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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.23 00:46:00 -
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Is any price a fair price to stop a war that has been declared on your corp?
I have just been told that a PvP corp is demanding 300Mill ISK to stop a war that was declared 12 Hours ago on a small mining\builder corp.
How would you deal with this?? Options I can think of are :----
1. Pay the ransome and risk the war still happening. 2. Hire a merc corp to declare war on the PvP corp. 3. Recruit PvP'ers into the mining corp. 4. Offer bounties for the PvP corp members corpses on the channels. 5. Shut down the mining corp. 6. Ignore the war declaration.
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2005.06.23 00:50:00 -
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Grow some cyber *******s and shoot back.
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Conan O'Brian
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Posted - 2005.06.23 01:25:00 -
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Was it us? ----------
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Pa1nbringr
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Posted - 2005.06.23 03:41:00 -
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id say pay the isk, isk solves everything ;) ----------------------
Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.23 03:48:00 -
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Option 1 and 5 are out as far as I am concerned.
Any other ideas???
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Berilac
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Posted - 2005.06.23 04:19:00 -
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option 1 and/or 5
or option 7. option 7 rocks. --- 'Sweeden Steel Bite hard'
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.06.23 04:56:00 -
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Some merc corps dont ask for ISK.
You could offer them mins at a discount for example.
If you have a member list of the corp that war dec'd you may see some of them have poor sec status. The CEO for example is -3.1 - stay above .9 perhaps?
Alternatively, just stay under the radar. They may get bored.
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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.23 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Berilac option 1 and/or 5
or option 7. option 7 rocks.
I don't understand..... are saying u think they are the best options???
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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.23 06:08:00 -
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Originally by: Deja Thoris Some merc corps dont ask for ISK.
You could offer them mins at a discount for example.
If you have a member list of the corp that war dec'd you may see some of them have poor sec status. The CEO for example is -3.1 - stay above .9 perhaps?
Alternatively, just stay under the radar. They may get bored.
I understand what you are saying about the security status of the members of the PvP Corp but not all of the members have negative standing and I have the feeling not all of the members support the war as the miner corp was a supplier of ships/modules to the PvP corp up untill war being declared. Now all that is in confusion.
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Akaviri
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Posted - 2005.06.23 06:22:00 -
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Originally by: Treborc Also whats option 7?
Originally by: Liu Kaskakka Grow some cyber *******s and shoot back.
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Typherin laidai
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Posted - 2005.06.23 06:29:00 -
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If your corp genuinly cant defend yourself against them....
Sad as it may be (and frustrating) just hide... sit in stations... log. just generally **** them off... just make sure that none of your more stupid members (all corps have them) dont run around and get killed anyway... if you can go a week without a loss chances are the PvP corp will get ****ed off and retract it.. or Yulai will do it for you 
Oh and if you decide to run off to some distant place to NPC or whatever.. DONT dock... that way locator agents cant find you.
Also dont recruit any new members, you dont want spies let in.
Originally by: Eris Discordia *gives Typherin some loving*
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Maxine Stirner
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Posted - 2005.06.23 06:33:00 -
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Yeah. There really should be some professional standardization to this extortion business. (I always wanted to say that. )
It could be a certain given base amount, add a factor [yMillion] times the active size of the extortion corp, add a factor [zISK] for the size of the losers or their combined sp in extrapolated months, add [.75-1.5] times any interim losses and prior or incipient losses [1-1.25].
This would be helpful because then those miners can sit there and plot it out on their work/time excel graphs and decide a superior payment plan and average interest rates over the financing period. This would help them get back to the negotiators sooner just before they knuckle under completely.
I should go into the consulting or negotiating business for a standard 5-10% fee.
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.06.23 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Treborc
Originally by: Berilac option 1 and/or 5
or option 7. option 7 rocks.
I don't understand..... are saying u think they are the best options???
Also whats option 7?
Option 7 is FIGHTBACK ----------
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LoveBear
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Posted - 2005.06.23 08:43:00 -
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When i was a young nublet and the noob corp i was in was declared upon we decided that we should not give in. Nor would we fight on their terms. We moved all our stuff to other places (we had been scouted out) and started making plans on how we should survive.
We decided to try some form of guerilla warfare. Stay away from their gankers and try to sneak up on them when they werent expecting it.
There was alot of hiding and running. they camped us and ridiculed us in local (all in a very amusing non-smack way).
Now when i look back i think it was probably the best times in my eve career and i still consider some of those guys my friends.
We lost a few ships of course but we also scored a few kills. We made alot of mistakes and learned alot by doing them.
My point is that you should try to fight back. You dont need to fight on their terms but its always good for the confidence to not give in.
Dont pay them, dont ignore them, dont listen if they complain that you dont fight the way they want you to. Fight them your way and have fun doing it. And who knows, some of them might even turn out to be ppl that you enjoy chatting with and continue to do so for the rest of your gaming career.
and, of course, they might turn out to be complete bastards. In that case they shouldnt get any of your isk anyway and my experience is that those guys usually have less patience and move along faster to try to find other ppl they can gank. good luck
LoveBear
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ASIV TRE
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Posted - 2005.06.23 08:55:00 -
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I agree with the above try and fight back if you can try and stay in a large group and not get picked off.
If you find your getting hammered then look at other solutions.
You prob find the pvp action fun.
But never pay them!!! You're better off paying mercs 
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.06.23 09:04:00 -
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Fight fire with fire.
Hire a decent merc corp, to decimate this half assed charlie team.
Job done.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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Dahin
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Posted - 2005.06.23 10:04:00 -
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mmmm, why don't you drop me a mail/convo so we can discuss it?
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Kris Longknife
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Posted - 2005.06.23 10:48:00 -
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Option 8. Make alts transfer all your ISK to them, dont play the main characters for a month...
They wont know what to do...
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.06.23 10:49:00 -
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Buy a couple of frigate BPC's enough to make twenty or so frigates. Then go out and swarm them.
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Semjac
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Posted - 2005.06.23 11:16:00 -
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Thanks for all your postings, please keep them coming.
Not all members of the PvP corp actually want this war or even understand the reason, so hiring a merc corp to help out would not be fair on them.
Also the membership of the mining/building corp are leaving in droves as thats not the reason they signed up for, so it could be a dead corp very soon as its the people who make it.
I think the ideas being discussed here will help other corps when placed in the same situation in the future.
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Layrex
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Posted - 2005.06.23 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Roshan longshot Buy a couple of frigate BPC's enough to make twenty or so frigates. Then go out and swarm them.
Agreed, travel fast and together, you might end up picking off one or two lone bs's. That'll **** them off. 
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Kaleeb
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Posted - 2005.06.23 11:21:00 -
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Fightback in cheap frigs, you will probably have alot of fun! and it wont break the bank.
Or if your that scared of losing a 200k ship then hire a merc corp (alot of them out there are crap and jumped on to MC's bandwagon If you take the merc route shop around... Some examples...kia,any of the MC, Cult of Cuthulu, depends on how much isk you have tbh.
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GinoShin
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Posted - 2005.06.23 11:54:00 -
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isk makes all your pain go away
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.06.23 12:31:00 -
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For 300 million you can hire mercs to watch over you for quite some time.
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mortitia sith
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Posted - 2005.06.23 12:52:00 -
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have a discussion with the other corp since you had business between the 2 corps it s very weird they re trying to war you thats damaging both corps , since if the war continues i think you will not be supplying em anymore, hence theyre cutting their arm and leg off might just be someone has been stepped on his(her) toes and this war declaration is just a big ego that needs some love
but never never give money if you do that once they can declare everytime they re low on isks , you ll be harvested continiously
wonder what they need the 300 mil for ?
so talk , it will probably be a personal thing . just make sure you have all ships insured and take off the best gear, fill em with just expendable gear. and watch local if they come in system warp away, use secure cans to mine or when using jettisoned always have a hauler directly next to it avoiding the enemie will make em get bored . if the discussion does not work out , then geurilla fight and the folks leaving , well too bad for em . if they go because of a war they why are they in a corp?
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Tad Ghostal
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Posted - 2005.06.23 13:01:00 -
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You will find that in a situation like this, option #2 is the only real option if you want to preserve your corp. Never pay out to pirate/pvp corps in this way, they will absolutely come back every time they need an influx of funds. And the money you would give to them is much better spent on mercenaries, it's guaranteed that if you do that, as well as use some careful planning as far as mining and so forth, your enemy will definitely start to feel it if the merc corp is of good quality.
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2005.06.23 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tad Ghostal You will find that in a situation like this, option #2 is the only real option if you want to preserve your corp. Never pay out to pirate/pvp corps in this way, they will absolutely come back every time they need an influx of funds. And the money you would give to them is much better spent on mercenaries, it's guaranteed that if you do that, as well as use some careful planning as far as mining and so forth, your enemy will definitely start to feel it if the merc corp is of good quality.
That is utter rubbish, once a corp has paid the majority of corps will leave them alone, and if they are attacked the extortionist might even dec the attackers. Having said that another options is to hire a respected merc corp, such as ATUF, to deal with the transgressor 
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NumBerGuy
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Posted - 2005.06.23 13:42:00 -
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pay a merc corp the 300 mill to shoot them
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DeathGrip
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Posted - 2005.06.23 13:56:00 -
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I use to run a Produciton type corp. When war was declared on it I had no freaken idea what to do myself, and just hid. After a while started losing members and so forth and had to start over again. Knowing what I know now, if you have 10+ active members, get into cheap frigs/interceptors/af's/cruisers (Noctice nothing to expensive, use frigs/cruisers and insurance pays for your loss, and give these guys a fight. They will get bored of killing nothing but frigs and cruisers, and after a while you may get good and be able to kill a few of them for some revenge.
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navert
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Posted - 2005.06.23 14:15:00 -
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Never give bullies money.
Give them what they don't want.....nothing to shoot at. Scatter in about 3 groups, and go somewhere and hide. Heck, put on long skill training and play Guild Wars for two weeks. Since is costs a corp next to nothing to dec War and grief a small mining/production corp for weeks.
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Karl Savage
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Posted - 2005.06.23 20:07:00 -
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Heres a few bits of advice from someone who wages war like this.
1) Don't panic. 2) Don't whine on the forums - people will learn of your existance and come after you themselves eventually. 3) Always fight back - at least to start (It's fun and a valuable learning tool) 4) Have fun with it but try not to fly what you can't easily replace. 5) If it get's too much, pay them off.
General advice here
If you're a small corp and the money demanded to end the war is paltry (300 mil is paltry really) you are better off spending the ISK to pay the attackers off than hiring mercs. I say this because Mercs work for a set period of time usually and the attackers can easily sit it out until the contract expires. Once that's done they can and probably will come back, royally ****ed at you for setting mercs on them.
Most extortionists will take the money (or other assets to the same value) and leave you alone. In fact, some may even stick up for you in the future should someone else go after you.
What you really don't want to do is draw attention to yourselves, so keeping your business off the forums is essential otherwise you are inviting other like minder corps to do the same to you since they know you are a vulnerable target.
Running to a new corporation to evade the war upsets extortionists and they will remember you for it. They will keep on coming back and hurting you over and over and over again.
Sucking it up and meeting the enemy head on will earn you respect from a lot of extortionist corps - even if you get trounced. You are far more likely to get a more reasonable resolution to the war if you keep it friendly and don't stark smacking.
Lastly, if you are adamant about not giving into their demands and/or can't pay the fee, just sit it out for a while and be patient. They will move on when they get bored.
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Dionysus Davinci
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Posted - 2005.06.23 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: navert Give them what they don't want.....nothing to shoot at. Scatter in about 3 groups, and go somewhere and hide. Heck, put on long skill training and play Guild Wars for two weeks. Since is costs a corp next to nothing to dec War and grief a small mining/production corp for weeks.
Worst advice ever, fight back. Use inexpensive ships against their tech 2 ships. Running and sticking your head in the hole when someone fights you will never get you into 0.0 where the real money is.
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FatBalls
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Posted - 2005.06.24 07:26:00 -
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I do not understand 90 percent of the people here. Somone might have paid them to dec them and when that happens a lot of people get ship replacment so it is not going to **** them off to lose a ship/ I would also like to say that not hiring a merc corp to fight them due to not everyone in the corp wanting to be at war with you is also nonsense. The others do want the war and it is tearing apart what you have built and why would you let it go gently into the night ? Hire a merc corp who lives for this stuff. Hire two or three ffs and punish them. I know that we have two open slots atm and I am sure many others do as well. We come with references from very large production corps who would say that we have stopped wars within the day their are others we were not as lucky to have done in a day but we have never surendered and our foes always' have making the production corp the winner in the end for a minimal amount of isk you have won and others will think twice about decing you in the future.
Anyway, it is 3 a.m. and I am probably babbling but if it were me pay the guys off or simply hire us to help a out :)
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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.24 07:38:00 -
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Update from the War Front :---
Earlier today while I was at work the first shots were fired in this war declared for no other reason than 'We are broke'.
Now that it has really started I nolonger feel the need to speak of the agressor as a PvP corp but name them as being 'Killer Clowns From Outer Space' and the miner/builder corp as being 'Hellhound Industries'
The first casualty was a newbie who was only a day old who joined 'HellHounds' after being warned that we were at war. Poor 'Semjac' with skills of a newbie and a rookie ship was pod killed within hours of his application being accepted.
Therefore after much consideration a further option has been identified and will now be implemented.
Option 8.
(a) Advise corp members to not exit stations currently docked at, and to setup shop buying/selling on the local market. (b) Sub-contract out all mining activities to other corps. (c) Start building up ships and ammo stocks for sale and supply to other players as needed. (d) Offer sanctuary to any PvP player, pirate, bored miner alts, and homeless ship killers who want to have a chance to kill other players with impacting their Concord security standing while roaming within Empire space. (e) Put out corpse contracts on identified 'Killer Clowns' members (f) Increase 'Killer Clowns' members Concord bounties for each identified player and renew them once a week untill end of war. (g) Offer rewards for 'Killer Clown' member details not already held. (h) Advise everyone who asks to check 'HellHound Industries' Corporate BIO for War status details. (Bounties, Contracts, Target lists, Signup bonuses)
So now we defend ourselves to the best of our abilities, with the support of our friends and customers.
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V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.06.24 08:09:00 -
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Killer Clowns From Outer Space, \0/
Back in the game and already causing trouble i see :) ----------
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Regma
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Posted - 2005.06.24 08:54:00 -
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Build your members a bunch of T1 frigs, get on TS and go out there and fight.
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Karmic
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Posted - 2005.06.24 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Treborc
2. Hire a merc corp to declare war on the PvP corp.
Talk to Hygelac, Farjung, Squagel, Charity Regard or Cabadrin in-game. I'm all up for hunting filthy hobbitseys. - - - - - - - - -
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.24 09:10:00 -
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Edited by: Elaine Marley on 24/06/2005 09:15:33 In my Opinion 300 Mills is a nice offer.
1. Pay the ransome and risk the war still happening. Usually if the ransom it paid, the war is going to be over at that point. Offer 5 wouldnt bring you that much because i guess they wardec the new corp either.
2. Hire a merc corp to declare war on the PvP corp. Possible idea, but that wouldnt bring a lot of benefits in my eyes.
3. Recruit PvP'ers into the mining corp. It might happen that the Fee is going to be more to be paid.
4. Offer bounties for the PvP corp members corpses on the channels. Thats not worth it, i wouldnt go for it. Since you shoot 3 NPC and have more isk then most ppl offer bounty. Anyways too much fool with that too tho.
5. Shut down the mining corp. That might be an option but if you leave the corp, they might wardec the new etc. pp.
6. Ignore the war declaration. That might really hurt, because if you ignore it, and your members got fragged they will not help you either anymore.
7. Pay the Ransom stop the war. That might be a nice option either 
ROFL:
Fightback in cheap frigs, you will probably have alot of fun! and it wont break the bank. Or if your that scared of losing a 200k ship then hire a merc corp (alot of them out there are crap and jumped on to MC's bandwagon If you take the merc route shop around... Some examples...kia,any of the MC, Cult of Cuthulu, depends on how much isk you have tbh. LOL as seen from the DNA videos one apoc vs plenty of Frigs. IT WAS A NICE VID! Download it laugh a lot. AND think about coming in frigs =). Thx to DNA for this VID BTW
Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.24 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: V2GBR Killer Clowns From Outer Space, \0/
Back in the game and already causing trouble i see :)
WFTW =)  Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.24 09:41:00 -
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I am at a lose on what is an good bounty, one that will ensure that a person will be looking over their should when ever they leave station.
And how do you ensure that the said pod death has occured, is a corpse able to be always provided?
Is 5 million enough to get the job done or is it 10 million??
And is a corp wide bounty applicable?
As you can see above the CEO of the PvP corp has no intention of leaving the Miner corp alone untill he's been paid, and does not care that in the process forces its memebers to resign and join other corps possibly destroying the miner corp in the process.
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.24 10:31:00 -
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Well you are right. No intention as evil as we come.
You could proof that with corpse for sure. But give me a reason, why you want to make more angry that wouldnt help vs. this thingy. A ransome has to be paid, even if its one isk or 1 Billion. ¦ And if you hire merc worth 300 Mills you could even pay the ransom.
That corp isnt that small not in its amount.
Just think about my offer, and convo me before you call the police. 
Poy da Elaine Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

V2GBR
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Posted - 2005.06.24 10:44:00 -
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Edited by: V2GBR on 24/06/2005 10:44:40 WFTW ?
Im feel so dumb having to ask :( ----------
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:11:00 -
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War for the win! Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:30:00 -
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If you want to end this war swiftly. Then you have no choice except to pay the ransome.
If you decide to hire a merc corp, then hire a good one, dont bother wasting your money on the wannabees out there, as Killer Clowns would wipe the floor with them and then with you. MC CoC MASS (KIA are currently engaged in multiple Allinace Target Contracts, as such we are not free, and tbh, you couldn't afford us) would be an example of a good mer corp, I will leave it to the good members of these forums to point you towards the nubs that aren't worth hiring.
Hiring a merc corp, would probably keep KC of you for a while, and may even see the war dec dropped. When KIA are hired in, we also take ALL available resources from the contractor, and train those resoiurces to fight. This normally enables the contractor, after the back of the aggressor is broken by KIA, to defend itself from any die hard agrressors left. MAKE sure the people you hire are willing to do this also.
This game is nothing more than agame, so whatever outcome will make you happier, do it.
Hiding and running, is no fun and will not gain you anything long term
If you would like anymore advice, contact me in game.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
CEO of KIA Corp - Been doing it for the Laydeez since 1993, now we i |

MegaJ
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Posted - 2005.06.24 11:43:00 -
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Typical killer clowns picking on mining/production corps, grow some balls.
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.24 12:23:00 -
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Originally by: MegaJ Typical killer clowns picking on mining/production corps, grow some balls.
There is no need to grow our balls.
But you might get some Ball implants tho Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Entity
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Posted - 2005.06.24 15:49:00 -
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Originally by: MegaJ Typical killer clowns picking on mining/production corps, grow some balls.
*cough*
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.06.24 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: navert Never give bullies money.
Give them what they don't want.....nothing to shoot at. Scatter in about 3 groups, and go somewhere and hide. Heck, put on long skill training and play Guild Wars for two weeks. Since is costs a corp next to nothing to dec War and grief a small mining/production corp for weeks.
What i dont understand of this mentality really is that your not playing eve, so where is the fun in it for you hiding and running and staying docked. I mean they can do the same thing or persue other targets while your living afraid. IMO talk with the people attacking you and see if you can get something worked out. Mercs is another good option but depending on the corp attacking you they could quite well be better pvp'ers then alot of these pretend mercs. Also then your just giving them so good fun targets still. ---------------
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Crayathan
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Posted - 2005.06.25 08:14:00 -
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Isn't it a shame when people from other legit corps scout for these people, wouldn't you say leno

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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.06.25 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Entity Edited by: Entity on 24/06/2005 16:28:14
Originally by: MegaJ Typical killer clowns picking on mining/production corps, grow some balls.
*cough* 
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Sweetpain
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Posted - 2005.06.25 11:38:00 -
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When you cut away all the wrappings then your left with only what to expect from a clown and not.
All i know is what i expect is someone that dress silly, talk silly, act silly and basically can not be taken serious in any way. and yes Killer clowns from outer space is no exception, well maybe there is one exception since normally clows are adults entertaining children, while the clowns in this game seam to be children trying to entertain other children.
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.06.25 11:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sweetpain When you cut away all the wrappings then your left with only what to expect from a clown and not.
All i know is what i expect is someone that dress silly, talk silly, act silly and basically can not be taken serious in any way. and yes Killer clowns from outer space is no exception, well maybe there is one exception since normally clows are adults entertaining children, while the clowns in this game seam to be children trying to entertain other children.
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Billybob Blue
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Posted - 2005.06.25 14:11:00 -
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hello elaine and fellow killer clowns... hope your having a good day.
since you are trying to make some easy isk from some carebear corp, i only think its fair i make some as well.
unless you or one of your corp mates pay me 100mill isk before 2005.06.23 23:59 i will start posting on this thread one name at a time the complete memebrship list of killer clowns for all too see and then as information comes to hand a list of your alts and then your members alts and then your moles in the other carebear corps........
oh and by the way the price for me stopping this public airing of killer clowns dirty linen goes up 10 mill per hour after the deadline......inflation you know.....expenses .... bribes .... new suit ....... new shoes...... raven with blue racing strips ..... titan bpo .....mmmmmm
and i must thank publicaly my source inside killer clowns..... so to be fair i will name you last giving you plenty of time to convince your fellow members to pay up.
HAVE A NICE DAY .............................
and btw ............ I LOVE THIS GAME>>>>>>>>
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The Revenger
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Posted - 2005.06.25 14:37:00 -
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go bob go :O
dont ever pay the bastards. they dont deserve your isk.
what you also can do is make friends of a pvp corp. make deals with them for selling mineral to thm for good prices if they help you defend your corp.
when some newbie pvp corp declared on my corp i let a few buddys in that killed there bs and then they runned away.
you can also make multiple corps with alts and corphop they will need to declare multiple corps what will cost them alot 
or yust bore the to death and play with alts or play another game like battlefield 2 or guildwars. best is when you still have eve running while playing other game. so that they are camping a afk char 
or you build indeed a fleet of cheapass frigs/cruisers and go fight and that way learn a bit abouth pvp. but if you dont like pvp then dont do that. they will have funn killing your figs. pvp corps want big killnumbers to let them feel uber |

Billybob Blue
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Posted - 2005.06.26 01:22:00 -
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Edited by: Billybob Blue on 26/06/2005 01:23:18 hello elaine and fellow killer clowns... hope your having a good day cause mine is FANTASTIC
nothing like relaxing with the miss'es at a pleasure dome moon resort after a hard mission.
the time has pased and i see no respones from yourself or fellow corpmates, and i take this as your demand to see some of my cards........so here is one or two or more.........
its several actually cause i am feeling generous.
'elaine marley' ceo of killer clowns current security status -3.1 current concord bounty 7,089,824.00 isk. she has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made.
'skillz' founder of killer clowns now second in command current secuirty status -2.3 current concord bounty 1,125,000.00 isk. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made.
'Mishima' current security status -1.8 current concord bounty 4,005,000.oo isk. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. by the way one of your recent carebear kills is still laughing when i interviewed him at his corporate health spa holiday after being re-cloned. what u shoot him with?????
please understand that attempts to find me via location agents will lead you to me ship and pod currently stored with scotty #12543 the station manager several jumps away from my current location. this will also mean i cannot clear my email currently being received by my pod.
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DarkStar251
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Posted - 2005.06.26 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Treborc (f) Increase 'Killer Clowns' members Concord bounties for each identified player and renew them once a week untill end of war.
LOL they will more than likely be PLEASED about that.
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Solarfury
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Posted - 2005.06.26 05:34:00 -
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If you pay to stop the war, you will have more of those corps declare war on you. So whatever you do, don't pay the ransome. Just stay off the game for a week, let them bored out of their mind then they will no renew the war. Or if you really don't want to fight the war, just form a corp channel ask all the members to go there then let them leave the corp. Once the war is over you guys can join back. Yeah, it is kind of cheap but it is not like declare war purly just want ransome is any better in the first place.
The best tactics to end war that you don't want is to bored them to death. If you hire merc, fight the war yourself but knowing you wouldn't win or offer bounties will only make wars renew on you. Based on what you stated, I think it is best to just create and corp channel then leave to corp to wait it out. Leave the ceo alone in the corp. You guys still can mine and talk to each other without worry about being attacked.
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2005.06.26 06:02:00 -
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Originally by: Crayathan Isn't it a shame when people from other legit corps scout for these people, wouldn't you say leno

Not when Leno and the bad Canon man is the same person 
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.06.26 08:25:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: Crayathan Isn't it a shame when people from other legit corps scout for these people, wouldn't you say leno

Not when Leno and the bad Canon man is the same person 
/me hands ruffio a cookie... and you couldnt even figure it out until i told you... ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Coasterbrian > babies are good, especially raw Coasterbrian > soft and crunchy at the same time
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Ruffio Sepico
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Posted - 2005.06.26 10:14:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: Crayathan Isn't it a shame when people from other legit corps scout for these people, wouldn't you say leno

Not when Leno and the bad Canon man is the same person 
/me hands ruffio a cookie... and you couldnt even figure it out until i told you...
Sorry but you guys got to many alts to try keep track of as it is. A member of sharks is kind of the least place we would be looking for a pirate who take part extort and blackmail at such a level.
Another question is? How will the MC maintain their credability and neutraility required for their line of work when allowing a member of theirs doing what you do 
Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk HiD Kills: http://eve.hidden-agenda.co.uk/kill_list.php
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Billybob Blue
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Posted - 2005.06.26 11:03:00 -
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hello elaine and fellow killer clowns... hope your having a good day cause mine was FANTASTIC untill i tried to getup and walk to back the guest room after sitting by the pool drinking the bartenders idea of a*****tail for several hours.
Isn;t technology grand, cause scotty #12543 has figured out a way that i can forward my mail message on directly to my implants.....only problem due to the distances involved it takes a long time. but lets get on with this message i am writing you as its being sent from a in-secure terminal in the reception area of the hot mineral pool complex.
No offers, no messages, no emails, and its not due to none of the Killer clowns being online.....my assistence was so kind to rig up a little system whr i know who and when they log and is currently talking to some Gallente about a tracking system that will tell where they are.
So here's another serving of names........
#4 'nerovar' fairly new member current secuirty status -0.5 current concord bounty NIL. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. a wanabe pirate after being around as long as he has.
#5 'elebereth' member of little time current secuirty status -3.5 current concord bounty 5,000.00 isk. she has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. Such a large bounty for a person with such a small history of being successfully bad
$6 'liza anderson' a serial leaver of the corp current secuirty status -0.2 current concord bounty NIL isk. she has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. She can't bring herself to truely be what she wants to be.... a carebear ... so has join the corp to hide from the truth
#7 'xtreamer' the good guy.. defender of the carebears...current secuirty status 1.7 current concord bounty NIL isk. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. This guy points the whole credo of the corp to shame and no explained could be found by my information why he was still in the corp
#8 'tronic man1' current secuirty status -4.1 current concord bounty 5,000.00 isk. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. what i can;t understand is the size of his bounty..... i thought a measure of such a persons worth ini corp as this is by how big it is.......what is this telling me and you
stay tuned for more tips on how to avoid the pool girls advances while the wifee watches .... later
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Avon
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Posted - 2005.06.26 11:07:00 -
[62]
NEWSFLASH. Posting "Show Info" information for current corp members isn't exactly the sort of thing that corps care about. ______________________________________________ Pay or pray..er..prey..yeah, pray you aren't prey. Er, just pay. |

Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.26 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: Billybob Blue hello elaine and fellow killer clowns... hope your having a good day.
since you are trying to make some easy isk from some carebear corp, i only think its fair i make some as well.
unless you or one of your corp mates pay me 100mill isk before 2005.06.23 23:59 i will start posting on this thread one name at a time the complete memebrship list of killer clowns for all too see and then as information comes to hand a list of your alts and then your members alts and then your moles in the other carebear corps........
oh and by the way the price for me stopping this public airing of killer clowns dirty linen goes up 10 mill per hour after the deadline......inflation you know.....expenses .... bribes .... new suit ....... new shoes...... raven with blue racing strips ..... titan bpo .....mmmmmm
and i must thank publicaly my source inside killer clowns..... so to be fair i will name you last giving you plenty of time to convince your fellow members to pay up.
HAVE A NICE DAY .............................
and btw ............ I LOVE THIS GAME>>>>>>>>
DID you try to copy my ransom? hehe wardec pls that we have another target
OMGKTHXBYE by the way post with main redneck Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.26 19:32:00 -
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5.) I am in Uphallant! So pls everybody come waste your carebear mission sec stat and was a cn raven on me.
Come with your main and pls stop spamming the forum, you dont get cookies, you dont get milk and not even a cake.
But how about a big cup of STFU? Thats free and the big boys could discuss... Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.26 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Avon NEWSFLASH. Posting "Show Info" information for current corp members isn't exactly the sort of thing that corps care about.
Could you tell me how please, cause it looks like I am back in a war again.
Get up this morning log on all looks cool, come back from making breakfast and there it is...... a war declaration .... and then i log in here and see there's been a heap of activity on this post.
Based on the timing's of the posts I think I must thank Billybob Blue for stiring the pot and if your not reading your evemail.....here's a big THANKS in advance.
Your offer of selling me the list will have to be looked more seriously now but I don't like your style of doing business.
So in the next 24 hours watcht this space all you free lancers and wanabe PvP'ers could be a chance for you to try out those new skills and modules.
CEO Hellhound Industries. Miners, Traders and Builders to the masses.
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.26 20:12:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Treborc
Originally by: Avon NEWSFLASH. Posting "Show Info" information for current corp members isn't exactly the sort of thing that corps care about.
Could you tell me how please, cause it looks like I am back in a war again.
Get up this morning log on all looks cool, come back from making breakfast and there it is...... a war declaration .... and then i log in here and see there's been a heap of activity on this post.
Based on the timing's of the posts I think I must thank Billybob Blue for stiring the pot and if your not reading your evemail.....here's a big THANKS in advance.
Your offer of selling me the list will have to be looked more seriously now but I don't like your style of doing business.
So in the next 24 hours watcht this space all you free lancers and wanabe PvP'ers could be a chance for you to try out those new skills and modules.
Yeah joining an alliance and unjoin em doesnt prevent you from war. the only benefit is that we are in war with both for the same price next 3 weeks =)
THXALOT Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

MegaJ
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Posted - 2005.06.26 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Entity Edited by: Entity on 24/06/2005 16:28:14
Originally by: MegaJ Typical killer clowns picking on mining/production corps, grow some balls.
*cough* 
You lot left FA during a war so we decided to give you some extra after that war ended. You know what pvp/defending yourself is like, but sure pretend your production only.
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Charity Regard
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Posted - 2005.06.26 20:56:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: Crayathan Isn't it a shame when people from other legit corps scout for these people, wouldn't you say leno

Not when Leno and the bad Canon man is the same person 
/me hands ruffio a cookie... and you couldnt even figure it out until i told you...
Sorry but you guys got to many alts to try keep track of as it is. A member of sharks is kind of the least place we would be looking for a pirate who take part extort and blackmail at such a level.
Another question is? How will the MC maintain their credability and neutraility required for their line of work when allowing a member of theirs doing what you do 
Mr. Sepico,
As a current leader in Sharks, I appreciate your concern and I want to assure you that we take matters like this quite seriously. As a member of the Mercenary Coalition, we are constantly striving for professionalism and total neutrality and obviously Leno's actions have fallen outside those boundries.
The truth is, Leno is a very naughty boy at heart and couldnt help but get involved with naughty people. After gagging him with my white cotton panties so that we couldnt hear him scream, he was given a proper spanking and the opportunity to repent his mischievous antics. He informed us that he just couldnt part ways with his inner bad boy and has decided to part ways with [FRICK].
We do apologize for his naughty deeds and want to assure you that Sharks, as well as the rest of the Mercenary Coalition take our neutrality & professionalism very seriously. As you say, it is a matter of credibility, without it, we dont have jobs.
xOxo, Charity Regard
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.06.26 21:06:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Leno on 26/06/2005 21:07:44
Originally by: Charity Regard
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: Leno
Originally by: Ruffio Sepico
Originally by: Crayathan Isn't it a shame when people from other legit corps scout for these people, wouldn't you say leno

Not when Leno and the bad Canon man is the same person 
/me hands ruffio a cookie... and you couldnt even figure it out until i told you...
Sorry but you guys got to many alts to try keep track of as it is. A member of sharks is kind of the least place we would be looking for a pirate who take part extort and blackmail at such a level.
Another question is? How will the MC maintain their credability and neutraility required for their line of work when allowing a member of theirs doing what you do 
Mr. Sepico,
As a current leader in Sharks, I appreciate your concern and I want to assure you that we take matters like this quite seriously. As a member of the Mercenary Coalition, we are constantly striving for professionalism and total neutrality and obviously Leno's actions have fallen outside those boundries.
The truth is, Leno is a very naughty boy at heart and couldnt help but get involved with naughty people. After gagging him with my white cotton panties so that we couldnt hear him scream, he was given a proper spanking and the opportunity to repent his mischievous antics. He informed us that he just couldnt part ways with his inner bad boy and has decided to part ways with [FRICK].
We do apologize for his naughty deeds and want to assure you that Sharks, as well as the rest of the Mercenary Coalition take our neutrality & professionalism very seriously. As you say, it is a matter of credibility, without it, we dont have jobs.
xOxo, Charity Regard
sadly I have become to naughty for frick so have decided to move to ATUF where i can be as naughty as i want \o/
EDIT: oh and btw up until a month ago FRICK pirated too, sadly they have abandoned this  ---------------
RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Coasterbrian > babies are good, especially raw Coasterbrian > soft and crunchy at the same time
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Gold Tooth
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:09:00 -
[70]
Killer clowns, They are begining to sound like my kind of folk. Remember guys there is nothing wrong with a few pirates thining out the herd. Someone has to thin out the sick ones from the good stock. So look at it this way, they are doing u guys a service so its best to pay the ransom and move on. Who knows U might like it 
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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.27 02:47:00 -
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Just had a call from Lady Silverwolf advising me that the CEO of Killer Clowns has been harrasing her yet again in chat channels.
She told me that the war is nothing more than a personal vendetta against herself and myself. Nothing less than the total destruction of Hellhounds and the removal from the game of our two accounts, yes accounts not characters is wanted.
THAT IS NOT ROLE PLAY OR GAME PLAY.......... THAT IS GRIEFING
But neither I or Lady plan to leave.......
We have no plans now or in the future to pay any ransom to any person or corporation. Instead we have decided to use all the resources we can muster to protect our right to enjoy the game.
Therefore we ask any and all persons of high or low standing who would like to help to pay attention to this forum for new threads regarding how 'Hellhound Industries' the miner/builder corporation stood up to the bully tastics of a corp thiefs alt account abuse of position as ceo of a pirate corporation. CEO Hellhound Industries. Miners, Traders and Builders to the masses.
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Khargos
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Posted - 2005.06.27 03:30:00 -
[72]
option 8, do a barrel roll!
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.27 06:23:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Treborc Just had a call from Lady Silverwolf advising me that the CEO of Killer Clowns has been harrasing her yet again in chat channels.
She told me that the war is nothing more than a personal vendetta against herself and myself. Nothing less than the total destruction of Hellhounds and the removal from the game of our two accounts, yes accounts not characters is wanted.
THAT IS NOT ROLE PLAY OR GAME PLAY.......... THAT IS GRIEFING
But neither I or Lady plan to leave.......
We have no plans now or in the future to pay any ransom to any person or corporation. Instead we have decided to use all the resources we can muster to protect our right to enjoy the game.
Therefore we ask any and all persons of high or low standing who would like to help to pay attention to this forum for new threads regarding how 'Hellhound Industries' the miner/builder corporation stood up to the bully tastics of a corp thiefs alt account abuse of position as ceo of a pirate corporation.
Its not a personal Harrass... She asked me if its infact of other Persons that left HiHo...NO I said in other words, there is nothing to prevent the Fee from beeing paid. And pls, check out who the bossman is... your the ceo but your lady has the word lol
Every victim is welcome....
TIME TO BE LOCKED BEFORE YOU THINK ITS GOING PERSONAL OUTTA POD XP....
WAR IS WAR ppl might be ****ed, ppl might fight. But most just pay the ransom fee to avoid the circus.
NEW IN THE SHOW: Clowns in a BOX coming - Delivered in your local by any clown. He comes in a fancy smancy re penalty box. $ Priceless Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Billybob Blue
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Posted - 2005.06.27 11:04:00 -
[74]
let me start off by giving everyone a very important piece of advise regarding pool girls...... don't do anything to encourage their flirting even when the wifee is not around... cause you never know when they turn out to be the underage daughter of the local security chief working part time before going off to university next year.
man am i in hot water.... i'm sending this message via my impants using my lawyers modile data entry terminal sitting on a table outside the jail cell i'm currently sitting in.... the wifee won't bail me out cause she thinks the girls not lying ........ the security chief believes her of cause .... and my rent-a-dent lawyer i hired has only now turned up.
i can;t even check this forum to see whats happening let alone clear my emails on me pod so be cool peoples and i will return just as soon as the security cameras data is downloaded and collated......should take another 12 hours according to the lawyer..... typical .... nice resort to holiday in but nothing to help you clear your name.
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.27 11:21:00 -
[75]
Yeah i guess. Must be hot in Florida.... Girls who bark dont bite...i dont say a word ... Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Trina Tron
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Posted - 2005.06.27 14:42:00 -
[76]
Offer them less money if they dont accapted id hire a merc corp if you get a good one that dosent have much to do there verry cost effcitve. For expampled my corp has had well over 1:10 ratio in cost to emploery vs cost to target then agian we have had it much lower like 1:3 all deepends on what were doing as a corp and how much game time people are on. Still a good deal imho. --------------------------------------------------- + = me! |

berzerk88
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Posted - 2005.06.27 15:40:00 -
[77]
Billybob Blue .. lol?
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Lord Randalf
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Posted - 2005.06.27 16:11:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Billybob Blue hello elaine and fellow killer clowns... hope your having a good day cause mine was FANTASTIC untill i tried to getup and walk to back the guest room after sitting by the pool drinking the bartenders idea of a*****tail for several hours.
Isn;t technology grand, cause scotty #12543 has figured out a way that i can forward my mail message on directly to my implants.....only problem due to the distances involved it takes a long time. but lets get on with this message i am writing you as its being sent from a in-secure terminal in the reception area of the hot mineral pool complex.
No offers, no messages, no emails, and its not due to none of the Killer clowns being online.....my assistence was so kind to rig up a little system whr i know who and when they log and is currently talking to some Gallente about a tracking system that will tell where they are.
So here's another serving of names........
#4 'nerovar' fairly new member current secuirty status -0.5 current concord bounty NIL. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. a wanabe pirate after being around as long as he has.
#5 'elebereth' member of little time current secuirty status -3.5 current concord bounty 5,000.00 isk. she has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. Such a large bounty for a person with such a small history of being successfully bad
$6 'liza anderson' a serial leaver of the corp current secuirty status -0.2 current concord bounty NIL isk. she has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. She can't bring herself to truely be what she wants to be.... a carebear ... so has join the corp to hide from the truth
#7 'xtreamer' the good guy.. defender of the carebears...current secuirty status 1.7 current concord bounty NIL isk. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. This guy points the whole credo of the corp to shame and no explained could be found by my information why he was still in the corp
#8 'tronic man1' current secuirty status -4.1 current concord bounty 5,000.00 isk. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. what i can;t understand is the size of his bounty..... i thought a measure of such a persons worth ini corp as this is by how big it is.......what is this telling me and you
stay tuned for more tips on how to avoid the pool girls advances while the wifee watches .... later
I think you're the only one laughing at your idiotic childsplay. First of all you are only giving out info that everybody can get just by checking eve-kills and show info ingame. Then you post with an alt and that only shows us how much you fear us. I suggest you try to keep your honor and stop the nonsence, and write with main in future, other will only tell us how much you fear us. ________________ "We mine together, we haul together, carebears for life"
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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.27 20:04:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Lord Randalf
Originally by: Billybob Blue hello elaine and fellow killer clowns... hope your having a good day cause mine was FANTASTIC untill i tried to getup and walk to back the guest room after sitting by the pool drinking the bartenders idea of a*****tail for several hours.
Isn;t technology grand, cause scotty #12543 has figured out a way that i can forward my mail message on directly to my implants.....only problem due to the distances involved it takes a long time. but lets get on with this message i am writing you as its being sent from a in-secure terminal in the reception area of the hot mineral pool complex.
No offers, no messages, no emails, and its not due to none of the Killer clowns being online.....my assistence was so kind to rig up a little system whr i know who and when they log and is currently talking to some Gallente about a tracking system that will tell where they are.
So here's another serving of names........
#4 'nerovar' fairly new member current secuirty status -0.5 current concord bounty NIL. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. a wanabe pirate after being around as long as he has.
#5 'elebereth' member of little time current secuirty status -3.5 current concord bounty 5,000.00 isk. she has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. Such a large bounty for a person with such a small history of being successfully bad
$6 'liza anderson' a serial leaver of the corp current secuirty status -0.2 current concord bounty NIL isk. she has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. She can't bring herself to truely be what she wants to be.... a carebear ... so has join the corp to hide from the truth
#7 'xtreamer' the good guy.. defender of the carebears...current secuirty status 1.7 current concord bounty NIL isk. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. This guy points the whole credo of the corp to shame and no explained could be found by my information why he was still in the corp
#8 'tronic man1' current secuirty status -4.1 current concord bounty 5,000.00 isk. he has several alts which will be named later if payment is not made. what i can;t understand is the size of his bounty..... i thought a measure of such a persons worth ini corp as this is by how big it is.......what is this telling me and you
stay tuned for more tips on how to avoid the pool girls advances while the wifee watches .... later
I think you're the only one laughing at your idiotic childsplay. First of all you are only giving out info that everybody can get just by checking eve-kills and show info ingame. Then you post with an alt and that only shows us how much you fear us. I suggest you try to keep your honor and stop the nonsence, and write with main in future, other will only tell us how much you fear us.
Thanks for the tip on where to get the KC membership list from, I have to assume that the memebers not listed there are alts that are being used to stalk Hellhound members but this makes my job of not getting ganked that little bit eaasier.
Billybob as far as I am concenred is an interesting character who has done more to inject some humour into this issue of a personal vendetta disguised as a corporate war than any other player todate. I suggest you take up the issue of his participation directly with him if you feel so strongly about his invovlement.
BTW Hellhound's memebers are now the subject of intense activity around our HQ so any bounty hunters interested you how know where to look. CEO Hellhound Industries. Miners, Traders and Builders to the masses.
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hangovur
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Posted - 2005.06.28 00:47:00 -
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billy, i was almost interested in your post......until i got to the part about liza. now just giving people the stuff they could find by just right clicking is kinda lame, but you gave yourself away as someone who has no clue when you werent able to identify liza as an alt, much less skillz alt.
c'mon man, step up your game.
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Billybob Blue
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Posted - 2005.06.28 08:13:00 -
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it was a scam.....and good one at that... for amateurs.
the daughter was not a daughter, the security cameras suffered a mysteries fault at the time i was setup and all the officals were in on it. a tried and well tested sting targeted at people who had something to hide or shadey past, such as myself.
man did wifee have me fooled for awhile there but she came through big time by turning the scam completly around so that they ended up paying us to not tell concord what they were up to... so for the next 10 years a nice little payment every month will paid into a special account held at some far off bank on a backwater planet.
but back to the reason for this post..... i finally am able to check whats really happening out there and am disapointed in what i see.
1. i have now been able to check with my pod and it has not recieved any mail, so no joy there.
2. i see lord randalf of killer clowns corporation told the ceo of hellhounds where to go to find the information he needed regarding who is hunting him, thanks for taking money out of my pocket there mate.
3. i see hangovur told the ceo of hellhounds some information like who was whom regarding an alt of a killer clowns member, and i know certain information is available by right clicking where you think i got it from, i was just listing that up there to show people what type of person i am offering to provide information on. good sales technique i have been told.
but anyway its all not an issue any more..... i have my nest egg now for me to retire with and what information i have left i qwill sit on till i get an offer from somebody.
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.28 10:48:00 -
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Edited by: Elaine Marley on 28/06/2005 10:50:57
Originally by: Billybob Blue but anyway its all not an issue any more..... i have my nest egg now for me to retire with and what information i have left i qwill sit on till i get an offer from somebody. Choe
Yeah nice, i hope you aint that fat that the egg will pop like the egg youre flying when we see you on an inflation patrol.
Keep it up, if you want kinda informations like he has to offer, join his noob corp.
Since they havent paid yet, i send them another offer. They should decide now pay or get merc. And if they hire merc, they should be prepared good.
And btw, stop the whining on this forum about it, when you smacktalk me in convos that you dont care. That doesnt stop the war, it makes it more funnier for us.
Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.28 11:37:00 -
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Option 9.
Sit in a high sec station and make heaps more ISK than before off the market while the pirates sit outside station not making any ISK cause they cant gank the system with out getting concord on their arses.
And BillyBob thanks for making me laugh, just ignore the noisy one from low sec space he just upset he nolonger can come play 'pass the veldspar' with me in-station. See you around.
Pass the veldspar is the game whr u see how long the other person will hold a trade window open with 1 unit of veldspar offered before either closing or accepting the offered item. Pirates like playing this game based on my studies over the last 24 hours.
Treborc CEO Hellhound Industries.
Miners, Traders and Builders to the masses.
Currently being camped by a whole Pirate corp.
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Masochist
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Posted - 2005.06.28 11:41:00 -
[84]
See it my way......
PAY A.S.A.P.
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Grizwold
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Posted - 2005.06.28 11:56:00 -
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JUST SURRENDER...
It is free and the Clowns have nothing they can do about it...:)
You don't have to pay anything...no penalties..nothing..
Just click surender and wait 24 hours and the war is over...
If you don't want to fight that is.
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.28 13:28:00 -
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Edited by: Elaine Marley on 28/06/2005 13:28:07
Originally by: Grizwold JUST SURRENDER... It is free and the Clowns have nothing they can do about it...:) You don't have to pay anything...no penalties..nothing.. Just click surender and wait 24 hours and the war is over... If you don't want to fight that is.
Yeah good idea =) we wardec again....while you feel safe popping you... 24 HOURS we can still fight you, in thise time we just dec you.
Yeah i cream my hair with these comments, they tried it.... These Tips are like bringing your own*****tail to in the karaokebar. SENSELESS. Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Grizwold
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Posted - 2005.06.28 13:46:00 -
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Edited by: Grizwold on 28/06/2005 13:46:32 surrender..wait 24 hours war over..
Clowns have to wait until the surrender takes effect before they can war dec again = 24 hours war, 24 hours no war, next day war again...if Clowns want to keep paying for a war that only lasts 1 day....
Have some of your alts make new corps and have them declare on your corp..This will force Clowns to pay much more isk to have their one day wars   
Learn to fight fire with fire guys...don't take crap from losers..
cheers and enjoy the Clowns money
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Tipsy
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Posted - 2005.06.28 16:13:00 -
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Entity's overseeing a large scale 1.0 mining op in his Imperial Geddon so I'll take this one.
Originally by: MegaJ You lot left FA during a war so we decided to give you some extra after that war ended.
You're absolutely correct. Though we were never a member of Fountain's CONCORD-recognised alliance (and withdrew ourselves from the informal alliance within days of formal membership being compulsory), had not been involved in a war with you before you wardecced us (a month after we left FA) and there was no Fountain-based war or significant empire war (which we'd have had no part in) going on at the time we left. Otherwise, though, you're right on the money.
Quote: You know what pvp/defending yourself is like, but sure pretend your production only.
We're the fluffiest carebears around. We actually got an offer from Lenor to star in their fabric softener advertisement as the 'after' example. It was only retracted when they realised they'd have been in breach of health and safety legislation if they'd bundled 60 of us into a washing machine before the "omg, so fluffy!" moment.
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Al Adhan
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Posted - 2005.06.28 17:12:00 -
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Originally by: Grizwold Edited by: Grizwold on 28/06/2005 13:46:32 surrender..wait 24 hours war over..
Clowns have to wait until the surrender takes effect before they can war dec again = 24 hours war, 24 hours no war, next day war again...if Clowns want to keep paying for a war that only lasts 1 day....
Have some of your alts make new corps and have them declare on your corp..This will force Clowns to pay much more isk to have their one day wars   
Learn to fight fire with fire guys...don't take crap from losers..
cheers and enjoy the Clowns money
Originally by: Grizwold Edited by: Grizwold on 28/06/2005 13:46:32 surrender..wait 24 hours war over..
Clowns have to wait until the surrender takes effect before they can war dec again = 24 hours war, 24 hours no war, next day war again...if Clowns want to keep paying for a war that only lasts 1 day....
Have some of your alts make new corps and have them declare on your corp..This will force Clowns to pay much more isk to have their one day wars   
Learn to fight fire with fire guys...don't take crap from losers..
cheers and enjoy the Clowns money
Thats not fire with fire, thats ****style...
Yeah the best thing is to listen to ppl with -639 Kill Points on eve kills com 
This hint is as evil as you are ROFLMAO wether youre the bait for celestial or you are just a damn n00b who heard that someone said that he heard of someone who said that he has a friend that said he heard about someone who is be callen grand master of eve because he said that you could smacktalk the forums and become famous if you just chitchat....
Well i dont like the clowns much neither do i know Hellhound. But tbh, 300 mills is a base price for a corp. 2 Billions for an alliance. And if you create alts and play the bytime with them, you could go even in the kindergarten and play with your kids.
I would prefer get one of the best merc, pay 500 Millionen to them to rott KC. Otherwise, you would have the honor of ****fly anywhere on a farm.
Yeah i guess, CelApoc shoot each other to get the kill points on eve kills com lol.
Ah and by the way, vote for Milk and Cookies and stop the Crap Talk...
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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.29 10:48:00 -
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What do you call a war that one side refuses to be part of ?????
Treborc CEO Hellhound Industries.
Miners, Traders and Builders to the masses.
Currently being camped by a whole Pirate corp.
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Wraarrr
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Posted - 2005.06.29 11:30:00 -
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just pay the price then youll be let alone
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2005.06.29 16:18:00 -
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Just pay, we're not as lame as you think, jeesh.
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Grizwold
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Posted - 2005.06.29 18:38:00 -
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Al Adham,
Please try to write something on topic that makes at least some sense...
BTW most peeps do not use eve-kills so any data there, is irrelevant..
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Treborc
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Posted - 2005.06.29 22:25:00 -
[94]
Just had an msn message from semjac as I am working today.
He has managed to pull of a rather funny stunt.
Its taken him several days to do it but he's managed to put up an escrow for the Killer Clowns of what he thinks is appropriate payment.
He's still laughing after getting podded the first time and wanted to show what he thinks of this whole war thing so he put the escrow up at the most apporiate place.
Killer Clowns HQ...... and he did it while there was over 10 of them logged on.
Well done Semjac ... that took guts for a newbie player.
Treborc CEO Hellhound Industries.
Miners, Traders and Builders to the masses.
Currently being camped by a whole Pirate corp.
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Marvel Master
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Posted - 2005.06.30 00:21:00 -
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Edited by: Marvel Master on 30/06/2005 00:22:00 6. Ignore it.
If you give them fun, they will continue the war. If you change the region for 1-2 weeks, they would lost the interest in you.
I would never pay 300 Mill.
Marvel
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Mr AltFTW
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Posted - 2005.06.30 00:54:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Conan O'Brian Was it us?
leno smack with your main, and is that (OMG yes) another corp?
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:41:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Treborc Just had an msn message from semjac as I am working today.
He has managed to pull of a rather funny stunt.
Its taken him several days to do it but he's managed to put up an escrow for the Killer Clowns of what he thinks is appropriate payment.
He's still laughing after getting podded the first time and wanted to show what he thinks of this whole war thing so he put the escrow up at the most apporiate place.
Killer Clowns HQ...... and he did it while there was over 10 of them logged on.
Well done Semjac ... that took guts for a newbie player.
w00t n00b 4tw...
Yeah Hellhound enjoys getting podded... since you offered ppl after you got podded a free raven...
Esp. it is me who laughs the newbie gets podded and loosing 3 mill SP because he forget the clone.  Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:23:00 -
[98]
Elaine u guys are still as sad as you used to be.
Glad to see some things never change, keep beating those very dangerous miners and haulers, eh =)

- Gob |

ASIV TRE
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Posted - 2005.06.30 15:37:00 -
[99]
Laughing at a noob that has lost 3mil sp and prob will quit Eve coz he didnt have a new clone isnt that funny if you ask me.
But thats just me
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Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.06.30 16:12:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig Elaine u guys are still as sad as you used to be.
Glad to see some things never change, keep beating those very dangerous miners and haulers, eh =)

bleh i would tell my opinion about you here. But then i would get banned. Smack and **** talk is what you able to do. Got pwnd by DDC and swapped the corp. So i c why our motd is that: 5. Dont send an application because we shot you faster then you could log off.
Well i guess there is noone in providence regions who dont know how fast you log... Become a GM of DDC and i will talk in usual voice. Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.06.30 16:28:00 -
[101]
Edited by: Goberth Ludwig on 30/06/2005 16:30:29 Nice flame bait Elaine, but I'll pass - ur welcome to come to providence anytime to "watch me log off", well, if your not too busy bullying newbie mining corps of course... =)
About swapping corps, I must admit ur totally right. Everytime a corp kills me I join it - explains why I spent a week in your "corp" and about four month in DDC, not to mention i never lost a ship to DDC (actually never had a chance to fight them in that week, only met mOo if I remember well) ^^
I mean... comooonn... afaik killer clowns must have been some great pirate corp when they wer founded like in the first days of eve or something (wasnt playing back then) - then they wer reborn the first time with the drunk guy as leader (sry can remember the name, he had a red hood and portrait that looked like Steel Rat's) and they lowered themselves to easy ganks on the 0.0 gateways (thats the period in which I joined). Now they are "reborn" again and gone down ransom/bullying noob mining corps (dude u just boasted for podding a noob who didnt have a clone... wake up ffs), what u gonna do next time u "reborn"? What's the next step down the chain uh? Full dedication to ore stealing and escrow scamming? 

p.s.: u totally lost me on the application part
- Gob |

Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.07.01 00:31:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
I mean... comooonn... afaik killer clowns must have been some great pirate corp when they wer founded like in the first days of eve or something (wasnt playing back then) - then they wer reborn the first time with the drunk guy as leader (sry can remember the name, he had a red hood and portrait that looked like Steel Rat's) and they lowered themselves to easy ganks on the 0.0 gateways (thats the period in which I joined). Now they are "reborn" again and gone down ransom/bullying noob mining corps (dude u just boasted for podding a noob who didnt have a clone... wake up ffs), what u gonna do next time u "reborn"? What's the next step down the chain uh? Full dedication to ore stealing and escrow scamming? 

p.s.: u totally lost me on the application part
you joined in the hot time eh? Too hot for your brain to work it out...
you have no idea at all. And your Char is too young to know KC how it was.
Just because you drunk a beer doesnt mean you're a man and if you mean Skillz and dont remember him, you are a total outsider of eve at all. Grow some balls i know where i am talking about. You are one of many, and thats a lot bait.
******** is that. Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Treborc
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Posted - 2005.07.01 02:09:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Treborc What do you call a war that one side refuses to be part of ?????
Clayton's Phoney One-Sided
???
And by the way ........ Read my posts......
Hellhound Industries will not pay any ransom/blackmail demands.
I don't think you can miss-read that statement above.
Treborc CEO Hellhound Industries. HQ Hilaban System Tash-Murkon Region
Miners, Traders and Builders to the masses.
Currently being station camped in HQ office by a whole Pirate corp. |

Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.07.01 03:07:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Treborc
Originally by: Treborc What do you call a war that one side refuses to be part of ?????
Clayton's Phoney One-Sided
???
And by the way ........ Read my posts......
Hellhound Industries will not pay any ransom/blackmail demands.
I don't think you can miss-read that statement above.
I BET YOU WILL! 1337 I5 w47chin6 u.... Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Lady Silverwolf
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Posted - 2005.07.01 04:35:00 -
[105]
Hmmmm what price to stop a war.... fine question
The answer is apparently very expensive and nothing short of retirment from the game of eve.
Congrats to you Elaine Marley and your fellow cohorts for reducing the numbers of eve players.
I would have thought that players such as yourselves would have prefered to take on others of like mind over a newbie Lab Rat such as myself. As first strike into the gaming world this has been a bitter experince, an rather than have what has become a personal attack inflicted on others....I retire.
As for ransom.....it shall remain unpaid...as I feel assured from the post/boastings here that you have no honor and it would not be the end as you would so have others believe.
Take ya hands off my coffee |

Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.07.01 07:57:00 -
[106]
Originally by: Lady Silverwolf Hmmmm what price to stop a war.... fine question
Take ya hands off my coffee
*Elaine Marley dips the finger in the coffee, having a taste.
Well finnally we are not reducing eve players we sort the beans if you think that way.
It will Stop immediately after you paid, otherwise its going on... NOW GET YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR WALLET AND HIRE THE BEST MERCS you could pay.
And dont tell me youre noob, only because you dont know about POS Sharing. Someone who is selling Ships with 40% of benefit shouldnt play the teletubbie.
bleh sickofitall Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Elaine Marley
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Posted - 2005.07.01 07:57:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Lady Silverwolf Hmmmm what price to stop a war.... fine question
Take ya hands off my coffee
*Elaine Marley dips the finger in the coffee, having a taste.
Well finnally we are not reducing eve players we sort the beans if you think that way.
It will Stop immediately after you paid, otherwise its going on... NOW GET YOUR FINGERS IN YOUR WALLET AND HIRE THE BEST MERCS you could pay.
And dont tell me youre noob, only because you dont know about POS Sharing. Someone who is selling Ships with 40% of benefit shouldnt play the teletubbie.
bleh sickofitall Podding Regards
Elaine Marley
Put the money on the table, here is the Inflation Control
Veni, Vedi, Vici |

Zaneg
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Posted - 2005.07.01 11:57:00 -
[108]
Lol ! Rofl ! Stuff !
These clowns are funny. I never really found clowns funny, but now I'm a changed man.
( Theres no clown smiley ? WTF!? )
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Teblin
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Posted - 2005.07.01 13:47:00 -
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