need is the: "ID" and "Verification Code". It's that easy! What do I do again? This is too hard, man. I don't like this game. |
clamslayer
Double Deuce Investments
0
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:05:00 -
[55] - Quote
Skeith Oumis wrote:clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many. https://support.eveonline.com/api/Key/CreatePredefined/25166080/You'll be prompted to log in (Note this is eveonline.com, verified with SSL and crap). You'll have to fill in a name for the key (Goon killlog for example!), and click the shiny create button. Then you'll be taken back to a poorly coded page where you'll probably have to scroll down to find a table that has your new "goon killlog" in it! What we need is the: "ID" and "Verification Code". It's that easy!
thanks, however im still having an issue. it is on my end somehow |
Skeith Oumis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:09:00 -
[56] - Quote
Contact CCP then. You might have found that obscure really weird never reported bug in the new API system. |
Otard
Serial Squad
9
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:11:00 -
[57] - Quote
FUUUUUUCK YEA!
http://vampires.griefwatch.net/index.php?p=main |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1204
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Posted - 2011.10.11 00:14:00 -
[58] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:Skeith Oumis wrote:clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many. https://support.eveonline.com/api/Key/CreatePredefined/25166080/You'll be prompted to log in (Note this is eveonline.com, verified with SSL and crap). You'll have to fill in a name for the key (Goon killlog for example!), and click the shiny create button. Then you'll be taken back to a poorly coded page where you'll probably have to scroll down to find a table that has your new "goon killlog" in it! What we need is the: "ID" and "Verification Code". It's that easy! thanks, however im still having an issue. it is on my end somehow Could possibly be something to do with your browser settings? |
Otard
Serial Squad
9
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 00:49:00 -
[59] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many.
stfu and get out. 25m motivates the hell out of me |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1206
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 00:51:00 -
[60] - Quote
Otard wrote:clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many. stfu and get out. 25m motivates the hell out of me 17 Hulks and 5 Mackinaws agree with you. |
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Otard
Serial Squad
9
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 00:59:00 -
[61] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Otard wrote:clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many. stfu and get out. 25m motivates the hell out of me 17 Hulks and 5 Mackinaws agree with you. close. 18 hulks and 8 macs. i have 30 BC's coming out of the oven in 2 hours. then im back at it. |
jimmyjam
Sinner Among Saints Exquisite Malevolence
4
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 01:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
The people who fall this deserve it other then that nice waste of space on the forums. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1206
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 01:19:00 -
[63] - Quote
Fall for what? We've been entirely upfront with why we want ice miners killed. :???: |
Otard
Serial Squad
9
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 01:34:00 -
[64] - Quote
well, apparently i dont get paid till after DT. so i guess we will know if it is for realz or not till then. Im still suiciding, regardless |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1206
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 01:34:00 -
[65] - Quote
I commend your spirit. Magnificent valour. |
Tah'ris Khlador
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
4
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 02:25:00 -
[66] - Quote
Two points of clarification:
Is your current program limited to the monstrosities bringing harm to Ice or does it extend to the same beasts tearing at the souls of your everyday Asteroid citizen?
As a coordinator of Environment Defense activities, is the program limited to solo kills or can a spokes person for a group be assigned?
Limitations I've currently seen:
- Must be in Caldari or Gallente space
- Must fit in the ship types listed
I want to be sure the Environment Defense crew I'm working with understands properly. |
Amro One
One.
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 02:35:00 -
[67] - Quote
Will NOIR. Get the ISK to, if they mail you a JF KM that belong to a goon pilot? |
clamslayer
Double Deuce Investments
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 03:06:00 -
[68] - Quote
Otard wrote:clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many. stfu and get out. 25m motivates the hell out of me
**** you nerd, you are not many are you?
you are one who sits in the same system. you are not going to clear out a single region on your own |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1208
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 03:19:00 -
[69] - Quote
At risk of sounding like a catchphrase, why are you mad? Calm down guy. |
Otard
Serial Squad
9
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 03:21:00 -
[70] - Quote
clamslayer wrote:Otard wrote:clamslayer wrote:how the **** do i set up my api, the link in the original post isnt working for me...
wtf
you guys should up the bounties a bit, 25 mill a hulk isnt going to motivate very many. stfu and get out. 25m motivates the hell out of me **** you nerd, you are not many are you? you are one who sits in the same system. you are not going to clear out a single region on your own
/me hands clamslayer a midol. |
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Dirty Wizard
The Geedunk Expedition
2
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Posted - 2011.10.11 03:25:00 -
[71] - Quote
Feligast wrote:Dirty Wizard wrote:Yeah no.
We all saw your memo about trying to control the ice market. Not going to help you do that. Confirming you hate ISK. Confirming your confirmation.
Lets just do away with this messy ship combat and get to the heart of what we're really doing to each other: Money Fight! Lets just toss wads of money at each other till we're bored. I mean, isn't that what we're already doing in EvE anyways?
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Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
138
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 03:37:00 -
[72] - Quote
no more flying freighters to jita =( |
AngelFood
No C0de
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 06:41:00 -
[73] - Quote
Hi goonfail
5mil for t2 blockade runners? o0 noobs |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1225
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 06:43:00 -
[74] - Quote
Hi No C0deine
AngelFood, for a cake? Ha! |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
39
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 16:19:00 -
[75] - Quote
AngelFood wrote:Hi goonfail
5mil for t2 blockade runners? o0 noobs
We aren't buying you a blockade runner. We're paying you to shoot it.
If you hate money and hate shooting things, go back to shooting your space rocks and somebody will be around shortly to collect the price on you. |
Otard
Serial Squad
9
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 16:45:00 -
[76] - Quote
sooo wheres my iskies? |
Skorpynekomimi
E.A.D Alliance Omega Vector
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 16:49:00 -
[77] - Quote
So, how many goon bots are running nullsec ratting and lv4 missions to provide the ISK for this attempt to run everyone in Delve out of ships and fuel? That's what I wanna know. |
Koronakesh
Seekers of a Silent Paradise
10
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 16:56:00 -
[78] - Quote
2 hulks in and i fear I'm becoming a terrible addict |
Trusty Jutspezic
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 18:33:00 -
[79] - Quote
Skorpynekomimi wrote:So, how many goon bots are running nullsec ratting and lv4 missions to provide the ISK for this attempt to run everyone in Delve out of ships and fuel? That's what I wanna know.
One goon running one third of one month's output of one tech moon to Jita. Really, it's more like a fraction of a goon. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1239
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 18:36:00 -
[80] - Quote
Trusty Jutspezic wrote:Skorpynekomimi wrote:So, how many goon bots are running nullsec ratting and lv4 missions to provide the ISK for this attempt to run everyone in Delve out of ships and fuel? That's what I wanna know. One goon running one third of one month's output of one tech moon to Jita. Really, it's more like a fraction of a goon. Roughly two hundred twelve milli-goons. :colbert: |
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ShadowMaiden
Atrocity.
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.11 20:15:00 -
[81] - Quote
ITT - We hang on the coat-tails of Helicity Boson's Hulkageddon |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1348
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 06:45:00 -
[82] - Quote
What is Hulkageddon? |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
78
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 07:40:00 -
[83] - Quote
Amro One wrote:Will NOIR. Get the ISK to, if they mail you a JF KM that belong to a goon pilot? Is it in the appropriate systems? If so, sounds like a legal kill to me o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1507
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 07:58:00 -
[84] - Quote
Tallian Saotome wrote:Amro One wrote:Will NOIR. Get the ISK to, if they mail you a JF KM that belong to a goon pilot? Is it in the appropriate systems? If so, sounds like a legal kill to me I saw you giving me the "like". Right back at ya, space buddy! |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
80
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 07:59:00 -
[85] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote:Amro One wrote:Will NOIR. Get the ISK to, if they mail you a JF KM that belong to a goon pilot? Is it in the appropriate systems? If so, sounds like a legal kill to me I saw you giving me the "like". Right back at ya, space buddy! I typically only 'like' posts I agree with.
Ofc, I do agree with giving me more likes o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1507
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 07:59:00 -
[86] - Quote
Join the +rep circle jerk. I will return "like" for anyone who gives me the "like". |
Cerisia
Lone Star enterprises
20
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 08:40:00 -
[87] - Quote
Yaay for spacebook likes! I can picture in my mind a world without war, a world without hate. And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect it. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1683
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 08:42:00 -
[88] - Quote
Cerisia wrote:Yaay for spacebook likes! Space book has inspired me to post more; presumably, this will result in more total Good Posts. |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
31
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 11:14:00 -
[89] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Cerisia wrote:Yaay for spacebook likes! Space book has inspired me to post more; presumably, this will result in more total Good Posts.
Indeed . Christmas would now be not the same without you |
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 13:24:00 -
[90] - Quote
I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us... |
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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
87
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 13:27:00 -
[91] - Quote
JitaJane wrote:I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us... Care to explain how this would lower prices in Amarr and Matar? Given that the targeted ice products can only be obtained in gallente and caldari space, Amarr and Matar would either be unaffected, or would have an increase in demand(as people switch to those types of towers and supercaps) which in turn would increase price.
Or do you just think all the miners are gonna move there to mine a product that doesn't exist there? o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
87
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 13:29:00 -
[92] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Cerisia wrote:Yaay for spacebook likes! Space book has inspired me to post more; presumably, this will result in more total Good Posts. I've been wondering why all these goons have stopped shiptoasting since the new forums came out.
And here I thought Mittens just told ya'll to stop being retards while he was in CSM(which left the mystery of WHY?) o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
41
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 13:35:00 -
[93] - Quote
JitaJane wrote:I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us... That's more of a side effect than anything. We just haven't spread our message of joy to the other regions just yet. |
Doracos
Teylas Inc.
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 16:45:00 -
[94] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Fall for what? We've been entirely upfront with why we want ice miners killed. :???: Why? Cause you made huge stockpile of ice before and now you selling it for 3x more making huge profits?
and.... You are goons.......
I dunno realy why ppl like ganking hi sec miners.... I mean think about it. Prices are going up on ice products, its like fuel prices in real world. thats gonna affect prices on everything.... mostly t2 stuff. so basicly you getting money from goons making pennies and having uber fun showing how uber you are shooting at afk ppl on belts. cudos to you. but what you do... you just helping goons make more money and you gonna pay at the end for it.... |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1700
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 16:46:00 -
[95] - Quote
Doracos wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Fall for what? We've been entirely upfront with why we want ice miners killed. :???: Why? Cause you made huge stockpile of ice before and now you selling it for 3x more making huge profits? Yes, that is exactly why. We have said this openly. |
Doracos
Teylas Inc.
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 16:51:00 -
[96] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Doracos wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Fall for what? We've been entirely upfront with why we want ice miners killed. :???: Why? Cause you made huge stockpile of ice before and now you selling it for 3x more making huge profits? Yes, that is exactly why. We have said this openly. And I HATE YOU FOR THAT!!!! for not telling me before you announced it:P |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1701
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 16:57:00 -
[97] - Quote
That doesn't make it dishonest. It just makes it secret. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
94
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 16:58:00 -
[98] - Quote
Doracos wrote:having uber fun showing how uber you are shooting at afk ppl on belts. cudos to you.
why are people who are undocked afk? I don't even like to go afk inside pos shields
Just because you're in highsec doesn't mean you should be safe o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1701
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 16:59:00 -
[99] - Quote
Tallian Saotome wrote:Doracos wrote:having uber fun showing how uber you are shooting at afk ppl on belts. cudos to you. why are people who are undocked afk? I don't even like to go afk inside pos shields Just because you're in highsec doesn't mean you should be safe Being human is greatly correlated to being stupid. |
casthor Khan
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 17:39:00 -
[100] - Quote
How can I +rep an entire alliance?
In the meantime, +rep to Lyris for the Open Season! |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1706
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 17:41:00 -
[101] - Quote
I enjoy returning "like" with "like". Give me more, and I'll return the favor. |
Skeith Oumis
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
15
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 17:51:00 -
[102] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Cerisia wrote:Yaay for spacebook likes! Space book has inspired me to post more; presumably, this will result in more total Good Posts.
Confirming Lyris makes Good Posts |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
43
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 18:01:00 -
[103] - Quote
Skeith Oumis wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Cerisia wrote:Yaay for spacebook likes! Space book has inspired me to post more; presumably, this will result in more total Good Posts. Confirming Lyris makes Good Posts
This was news to me, but then I +liked and it was k. |
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 18:11:00 -
[104] - Quote
About the only thing this thread has done is prove how ineffective Concord is at enforcing the security of high sec players. I remember CCP banning people for evading Concord. Love to see how this gets interpreted at the next GM/Dev meeting since it's clearly exploiting a Concord Enforcement capability and on the verge of being listed as "Intentional Exploitation". |
Tah'ris Khlador
Guy Fawkes Trust Fund 31ST Reliables Division
6
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 18:36:00 -
[105] - Quote
Tauren Tom wrote:About the only thing this thread has done is prove how ineffective Concord is at enforcing the security of high sec players. I remember CCP banning people for evading Concord. Love to see how this gets interpreted at the next GM/Dev meeting since it's clearly exploiting a Concord Enforcement capability and on the verge of being listed as "Intentional Exploitation".
If high sec space was supposed to be extremely safe in all aspects, then wouldn't it just be all 1.0 security? The concept of varying degrees of security space is that the lower you go, the more riskier it can get. EVE is closer to "real life consequences" than most MMOs in that Concord are more so enforcers than out right preventors. Crime still happens, there are just consequences that go with it.
The security is still enforced. For every gank, I still lose that ship and I lose security status at variable degrees.
But yes, clearly we are exploiting that the game allows for players to shoot one another. That exploit just never seems to get fixed. |
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 18:44:00 -
[106] - Quote
Tah'ris Khlador wrote:Tauren Tom wrote:About the only thing this thread has done is prove how ineffective Concord is at enforcing the security of high sec players. I remember CCP banning people for evading Concord. Love to see how this gets interpreted at the next GM/Dev meeting since it's clearly exploiting a Concord Enforcement capability and on the verge of being listed as "Intentional Exploitation". If high sec space was supposed to be extremely safe in all aspects, then wouldn't it just be all 1.0 security? The concept of varying degrees of security space is that the lower you go, the more riskier it can get. EVE is closer to "real life consequences" than most MMOs in that Concord are more so enforcers than out right preventors. Crime still happens, there are just consequences that go with it. The security is still enforced. For every gank, I still lose that ship and I lose security status at variable degrees. But yes, clearly we are exploiting that the game allows for players to shoot one another. That exploit just never seems to get fixed.
Lol, not saying you're exploiting being able to pointlessly shoot some other nub. I'm saying what was in the past considered and enforced as banable seems to have lost its hold on every GM's minds. I stopped caring too much about what GM's say as of late since it seems to only hinge on who's alliance you're part of. (I should joined test back in the day...) |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1715
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 18:49:00 -
[107] - Quote
The thing that was and still is considered an exploit is to avoid CONCORD reprisal for your actions. It has never been considered an exploit to not give a damn about the reprisal. It has never been an exploit to suicide gank people, or to fly around Empire while -10 waving your spacedick at the people in local, or anything like that. |
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 19:05:00 -
[108] - Quote
Ah and I remembered what I was aiming to put in my first post for this thread that I forgot XD.
(and I forgot again as I started typing this one...)
There was a point back in time in the late '09/'10 area that several GM's had made an open point that entering highsec with the explicit intention of dodging reprisal for the "Criminal Actions" of entering high sec with a below allowable security status had been a banable offense. And for anyone that enters high sec with a toon of insufficient security status you know that the faction forces still say they're going to enforce the safety of the players/populous in that area and start outright chasing you from the gate.
Now clearly they aren't as overpowered as concord and act as if they're using just basic ships with a couple extra hard points on them. So it's easy to slip past them but some folks had made a big rub of it at the time since you essentially trying to dodge a built in game mechanic designed for the safety of new/fresh toons since concord's reaction was only to a violent/moronic act.
In short: Dodging faction cops used to be considered dodging a game mechanic = exploitation back in the day. now dodging faction cops =/= dodging concord in terms of exploitation. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1719
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 19:19:00 -
[109] - Quote
I have been playing since '08 and I have been very active with regards to aggression mechanics across the entirety of my history in this game. At no point was I ever aware of anything like what you are describing. I suppose it's possible that I am not remembering something; of course, it is also possible that you are constructing and distorting history in such a way as to favorably support your agenda. It is also possible that I am doing the same. I know for a fact that I am not going to provide proof of my assertion. Would you care to provide some for yours? That would pretty conclusively win you this argument, because as I said I am not going to go through the effort of looking for external proof. You don't even need to find real proof, a convincing fake would probably work for most people. |
Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 19:23:00 -
[110] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:I have been playing since '08 and I have been very active with regards to aggression mechanics across the entirety of my history in this game. At no point was I ever aware of anything like what you are describing. I suppose it's possible that I am not remembering something; of course, it is also possible that you are constructing and distorting history in such a way as to favorably support your agenda. It is also possible that I am doing the same. I know for a fact that I am not going to provide proof of my assertion. Would you care to provide some for yours? That would pretty conclusively win you this argument, because as I said I am not going to go through the effort of looking for external proof. You don't even need to find real proof, a convincing fake would probably work for most people.
I believe you'll find it works out the same way as the GM's of old and late that have been issuing warnings for "can baiting and flipping new players" which lacks any definition to the term new and has appeared multiple times in the past and present state of this game. Another similar issue not enforced by all GM's and constantly up for debate was the "No luring/tricking/baiting players in .7 and higher sec" (you'll have to check the old forums for more on the .7 and higher bs. I've got an old petition somewhere that I was told if I did it again I'd be banned.) |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1729
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 19:25:00 -
[111] - Quote
Discussing petitions and other private communications with CCP on the forums is against the rules. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1729
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 19:26:00 -
[112] - Quote
I would also like to thank you for keeping this thread bumped! |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
181
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 19:30:00 -
[113] - Quote
More spacelikes for you, good sir! |
Valhallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 21:36:00 -
[114] - Quote
I've got a problem with drinking all the time, and as a result i'm not too hot at the old PVP.
This marvellous enterprise gives me the chance to get a bit of PVP in where the enemy can't fight back, so it's perfect for me!!
AND they pay you to do it as well, so its a win-win situation.
2 hulks downed tonite.
Hugs |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2228
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 21:42:00 -
[115] - Quote
Valhallas wrote:I've got a problem with drinking all the time, and as a result i'm not too hot at the old PVP.
This marvellous enterprise gives me the chance to get a bit of PVP in where the enemy can't fight back, so it's perfect for me!!
AND they pay you to do it as well, so its a win-win situation.
2 hulks downed tonite.
Hugs Doesn't sound like a problem to me! |
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2011.10.12 23:26:00 -
[116] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote: Being human is greatly correlated to being stupid.
OH, you're one of those. Stupidity is the ability to act in an unprogrammed manner. Such is the complexity of human neural pathways that occasionally an anomaly in wave forms can propagate to give the impression of free will. Ants never do anything stupid, or corrupt, their nests never fall from stupidity. Pushing high sec types around for profit you don't need really could lead to them organising and squashing you, so take it to em. There was once a small crowd of wimps who never went far from their hills without getting uber ganked. They got disciplined and organised and became the Roman Empire.
You know what? I don't think the goons have it in em to stick with this long enough to cause that sort of change though. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2235
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 23:37:00 -
[117] - Quote
Probably not, we're pretty ADD. |
Kirith Vespira
Just Abide
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 23:42:00 -
[118] - Quote
Forward a non-refundable retainer of 500 million isk and I'll consider your request to gank miners. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2235
|
Posted - 2011.10.12 23:43:00 -
[119] - Quote
Your comment is both clever and original, and I am personally enamoured with both your wit and sagacity. |
Kirith Vespira
Just Abide
0
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Posted - 2011.10.12 23:47:00 -
[120] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Your comment is both clever and original, and I am personally enamoured with both your wit and sagacity.
As well you should be. |
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Tauren Tom
Order of the Silver Dragons Clone Vat
6
|
Posted - 2011.10.13 02:04:00 -
[121] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Discussing petitions and other private communications with CCP on the forums is against the rules.
Ah but you see, I am not discussing petitions in the direct sense of their rules ;)
You have to pay very close attention to loopholes. You see, most countries don't bar disclosure of messages between a corporation and their clients. And since I'm paying CCP for atleast 3 services, buying their plex's and such, I am a client and they are not a protected industry. Any statements they make in whole or in part to any member of their client baseis not considered priviledged information as it does not give a noticeable advantage over another member nor does it disclose any personal information about their clients nor staff.
Not to mention keeping their petition statements confidential and refusing to publicly admit / notify their client base of a failure on their part in whole or in part is a breach of their own EULA and ToS agreements in which they are required to notify the player base/clients and any associated marketing groups immeadiatly of service changes, rule changes and status changes to their service and/or provider base.
Short version:
CCP in no way shape or form can hold client / staff priviledge over anyone's head about disseminating a document or communication which affects the state of the game, gameplay or any form of explotation as refusing to do so and then banning someone for doing exactly what they explained in a GM to Client message and kept "underwraps" would be considered entrapment and a severe violation of their service agreements.
(I'm extremely bored at the moment incase you couldn't tell. Not to mention all i would have to do anyway is post their GM statements on a 3rd party site not include a name and just drop a link from a trial account at the local cafe then be done with any possible implications of myself or anyone else) |
Desudes
Pixelmoon The Star League
2
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Posted - 2011.10.13 02:17:00 -
[122] - Quote
I almost went suicide ganking last weekend...
I think I can get some people to tag along this weekend... I know my security status is far to high.
What kind of dps range should be expected to get kills in 0.5? My gun skills suck :( |
Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
60
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Posted - 2011.10.13 02:53:00 -
[123] - Quote
JitaJane wrote:I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us...
I have an Archon |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2263
|
Posted - 2011.10.13 02:58:00 -
[124] - Quote
Hratli Smirks wrote:JitaJane wrote:I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us... I have an Archon The crime in this thread is that the Honourable H. Ratli Smirks, esq. has far fewer spacebook likes than I. Fix this! |
Hratli Smirks
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
62
|
Posted - 2011.10.13 03:04:00 -
[125] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Hratli Smirks wrote:JitaJane wrote:I am curious as to why GS wants to lower prices in Amarr and Matar space. Because if this campaign has even moderate success that will be the result. Don't spose y'all are just going to tell us... I have an Archon The crime in this thread is that the Honourable H. Ratli Smirks, esq. has far fewer spacebook likes than I. Fix this!
its cool these forums suck anyway its like what i imagine rho squad must look like |
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2011.10.13 04:53:00 -
[126] - Quote
desudes' signature: EVE PvP reminds me of sex: there is a long build-up often made frustrating by idiots; a semi-tense and semi-fun stretch to get into business that you try to keep quick; an all too short climax where you pray nothing goes wrong, and you're probably going to go home with less money then you started with.
Damn that's tragic I will light a candle for you. Also you are doinitwrong. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Desudes
Pixelmoon The Star League
3
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Posted - 2011.10.13 05:20:00 -
[127] - Quote
Chopper Rollins wrote:desudes' signature: EVE PvP reminds me of sex: there is a long build-up often made frustrating by idiots; a semi-tense and semi-fun stretch to get into business that you try to keep quick; an all too short climax where you pray nothing goes wrong, and you're probably going to go home with less money then you started with.
Damn that's tragic I will light a candle for you. Also you are doinitwrong.
Thank you. I usually put accurate depictions of my tragic life style in my signature so people like you can know my pain. EVE PvP reminds me of sex: there is a long build-up often made frustrating by idiots; a semi-tense and semi-fun stretch to get into business that you try to keep quick; an all too short climax where you pray nothing goes wrong, and you're probably going to go home with less money then you started with. |
Florestan Bronstein
United Engineering Services
99
|
Posted - 2011.10.13 07:45:00 -
[128] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:My name is sky captain Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com you need an eye patch
no eye patch = cheap fake |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
97
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Posted - 2011.10.13 08:06:00 -
[129] - Quote
Florestan Bronstein wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:My name is sky captain Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com you need an eye patch no eye patch = cheap fake I still can't decide... Do monocles count as eyepatches yet?
Also, why do we not have a monocle wearing smiley in these forums <.< o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
19
|
Posted - 2011.10.13 15:03:00 -
[130] - Quote
Tauren Tom wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Discussing petitions and other private communications with CCP on the forums is against the rules. Ah but you see, I am not discussing petitions in the direct sense of their rules ;) You have to pay very close attention to loopholes. You see, most countries don't bar disclosure of messages between a corporation and their clients. And since I'm paying CCP for atleast 3 services, buying their plex's and such, I am a client and they are not a protected industry. Any statements they make in whole or in part to any member of their client baseis not considered priviledged information as it does not give a noticeable advantage over another member nor does it disclose any personal information about their clients nor staff. Not to mention keeping their petition statements confidential and refusing to publicly admit / notify their client base of a failure on their part in whole or in part is a breach of their own EULA and ToS agreements in which they are required to notify the player base/clients and any associated marketing groups immeadiatly of service changes, rule changes and status changes to their service and/or provider base. Short version: CCP in no way shape or form can hold client / staff priviledge over anyone's head about disseminating a document or communication which affects the state of the game, gameplay or any form of explotation as refusing to do so and then banning someone for doing exactly what they explained in a GM to Client message and kept "underwraps" would be considered entrapment and a severe violation of their service agreements. (I'm extremely bored at the moment incase you couldn't tell. Not to mention all i would have to do anyway is post their GM statements on a 3rd party site not include a name and just drop a link from a trial account at the local cafe then be done with any possible implications of myself or anyone else)
STOP! MY EYES MY EYES! You sound like a friggin' lawyer. Knock that crap off. I'll take a world full of Goons, before I'll settle on one friggin attorney. Amirite?
Hugs for everyone! Except lawyers. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2339
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Posted - 2011.10.13 17:22:00 -
[131] - Quote
Florestan Bronstein wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:My name is sky captain Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com you need an eye patch no eye patch = cheap fake I am not a fake. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
45
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Posted - 2011.10.13 19:37:00 -
[132] - Quote
Mortis vonShadow wrote:Tauren Tom wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Discussing petitions and other private communications with CCP on the forums is against the rules. Ah but you see, I am not discussing petitions in the direct sense of their rules ;) You have to pay very close attention to loopholes. You see, most countries don't bar disclosure of messages between a corporation and their clients. And since I'm paying CCP for atleast 3 services, buying their plex's and such, I am a client and they are not a protected industry. Any statements they make in whole or in part to any member of their client baseis not considered priviledged information as it does not give a noticeable advantage over another member nor does it disclose any personal information about their clients nor staff. Not to mention keeping their petition statements confidential and refusing to publicly admit / notify their client base of a failure on their part in whole or in part is a breach of their own EULA and ToS agreements in which they are required to notify the player base/clients and any associated marketing groups immeadiatly of service changes, rule changes and status changes to their service and/or provider base. Short version: CCP in no way shape or form can hold client / staff priviledge over anyone's head about disseminating a document or communication which affects the state of the game, gameplay or any form of explotation as refusing to do so and then banning someone for doing exactly what they explained in a GM to Client message and kept "underwraps" would be considered entrapment and a severe violation of their service agreements. (I'm extremely bored at the moment incase you couldn't tell. Not to mention all i would have to do anyway is post their GM statements on a 3rd party site not include a name and just drop a link from a trial account at the local cafe then be done with any possible implications of myself or anyone else) STOP! MY EYES MY EYES! You sound like a friggin' lawyer. Knock that crap off. I'll take a world full of Goons, before I'll settle on one friggin attorney. Amirite? Hugs for everyone! Except lawyers. Its a shame that all of that long winded babble is technically incorrect. I'd stare that down in court any day of the week. Personal request, before anyone gets all hot and bothered about their newest "loophole" they found in EULA/law/etc they should probably actually consider learning the law associated. People get degrees to practice this stuff for a reason. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
21
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Posted - 2011.10.14 10:44:00 -
[133] - Quote
David Cedarbridge are you an attorney? A Goon thats a lawyer in real life. Why am I suprised.
+1 for finding your niche in EVE Online. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
103
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Posted - 2011.10.14 10:59:00 -
[134] - Quote
Mortis vonShadow wrote:David Cedarbridge are you an attorney? A Goon thats a lawyer in real life. Why am I suprised.
+1 for finding your niche in EVE Online. Uhh,... You know that Mittens is an attorney, right?
Funny thing I have noticed. Underneath all the stuff people think about Goons, most of them are well educated, functional adults.
Who are obsessed by a puppy. o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Elson Tamar
Lion Investments
0
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Posted - 2011.10.14 11:33:00 -
[135] - Quote
What i like about this is that it's:
a) Very clever and has little risk to the Goons finances or own ships
b) Gets a bunch of people eating each other over scraps of ISK, which is their own fault
c) Encourages people to 0.0 and low sec as the risk is the same and lets face it soon there will be a bunch of suicide gankers who will only be able to fly low sec
d) Has finally made me want to ice mine, normaly sat in Gillantee space i wouldn't bother, but now if i nip to caldari, ammar or min space i can mine, bring it back and sell it.
I never thought i'd say this and it makes me cry a little inside but.... thankyou goons.
I feel dirty now. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
22
|
Posted - 2011.10.14 11:40:00 -
[136] - Quote
Tallian Saotome wrote:Uhh,... You know that Mittens is an attorney, right?
Great! Just when I was beginning to think that the Goons couldn't sink any lower...
Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
53
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:05:00 -
[137] - Quote
I think the Mittens should start a GoonWaffe Legal Serve blah blah blah.... GOON LAWYERS \o/ E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
22
|
Posted - 2011.10.14 14:12:00 -
[138] - Quote
Angry Onions wrote:I think the Mittens should start a GoonWaffe Legal Serve blah blah blah.... GOON LAWYERS \o/
Thats all well and good, but there are no ambulances to chase here in New Eden :) Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Angry Onions
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
54
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Posted - 2011.10.14 14:34:00 -
[139] - Quote
Mortis vonShadow wrote: Thats all well and good, but there are no ambulances to chase here in New Eden :)
Then guess what kind of ships should be introduced into New Eden? E .-+ ` ' / -+. F Your Carebear tears fuel us |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2435
|
Posted - 2011.10.14 15:41:00 -
[140] - Quote
Elson Tamar wrote: c) Encourages people to 0.0 and low sec as the risk is the same and lets face it soon there will be a bunch of suicide gankers who will only be able to fly low sec.
What are you talking about? -10.0 can fly around high security space with no problem. |
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JackStraw56
Bayesian Motion Knights of Tomorrow
12
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Posted - 2011.10.14 17:15:00 -
[141] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:[quote=Elson Tamar] What are you talking about? -10.0 can fly around high security space with no problem. Well you can do it, but there are some.....annoyances. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2461
|
Posted - 2011.10.14 17:17:00 -
[142] - Quote
JackStraw56 wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:[quote=Elson Tamar] What are you talking about? -10.0 can fly around high security space with no problem. Well you can do it, but there are some.....annoyances. Buy an orca alt, or use an alt to give you a warpin. A battlecruiser with Nanofiber Internal Structures in the lows can align and warp from station before the faction navy warp scrambles it, and CONCORD does not spawn until you have actually committed an illegal action. |
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
24
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Posted - 2011.10.15 01:07:00 -
[143] - Quote
Angry Onions wrote:Mortis vonShadow wrote: Thats all well and good, but there are no ambulances to chase here in New Eden :)
Then guess what kind of ships should be introduced into New Eden?
hehehe, a Tech II version of the Noctis called the Goonbulance. Flys around and picks up podded pilots, but you can only get them out if you pay a 50mil retainer fee. Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen. -á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á And some days, you're just a man with a gun. |
Korsiri
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.10.15 01:34:00 -
[144] - Quote
Mortis vonShadow wrote:Angry Onions wrote:Mortis vonShadow wrote: Thats all well and good, but there are no ambulances to chase here in New Eden :)
Then guess what kind of ships should be introduced into New Eden? hehehe, a Tech II version of the Noctis called the Goonbulance. Flys around and picks up podded pilots, but you can only get them out if you pay a 50mil retainer fee.
Paddywagon ;)
But da Goons make this sound like fun!
pondering new line of 'work'
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Baranga DevilBitch
Erasers Co.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.15 07:00:00 -
[145] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Hello Space Friends;
So how does this work? It's very simple. Any ship on the below list is eligible for a bounty payout, so long as it is destroyed in Caldari or Gallente high security space. Let me say that again: in order for a kill to be eligible for bounty payouts, the kill must occur in either Caldari high security space or Gallente high security space. Another provision is that the killmail must be API-verified in order for the pilot to receive payment.
ELIGIBLE SHIPS & BOUNTY PAYOUTS
500 million ISK : Anshar, Ark, Nomad, Rhea 250 million ISK : Orca; Charon, Fenrir, Obelisk, Providence 25 million ISK : Hulk 10 million ISK : Mackinaw; Capsule* 5 million ISK : Covetor, Procurer, Retriever, Skiff; Bustard, Crane, Impel, Mastodon, Occator, Prorator, Prowler, Viator
We are Erasers.Co,. Minmatar separatist organization, our mission is to destroy any civilian ship that helps the economy Caldari, so we decided to join the saga of the destruction of ships in the Caldari space.
And it was notified that anyone with a legitimate kill in Caldari space can claim the reward, and here we are.
http://killboard.erasersco.com/
We will be please it this rewards, Our wars machines need ammos
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Nephilius
Pillage and Plunder Salvage Co.
8
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Posted - 2011.10.15 15:57:00 -
[146] - Quote
David Cedarbridge wrote:Its a shame that all of that long winded babble is technically incorrect. I'd stare that down in court any day of the week. Personal request, before anyone gets all hot and bothered about their newest "loophole" they found in EULA/law/etc they should probably actually consider learning the law associated. People get degrees to practice this stuff for a reason.
Since when have technicalities ever stopped the law from being applied inappropriately? There's precedent for everything, something that is regularly used in legal proceedings. The door behind the toon you spin contains the secrets behind life, the universe and everything. |
David Cedarbridge
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
82
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Posted - 2011.10.15 18:54:00 -
[147] - Quote
Nephilius wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote:Its a shame that all of that long winded babble is technically incorrect. I'd stare that down in court any day of the week. Personal request, before anyone gets all hot and bothered about their newest "loophole" they found in EULA/law/etc they should probably actually consider learning the law associated. People get degrees to practice this stuff for a reason. Since when have technicalities ever stopped the law from being applied inappropriately? There's precedent for everything, something that is regularly used in legal proceedings.
That's vague enough to almost make sense. In other news, it might rain tomorrow therefore it is always raining. |
Sigarni Green
Hedion University Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.16 07:14:00 -
[148] - Quote
The one thing people seem to be mising is that jita is in Caldari space. Being that a very large percentage of all trade in eve goes via Jita and a large amount is via haulers. Most of the north aka Goons & co use Jita. So be sure to ganks some of their haulers and get them to pay you for it :-) But Jita will be gank central, untill a new trade hub outside of gallente or caldari space is found.
Let the good times roll. |
Otard
STEEL CITY.
33
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:53:00 -
[149] - Quote
I take back about this being a scam.
DRUMMMMMM ROLE!
Lyris just sent me my due isk of 575 MILLION!
*Disclaimer* I was in deklien working back my sec status and i saw her in local. So i said 'Hey, wheres my isk?' Apparently all those supposed to be helping has dropped the ball and lyris isnt a micromanager.
It might take a week, or 2- but i did get my iskies. So GL to the rest of you! |
JFDeckard
Praetorian Cohort
0
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Posted - 2011.10.17 03:54:00 -
[150] - Quote
David Cedarbridge wrote:[quote=Nephilius][quote=David Cedarbridge]People get degrees to practice this stuff for a reason.
Ya, idiots can't be on the loose talking about law without some legitimacy. |
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Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto we Sizwe
32
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Posted - 2011.10.17 09:26:00 -
[151] - Quote
Does the payout include war targets that have lost their Evil Roid killers and Orca's?
Or is this a Gankers only thing? I do my little bit to make sure every roid is safe in HighSec. I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist
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Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
111
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Posted - 2011.10.17 09:36:00 -
[152] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:Does the payout include war targets that have lost their Evil Roid killers and Orca's?
Or is this a Gankers only thing? I do my little bit to make sure every roid is safe in HighSec. Does a killmail show if its a gank or a WT that you killed?
Or even if you got concorded afterwards?
If you kill an eligible ship in the appropriate areas, submit a claim for iskies. Whats the worst that can happen, they don't pay you for killing someone you were gonna kill anyway? o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Ziranda Hakuli
Relativity Holding Corp AAA Citizens
0
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Posted - 2011.10.17 16:34:00 -
[153] - Quote
These guys make me laugh and I gotta say that a Jail House ***** has better standards then these kids. These kids will never pay you for the bounties listed unless its an alt of an alliance member. These idiots are out to ruin the game for everyone and possibly destroy it intentionally as they have stated multiple times.
There is way to dealing with these guys. Unite and wardec them. Eve is a numbers game use cheap affordable ships and in mass numbers you can beat them. Do not set your industrial ships up for hauling put a freaking tank on them so if you are not Wardec then Concord will hopefully pop them before they get you.
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Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto we Sizwe
32
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Posted - 2011.10.17 17:56:00 -
[154] - Quote
Lol..
So I thought I give this try not expecting much since... well we all know.... and as expected, they are already trying to weasel out of paying 250mil.
Awesome excuse of.. It's for Galente Space only.
Once a Goon always a Goon? I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist
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Khalia Nestune
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.17 18:09:00 -
[155] - Quote
Confirming I got paid by Venus Vermillion
http://www.mylootyourtears.com |
Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto we Sizwe
32
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Posted - 2011.10.17 18:21:00 -
[156] - Quote
Khalia Nestune wrote:Confirming I got paid by Venus Vermillion
I knew I send it to the wrong person....
The dude I send it too much still be playing catchup.
I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist
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Valhallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.10.17 23:32:00 -
[157] - Quote
Otard wrote:I take back about this being a scam.
DRUMMMMMM ROLE!
Lyris just sent me my due isk of 575 MILLION!
*Disclaimer* I was in deklien working back my sec status and i saw her in local. So i said 'Hey, wheres my isk?' Apparently all those supposed to be helping has dropped the ball and lyris isnt a micromanager.
It might take a week, or 2- but i did get my iskies. So GL to the rest of you!
Oh you little liar, that's as plausible as telling the wife you were studying that adult material on the internets cos you are secrectly working for the FBI,KGB,MI5,barney the dinosaur.
The only reason I still do it (and forward my killmails to the goons) is to try and carry favour with the Goons, and fulful my lifelong ambition of becoming an honorary goon.
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Otard
STEEL CITY. Junkyard Gunn3rs
34
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Posted - 2011.10.18 01:45:00 -
[158] - Quote
Cannibal Kane wrote:Lol..
So I thought I give this try not expecting much since... well we all know.... and as expected, they are already trying to weasel out of paying 250mil.
Awesome excuse of.. It's for Galente Space only.
Once a Goon always a Goon?
They did say it is only for gallente and caldari space. you should read the directions. That is why you got that one girl pregnant |
Otard
STEEL CITY. Junkyard Gunn3rs
34
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Posted - 2011.10.18 01:46:00 -
[159] - Quote
[Brutix, suicide] Magnetic Vortex Stabilizer I Magnetic Vortex Stabilizer I Magnetic Vortex Stabilizer I Magnetic Vortex Stabilizer I Magnetic Vortex Stabilizer I
Warp Scrambler I Sensor Booster I, Scan Resolution Target Painter I Stasis Webifier I
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Void M
Hammerhead I x5
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Cannibal Kane
Umkhonto we Sizwe
33
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Posted - 2011.10.18 01:55:00 -
[160] - Quote
Otard wrote:Cannibal Kane wrote:Lol..
So I thought I give this try not expecting much since... well we all know.... and as expected, they are already trying to weasel out of paying 250mil.
Awesome excuse of.. It's for Galente Space only.
Once a Goon always a Goon? They did say it is only for gallente and caldari space. you should read the directions. That is why you got that one girl pregnant
Try Reading again... they told me it for Gallente Space only. So either they are just being goons... which means I can trust them as far as I can throw a Titan.
OR
That specific Goon is 2 steps away from.... "I aint got no LEGS Lt. DAN." I'm not a Pirate, I'm a Terrorist
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Ashlynn Tanaka
Nebula Engineering L.L.C.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:53:00 -
[161] - Quote
Consider this a scam to force Industrialists and Miners to pay an "amnesty fee."
http://goonfleet.net/miners/?
They-- GoonWaffe-- pay a ransom to pilots to shoot down said ships.
In return, they ask you to pay an EXORBITANT fee for "protection."
This is nothing more than encouraging pilots to shoot you down in high sec space for Isk while in turn GoonWaffe gets money from charging a protection fee.
Completely unreasonable. |
Crystan Jakri
Dark Nexus Mining and Industry Multicultural Industrial and Combat Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:30:00 -
[162] - Quote
Dear Fellow CEO and/or Pilot,
I am writing to you as I expect that you, like myself, have grown tired of sitting and waiting for Goonswarm to attack us and those like us whenever they feel like it. This new act of agression MUST be stopped before it is allowed to continue any further.
This week I was sitting mining in one of my local belts quite happily when I was scouted by one of the Goon's spies. I luckily had time to recall my drones and dock my Hulk, but it was a close call. Not long after, the Goons showed up in the system, and I observed them (cloaked) heading to all the belts looking for Miners. I had recalled all of my guys to the station by this point, but if I hadnt noticed the scout we would have all been podded.
This CANNOT be allowed to continue any longer. What I propose is that a concentrated effort is made by every single Corp opposed to the Goons in order to try and get a Resistance organised to drive these bastards back to whatever **** hole they came from once and for all.
Now the Corps who join the resistance need not be Combat Corps. As I expect you all know, there is a lot more to fighting a war on EVE than just buying ammo and fitting ships. If this plan is to succeed and we are to gain the necessary numbers and strength to fight these bastards off, we need a home front and a front line. The two will form a United Resistance Front (UNF), and combined will grow to become one of the largest Player Factions there is in EVE if things go right.
Getting support for this resistance may not be easy, but I strongly believe that I am not the only one who wants to do something about this Incursion. In order for this to work, we need to get as many Corps and Alliances involved as we possibly can and we all need to declare war against the Goons simultaneously. Only then will they see that they can't go round ******* with Industrial Pilots and do what they please.
The best way that I see of fighting them back is to do as they do. We can easily assemble (with the right backing) plenty of "expendable" ships to fight back at them with and see if they like a taste of their own medicine.
As far as numbers go, if this plan works to the extent I hope it does, we will have FAR more numbers than anything they could ever amass. The simple fact is, they have pissed of the majorty of the Cluster and the Cluster wants them the **** out of the game.
We will NOT all end up camping inside stations. For a start, as I said above we will end up with far greater numbers than them and they CANNOT attack us all at once. Secondly, if we get enough "Home Front" Corps backing us up who will work to the muteral interest of the Resistance movement, our Front Line forces will have no problem with loosing ships. After all, we're all fighting a common enemy here and we need to put aside any differences we may have and ******* deal with these bastards before it gets out of hand.
Finally...money...I have no doubt that a United Resistance Force (URF) will have any problem pulling together ISK that we need to fight this war. It's really very simple...either we all unite, or we all will fall.
I understand you may be pessimistic regarding this matter, and may not see this plan working out for the best. The truth is that we HAVE TO TRY, but if you wish to not involve your Corp than that's fine. But the simple fact is that if the URF IS created and the effort becomes a reality, MY ALLIANCE AND MANY OTHERS WILL BE GOING TO WAR WITH THE GOONS. You can either join us and do your bit to defend your right to play the game as you wish to, or sit back and help the Goons take victory. After all, anyone who doesnt help the Resistance may as well walk into the Goon base, drop their pants, bend over and tell them to do them as hard as they like.
Sorry for the strong words, but the fact is that this is how it is. I expect that The Cluster WILL be going to war one way or another over this, it's just a matter of time. At the end of the day, WE didnt ask for this. The Goons have GOT to learn that they can't just **** with Industrial Corps like this, and it will also send a strong message to every mother ******* Griefer and merc Corp out there that WE WILL NOT be bullied any longer.
WE WILL give them a run for their money and WE WILL WIN. United, there are more of us than there EVER will be of them, and as a United Front we can all pull together like never before and force the Goons into oblivion.
This will be a great war the likes of which has never been seen before on EVE, but I CANNOT do it without YOUR support. So please, join me not only yourselves, but speak to whatever contacts you have and get the word out that there IS a Resistance that IT IS NOT PREPARED to put up with this crap for any longer!!!
If you would like to speak to me regarding this then please feel free to open a chat, or message me or one of my Members. The more we grow, the more I will have to assign people to answer hails, but rest assured, you will be answered.
Please also feel free to forward this mail to your contacts. The more the merrier, and DEFINITELY the better. The Goon pigs are already aware of this resistance being formed, so I have no issue with posting this here for all interested to see.
IF THESE BASTARDS WANT A FIGHT THEN LET's ******* GIVE IT TO THEM!!! ARE YOU WITH US OR ARE YOU AGAINST US?
Regards,
Crystan Jakri DNMI CEO V.I.P.E.R. Commander MICA EXECUTOR |
Crystan Jakri
Dark Nexus Mining and Industry Multicultural Industrial and Combat Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:32:00 -
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And for the record, YES we do already have a great amount of support building for this campaign. Don't miss out. |
SMT008
Les chevaliers de l'ordre Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:42:00 -
[164] - Quote
OH GOD SOME WORTHLESS PUBBIE WRITTING UP A WHOLE BLOCK OF TEXT
Quick, get those 700 Maelstroms up and running in VFK, we will crush the heretics once again (If they somehow manage to go through EC's bubbles, which I highly doubt).
Quote:After all, anyone who doesnt help the Resistance may as well walk into the Goon base, drop their pants, bend over and tell them to do them as hard as they like.
I'm looking forward to it.
Quote:they can't just **** with Industrial Corps like this
Oh but look, we are currently **** with industrial corps at this very moment.
Quote:IF THESE BASTARDS WANT A FIGHT THEN LET's ******* GIVE IT TO THEM!!!
Great, we're bored of shooting structures in Delve. Evoke/MM/Brick, watch, a wave of pubbies will delay our final push. |
Valhallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:25:00 -
[165] - Quote
Crystan Jakri wrote:And for the record, YES we do already have a great amount of support building for this campaign. Don't miss out.
You could maybe ask some of your "support" to press the "like" button for your forum post.
1 "like" is a little demoralising, is it not?
I post a load of rubbish and i've got 5 likes. |
vixxxy
Double Deuce Investments
1
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Posted - 2011.10.19 02:01:00 -
[166] - Quote
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kiki mo
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
1
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Posted - 2011.10.19 06:43:00 -
[167] - Quote
well, now that Crystan Jakri is involved, the VIPER commander no less, I'm sure there won't be anymore ganking going on.
I'm just waiting on the Goons to actually start doing Incursions of their own...Goon Incursions. Disrupt Jita for a little bit, gank everyone in sight, should be fun. Better than buying a monocle or sitting on a couch, watching ponies, at least. |
Skunk Gracklaw
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
164
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:38:00 -
[168] - Quote
Ashlynn Tanaka wrote:Consider this a scam to force Industrialists and Miners to pay an "amnesty fee." http://goonfleet.net/miners/?They-- GoonWaffe-- pay a ransom to pilots to shoot down said ships. In return, they ask you to pay an EXORBITANT fee for "protection." This is nothing more than encouraging pilots to shoot you down in high sec space for Isk while in turn GoonWaffe gets money from charging a protection fee. Completely unreasonable. Oh my...that is unconscionable
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
47
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Posted - 2011.10.19 17:40:00 -
[169] - Quote
Moved from Crime and Punishment. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
192
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:36:00 -
[170] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Moved from Crime and Punishment.
How dare you. |
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Blawrf McTaggart
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
112
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:48:00 -
[171] - Quote
First you ban the Sky Captain of my heart from posting on the forums, then you try to tell us who can and cannot hold roles in our corporation? This is censorship on a level unseen since **** Germany in World War II.
What gives you the right to remove the members of Goonswarm from the contact list? Explain to me why an employee of CCP hf. gets to dictate who can be listed as a contact for alliance affairs. Tell me why if not for censorship this thread was moved from the widely read forum for piracy to a less significantly read forum.
Free my Sky Captain and stop nosing in on our alliance's affairs because this reeks of discrimination against us |
Holander Switzerland
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.10.19 18:54:00 -
[172] - Quote
These people have roles in our corporation and in our alliance and you are directly interfering with their ability to carry out those roles. You are censoring us and you are effectively mandating who can and cannot hold a role in a player corporation or alliance. If that is the stance that you wish to take then please have some other employees of CCP hf. inform our CSM chair and alliance leader, as I am sure he will be interested in reorganizing the alliance to fit whatever requirements have been determined for a player's ability to run a program or have roles.
You also seem to have missed this post, #28 in THIS thread, by Venus Vermillion:
Quote:Confirming that I am your official Brapelille Goon Representative!-á
Ask around in the system, you'll find that I do indeed pay out to those non-goons who make ice miners one with the terrible cold of space. Thus far I've paid out for Khalia Netsune, Amro One, and Thomas Abernathy. Feel free to ask them about the money they received.
The system is easy: If I'm online, I'm cloaked somewhere near by the ice field and will see the kill and the isk will be transfered immediately. If I'm not online, send me a confirmed killmail posting and I'll send the money as soon as I log on. |
Hesperus Vanderbeets
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:02:00 -
[173] - Quote
I cannot believe that the honour of our beloved sky captain Lyris Nairn is being questioned in this thread, first by the general public and then by an employee of CCP, hf. I can understand the general contempt from clueless members of the public that assume this program is some sort of scam or whatever, but why is there so much hatred from CCP Phantom directed towards Lyris? First a ban, and now blatant censorship that amounts to directly interfering in the course of the game.
I signed up to play this game because of the videos that claimed this is a sandbox where you can do pretty much anything, and where players are free to form groups and do things together. Is that not true? Is how I play this game actually going to dictated to me by a disgruntled forum moderator with a chip on his shoulder? If so, then you can kiss my accounts goodbye and those of my sponsors, too. Sure there will be people that respond to this with "good riddance," but I doubt CCP wants to lose even more customers to bad public relations.
Tell me this is some sort of freak occurrance. Free Lyris Nairn and put this thread back how it was. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
134
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:19:00 -
[174] - Quote
kiki mo wrote:. Better than buying a monocle or sitting on a couch, watching ponies, at least. BLASPHEMY!!!!
NOTHING is better than sitting on a couch watching ponies. I dedicate several hours each day to sitting on my space couch watching ponies, thank you very much.
Also, Free Lyris! o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Valhallas
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:33:00 -
[175] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:Moved from Crime and Punishment.
8.5/10
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2011.10.21 02:04:00 -
[176] - Quote
This needs to be restored back to Crime & Punishment. Are we actually meeting in real-life to coordinate ganking high-sec miners? That's absurd. |
JitaJane
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2011.10.24 06:36:00 -
[177] - Quote
While I admit that I am undereducated in the dynamics of ice mining I want to see if you follow my basic suppositions here. Obviously getting some HiSec pew-pew harshing for the rank and file, and having their name ring out, are considerable objectives for the Goons. Or at least for the rank-and-file. But if you look at their organization as a whole ( say how they maintain their null-sec) it seems pretty obvious that Goon leadership puts forth a bit more thought and has clearer understanding of the game. So I am puzzling at the less obvious economic outcomes. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
157
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Posted - 2011.10.24 07:07:00 -
[178] - Quote
JitaJane wrote: While I admit that I am undereducated in the dynamics of ice mining I want to see if you follow my basic suppositions here. Obviously getting some HiSec pew-pew harshing for the rank and file, and having their name ring out, are considerable objectives for the Goons. Or at least for the rank-and-file. But if you look at their organization as a whole ( say how they maintain their null-sec) it seems pretty obvious that Goon leadership puts forth a bit more thought and has clearer understanding of the game. So I am puzzling at the less obvious economic outcomes. Its gonna hurt goons current enemies, and make some money, without impacting the CFC all that much. It also gives the rank and file something to do to blow off steam when they take a break from their current deployment.
o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Liddia Thole
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.11.08 17:33:00 -
[179] - Quote
So anyone out there pay the ISK to get on the whitelist? Had a nice little talk with a ganker after getting contacted by the goons to get on the whitelist, trying to decide if its legit or not. Of course its Goon, but.... |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Fatal Ascension
242
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Posted - 2011.11.08 17:47:00 -
[180] - Quote
Liddia Thole wrote:So anyone out there pay the ISK to get on the whitelist? Had a nice little talk with a ganker after getting contacted by the goons to get on the whitelist, trying to decide if its legit or not. Of course its Goon, but.... I've seen em say that it worked elsewhere on the forums(or maybe it was this thread... so lazy) o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist.. KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2776
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Posted - 2011.11.08 19:28:00 -
[181] - Quote
Liddia Thole wrote:So anyone out there pay the ISK to get on the whitelist? Had a nice little talk with a ganker after getting contacted by the goons to get on the whitelist, trying to decide if its legit or not. Of course its Goon, but.... Not that you will feel inclined to believe me (being as how I am one of those evil goonies), but in the interest of toeing the party line rhetoric here I will go ahead and pipe up to inform you that we do, in fact, respect the white list. The problem with this and the reason why you may or may not have heard contrary reports is that there are some specified people to whom you can speak in order to arrange the white listGÇömyself or Venus Vermillion, and certain others we internally designateGÇöbut there are thousands more random goons whom all have Internet connections and can see this forum thread. Since we have no policy in place to punish enterprising young goons who get it in their heads to steal your money from you, nor the intention of ever devising such a policy, there exists the possibility that the specific goon with whom you discuss about this topic may not be a genuine handler of this operation. There is also no rule in place to compel even those who are genuinely associated with this project to actually go through with the terms laid out in the OP or with the protection racket: this is entirely a voluntary thing that myself and a few other goons have decided to put together for our personal amusement, and you are depending entirely on a combination of factors which you may not be able to determine ahead of time.
I suppose that probably didn't allay your concerns, eh? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : Theta Squad |
Liddia Thole
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.11.10 19:16:00 -
[182] - Quote
Well so far its a scam. Figured it was. All hail goonswarm. |
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