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greg01
Inglorious-Basterds The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:12:00 -
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How can the Caldari/Amarr Militia take Faction warfare seriously when CCP has a "conflict of interest" involvement in Gallente/Minmatar militias?
My only message to CCP is that this is an absolute disgrace. No other organisation would accept this type of policy. You need to "grow up" and set some standards............
https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie/status/289861379165396992
Hopefully Hans will get the boot from the CSM this year.
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Cromwell Savage
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
107
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:29:00 -
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edit....I'll give you at least a '1'
1/10 |

Ame Sonoda
Requiem of the Sinner
13
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:37:00 -
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thanks, i wasn't going to go to fanfest but this offer of a high five from Fozzie is an opportunity I feel I cannot miss. |

Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
721
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:38:00 -
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Oh man I wish I could go to the Fanfest. SP-DR is recruiting:http://spdr.enjin.com |

Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
457
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:40:00 -
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What conflict of interest?
The Gallente swine all have scraped knees from prolonged begging to CCP to give them a useless 'medal' for being the biggest carebears in FW, and all they seem to get is a promise of a handjob high-five provided they dock their orbit alts for a few days late April (FF).
As for Hans. He served his purpose, his appointment gave CCP a legitimate excuse to work on FW before delving into the dev-nightmare that null revisions will be .. he probably could have done a lot more good for FW had he not been seduced by CCP's plans and used some rational thought to warn them of the pitfalls that he must surely have been aware of. The glitter of Reykjavik got him but good!  |

subtle turtle
In Exile.
90
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:42:00 -
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My god, can we please make FW sov a forum-posting mechanic already? It may be the only way the "losing" side will be able to come back. You could give a % to contest a system for every whiny complaint post to the eve-o forums.
Come to think of it, the minimatar/gallente do as much whiny forum posting as amarr/caldari, so it would probably wind up in 50/50 system control. |

Hidden Snake
Genco Fatal Ascension
235
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:52:00 -
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well ... in civilized corporateworld .... if somebody do this .... ie openly supports someone in tender for solution etc. is usually at least fired from the position or company(paralel is not perfect, but close). CCP unfortunately proved it prefers RP factors and opinion of some biased/interested employees. Well in past if this happened it usually ended up on pages of the gaming press. If you building society based games (most of the MMOs) you have to keep strictly neutral (between oposing sides). Something which was violated in past year or two in FW.
At the end everything is matter of CCP accounting .... if actual aproach is increasing the CCPs profit I understand dooming some players is quite ok - in RL I sometimes do similar decissions about our customers.
But what I see is creating another month or two of isk printing isk alts >>> decreasing price of plexes and destabilizing parts of the market. Happy new fiscal year CCP.
IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |

Hidden Snake
Genco Fatal Ascension
235
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:54:00 -
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subtle turtle wrote:My god, can we please make FW sov a forum-posting mechanic already? It may be the only way the "losing" side will be able to come back. You could give a % to contest a system for every whiny complaint post to the eve-o forums.
Come to think of it, the minimatar/gallente do as much whiny forum posting as amarr/caldari, so it would probably wind up in 50/50 system control.
Actually Amar come back in moment farmers went to Caldari side ..... once they will come backto Amarr .... you will have another round ...not topic of this post but tier system and farmville is broken. IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |

chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
313
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:54:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote:well ... in civilized corporateworld .... if somebody do this .... ie openly supports someone in tender for solution etc. is usually at least fired from the position or company(paralel is not perfect, but close). CCP unfortunately proved it prefers RP factors and opinion of some biased/interested employees. Well in past if this happened it usually ended up on pages of the gaming press. If you building society based games (most of the MMOs) you have to keep strictly neutral (between oposing sides). Something which was violated in past year or two in FW.
At the end everything is matter of CCP accounting .... if actual aproach is increasing the CCPs profit I understand dooming some players is quite ok - in RL I sometimes do similar decissions about our customers.
But what I see is creating another month or two of isk printing isk alts >>> decreasing price of plexes and destabilizing parts of the market. Happy new fiscal year CCP.
Hey you guys got a medal - doesn't look like CCP is doing that anymore, so we get a different prize. |

Antares 04
Eleutherian Guard Villore Accords
47
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Posted - 2013.01.12 17:57:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:What conflict of interest? The Gallente swine all have scraped knees from prolonged begging to CCP to give them a useless 'medal' for being the biggest carebears in FW, and all they seem to get is a promise of a handjob high-five provided they dock their orbit alts for a few days late April (FF). As for Hans. He served his purpose, his appointment gave CCP a legitimate excuse to work on FW before delving into the dev-nightmare that null revisions will be .. he probably could have done a lot more good for FW had he not been seduced by CCP's plans and used some rational thought to warn them of the pitfalls that he must surely have been aware of. The glitter of Reykjavik got him but good! 
Your bitterness sustains me. One day I'll be back in EVE to let the FW fights nourish me as well, but alas, not today.
Until then however, I am totally not enjoying your misery at all.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
313
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Posted - 2013.01.12 18:04:00 -
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I was on the fence about going to fanfest this year, but now. This might just decide it for me :) |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
50
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Posted - 2013.01.12 18:04:00 -
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what u fail to see hidden snake is ccp dont really care about the ingame price of plex coming down that plex has originally been paid for in real life money so if there cheaper in game rmore ppl buy them for real money from ccp to sell on market which is actually good for their accounting seing as tho if someone pays in real cash for 30 days onto there acount its -ú10 but if u buy a plex to sell in game its -ú16 so actually making more money |

Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
457
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Posted - 2013.01.12 18:14:00 -
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What bitterness? What misery?
I am revelling in what appears to be an epic thumbing off from CCP of the Gallente farming horde. We (Amarr/Shakorite) have our farmers of course but thankfully not nearly as bad as 'over there' .. hope is that the Gallente 'victory' spurs CCP into action and FW gets a last series of tweaks that can tide us over until CCP's gaze swings back our way (and save this front from the worst of the stabbed/cloaky=farming nonsense )
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ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
50
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Posted - 2013.01.12 18:18:00 -
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the butthurt is strong |

Mutnin
SQUIDS.
378
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Posted - 2013.01.12 20:18:00 -
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subtle turtle wrote:My god, can we please make FW sov a forum-posting mechanic already? It may be the only way the "losing" side will be able to come back. You could give a % to contest a system for every whiny complaint post to the eve-o forums.
Come to think of it, the minimatar/gallente do as much whiny forum posting as amarr/caldari, so it would probably wind up in 50/50 system control.
FW has always been Forum Wars.. you are slow to the punch.. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
50
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Posted - 2013.01.12 20:29:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:subtle turtle wrote:My god, can we please make FW sov a forum-posting mechanic already? It may be the only way the "losing" side will be able to come back. You could give a % to contest a system for every whiny complaint post to the eve-o forums.
Come to think of it, the minimatar/gallente do as much whiny forum posting as amarr/caldari, so it would probably wind up in 50/50 system control. FW has always been Forum Wars.. you are slow to the punch..
no thats just u cos u wont undock from the safes of high sec |

Mutnin
SQUIDS.
378
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Posted - 2013.01.12 20:41:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:Mutnin wrote:subtle turtle wrote:My god, can we please make FW sov a forum-posting mechanic already? It may be the only way the "losing" side will be able to come back. You could give a % to contest a system for every whiny complaint post to the eve-o forums.
Come to think of it, the minimatar/gallente do as much whiny forum posting as amarr/caldari, so it would probably wind up in 50/50 system control. FW has always been Forum Wars.. you are slow to the punch.. no thats just u cos u wont undock from the safes of high sec
Oh you are just mad I was ahead of the curve. |

Deen Wispa
Justified Chaos
444
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Posted - 2013.01.12 20:49:00 -
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High five. Yeah!
Gallente FW Blog http://iamsheriff.com/blog Recruitment Status: On C'est La Eve :) |

Sura Sadiva
Entropic Tactical Crew
165
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Posted - 2013.01.12 20:52:00 -
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Come on, stop this jealousy non sense. I'm sure CCP Fozzie will give a kiss on the cheek to all of you, regardlss for the faction.
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Shaalira D'arc
Quantum Cats Syndicate Samurai Pizza Cats
631
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Posted - 2013.01.12 22:51:00 -
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QQ about high fives. EVE-O has it all. |
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ground ctrl
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.01.13 05:11:00 -
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subtle turtle wrote:My god, can we please make FW sov a forum-posting mechanic already? It may be the only way the "losing" side will be able to come back. You could give a % to contest a system for every whiny complaint post to the eve-o forums.
Come to think of it, the minimatar/gallente do as much whiny forum posting as amarr/caldari, so it would probably wind up in 50/50 system control.
Posting on the forums, or having alts orbit buttons in empty systems. Are we supposed to prefer one to the other? |

Cynthia Nezmor
Nezmor's Golden Griffins
111
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Posted - 2013.01.13 06:01:00 -
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greg01 wrote:No other organisation would accept this type of policy
You are right. But I find it an even greater challenge to beat the frogs, the mintards, their GM friends and the actual devs working for them.  |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch The Bloody Ronin Syndicate
357
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Posted - 2013.01.13 06:38:00 -
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greg01 wrote:How can the Caldari/Amarr Militia take Faction warfare seriously when CCP has a "conflict of interest" involvement in Gallente/Minmatar militias? My only message to CCP is that this is an absolute disgrace. No other organisation would accept this type of policy. You need to "grow up" and set some standards............ https://twitter.com/CCP_Fozzie/status/289861379165396992Hopefully Hans will get the boot from the CSM this year.
i think fozzie was one of the devs who mastered this victory to gallente , so no wonder. |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Sicarius Draconis
55
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Posted - 2013.01.13 17:07:00 -
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http://clip2net.com/page/m119245/39977195
trolololol |

Doddy
Dark-Rising
830
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Posted - 2013.01.14 10:39:00 -
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Hidden Snake wrote:well ... in civilized corporateworld .... if somebody do this .... ie openly supports someone in tender for solution etc. is usually at least fired from the position or company(paralel is not perfect, but close). CCP unfortunately proved it prefers RP factors and opinion of some biased/interested employees. Well in past if this happened it usually ended up on pages of the gaming press. If you building society based games (most of the MMOs) you have to keep strictly neutral (between oposing sides). Something which was violated in past year or two in FW.
At the end everything is matter of CCP accounting .... if actual aproach is increasing the CCPs profit I understand dooming some players is quite ok - in RL I sometimes do similar decissions about our customers.
But what I see is creating another month or two of isk printing isk alts >>> decreasing price of plexes and destabilizing parts of the market. Happy new fiscal year CCP.
No, in civilised corporate world people running a competition tend to congratulate/reward the winners.
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Arkadi Gavriil
Progressive State State Section 9
2
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Posted - 2013.01.14 11:15:00 -
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subtle turtle wrote:My god, can we please make FW sov a forum-posting mechanic already? It may be the only way the "losing" side will be able to come back. You could give a % to contest a system for every whiny complaint post to the eve-o forums.
Come to think of it, the minimatar/gallente do as much whiny forum posting as amarr/caldari, so it would probably wind up in 50/50 system control.
I think its just a FW thing in general. We all love a good moan/whinge/rant aimed at our opposing factions and were all guilty of it from time to time. It makes downtime go so much quicker  |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1580
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Posted - 2013.01.14 12:03:00 -
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Veshta Yoshida wrote:I am revelling in what appears to be an epic thumbing off from CCP of the Gallente farming horde. We (Amarr/Shakorite) have our farmers of course but thankfully not nearly as bad as 'over there' .. hope is that the Gallente 'victory' spurs CCP into action and FW gets a last series of tweaks that can tide us over until CCP's gaze swings back our way (and save this front from the worst of the stabbed/cloaky=farming nonsense  )
You probably need to stop taking this game so seriously. Mane 614
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Hidden Snake
Genco Fatal Ascension
237
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Posted - 2013.01.14 13:17:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Hidden Snake wrote:well ... in civilized corporateworld .... if somebody do this .... ie openly supports someone in tender for solution etc. is usually at least fired from the position or company(paralel is not perfect, but close). CCP unfortunately proved it prefers RP factors and opinion of some biased/interested employees. Well in past if this happened it usually ended up on pages of the gaming press. If you building society based games (most of the MMOs) you have to keep strictly neutral (between oposing sides). Something which was violated in past year or two in FW.
At the end everything is matter of CCP accounting .... if actual aproach is increasing the CCPs profit I understand dooming some players is quite ok - in RL I sometimes do similar decissions about our customers.
But what I see is creating another month or two of isk printing isk alts >>> decreasing price of plexes and destabilizing parts of the market. Happy new fiscal year CCP.
No, in civilised corporate world people running a competition tend to congratulate/reward the winners.
Well if they get caught red handed several times ... that they openly favouring one or other side they got fired .... surprisingly even in the mess country of East Europe I live in.
I personally fired one idiot who thought launches and golf with vendor is ok .... and of course he was about to sign fat contract for them. IBS recruiting >>> http://ingloriousbs.wordpress.com -á>>> questionable ethics >>> tears >>> happy snakes>>>frog cocktails free?>>>????-áPublic ch.: Basterds on vacation Hans resign from CSM! |

ground ctrl
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:30:00 -
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Devs should play the game.
They shouldn't spawn items for their alliance.
Nor should they make surprise patches when the timing is intended to help their militia.
I am confident that the october 22nd patch was not a surprise patch intended to help gallente.
But the whole surprise patch bit was a bad idea. It did show that ccp doesn't care about faction war at all. It basically told people in faction war "Oh you spent months organizing people and executing a strategy to obtain success? Thats nice, but we couldn't care less. So we will suddenly change the rules literally overnight and completely nullify everything you worked for."
That doesn't happen in any other area of eve except "lolfw." Just look at how many times they warned about the stupid skill changes for battlecruisers. |

Hidden Snake
Genco Fatal Ascension
238
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:50:00 -
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ground ctrl wrote:Devs should play the game.
They shouldn't spawn items for their alliance.
Nor should they make surprise patches when the timing is intended to help their militia.
I am confident that the october 22nd patch was not a surprise patch intended to help gallente.
But the whole surprise patch bit was a bad idea. It did show that ccp doesn't care about faction war at all. It basically told people in faction war "Oh you spent months organizing people and executing a strategy to obtain success? Thats nice, but we couldn't care less. So we will suddenly change the rules literally overnight and completely nullify everything you worked for."
That doesn't happen in any other area of eve except "lolfw." Just look at how many times they warned about the stupid skill changes for battlecruisers.
well historical steps of the 2 developers in gallente militia are quite clear in last year or two ... so (tinfoil hat on) they intentionally helping their faction .... Gallente were very ready for this patch and their "go for tier 4"campaign before patch was very well timed (too well to be unintentional). Last incident on twitter is clearly showing the naked s****t ... and it smells badly. I am just hoping some internal CCP investigations is already sniffing through mails of these two boys.
To CCP attitude to hit and ignore ... well it is one of the CCPs limits to gain average joe players (not the biggest one though).
Based on CCPs conflict of interests I propose all who protest agains CCP Fozzie behaviour ad this to your sig.-á HIGH FIVE is LOW FIVE CCP.-á |
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